Which processor for which market... - Galaxy S II General

Its been rumored that the galaxy s2 will ship with two different SOCs. The new dual core Hummingbird SOC by samsung and the tegra 2. They say they the model you get will depend on what market you are in.
Any idea wich will launch in the usa? And how will this effect the hacking? Different exploits for different models?
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Very interesting...
I wonder what will be in Europe?
Which is better?
Tegra ?
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GlossGhost said:
Very interesting...
I wonder what will be in Europe?
Which is better?
Tegra ?
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i9100 (exynos + super amoled plus) = Europa (germany, holland, uk)
i9103 (tegra2+SLCD) = Parts of Asia and ????
As far as i know (there are no official statments that i've seen).
i9100 is better.

killersnowman said:
Its been rumored that the galaxy s2 will ship with two different SOCs. The new dual core Hummingbird SOC by samsung and the tegra 2. They say they the model you get will depend on what market you are in.
Any idea wich will launch in the usa? And how will this effect the hacking? Different exploits for different models?
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Well, it is the Exynos processor not a hummingbird (hummingbird is the processor of the original galaxy s), it is not yet known which will launch where and how it will effect hacking. We will have to wait for that.

golf2vr6 said:
i9100 (exynos + super amoled plus) = Europa (germany, holland, uk)
i9103 (tegra2+SLCD) = Parts of Asia and ????
As far as i know (there are no official statments that i've seen).
i9100 is better.
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extremely wronggggg baby, samsung india has confirmed s2 with exynos + super amoled + display and india is an asian country

sajadkhan806 said:
extremely wronggggg baby, samsung india has confirmed s2 with exynos + super amoled + display and india is an asian country
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He says parts of Asia...
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There was a discussion about Tegra and Exynos versions.
I remember that Tegra goes to south America and USA and that's all.

Is that Tegra2 + SLCD even confirmed by anyone yet? I haven't seen anything but rumors.

All rumors, nothing that has been remotely confirmed by Samsung. Just a few benchmark sites posting the possibility of a Tegra 2 version.
At least thats what I have seen so far.

Tegra 2 + SLCD = Russia and Middle East.
not confirmed .. but like the old galaxy s i9000
when it came with slcd and another processor it was for ME and Russia

I think sammy would want their SOC in the "premier" markets. And maybe use tegra as a way to fill in the gaps in countries that are maybe less inclined to buy a super high end smart phone
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I have never seen proof anywhere that the Tegra 2 version will come with SC-LCD.
Has anyone else?
i think this time around, samsung is going to keep the screen on both the versions as Super AMOLED Plus, and only change the SOC where necessary.

Its probably not relevant to you guys but apparently the combination of Tegra/SAMOLED+ is coming to Hong Kong.
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Its probably not relevant to you guys but apparently the combination of Tegra/SAMOLED+ is coming to Hong Kong.
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Sorry for your region ! Though thanks for the news, interesting.

EleCtrOx666 said:
Sorry for your region ! Though thanks for the news, interesting.
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Nah.. i'll get the one with exynos in uk
anyway glad its coming with SAMOLED+ cuz thats what makes SGSII stand out.

how can samsung still call a version with slcd and tegra 2 samsung galaxy s 2. its highly likely that handset with slcd will be considerably thicker and will be less efficient in consuming battery. there may be tegra2 with samoled plus but i highly doubt slcd version will come out. may be tegra 2 with amoled or superamoled ?????

awesome-member said:
how can samsung still call a version with slcd and tegra 2 samsung galaxy s 2. its highly likely that handset with slcd will be considerably thicker and will be less efficient in consuming battery. there may be tegra2 with samoled plus but i highly doubt slcd version will come out. may be tegra 2 with amoled or superamoled ?????
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No SAmoled and SAmoled+ at the same time! Samsung is replacing SA with SA+. SA is basically not produced. It is old technology, makes no sense for them to use factory capacities for SA when they can use them for SA+.
And Samsung Galaxy S II is a series or family of devices, just like the original Galaxy S was. You had various screen and processor technologies in the original SGS, as well as various screen sizes!
How you distinguish these - by model number.
SA+ with Exynos is model GT-i9100 (followed by letters of the target market)
hope this helps.

