[Q] Moto making DX unrootable with new gingerbread update? - Droid X General

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/0...oid-x-gingerbread-upgrade-to-prevent-rooting/
Is this article true? Has anybody installed the latest official update and not been able to gain root access? If so, then I had better root my phone already before this gets rolled out.

not true. it's already been rooted. it's called GingerBreak.

^ what he said

It would be near impossible to prevent root access.
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There are so many bits of untrue information in that article it's not even funny.
1. It is rootable.
2. It is not a silent update.
3. The bootloader doesn't affect superuser access (root).
Amongst other things... I won't be looking to that site for any real info in the future.
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Blocking OTA

Droid2 Global, rooted stock rom. I'm worried about OTA updates. I want to block them (I already received one, which required me to re-root). I'm worried that future updates will disable the method used to root.
I presume that the available roms have OTA disabled? Unfortunately switching roms isn't an option for me right now.
Rename /etc/security/otacerts.zip to otacerts.zip.bak and the OTA update will fail to validate and therefore not load.
I could have taken the update and rerooted almost as fast as I took you to type your post. Why is simply rerooting such an affront to so many people? Don't seem like much of a big deal to me.
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lizard1 said:
I could have taken the update and rerooted almost as fast as I took you to type your post. Why is simply rerooting such an affront to so many people? Don't seem like much of a big deal to me.
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His concern was losing the ability to reroot if moto chose to mess with the D2G's rooting method. I don't really see them going to those lengths but that was his concern not simply not wanting to reroot.
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It sounded to me like the same thing everbody was worried about with the d2 OTA updates.
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So is it best to allow the OTA updates and then just root again, or to stop them from happening? I read somewhere that renaming the otacerts.zip file is not a good idea and can reduce battery life. Are there any other ways to prevent OTA updates with the stock ROM? If you get an OTA update, will it cause any problems or does it just unroot the phone? Thanks.

Rooted on 4.1.57 not seeing Update?

My Atrix 4g is rooted on 4.1.57 and I am not seeing the latest 1.8.3 update. help!
Me either. I'm pretty sure its not because of root though since others with root have gotten the update
Thats what I was wondering. I was able to update with the root last time, I don't see why this would be different
So we need to unroot and then update ?
And then root 1.8.3 with Gingerbreak?
Nothing should effect your ability to see it. If you have one of the pseudo roms installed, that will prevent you from installing it, however.
I don't think we need to un-root to see the update - that really shouldn't effect anything. Once we get to 1.8.3 GingerBreak will root it fine, the issue is just getting to that point via OTA Update which we aren't seeing
no root here and I'm still not seeing it yet.
1.8.3 isn't live yet FFS. So much damn misinformation floating around.
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dcarpenter85 said:
1.8.3 isn't live yet FFS. So much damn misinformation floating around.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/30/atandt-brings-hsupa-to-atrix-4g-and-inspire-4g-one-requires-wifi/
frowny face?
And for a more solid piece of evidence that the previously mentioned article cited
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&solutionId=KB117611
I would guess they're still in the process of "rolling out" the update. Just give it a little time.
My mom's Atrix is NOT rooted and isn't able to find the update. I have to flash the SBF through RSD Lite.
On a side note, the hell is
These software updates need to be installed in order, and are available to users via Wi-Fi only for the first 100 days
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supposed to mean D:
That makes no sense. Let me use my" 4g" to download the update. But thanks everyone keep up to date if you get the update
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rocketboy6885 said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/30/atandt-brings-hsupa-to-atrix-4g-and-inspire-4g-one-requires-wifi/
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Rolling out doesn't mean live for everyone. Also, this update isn't official until ken releases Gingerblur 3.0 anyway, since the stock experience is pretty much a joke.
Is GingerBlur the best rom? // easy to install/update?
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Just flash the sbf it doesn't wipe any data of course im not running any mods or "roms" other than root. It did get rid of root though and running gingerRoot wiped my internal storage (like it said it would), but i backed that up no harm ;-)
So my area in NC is not "live" yet it seems.
Not live in Philadelphia either
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The patch isn't live yet folks! It's still being pushed out in testing.
I believe it's not root, but deodexed files which cause issues with updating. People with root have managed to update, but people like me who had GreyBlur had to flash back to 4.1.26, update to 4.1.57, update to 4.1.83, then root and sideload again. Also, before rooting, it's adviseable to use Kennethpenn's deodex flash for 4.1.83 first.
rooted, running gingerblur 2.5.. no update available yet here in south Florida. not too concerned about it though.. i did the HUSPA mod & i'm content for now

