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HD2 vs N1 video quality

What is the deal with the N1 youtube video??..or video in general. It is complete crap. My wife got the HD2 a few days ago and we pulled up the same youtube videos and I was shocked. My video on the n1 was choppy pixelated and in some cases it didn't even use the entire screen.
What is going on? I don't watch a ton of youtube videos on my phone but thought it was just the videos that were uploaded.
I paid $574 for this phone and I cant watch a decent mp4 video. Am I missing something. I currently have the M Desire ROM but had CM and and Stock for video was terrible.
Any thoughts peeps?? That said I love my n1 but feel like I have been sold short.

Did you play the video on HQ? Not sure if you're aware, but you have the option to do so when you're on YouTube. let me know the outcome. I love the video quality on my N1.

Hold on. I am quite certain that you're doing something wrong. When connecting to youtube, are you using WiFi? Are you choosing to watch the Video in High Qaulity? When playing movies onto your phone, what format are you using? I don't know if there is a native format that works, but I paid the 1.99 for ACT1, which plays all my files very well. I am certain that the 'video quality' is much more intense on the N1 due to the AMOLED screen, how can you even compare to a TFT? Are you watching a movie while walking down the street on a sunny day?

Are you sure you are watching the high quality version of the video? I believe the N1 defaults to the low quality videos on the youtube app. The high quality ones on my N1 looks great imo.

rjhay22 said:
Did you play the video on HD? Not sure if you're aware, but you have the option to do so when you're on YouTube. let me know the outcome. I love the video quality on my N1.
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I am running stock on my N1. When I play youtube via Wifi it plays in high quality. When I do the same but with 3G it is very awful.
I have not seen any options when on 3G to play in high quality.
Can you help!

Jack Everyman said:
Are you sure you are watching the high quality version of the video? I believe the N1 defaults to the low quality videos on the youtube app. The high quality ones on my N1 looks great imo.
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I am sure, he does not watch it in HQ

when you're on wifi it automatically plays it on HQ, but if you're on 3G you have to hit the menu button and choose to play it on HQ. It'll take a bit to load.
JAW$ said:
I am running stock on my N1. When I play youtube via Wifi it plays in high quality. When I do the same but with 3G it is very awful.
I have not seen any options when on 3G to play in high quality. an you help!
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rjhay22 said:
Did you play the video on HQ? Not sure if you're aware, but you have the option to do so when you're on YouTube. let me know the outcome. I love the video quality on my N1.
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Lol..Thank you my fellow N1 brothers and sisters. that was the problem. It defaults to low quality. I feel dumb. Thanks a lot. Problem solved.

Glad we helped you out... Now kiss your N1 and beg for forgiveness for thinking it doesn't compare to the HD2.!!!! Hahahaha.
oklahomatulsa said:
Lol..Thank you my fellow N1 brothers and sisters. that was the problem. It defaults to low quality. I feel dumb. Thanks a lot. Problem solved.
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rjhay22 said:
when you're on wifi it automatically plays it on HQ, but if you're on 3G you have to hit the menu button and choose to play it on HQ. It'll take a bit to load.
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Hi,
I can't see any menu button?! help please

JAW$ said:
Hi,
I can't see any menu button?! help please
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When the video loads "clik" th e"menus button and...

JAW$ said:
Hi,
I can't see any menu button?! help please
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Roflmao, its the touch sensitive button with the four lines on the bottom of the phone..
I just can't believe you didn't know that, how do you do things in apps? In the YouTube app, your press
Menu > More > Watch in high quality

Eclair~ said:
Roflmao, its the touch sensitive button with the three lines on the bottom of the phone..
I just can't believe you didn't know that, how do you do things in apps?
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He doesn't. He probably just pulls the battery everytime he needs to exit an app...

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Glad we helped you out... Now kiss your N1 and beg for forgiveness for thinking it doesn't compare to the HD2.!!!! Hahahaha.
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lol. yes indeed.