kreoXDA said:
No SAmoled and SAmoled+ at the same time! Samsung is replacing SA with SA+. SA is basically not produced. It is old technology, makes no sense for them to use factory capacities for SA when they can use them for SA+.
And Samsung Galaxy S II is a series or family of devices, just like the original Galaxy S was. You had various screen and processor technologies in the original SGS, as well as various screen sizes!
How you distinguish these - by model number.
SA+ with Exynos is model GT-i9100 (followed by letters of the target market)
hope this helps.
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i am aware of those version of sgs2. i was just saying without exyonus(i can't for the life in me get the spelling right) ,samoled plus and the slimness would it still be samsung galaxy s2.i am aware of the fact that superamoled plus is scarce at the moment but how can samsung face such a difficulty in finding stock for ONE product line which is bound to be a success.

sckc23 said:
Its probably not relevant to you guys but apparently the combination of Tegra/SAMOLED+ is coming to Hong Kong.
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Wow, that seems like a positive confirmation that there is a Tegra 2 version in the works.

I have post this before that the rumor about the SLCD is over hype and not correct, why people still mention it, and yes, there is tegra 2 version but it come with super amoled plus...

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Samsung's Galaxy S II to have a Tegra 2 version

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Just as we lay to rest the ghost of a phantom Tegra 2 chip inside the LG Revolution, here comes the specter of another unconfirmed appearance for NVIDIA's dual-core application processor, this time inside Samsung's Galaxy S II. If you'll recall, we were initially informed by Samsung's PR crew that their new Android flagship would run on NVIDIA's hardware, however a subsequent correction informed us that the processor inside would in fact be Samsung's own Exynos. Now, it turns out, both might be true. AnandTech have come across some benchmark results showing a GT-i9103 with Tegra 2 listed as its grunt provider, while Pocket-lint and others have noted that Samsung's own spec sheet for the Galaxy S II states that the dual-core Exynos "may not be applicable in some regions." The likeliest scenario here is that Samsung hasn't yet reached sufficient volumes with its own processor production and will rely on NVIDIA's Tegra 2 for handsets outside its critical markets -- much in the same vein as it replaced Super AMOLED with Super Clear LCD screens in Russia and some other territories. Don't fret too much, though, performance disparities between the two aren't likely to be overly significant.
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How annoying will it be to develop custom roms for the upcoming Galaxy S II.
All I want is a non-keyboard rocking 4g LTE/WIMAX Galaxy S2 Variant for Sprint, it's either that or I buy the Galaxy S II and stay with the expensive deathstar (ATT)!
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How annoying will it be to develop custom roms for the upcoming Galaxy S II.
All I want is a non-keyboard rocking 4g LTE/WIMAX Galaxy S2 Variant for Sprint, it's either that or I buy the Galaxy S II and stay with the expensive deathstar (ATT)!
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there has been conflicting reports
but my understanding is that is doesn't have a tegra 2
but has a dual core version of samsungs own hummingbird.
Well the hummingbird processors aren't bad...I said I wouldnt b buying another sammy phone but if the phone ends up looking like the "leaked" photo then I will have to buy it...super amoled 4.3 inch screen eill b yummy
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i really hope this turns out to be false! it will mess the updates and custom roms
If its true, which one would be better ?
for sure samsung will use tegra 2 in i9103 for some countries
from everything ive seen tegra2 is better.. sigh i want tegra2 with samoled+ screen, tegra2 has better graphics and better java and flash rendering.. which honestly is all that matters, since nothing is delayed on the galaxy s1 right now except the internet..