Rooting the GB OTA version

Sorry if this has been answered before (I didn't mess with any leaked GB and scanned the other threads). Is z4root compatible with GB or does some other rooting method exists for GB? I'm going to hold off on doing the GB OTA update on my X if rooting it is not yet possible. Thanks.
We can use Gingerbreak to root gingerbread, but I'm not positive that it will work on the .596 update.
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Gingerbreak roots gingerbread, however it will not work on the OTA
Fair warning from P3Droid, you might permanently lose root if you accept the GB OTA. They haven't found a way to root it yet. Excellent chance that they will, but no guarantees.
Roland Deschain said:
Fair warning from P3Droid, you might permanently lose root if you accept the GB OTA. They haven't found a way to root it yet. Excellent chance that they will, but no guarantees.
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Thanks. Not willing to give up root so I'm going to wait until it's confirmed as possible.
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Stay on the leaked. 595 until we know that nothing is wrong, then manually download (or accept the ota of) the. 596.
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No way no need that craappp if bootloader would be unlocked like all htc devices will be soon I would be interested now so happy with 591 version of liberty v5 cheers
davemlinux said:
No way no need that craappp if bootloader would be unlocked like all htc devices will be soon I would be interested now so happy with 591 version of liberty v5 cheers
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Not all HTC devices. Just the upcoming ones and not any that were already coming out

Does rooting prevent OTA updates on the nexus?

All I want to use is market enabler, I don't want customs roms or anything of the sort. Does rooting a device prevents OTA updates? I've read mixed responses, some say that rooting does not but unlocking the bootloader does while others say to root you need to unlock the bootloader, can anyone please clarify this for me?
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mobiousblack said:
All I want to use is market enabler, I don't want customs roms or anything of the sort. Does rooting a device prevents OTA updates? I've read mixed responses, some say that rooting does not but unlocking the bootloader does while others say to root you need to unlock the bootloader, can anyone please clarify this for me?
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If you root and unlock but you stay on the stock ROM you will still get OTA updates, but you might lose root access. To keep root access install this app:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsIm9yZy5wcm9qZWN0dm9vZG9vLm90YXJvb3RrZWVwZXIiXQ..
You can also re-root after updating. So far, there are root methods for Android 4.1, 4.1.1, and 4.1.2. Those are currently the only versions of Jelly Bean available now so you should be fine if you want to update to 4.1.1 or 4.1.2.
Thank you very much for the reply. I'll root mine ASAP.
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Can I update my android version after root?

Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
D-X69 said:
Hello there,
This is my first time using an android device, and I have just successfully rooted my n10.
But I was wondering if google came up with a new android version can I update it? And after I update it, is my device still rooted?
I'm just asking to make sure I don't messed up my tablet.
Thanks
Tim
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In general there are ways to 'keep root'. But no one knows the future so each time its possible there are problems. People smarter than us will try first and work out all the kinks. If you need to have Google's update that same day you still can, but to do it 100% safely youll need to change things back.
So to literally answer your question - yes your tablet will be able to be updated. (Be sure you learn about what that means w/ root though prior to Googles next update.)
you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
leyvatron said:
you will lose root. Always check the development section to see if that new upgrade has root.
If they do, upgrade then get root again. I say, be patient and wait for root before any upgrades... makes the Nexus more fun.
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So do you mean, lets say there's a new android version and I'd have to get the new root then do a system update?
Or do I system update and then root my phone as soon as im done updating to the new version??
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D-X69,
I read on a few XDA posts that when people did the last OTA (4.2.2) update while rooted they lost root, but a few of them had used "OTA RootKeeper" and used it to restore root easily. Of course they had previous to applying the OTA update installed OTA RootKeeper and performed the initial root back.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
Here are more options and a discussion on the subject:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2148167&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
and another where a user directly mentions success using OTA RootKeeper:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152397&highlight=ota+rootkeeper
Since you are already rooted you have a couple choices. Flash an updated stock rooted ROM or go custom ROM that is updated. No need to lose your root to upgrade ROM.
And, to add to the above, here's a YouTube video explaining OTA Rootkeeper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky5miA8ilr0&feature=em-subs_digest
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