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Rant

I've been lurking here for awhile and only recently have been paying close attention since getting an EVO. This is a general rant and obviously cant be applied to every person and Im not saying at all that the forum is not a good resource but....
This forum is by far THE worst i have seen with reposts and redundant questions. Its ridiculous... you get literally 10 threads on the first page with the same topic, and within a thread you get the same question being asked and answered literally 3 posts away from the last time. How is a forum that is supposed to be technical THIS bad with simple reading!?
Threads are basically useless past the first post because because its hundreds of pages of repeated questions after.
For god's sake people, READ. I dont care how excites you are about finding out something everyone else already knew, check to see if theres a thread already. And stop asking questions that have been answered a hundred times already.
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I agree 100%!
I think when you first sign up there should be like a 4 day waiting period before you are allowed your first post. This way, either they will start reading and find the solution or leave and we won't have to worry about it.
EDIT: I know this doesn't apply to people already registered but most are people with low post counts who post repeated topics.

churchwin88 said:
I agree 100%!
I think when you first sign up there should be like a 4 day waiting period before you are allowed your first post. This way, either they will start reading and find the solution or leave and we won't have to worry about it.
EDIT: I know this doesn't apply to people already registered but most are people with low post counts who post repeated topics.
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That is a pretty good idea you just came up with there!

Frankly this forum has turned to trash which is why most of the serious posters don't even bother with it.

Aridon said:
Frankly this forum has turned to trash which is why most of the serious posters don't even bother with it.
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Then where do those serious posters post?

yeah there are waaay to many people who basically just want someone else to do everything for them, and dont want to actually search for themselves. frankly i think its US the people who know how to use a forum properly, that should NOT be paying attention to these people. i wish people would just not respond to all those lazy people who just want to be spoonfed on what to do. if you think our evo forum is bad lol imagine if we had an IPHONE forum LOL

Freelancerx said:
if you think our evo forum is bad lol imagine if we had an IPHONE forum LOL
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Thanks, now I am going to have nightmares.

yeah i mean i pretty much almost never go into the Q&A section, and general section because 90% of whats in there is a bunch "i dont know how to do this please tell me how" probably because those people never finished their freshman year in college and actually learned how to do proper research... but oh well, i mean the only forum i check is the development one, it seems to slowly be getting better and better. very slowly.

I agree with the OP, however, this is simply a side effect from the forum hitting the mainstream. At almost 3 million users, it is simply impossible not to get these kinds of people. The development forum is a lot better though since it's better curated.
I've learned to simply ignore it and move along. Trust me, it could be way worse.

how do i root my phone... I'm kidding of course
sent from satan fone!

I think I know how to clean up the redundant threads a little bit.
The forum administrator could change the input field for naming your new thread into a hidden Google search box!
So then people type their new topic into the box and WHAMMO suddenly there is >3,000,000 solutions right in their face before they even begin to start writing the body of the post.
The thread starter must then click on a minimum number of links from the googled solutions before they are allowed to actually post their question with a new thread!
Problem solved....

Unfortunately, the search in the XDA app sux.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

the problem is it's frustrating for everyone.
and also not to point fingers but there's only one way to really curb the problem.
More information available more easily.
Better more acccurate more updated Wiki or compilation of ALL the basics.
Also, for everyone that starts a thread you need to put in more details, Sometimes I'm amazed at how a developer can master putting everything for the phone together and then post a thread saying..... Here's my rom WEE clicky here, done.
DETAILS install, how to when where what, update and keep things updated.
most of the stuff I can navigate threw myself and thats fine but sometimes theres like 300 pages and your getting no where, if your the thread starter and you add something important to the conversation mid thread, edit your first post.
As far as people posting stupid VERY simple repetitive questions, just try and search it first please, ugh.