I did read a post (I think it was on engadget) that said, the Samsung galaxy s 2s that have a tegra 2 CPU will also have a LCD screen and not a amoled.
soraxd said:
from everything ive seen tegra2 is better.. sigh i want tegra2 with samoled+ screen, tegra2 has better graphics and better java and flash rendering.. which honestly is all that matters, since nothing is delayed on the galaxy s1 right now except the internet..
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where did you read that? i thought the Orion is more powerful than the tegra 2.
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where did you read that? i thought the Orion is more powerful than the tegra 2.
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Anandtech did some benchmark testing in Barcelona.
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...i-preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked
But the SW used at that conference (and maybe the HW since the phone gets very hot according to Anandtech) is probably not finished.
And benchmarks can be unreliable.
Unoptimised drivers is what it falls down to. Tegra has been around for longer, so it most likely has been optimised better.
Just need to wait and see.
Yeah, and samsung is well known for developping great drivers and software, which is updated regularly, just like the SGS had great performances out of the box thanx to the clever use of RFS
I do agree that it's to soon to know exactly how it will perform, but I wouldn't count too much on samsung improving performances :-/
Confirmend by NVIDIA
Nvidia Confirms Samsung Galaxy S II Tegra 2 Design Win
Source: http://www.itproportal.com/2011/03/02/exclusive-nvidia-confirms-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-tegra-2-design-win/
guys, is tegra 2 zone available on Galaxy S w/exynos?
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Confirmend by NVIDIA
Nvidia Confirms Samsung Galaxy S II Tegra 2 Design Win
Source: http://www.itproportal.com/2011/03/02/exclusive-nvidia-confirms-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-tegra-2-design-win/
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now engadget confirms it too http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/03/confirmed-tegra-2-equipped-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-is-coming/
custom roms for the galaxy s II is going to be A MESS , and they better not be thinking of sng super lcd instead of super amoled plus
marvinloess said:
guys, is tegra 2 zone available on Galaxy S w/exynos?
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Tegra zone is available for everyone on every phone
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nvidia.tegrazone&feature=search_result
MoonRaven said:
Tegra zone is available for everyone on every phone
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nvidia.tegrazone&feature=search_result
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But you cant install any app/game so its useless.
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But you cant install any app/game so its useless.
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That actually depends. There is a get it now button on games that have been released. The preview games don't have that. Also some games aren't available in all regions. An example on which it worked was dungeon defenders.
First I was like yay because Tegra 2 is awesome, but then I began thinking and yeah this is going to be a damn mess.
We could get the forum split up in GT-I9100 (Exynos version) and GT-I9103 (Tegra 2 version) and the damage could decrease, but it will still split up the Galaxy S II community on here and it depends what version the ROM makers are going to buy, unless there is no difference between the GT-I9100 and the GT-I9103 except for that it has a different SoC I don't see the big problem
I wonder whether the shortage of Exynos chips could be due to Apple's A5. At this point nobody knows what the A5 is, however the A4 was Sammy's Hummingbird so the A5 could just be the Exynos...
Guess we'll find out on the 11th.