LOL thats funny. But perhaps I shoulda explained it more like Eclair did. Menu / More / play in high quality. My bad.
antoniouslj said:
He doesn't. He probably just pulls the battery everytime he needs to exit an app...
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antoniouslj said:
He doesn't. He probably just pulls the battery everytime he needs to exit an app...
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omg....I just watched a clip in hq......so so so clear.
I never know there is such option lol

New Android users are so interesting..

Eclair~ said:
New Android users are so interesting..
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//chuckles n.n makes me laugh.... android noobs are quite entertaining.

Why does video on 2.1 suck compared to 1.5?

I've tried re-encoding the movies and messing with the settings, but I always end up with much crappier video than when it played on 1.5. I don't remember 1.5 having the banding issues in the darker colors, but in 2.1 it's really quite horrible. Has anyone found a solution to this? Even youtube videos look like garbage. I thought the final release would possibly fix this, but it hasn't.

They have the 2.1 source now, so expect fixes in the camera since thats everyone's problem lol maybe they can implement 1.5 camera in the 2.1 rom who knows.

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They have the 2.1 source now, so expect fixes in the camera since thats everyone's problem lol maybe they can implement 1.5 camera in the 2.1 rom who knows.
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Devs had 2.1 source before, and have had for a long time. What devs do NOT have is source for the HTC .29 kernel (yet).

It's not really the camera I'm talking about... I probably should have been clear. lol Sorry, I was just a little disappointed..
I have some movies that I ripped from my dvd collection that I watch once in a while on my phone. On 1.5, I never noticed any "Banding" issues. The video would be smooth and look really good. But since I updated to 2.1 (custom roms with leaks) the video just looks like crap, especially if it's darker. You can see pixelated areas and severe banding. Especially in Total Recall and The Thing from Another Planet (1950s one). The darker areas are just crappy looking. Tons of banding issues and pixelation.

Those of you who dont know what banding is..
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**edit** i havent recorded a video since fresh 2.0d and i just now recorded a video on the new 2.1 oc fresh toast rom and i get this lol. Very odd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5kh1aq3g-o

I personally have not noticed this. I cannot imagine that it has to do with your conversion software/format, but I use videora without any issues. It's made for an iPhone but works perfectly for our heros since they have the same resolution. Might be worth a look.

Handbrake for the win.

tstack77 said:
I personally have not noticed this. I cannot imagine that it has to do with your conversion software/format, but I use videora without any issues. It's made for an iPhone but works perfectly for our heros since they have the same resolution. Might be worth a look.
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Iphone has A 1.3 MP Camera the Hero has 5 MP Camera they dont have the same resolution. The hero is capable of downgrading to a 1.3 resolution.

Powers16 said:
Iphone has A 1.3 MP Camera the Hero has 5 MP Camera they dont have the same resolution. The hero is capable of downgrading to a 1.3 resolution.
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Screen resolution and camera resolution are two completely different things.

My bad i thought he meant camera Res

Dochoppy said:
Handbrake for the win.
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.......yup yup.........

I've used both videora and Handbrake. I mostly have used Handbrake, but I went as far as downloading a crap ton of others to try them out and nothing fixed it, no matter how many times I tweaked the settings.
Do any of you watch movies? Not ones made by the camera on the phone, I'm talking about real movies from DVDs.

CodeMonk said:
I've used both videora and Handbrake. I mostly have used Handbrake, but I went as far as downloading a crap ton of others to try them out and nothing fixed it, no matter how many times I tweaked the settings.
Do any of you watch movies? Not ones made by the camera on the phone, I'm talking about real movies from DVDs.
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The screen resolution on the hero to me wouldn't be all too great to watch movies from. I think the EVO might be better for that among other things.

markus_del_marko said:
The screen resolution on the hero to me wouldn't be all too great to watch movies from. I think the EVO might be better for that among other things.
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It worked fine on 1.5. Screen resolution has nothing to do with it.