I agree with the xda app search sucks.. i get low data speed here in wisconsin usually 30kb/s or under so dont use the internet for the site.. the search should be able to sure certain forums that would help alot of people out who do actually use the search but hard finding it with the app search..
sent from my Evo

Also alot of people dont word the topic right or even have what they are asking about.. like today someone put... help!. Had good info on radios but someone thats looking up the same thing wont run into it.
sent from my Evo

Now that I think about it, the hardest thing to do is run through a 200 page topic and actually pull useful information out of it. An example:
The first 500 replys are:
First!
downloading...
Will DL when I get home...
Downloading now
ect, ect for 500 pages
Then you finally get to the meat of the topic when you no longer see "downloading now" and you start to see "my 4gee's no workie" for another 150 pages only to realize that the answer to all of those questions was in the OP that nobody read!
This cycle goes on and on and it's nearly impossible to gather intelligence from chaos like that.

this is probably the 10th topic about this....just sayin

In your third paragraph, you repeated yourself by saying "because" twice. Practice what you preach. If you think you can do it better, go start your own forum.
I'm just bs'ing/being a smartass. You are okay to have your opinion. I can understand when a person gets in a mood and needs to rant to vent some frustrations. You may also have some valid points.
My parting thought:
It can be said in many different ways. Instead of complaining about something you don't agree with or like, might I make a suggestion to volunteer yourself to make things better. Trying to focus on solutions instead of problems.
Don't get me wrong. I'm no saint. Some people really irritate the crap out of me too, plus, I know I'm not mr personality either.
The mods have their hands full (I'm sure that's an understatement). If you can do your good deed for the day and help out a newb, then you are giving back.
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This forum desperately needs more moderation. I messaged toast over a month ago with this suggestion and offered my help as I have moderated other forums. He never even bothered to respond.
For a tech forum,moderation is the difference between good and lousy. Self policing can only go so far.
As for the search, there is no problem with it. VB is the most popular forum software for a reason. It works very well. Pro tip: 99% of your searches should be title only.

Mad06STi said:
I've been lurking here for awhile and only recently have been paying close attention since getting an EVO. This is a general rant and obviously cant be applied to every person and Im not saying at all that the forum is not a good resource but....
This forum is by far THE worst i have seen with reposts and redundant questions. Its ridiculous... you get literally 10 threads on the first page with the same topic, and within a thread you get the same question being asked and answered literally 3 posts away from the last time. How is a forum that is supposed to be technical THIS bad with simple reading!?
Threads are basically useless past the first post because because its hundreds of pages of repeated questions after.
For god's sake people, READ. I dont care how excites you are about finding out something everyone else already knew, check to see if theres a thread already. And stop asking questions that have been answered a hundred times already.
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The big problem is when people get their EVO, they realize their battery lasts 20 minutes out of the box. They then get on google and try to find out how to increase their battery life. They find an article on some douchebag blog talking about rooting their phone. These people then google rooting their phone and all signs point to XDA. Sometimes they know a guy or have a friend of a friend who told them to "root" their phone, skipping the first step.
This is exactly why there are 100 repeated questions/threads. Everyone is directed to this website from various other websites. So you will get people who want instant answers and don't want to wade through tons of replies/text.

2.2 on Vibrant?

i have a captivate running froyo, but is there a leaked froyo out for the vibrant or no?

if I was a mod I'd lock this thread

I'll one up you, I would ban him

You can get froyo in the vibrant thro a custom rom.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

I want to know why many peeps here hate about question on froyo for vibrant?

SiL3nTKiLL said:
ok my bad guys, i did research on it afterwords and it seems there isnt a full froyo out..Mod edit: language removed from quote
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This is why people rage about this...There are 20 gazillion 2.2 threads...and one search button. Search always loses

All the roms available for the phone are on the first two pages of the development side. Not like people are hiding **** keeping full 2.2 roms to themselves, that's why these threads are stupid.
Lol at researching afterwards haha.

SiL3nTKiLL said:
i have a captivate running froyo, but is there a leaked froyo out for the vibrant or no?
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No 2.2 for the vibrant yet... No eta either. Just be patient, we will get it eventually.
In the mean time you should try one of the two froyo roms that are in the forum.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

looks like 2.2 for vibrant may come shortly though. we'll see.
http://www.samfirmware.com/apps/blog/show/5038470-official-froyo-release-galaxy-s-

SiL3nTKiLL said:
man people are so uptight on this forum now, back in the day it was never like this...oh well, i guess when ur a 12yr old hiding behind a monitor, u can be the biggest e-thug u want to be out there :/
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No its just the fact that no one these days can figure out how to use the "Search" function & there are all of these useless threads that pop up. (Hint: This thread)

uwradu said:
... mind numbing rudeness of people ... Nothing sours the moment more quickly than scanning a thread for nuggets of hidden info while constantly tripping over tripe ...
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+1 Agree, This community has become a little bitter - Why ???