I9100, I9101 and I9103

There are Galaxy S II variants for International market. I9101 is NFC-enabled while I9103 is Tegra 2-based. So, which one will get the most of the development here? It's soooo important for me. I see that Galaxy SL has very little attention from devs. So, I don't want to be on a loser's side. Or is it not gonna be like Galaxy S/SL?
I think active contributors are also early users, the i9100 should be a good base. Anyway, the nfc ver. is very similar. The tegra based will be less followed I think.
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I think that developers will focus more on the I9100 as its the first version to get release in the UK. the NFC version shouldn't be that much of a difference the tegra 2 will get less attention.
mawardi said:
There are Galaxy S II variants for International market. I9101 is NFC-enabled while I9103 is Tegra 2-based. So, which one will get the most of the development here? It's soooo important for me. I see that Galaxy SL has very little attention from devs. So, I don't want to be on a loser's side. Or is it not gonna be like Galaxy S/SL?
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Technically NFC is only difference between I9100 and I9101, so same development can be applied.. for Tegra 2 version, all CPU development will be bit different.. Gamer lovers will like tigra 2(though I9100 is better for all non-Tegra games).. most Devs are into Roms, themes, root, overclock.. so for me I9100 is safe bet
mawardi said:
There are Galaxy S II variants for International market. I9101 is NFC-enabled while I9103 is Tegra 2-based. So, which one will get the most of the development here? It's soooo important for me. I see that Galaxy SL has very little attention from devs. So, I don't want to be on a loser's side. Or is it not gonna be like Galaxy S/SL?
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Dark_Lord0122 said:
I think that developers will focus more on the I9100 as its the first version to get release in the UK. the NFC version shouldn't be that much of a difference the tegra 2 will get less attention.
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The I9103 with its Tegra 2 chip should run existing software that is tailored for Tegra 2. Since there is huge backing behind Tegra 2, the I9103 is not really getting less attention.
since many "tegra" games already run on the i9100, and that the exynos is so much faster, tegra is like, bleh.
also the tegra version is a super lcd i think?
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since many "tegra" games already run on the i9100, and that the exynos is so much faster, tegra is like, bleh.
also the tegra version is a super lcd i think?
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"Many" refers mostly to the Gameloft games. There are many other 3D games out there that the exynos can't run. I'd say "handful" instead.
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"Many" refers mostly to the Gameloft games. There are many other 3D games out there that the exynos can't run. I'd say "handful" instead.
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errr, nope, Gameloft has never done any "Tegra 2 only" games that I'm aware of, so all their games will probably be updated to support Exynos eventually.
I think "many" referred to the games which are supposed to run only on Tegra 2 devices like Samurai Revenge 2 HD, Pinball HD, or Guerilla Bob THD, but which work perfectly on Exynos once you use the appropriate drivers, proving that the "Tegra 2 optimised" is just marketting and a software lock.
Just wanted to make that clear, but actually I agree that most games will probably be optimised for Tegra 2 since it will be the most common platform. (Also Xperia play seems to have lots of games designed for it... I guess it's good news for those who are stuck on single core/Adreno 205 phones...)
I9101 is going to be powered by TI OMAP 4430 after all (source: GSMArena).
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since many "tegra" games already run on the i9100, and that the exynos is so much faster, tegra is like, bleh.
also the tegra version is a super lcd i think?
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We in Croatia are getting the Tegra version and it does indeed have a Super Amoled+ diplay. Still it's only clocked at 1.0 Ghz compared to the 1.2 Ghz of the Exynos
I think its way too early to suggest any particular variant will get more dev, i have to say though that I don't think we know which chipset the NFC version will have though either.
It will ultimately depend on which phones hits the devs hands and that will probably be determined by region and quantity rather that who got which first first and what chipset it is running.
We are just going to have to see, but also hope that some of the dev is interchangeable between handsets with a few minor tweaks.
Some nice comparsion charts:
inspiredgeek. c o m/2011/03/13/samsung-galaxy-sii-s2-exynos-4210-vs-tegra-2-which-version-will-be-better/
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Some nice comparsion charts:
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Uhh that is a very bad charts they stole early benchmark pictures from anandtech site here is original early preview, they were done on 1ghz and old firmware SGS2, i ran GLBenchmark 2.0 on another site as part of review , SGS2 blows anything away.
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@ghost77, sorry
first, waiting for S I909 the dual on CDMA-GSM galaxy, but since theres no information about the exact time, i went to I9100, magnificent masterpiece by samsung