Nexus S can have 720p recording

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In this version ( Vodafone AUS ) we can see it have S-LCD screen , and i think the new OTA FW have 720p update ( i hope so )

Man I hope so!!!
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I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?

willentrekin said:
I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?
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Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.

thommcg said:
Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.
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Assuming that ad copy is accurate.
And also assuming that this Euro version is the same hardware as the US version (which it clearly isn't since it's SLCD and not SAMOLED - who knows what other internal changes it might have).
We've been led to believe in the past that the lack of 720p video recording was a hardware bandwidth limitation...no software will change that if it's true. We could do 720p if/when some gets around to hacking in a method, but it will be at reduced framerates. I suspect a lower resolution at higher framerates will usually be a more pleasant viewing experience.

The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.

That would be the most bull**** thing Samsung haf done yet.
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The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.
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Sent from my Onyx CM7 Google Nexus S!

Is it possible to upscale to 720i instead? Similar to tv's?
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Before everyone jumps to conclusions, keep in mind that the original launch page for the Nexus S (http://www.google.com/nexus) said it would be able to take "HD videos" on the Features page while stating only 720x480 on the Specs page. As we all know, 720x480 is "Enhanced Definition" at best, not HD.
So this could be a similar situation. Or, it might have a different camera module that has the on-board video processing chip.
Personally, I think the 720x480 video the original NS takes are actually pretty decent, and I'd much prefer the battery life improvements of an AMOLED screen over SuperLCD.

I also think the video is quite good already, but higher res wouldn't hurt. But the still camera needs some work, my NS is not nearly as good a my old vibrant.
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this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
NS camera
Galaxy S camera

demo23019 said:
this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11013723&postcount=158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11046683&postcount=168
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051605&postcount=170

When does the SLCD version hit shelves? If its a codec issue, why doesn't Google come out and say that

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these make sense, i never thought of it that way, i always knew that the GS phones had more codecs than the NS because of touchwiz and such but i never related those codecs and HD recording :O

The problem is, if its a codec issue then how do you get it onto the sns if its a matter of Google not paying for it? I don't see how anyone can fix that. How do you even get codecs on this phone? Sounds like there's no legal way to do it right?
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miss read ..removed

Are you still convinced that it's an hardware problem?
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
Read under encoding, and you realize by yourselves that H.264 encoding it's not supported on android 2.3.3 and before. First version of android with H.264 encoding is Honeycomb (3.0).
So it's definitely a codec thing.

Considering one of the lead Android devs said on his twitter that 720p recording is not available on the Nexus S due to hardware bandwidth limitation, I tend to believe him. I am not sure why we have ANOTHER 720p thread either. There is already a longggg one open that talks about all of this. The ad is incorrect. The SLCD version is the SAME as the AMOLED version, minus the screen.

I think it takes great pics and decent video but you kind of expect HD coming from a phone like this... NFC could have waited for the next google phone IMO.

Doesn't 2.3.3 support WebM, which is a hidef codec?

Tmobile galaxy s 2 test results for real!

okay, i just got my tmo samsung galaxy s 2 as early relase and ran few tests.
i did regular quadrant, smartbench 2011, cf bench.
tested couple times for each.
here are the results.
ps. i forgot to post it, but i also did speed test, and i've been getting 10+ Mbps download speeds and about 3~5 upload. I live in Philadelphia
i also did vallemo, the score ranged from late 800s to mid 900s.
worth buying it or not?
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Very impressive, how's the front camera?
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actually, it was really good.
i tried tango with my friends, had no problem at all.
i'm lovin this phone!!
my friends have both att and sprint version of SGSII, but i don't think tmo's isn't that bad compared to them

Can you play MKV's in the stock video player?
The lack of good out-of-the-box video support is what's holding me back from getting a non-exynos version of the sgs2.

This phone is a beast exynos or no exynos processor. if it cant play MKV format movies out of the box there's an app for that. i would really like to see a web browsing experience with the Hercules.