People are bitter and frustrated because every day dozens of people are posting new threads about topics that have been answers, already have dozens of threads about the same topic, the answers are in the sticky, or just general whining. I personally have never seen a forum where so many people create new threads about the same exact thing numerous times a day.
The fact that a huge percentage of threads that are questions could be answered by using the search function is also a source of frustration. All of this crowds up the forum making it harder to find people with new issues, actually finding GOOD information (how many times do we need to hear that a TMO rep said something was coming in a week? really), and trying to find legitimate news.
If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.

KerryG said:
If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.
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This ^^^^^^

KerryG said:
The fact that a huge percentage of threads that are questions could be answered by using the search function is also a source of frustration.
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I do wish there was a little more active moderation in this forum. As for the OP's suggestion that people calm down, spending any time in this forum ~1 day before the JI6 update dropped would have seen no less than 2 Froyo threads in the front page, and there have been by last count 7 within the last month.
If people on here would display even the most basic forum etiquette, it would be much, much better for everyone.
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This won't happen until they invent the "physical beatdown over IP" protocol. The Internet is what is it because being polite isn't required to escape physical confrontation unscathed. It's easy to be willfully ignorant and to shrug off attempts to be educated, and it's just as easy to browbeat people who flippantly ignore general etiquette. Copernicus would be rolling over in his grave to know that everyone on the Internet thinks the universe revolves around them.

I like how people who just registered an account last month and have a few posts under their belt feel like they can bash anyone who posts here, regardless of the topic.
If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. If you see a thread with a title that you find offensive why do you then go into that thread and proceed to post in it. Seems to me your point would be better served by ignoring the thread rather than spam bumping it with useless information and insults.

Zylograth said:
I like how people who just registered an account last month and have a few posts under their belt feel like they can bash anyone who posts here, regardless of the topic.
If you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all. If you see a thread with a title that you find offensive why do you then go into that thread and proceed to post in it. Seems to me your point would be better served by ignoring the thread rather than spam bumping it with useless information and insults.
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because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.

PaiPiePia said:
because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.
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so rather than ignore the thread and let it fall off the front page you would rather spam insults and useless information?

PaiPiePia said:
because trolling is easier on internet. And I have only seem one modertor working in this forum (he was doing a great job at it), but he isn't around all the time, and for some reason moderate refuse to delete threads that are redundant such as all the 2.2 date predication threads.
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Well folks, another has appeared. I've done a clean-up here, and fired off infractions to those flaming and cursing. This will not be tolerated, and trolling will be dealt with seriously.
This thread won't be opening due to the sheer number of similar threads already in existence.

Gingerbread

Oh my goodness, there are just SO many Gingerbread threads. I do know what I would do if I see another thread about Gingerbread. Do you agree?

I dunno whether you thought this was funny or not..... it wasn't

cymru said:
I dunno whether you thought this was funny or not..... it wasn't
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Nope... My point was to call to attention how annoying it is for everyone else when people complain about all the Gingerbread threads. Don't visit the thread if you don't want to read the thread, but for people that do, or think they do, reading through a dozen 'OMG FFFFFUUUUUU' comments is quite irritating.
Relax and breathe! The Interwebs does what the Interwebs does.

Yeah, clutter is so much fun. And you're soooo edgy!

Fail
(+6)..