Samsung Hercules Pics

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The picture above makes it quite obvious with the “Galaxy S II” logo printed on the back. While this is expected to be a rather minor upgrade, with no major changes, a few improvements are expected, such as a seemingly larger 4.5-inch display, as opposed to the current Galaxy S II’s 4.3-inch one, and support for T-Mobile’s faster HSPA+ 42Mbps connection.
Much like the original Galaxy S II, this slightly revised model is expected to include the hardware and features that made the previous one successful, namely its dual-core 1.2 GHz SoC processor, 1 GB of RAM, 16 GB of internal storage, an 8-megapixel camera and the ability to output fully uncompressed 1080p high-definition video through its built-in HDMI port. There are no apparent changes software-wise: much like the original release, the revised Galaxy S II is expected to include the latest version of Android, 2.3 Gingerbread, along with Samsung’s custom TouchWiz interface, which is aimed at streamlining Android’s standard user experience. The phone’s back now sports a brushed metal look as well, contrasting with previous Galaxy S II models.
Although the handset is not yet available through a carrier in the US, its release is projected to take place sometime this month. In addition to T-Mobile, this variant of the Galaxy S II is expected to also be available North of the border through the Canadian carrier Telus.
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I dont see any upgrades i see tmobile cutting cost and going with crap CPU/GPU and having bigger screen ...I want a galaxy s 2 not some hybrid that will cause more delays on updates and problems when looking for compatible games
international here i come
demo23019 said:
I dont see any upgrades i see tmobile cutting cost and going with crap CPU/GPU and having bigger screen ...I want a galaxy s 2 not some hybrid that will cause more delays on updates and problems when looking for compatible games
international here i come
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Lol, besides AT&T is buying T-Mobile and I'm pretty sure that AT&T's network won't support T-Mobile's 3G/4G.
lol i said international galaxy s 2....that supports att towers
why do you think new tmobile phones support both tmobile and ATT frequencies
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lol i said international galaxy s 2....that supports att towers
why do you think new tmobile phones support both tmobile and ATT frequencies
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Lol, then my bad. I thought you meant Hercules not International. But the merger might be finished when the Galaxy S III comes out lol.
It looks nice
So what? I don't care, we're talking about SGS2
Looks like a bigger, slimmer nexus s. In my opinion not bad looking, we have to just see if the specs remain the same as original sgs2 or not. Also not sure how comfortable it will be holding a 4.5 inch screen for one hand typing.
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Lol, then my bad. I thought you meant Hercules not International. But the merger might be finished when the Galaxy S III comes out lol.
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be before the end of the year....4 months lol don't think galaxy s 3 will be out anywhere close to that time frame
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kirdroid said:
Looks like a bigger, slimmer nexus s. In my opinion not bad looking, we have to just see if the specs remain the same as original sgs2 or not. Also not sure how comfortable it will be holding a 4.5 inch screen for one hand typing.
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Not sure why they would change the specs
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That back looks as if it was made of metal.
Interesting.... Im using the international sgs2 on tmobile usa right now and the edge speeds are a bit of a buzzkill. Im waiting for the hercules to drop because the tmobile 4g speeds when i had the g2x were insane 9mb down at night 7mb down average. On the other hand if this doesnt have the exynos chip i think ill pass and hold out for the nexus prime.
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...such as a seemingly larger 4.5-inch display, as opposed to the current Galaxy S II’s 4.3-inch one...
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already the current display is kinda big, but 4.5 is too much, soon it will cross over to tablet territory
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Sleepycat3 said:
That back looks as if it was made of metal.
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The back is the same with Galaxy R...search for it.
maranello69 said:
already the current display is kinda big, but 4.5 is too much, soon it will cross over to tablet territory
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Lol, you haven't crossed over to tablet territory until it's 7in. or more. I wonder if on the ASUS Pad phone, if you could use the tablet to make calls still. Lol...
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I've heard also that it has been rumored the possibility for it to include 1.5 GHz dual-core Snapdragon S3 instead of the 1.2 GHz Exynos.
4.5" it's the same as the Infuse 4G... kinda biggie... it's incredible how much difference there's in between (actual) 4.3" and a 4.5", seems really a lot more than just .2"!
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I've heard also that it has been rumored the possibility for it to include 1.5 GHz dual-core Snapdragon S3 instead of the 1.2 GHz Exynos.
4.5" it's the same as the Infuse 4G... kinda biggie... it's incredible how much difference there's in between (actual) 4.3" and a 4.5", seems really a lot more than just .2"!
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I hope they upgrade the battery with that. I mean 1.5ghz. Wow lol. But I oc'd mine to 2ghz. Stable of course.
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I'm very interested in this phone, I can't wait to get my damn dirty hands on this phone the internet should be crazy on this phone.
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I'm very interested in this phone, I can't wait to get my damn dirty hands on this phone the internet should be crazy on this phone.
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Just wish it had LTE. : P
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Just wish it had LTE. : P
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that would be a VERIZON gs2.. too doesn't have or would have LTE in about 3 years lol