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Can you play MKV's in the stock video player?
The lack of good out-of-the-box video support is what's holding me back from getting a non-exynos version of the sgs2.
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it's definitely worth it IMO

lookitzjohnny said:
This phone is a beast exynos or no exynos processor. if it cant play MKV format movies out of the box there's an app for that. i would really like to see a web browsing experience with the Hercules.
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web browsing experience is amazing.
everything loads up almost instantly
faster then other SGSIIs by att or sprint IMO
and smooth as well(or hell).

Have you tested the gps?
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Meh. Show me it competes with the upcomming Prime or that it has a backlit illuminated camera. Otherwise it's old news.

Hachi88 said:
Have you tested the gps?
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i don't know what you really mean by testing the gps, but i tried to locate myself on the app called "TeleNav GPS Navigator." it seems it's doing what it's supposed to do.
only couple meters off i think.

}{Alienz}{ said:
Meh. Show me it competes with the upcomming Prime or that it has a backlit illuminated camera. Otherwise it's old news.
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ehh,, it's just me. i'm happy with this phone

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Have you tested the gps?
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The GPS on the SGSII's are perfectly fine.
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This phone is a beast exynos or no exynos processor. if it cant play MKV format movies out of the box there's an app for that. i would really like to see a web browsing experience with the Hercules.
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It's just nicer having hardware acceleration for video decoding. Less glitchiness. Smoother overall. That's why I like the Hummingbird in the Vibrant.

reuthermonkey said:
The GPS on the SGSII's are perfectly fine.
It's just nicer having hardware acceleration for video decoding. Less glitchiness. Smoother overall. That's why I like the Hummingbird in the Vibrant.
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It should be able to as Samsung has a whole bunch of codecs which wouldn't be hard to implement into qualcomm s3 processor. The sound should be better as well compared to the original Samsung galaxy 2. Looks like Samsung can use qualcomm processor to its full potential unlike htc. I will be picking mines up at the store on release date. Now all we need is a forum.

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It should be able to as Samsung has a whole bunch of codecs which wouldn't be hard to implement into qualcomm s3 processor. The sound should be better as well compared to the original Samsung galaxy 2. Looks like Samsung can use qualcomm processor to its full potential unlike htc. I will be picking mines up at the store on release date. Now all we need is a forum.
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cool! enjoy ur phone! 2 more days for u i guess?
i'm loving this phone so much that i can't stop smiling, literally lol
the back cover feels amazing.... can't let it go.
and yea! we want our own forummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOW!!
i need the root method so bad.

hm... i just realized, i'm hearing a small metallic clining sound from the phone when the person i'm calling is talking.
maybe it's defect?
anyway i'm getting a exchange tonight.
i hope the other phone doesn't have any problems...
darn it, i just spent 30 dollars on a screen shield lol

dskim0506 said:
darn it, i just spent 30 dollars on a screen shield lol
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Like a zagg screen protector?
Out of curiosity... Why?
The SGS Vibrant and the SGSII both have gorilla glass. http://gizmodo.com/5726124/what-is-gorilla-glass

I was reading some of the reviews and it mentioned that the phone didn't have wificalling? Is this true?

Dattack said:
I was reading some of the reviews and it mentioned that the phone didn't have wificalling? Is this true?
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It is no longer an application it is build into the system now under wireless networks.
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It is no longer an application it is build into the system now under wireless networks.
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Have you tried it to see if it works? That was one of the selling points to me. Then I heard it wouldn't work and then I heard an update would activate it. Don't know what to believe.

Proves agian samsung is better than htc but this phone still doesnt make my mouth water
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Youtube Playback... HORRIBLE quality!