Is this what passes for wit these days?

daijizai said:
Nope... My point was to call to attention how annoying it is for everyone else when people complain about all the Gingerbread threads.
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...and yet you don't seem to understand how annoying it is for everyone else, who came here to try and find information, but struggle because of how many threads there are on the same subject?
The rules say search before starting a new thread. They say that for a reason (to keep down the clutter).
The purpose of forums is to encourage discussions with people of common interests, in a common location. Starting a new thread goes completely against this concept, since you now have to go to multiple locations... Monitoring multiple threads for news on Gingerbread (or anything else) is a PIA.
The whole board is full of people asking the same stuff over and over again. It's not because they don't know how to search. It's because there's just way too many threads on the same subject, making searching a nightmare. Not only is information dispersed, you also have a much higher potential for conflicting information...
As a Sr Systems Engineer, I would've thought you'd understand about duplication of information being being a major obstacle in configuration management?
Thanks for helping, though... :sarcasm:
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

daijizai said:
Nope... My point was to call to attention how annoying it is for everyone else when people complain about all the Gingerbread threads. Don't visit the thread if you don't want to read the thread, but for people that do, or think they do, reading through a dozen 'OMG FFFFFUUUUUU' comments is quite irritating.
Relax and breathe! The Interwebs does what the Interwebs does.
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Oh wow, you're such a mellow, free spirit with such wit and charm.
Go play psychologist somewhere else. Nobody here is interested in the human response to multiple threads. We just want to hear news about our phones. Your thread serves no purpose here. Get your attention fix from a different forum.

Fail.......

Great thread , if ya ever wanted to expose the trolls in a forum this is the way to do it. Good job lol

Mod, lock this waste of space!!

EarthsiegeTA said:
Is this what passes for wit these days?
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Its what passes for a half-wit

I love how XDA Developers has gone to **** lately.
Threads like this are a large part of it.

Man, I'm so glad that silly jokes don't bother me instead of me being a pompous ****bag. Actually, Pompous ****bag is a great band! Their many hits include:
"Lock This Thread!"
"Ban This Guy!"
"I Hope You Brick Your Phone!"
"I Let Other People Get My Goat On The Internet Of All Places."
And many more!

http://market.android.com/search?q=pname:com.google.android.ytremote
Sent from my Nexus One

Xda admin should charging trolls!
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

[REQ] CyanogenMod 6.1 Beta2 for Samsung Galaxy S GT-I9000 Working on the Vibrant

Hey people
I was wondering if some body can port this ROM over... I've been hearing about this ROM when I was still on windows (TP2) I seen Noobnl try to do something with it. But I heard he quit (Great DEV)... Okay back to what I was saying I was playing with it a little bit with his release. Seems like its banging
I seen this on the Vibrant forum with a Port Link and was wondering if somebody-anybody who knows how to port if they can port this over
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858724
Thanks for your help

this thread made me die a little on the inside

johnsongrantr said:
this thread made me die a little on the inside
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Seriously! I really hope we can get this ported over.

Huh. Well there's an idea that definitely no one in the entire world has started 80 billion threads about already.

Another dumb ass who disregards using common sense on forums. Try SEARCHING next time.
OP reported as belonging in general section.

Thanks for keeping up with the times......
Sent from my *Epic* using XDA App

ghostrid3r said:
Another dumb ass who disregards using common sense on forums. Try SEARCHING next time.
OP reported as belonging in general section.
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What you mean by that... BRO!

bobbyblack said:
What you mean by that... BRO!
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That was pretty clear and concise to me... You just had to prove his point? Lol
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
That was pretty clear and concise to me... You just had to prove his point? Lol
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Haha I was thinking the same thing
Sent from my SPH-D700 using Tapatalk

its threads like this that make every one of us die a little inside with every click.
just so everyone is clear....a title that begins with:
[ROM] means this post contains a rom. not a request. those have a different title all together.
yes im a troll. but maybe, just maybe, someone will learn and spare the rest of us.

I believe we can't port over the Vibrant because it's GSM and we're CMDA..
Could be wrong; but I think thats what i've read before.
Also.. Your title is a little misleading; you shouldn't put ROM in brackets if you arn't launching a ROM

Wow... Computer bullys, LOL only on a computer not face-to-face
Okay the post has been changed, y'all didn't have to be asses

XtaC318 said:
I believe we can't port over the Vibrant because it's GSM and we're CMDA..
Could be wrong; but I think thats what i've read before.
Also.. Your title is a little misleading; you shouldn't put ROM in brackets if you arn't launching a ROM
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Thank you .

XtaC318 said:
I believe we can't port over the Vibrant because it's GSM and we're CMDA..
Could be wrong; but I think thats what i've read before.
Also.. Your title is a little misleading; you shouldn't put ROM in brackets if you arn't launching a ROM
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Also, no CM rom because Sammy hasn't given us source code for drivers and whatnot.