Samsung Galaxy SIII vs S4 (or any other phone) comparison

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fine, nice idea mods
by the way i read some where that most of the existing powervr 5 series gpus have the hardware for opengl es 3.0 support , its just a matter of time before they get it via a driver update.
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here is the link from anandtech
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6644/imagination-demonstrates-powervr-series-6-rogue-on-lgs-h13-soc
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fine, nice idea mods
by the way i read some where that most of the existing powervr 5 series gpus have the hardware for opengl es 3.0 support , its just a matter of time before they get it via a driver update.
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The second part is some news about a subset of OpenGL ES 3.0 features that will be enabled retroactively on all PowerVR Series5XT hardware. The entire lineup apparently has the hardware to enable these OpenGL ES 3.0 features as an optional extension inside OpenGL ES 2.0.
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great
All of em with 2gb ram will be tons better. No comparison. Back to true multitasking and no iPhone clone crap reloading all apps.
I still can't believe that all flagship phones will be running FHD in 2013. I wonder how much battery can be saved using a HD display instead of a FHD display, rest all factors being equal?
I have a feeling that the benefits of going to FHD are merely from marketing perspective at this time. More resources used for GPU and display. "Diminishing marginal utility" applies here?
I just didn't expect it so soon. As long as battery life remains great, give me a 4K screen. I will never complain.
Came out today.
http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...k-lte-exynos-5-octa-powervr-sgx-544mp-164258/
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Came out today.
http://www.androidauthority.com/gal...k-lte-exynos-5-octa-powervr-sgx-544mp-164258/
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That doesn't to be very impresive. I hope its fake lol
djluis48 said:
That doesn't to be very impresive. I hope its fake lol
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Not very impressive?Compared against what?Alienware laptops?My S3 is overclocked to 1.7GHz on the CPU side and 600MHz on the GPU side and still gets "only" up to around 18500 in Antutu.Even the Snapdragon 600 hovers around the 22500 mark.What did you expect?I'd like it better too,but hold on
Anyway,using a PowerVR GPU gets me excited.No more half-arsed ported games and hopefully better performance than the Mali ones.The MP-400 was lovely on the S2 but it's too 2011 and ARM's T-6xx series has yet to prove it's worth something,while PowerVRs are tried and true(Although I have to admit I'll miss the MP-400's monstrous fill rate and I'll hate depending too much on resolution again).I only hope that the Exynos Octa indeed performs considerably better than the Snapdragon 600.Not because the 600 isn't good,but if they are so close in performance,the S800 will obliterate everything and even the Tegra 4 will best the Exynos.I can stand having a less powerful SoC than Qualcomm's(After all the S4 pro blew the Exynos 4412 last year) but not NVidia.I just hate these guys and they deserved being at the bottom of the performance charts.
Anyway,sure thing is that by summer 2013 the S3 will look mid-end and the S2 will look like a toy.I can't wait to get the S4 and get it to run at 2GHz.Yes,I'm crazy.
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That doesn't to be very impresive. I hope its fake lol
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I wonder how Samsung or any other OEM can make something inpressive at all. I had a Xperia Z for the weekend and my S3 doen't feel at all too old.
FHD is nice because it is the industry standard (PC Monitors, TVs ,..) but from my normal reading distance I don't see a difference worth spending money for.
Current high end 3D games run on both phones fine, but they do so on a S2 also....
If Samsung would have put 2GB into the I9300, I guess I skipped the upgrade this year.