Hello everyone, I'm a new S4 i9505 "happy" owner.
I'm happy with everything about my new phone, EXCEPT when it comes to the Youtube application.
Whether I'm on 3G/4G or Wifi, the quality of videos is definitely BAD... borders look blurry, unacceptable. And I'm talking about HD videos. Videos that are supposed to be 1080p.
Yes, the HD option is turned on.
My friend owns an HTC One and Youtube videos looks just great, just the way they're supposed to be.
How is this possible? Do I have a defective device? In any other situation the display looks perfectly fine.
Did anybody else notice this?
Thanks in advance.

I just checked and it happens to me too ... i have the gt i9500 ...

have you guys tried updating the application an update came out a couple of days back ...
i hav i9500 and didnt face any problems like this till now....

UPDATE:
Ok, this is pretty strange.
I decided to uninstall the downloaded Youtube app and restore the stock one (I run the latest Samsung firmware).
SURPRISE! Problem is GONE! Videos are now crystal clear! Just as they should be.
I wander where the problem is with the latest Youtube app... During the playback I click the "HD" symbol (option on top right of the screen) and it seems turned ON (no red line under though.
Anyone else tried??

Quality on my i9100 is poor even in hd. I'm running carbon room 1.8 and things were fine before YouTube update...

I have the same problem on my Galaxy S2 LTE. It has nothing to do with my network, Wi-Fi, or video quality as I've read elsewhere.
Videos looked clear with the old YouTube, but when they updated the interface, videos look pixelated when in full screen. It's like they left out the smoothing for when videos get resized.

Yup I can confirm the video quality on the latest YouTube app it terrible.
I used an older version and it's great
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Obagleyfreer said:
Yup I can confirm the video quality on the latest YouTube app it terrible.
I used an older version and it's great
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Well, no. Video quality on the latest Youtube app (v5.021) is simply awesome :good:

Have you increased the video quality in setting's? I'm playing full 1080 videos. No issues here
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I have the same problem with the new UI (latest version). Playing movies in HD quality looks a lot worse than in the previous version. Don't really wanna roll back because I love the new design. Hope someone finds a fix.
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Anyone found a solution yet?
I hate the new version's video quality.

I 've been Googling for a solution but haven't found one yet. There are multiple topics about this though but none have a solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2414543
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/youtube/nRKQSLD95Qw
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1885518
http://androidforums.com/nexus-7-2013/765061-youtube-poor-video-quality.html
I wonder if it 's only a minority that is bothered by it or if people just don't see it. I 'm gonna do a rollback and I 'll try and post a before & after pic to show the difference.

Ok, I 've made a comparison of one of my movies with the two latest versions:
Version 4.5.17 (previous version of Youtube, with the old UI):
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Version 5.0.21 (latest version of Youtube, with the new UI):
You can clearly see a difference especially around the edges. It 's harder to spot in a still than in a movie but you can still see it. Look closely at the edges of my jacket, the snow, the funbox or the treeline
I 'm sticking with version 4.5.17 until Google fixes this. Even though I like the new UI, it doesn't really add anything besides the stupid floating window which I actually find annoying.
My device is a Desire HD running Mustaavalkosta 's CM10.1 SR1.1 ROM. Resolution of this device is 800x480 on a 4.3" screen.

People keep assuming it's to do with video quality, but it's not. Poor video quality creates a kind of fuzzy blurry. Bad resizing without smoothing (is it called interpolation or anti aliasing?) creates a sharp pixelated effect which is what's happening.

yingjai said:
People keep assuming it's to do with video quality, but it's not. Poor video quality creates a kind of fuzzy blurry. Bad resizing without smoothing (is it called interpolation or anti aliasing?) creates a sharp pixelated effect which is what's happening.
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That is exactly what it looks like. You see this a lot in games but I had never seen this before in movies. It 's like they disabled AA for some reason.

Got the new Galaxy Note 3 and am glad to say the pixelated effect is not present on stock Jellybean. It is still present on my Skyrocket with CM11, but I guess it doesn't matter anymore.
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The latest version finally solved this!!

Last version of youtube and no problem:thumbup:
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