The other thing about this post that i find just staggeringly stupid is that if you look down a little bit on most days you'll see noobnl's posts about 6.1 betas for the epic and how hes working on it, which only goes to prove that the search feature is either dead or non function for the Epic section of the forums, or somehow the words get distorted when other people that the poster and the literate read them.
like this one here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846521

Another useless thread in the wrong section, again. OP no one really means to be an ass but we are sick and tired of this ****.
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art3mis-nyc said:
The other thing about this post that i find just staggeringly stupid is that if you look down a little bit on most days you'll see noobnl's posts about 6.1 betas for the epic and how hes working on it, which only goes to prove that the search feature is either dead or non function for the Epic section of the forums, or somehow the words get distorted when other people that the poster and the literate read them.
like this one here
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HAHA, love it. Yeah I was commenting the other day on how google's servers are apparently down. Perhaps we could start a thread "[ROM][FIX][BUG][REQ][WIKI][STICKY][SEX][PLEASE][STOP] SEARCH FUNCTION BROKEN!!!!!!!!!" to let everyone know that they will need to just man up and create a new thread every time they have a question about anything, no matter how stupid, useless, or even already answered.
I will work on setting up a petition for the new thread?

sign me up!
i would say someone should sticky a post with some ettiquite (cant spell since my work's IE doesnt have spell check lol) "tips and tricks" kind of like the forum's rules that you have to read when you sign up, except it would probaly be moved to the general sub forum because it has nothing to do with development and probally be ignored worse than XDA's rules.

Wow, there's so much negativity on these forums sometimes. I wish people would stop being such whiney little *****es. If it's been posted and answered before and it bothers you that much, just move on. Forums are a place for helping and spreading knowledge. Contribute something, or don't say anything at all...

los1223 said:
Wow, there's so much negativity on these forums sometimes. I wish people would stop being such whiney little *****es. If it's been posted and answered before and it bothers you that much, just move on. Forums are a place for helping and spreading knowledge. Contribute something, or don't say anything at all...
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We are contributing by trying to *bully* some sense into a format(forums) that was tried and true, within our circles, until those who probably don't fit into anything we do here, (just want hand outs) come and muddy the waters....
I go to a good number of forums daily, and this nonsense is only on xda.. There are forum rules, if people can't live by them, they shouldn't post...
Swyped from my *Epic*

Why all the hate? Kinda ridiculous.

You know I kinda debated about starting this thread but I finally read enough smartass-think-they-are-better-than-everyone-posts. Im a member on countless electonics forums with thousands of posts with the same user name I might add and this forum kinda tops them all as far as "rude people". Yes, I might be "newer" to these forums, but while most of you were in elementary school, I was working on computers, installing networks and doing competition car audio.
Now lets start.
Why were forums made? For the masses to gather and share information, ideas, buy & sell, meet others and just down right chat to one another. *And for people that got picked on in their school days and decide to be a jerk online because they want to feel better about themselves.*
It seems like almost every single thread I read there is someone that asks the "standard question" that has probably been answered numerous times and then you get the standard response. "Well if you would of read, you would know the answer." Instead of being a douche, you could of just typed the answer, gained more post counts and could of probably got your Thanks Meter up another notch.
I love the answer, "Thats what the search feature is for." Well I'm sure almost all of you have tried to search and maybe your search wasnt bigger than 3 letters which gets excluded or so many other queries come that dont get even come close to answering your question. Sometimes its like trying to find waldo in a book with really really big freaking pages.
Then the, "If you would of read the whole thread you would know the answer" response. Well jesus, do you guys realize how fast some of these threads move? Damn, I can make a post, go to bed, wake up and noticed during the overnight the thread gains 10+ pages. Now imagine you are someone new to this, you have read the stickies, done a few searches, got their phone rooted ok but then notice a bug so they ask the "standard question". Well when you have an ungodly amount of threads and an even bigger number of actual posts sometimes its like finding a needle in a haystack. When just asking a question (Which is what forums were made for) can sometimes save you hours of searching thousands of threads.
Some of the people on this forum just need to be patient and help people out, instead being an ASS. We were all newbies once. And we will all be newbies to some other subject in the future. "Can't we all just get along"
And before anyone does the standard flaming. No, this did not happen to me. Search my screen names for posts if you wish. I just hate seeing in almost every 500+ page thread were someone asks a question and the next few people have some sort of smartass answer.
Just be nice, answer the question and watch your Thanks Meter go up. Simple as that.
If people werent asking questions then these forums wouldnt even be a quarter of the size they are now.
Thanks for reading. Have a great day.
Also, thanks to all the Devs that have spent countless days and sleepless nights to help all of us have a more enjoyable experience with our phones.