Looks like SGS4 won't have premium materials, but plastic again:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/04/eldar-murtazin-galaxy-s-iv-is-built-from-plastic/
HTC One: aluminium
Xperia Z: glass
Nexus 4: glass
iPhone 5: aluminium
So SGS4 will be the only flagship made with plastic?
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Looks like SGS4 won't have premium materials, but plastic again:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/04/eldar-murtazin-galaxy-s-iv-is-built-from-plastic/
HTC One: aluminium
Xperia Z: glass
Nexus 4: glass
iPhone 5: aluminium
So SGS4 will be the only flagship made with plastic?
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Dont know if its true.. but that no5 surprising... I dont mind plastic at all..its light, makes it removable, and dissipates heat better.. no fuss about loosing paint like in alluminium and smudges like in glass ( the nexus n4 s4 chip is said to tgrottle at stock to save the glass).. performance and funtion above looks always..
I only wish they bring out a better design and look or I might get something else..
Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
First samsung teaser for S4 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dIEfNaNCkKM
Look at 0:13 to 0:18 ^^
uvaman said:
First samsung teaser for S4 )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dIEfNaNCkKM
Look at 0:13 to 0:18 ^^
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no its note2
edit : HMM it seems not , i'm not sure but looks smaller than GN2
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Galaxy S IV will utilize eye-tracking technology that enables users to scroll through webpages without touching the screen
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The phone will track a user’s eyes to determine where to scroll, said a Samsung employee
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Source: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/04/samsungs-new-smartphone-will-track-eyes-to-scroll-pages/
So does the Enoxsys Octo core cream the Snapdragon 600 found in the HTC One?
And is the S4 being announced and released on the same day?
Galaxy S IV will utilize eye-tracking technology that enables users to scroll through webpages without touching the screen
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So, Samsung Galaxy S4 will be an EYE-PHONE??? :laugh:
eye-phone... iphone... no? nothing? Oh well, I tried.
Kremata said:
So, Samsung Galaxy S4 will be an EYE-PHONE??? :laugh:
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Yep.. They have already trade-marked "Eye Scroll" and "Eye Pause".
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4010:yima0r.2.1
Computer application software having a feature of sensing eye movements and scrolling displays of mobile devices, namely, mobile phones, smart phones and tablet computers according to eye movements; digital cameras; mobile telephones; smart phones; tablet computers
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Eye Pause shows no specific description.
-A-P-M- said:
Looks like SGS4 won't have premium materials, but plastic again
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What's the problem with polymer casing? I think it's a good marketing decision.
First of all, I'm not planing to keep the phone for 20 years.
Second, it makes the phone lighter.
Third, makes the phone cheaper.
Fourth, I prefer to pay for better techology then fancy casing.
Fifth, they all need case protector anyway.
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Yep.. They have already trade-marked "Eye Scroll" and "Eye Pause".
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4010:yima0r.2.1
Eye Pause shows no specific description.
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Actually I believe the first phone wich got those features is the S3 on the leaked 4.2.1 rom. The only thing is even if they are activated, they don't work. I believe they need fixing and the rom was a test one or something. So yeah, it's not gonna be something S4 exclusive, we are going to recieve those too . Till now, all Galaxy S series demonstrated that they are BEASTS and very difficult to let behind, they all get features official or non-official.
Look back at the support the S1 recieves and you'll be amazed