Uhh, there are already a few threads talking about the same rants, next time search before you create a thread......
LMAO, ok sorry. I couldn't help myself,

quietstorm said:
Uhh, there are already a few threads talking about the same rants, next time search before you create a thread......
LMAO, ok sorry. I couldn't help myself,
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I enjoyed that comment.

sminker said:
I enjoyed that comment.
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Thanks bro, but you are right though, there is a little to much tension at times around here. I have been a member of this site for many years, I had another account but I forgot my name and password so I created this one about three years ago. My point is, I been coming here for over 5 years or so and I am on this site damn near every single day but I never post much if ever. I usually search for what I am looking for at best and then just move on while avoiding the stupid crap. I am also a member of sprintusers, ppcgeeks, androidforums and a few others and they all seem to have their fare share of idiots. Since xda is probably the largest site with the most traffic compared to the others I guess you run the risk of seeing more idiots here as well.

Well said sminker. If people do not like what people post they are just better off keeping it to themselves. Be part of solution not the problem.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

Thanks for the replies. Nice to know I wasnt flamed immediately.

I find XDA to be pretty friendly. The worst tech forums are the tool bags at MacForums that place has a yon of negative and rude posters

Zorachus said:
I find XDA to be pretty friendly. The worst tech forums are the tool bags at MacForums that place has a yon of negative and rude posters
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Doesnt surprise me. Gotta keep your eye on those Mac users. They are a breed of their own.

i hate the 'wrong section' trolls. just let the mods quietly move it, and dont comment. be happy, dont hate.
very well said.

Wow
Thanks for bringing this up. This issue really is annoying. I totally agree. But, it's the internet and jerks will be jerks.

cdszoke said:
Thanks for bringing this up. This issue really is annoying. I totally agree. But, it's the internet and jerks will be jerks.
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Sir you are completely right. People can and will act completely different in this "Alternate Universe" than they will in real life. Why? Becuase they can and it makes them feel a little more "Alpha".

Hey I remember being new to a certain forum not this one though, and asking a simple question. The regular jerks of the forum proceeded to try to make me feel like an idiot. Needless to say my feelings weren't hurt but I guess it's that "Alpha Male" complex.

haha those jerks on the iphone-developers wont reply at all. i'm experiencing being a noob again with my ipad.
ps: any of you helpful xda people kno more than a thing or two about tinyumbrella and shsh/jailbreak stuff?

dkdude36 said:
haha those jerks on the iphone-developers wont reply at all. i'm experiencing being a noob again with my ipad.
ps: any of you helpful xda people kno more than a thing or two about tinyumbrella and shsh/jailbreak stuff?
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If i did, i would help you out. But Im holding off for the 2nd gen Ipad.

I agree, but change your title from REDiculous to ridiculous

sminker said:
If i did, i would help you out. But Im holding off for the 2nd gen Ipad.
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hah i was going to, and held for 3 months, but then school started and i needed something to type on, so....

DirtyShroomz said:
I agree, but change your title from REDiculous to ridiculous
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Thanks Given. Should of checked my spelling better.

Well said nice thread more people need to read this. There are many folks here on xda that have helped me over the years, and I lend a hand to those in need when I can. Thanks

Maybe it was REDiculous for a resin. I have bee. Aroubg these forums reading and not trying to post. Let's get a forums back the doing better for our phones not flaing and contributing instead.( ill get flamed for that. Everyone gets pissed at some point but leave it out of here. Or at lesast try lazy trolls.
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Oh yeah, the reality for that is some people( no specifics at all just in general) think they have a ten foot long e ****
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