GT-i9505 vs GT-i9305

Worth upgrading??
I think this SGS4 just an evolution and not a revolution. I know that the level of the camera we have great evolution ... and there are more 2s sensors ... but it worth the astronomical value of 799 €? ... otherwise we are talking about two phones with powerful Quad-cores with 2GB ram, communications with LTE and a design virtually identical ...
And then Portugal (as other European countries) will not have the Exynos version...very sad ...
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I'm in portugal, too
I agree, mostly
I'm coming from an i9300, though
can't wait to buy the phone, but I'm getting it carrier locked to TMN which will be selling for 649€
I don't think it's worth upgrading tbh, the 9305 is good enough for now
maybe when the Note III comes out, yes
Petermira said:
Worth upgrading??
I think this SGS4 just an evolution and not a revolution. I know that the level of the camera we have great evolution ... and there are more 2s sensors ... but it worth the astronomical value of 799 €? ... otherwise we are talking about two phones with powerful Quad-cores with 2GB ram, communications with LTE and a design virtually identical ...
And then Portugal (as other European countries) will not have the Exynos version...very sad ...
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So just don't get it
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The S4 is definitely not a revolution. So I'm not sure an upgrade from the S4 is really worth it, unless you can easily afford the new one. There are many aspects improved on the S4, but no most-have in my opinion.
andybrid said:
The S4 is definitely not a revolution. So I'm not sure an upgrade from the S4 is really worth it, unless you can easily afford the new one. There are many aspects improved on the S4, but no most-have in my opinion.
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S3 uses a very dated GPU. Samsung had been using the Mali-400 since the S2 and it's horrible. I'm glad they stopped using it now. Power VR or Adreno 320 are much better. So yes. It's a very good upgrade.
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Coming from S2 it´s a revolution
Mittaa said:
Coming from S2 it´s a revolution
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Which is why I have just preordered! Would I if had an s3? No, probably not
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The 5 reasons why I upgrade to the GT-I9505 are:
1. From 720p to 1080p!
2. From 4,7" to 5,0" inch!
3. From 8MP to 13MP!
4. Way better GPU!
5. Longer support from Samsung!
Petermira said:
Worth upgrading??
I think this SGS4 just an evolution and not a revolution. I know that the level of the camera we have great evolution ... and there are more 2s sensors ... but it worth the astronomical value of 799 €? ... otherwise we are talking about two phones with powerful Quad-cores with 2GB ram, communications with LTE and a design virtually identical ...
And then Portugal (as other European countries) will not have the Exynos version...very sad ...
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Then get the i9305.
barondebxl said:
Then get the i9305.
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I already have the GT-i9305...
Ok, maybe i will by the S4 but only the GT-i9500 version with Exynos octa processor...now, in Portugal, Samsung will just debut the GT-i9505...I will be waiting for the exynos version
Why ask others? This is pretty simple...
1. It will have a much better screen quality.
2. It will be faster.
3. It will have a better camera.
4. It will have better battery life.
5. It will get updates faster. (plus all the new features it comes with)
Now, are you willing to spend the extra money to get those? That is the question.
Edit: Exynos, if community roms are important to you you probably want to stick to Qualcomm since it will have way better support.
ptscon said:
Why ask others? This is pretty simple...
1. It will have a much better screen quality. <- are you ****ing kidding ? Is the same ****ing screen
2. It will be faster. <- yes, this one is true
3. It will have a better camera. <- So..... 4 =/ 4 ? Dude, it's the same sensor
4. It will have better battery life. <- It's supposed to be 25% more efficient, true
5. It will get updates faster. (plus all the new features it comes with) <- Really ?
Now, are you willing to spend the extra money to get those? That is the question.
Edit: Exynos, if community roms are important to you you probably want to stick to Qualcomm since it will have way better support.
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Not my typo below
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Not my typo below
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I'm not sure if you're serious, kidding or just missed that this thread is about S3 vs S4. Not Exynos vs Snapdragon S4
wich one will have better support from whole xda devs ?
octa or snapdragon ?
nowy57 said:
wich one will have better support from whole xda devs ?
octa or snapdragon ?
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Snapdragon.
1- Because it's open sourced and well documented.
2- Because most devs are from the US, which is only getting i9505 (for now).
ptscon said:
I'm not sure if you're serious, kidding or just missed that this thread is about S3 vs S4. Not Exynos vs Snapdragon S4
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Oops. Too many numbers, already turned me crazy. I don't know what to choose between S4 si everything staying with i9xx looks like an S4 lol
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Petermira said:
And then Portugal (as other European countries) will not have the Exynos version...very sad ...
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Exynos version will come in august to Portugal
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cebs said:
Exynos version will come in august to Portugal
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Great news man!!! I hope it`s true:highfive::highfive:
cebs said:
Exynos version will come in august to Portugal
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Who told you that?
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