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I just found another painful bug....this one is related to charging (battery). I normally put my qtek on charge all through the night when I go to bed. For the last 4-5 days I have been unplugging the device when it showed 100% charge, put it on standby (no wifi,btooth,gsm etc.) and made sure there were no applications running. I usually leave it in the standby state for 2 hours while I finish my morning exercise.
whenever I return, I see a power loss of 20%!! I was shocked to see how I could loose 20% in 2 hours ith my device on standby mode. this time, I even made sure I pressed the power button before I closed the lid, and still...no luck :-( I still lost 19%
I guess the problem is, when the charger is connected and the battery gets completely charged, it stops charging further. I guess it reaches a fully charged state within 2 hours, and the battery starts to drain all through the night...and wm5/htc don't start charging once again when the levels go down....i'll have to do a cuple more tests until I can totally confirm that this is the bug...until then, are anyone of you guys experiencing the same problems?
Another thing I forgot to mention, once again I charge my battery from 80% to 100%, and it lasts through the entire day(12 hrs) and drops to only 40% with highhh usage (bluetooth ON throughout, gsm on with 3hrs talktime, and some light gprs usage). so it really is not a problem of my battery as I see it!
Cheers,
San
Hmmm. I hate to say, but I don't see that problem. But I do have the unlocked JasJar Universal from HTC, not the qtek. If this happens with other qtecs, maybe they load a custom software that is acting up. In fact, I could leave the device on for two straight hours off a 100% charge and I don't think I'd lose 20% unless the phone was on too.
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Hmmm. I hate to say, but I don't see that problem. But I do have the unlocked JasJar Universal from HTC, not the qtek. If this happens with other qtecs, maybe they load a custom software that is acting up. In fact, I could leave the device on for two straight hours off a 100% charge and I don't think I'd lose 20% unless the phone was on too.
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have you tried charging your device for well over two hours before unplugging? (around 8-9 hours of charging for instance?)
I don't really think it has anything to do with the qtek rom/device. the qtek rom has the least ammt of customisations on it...
I still suspect that the charging process halts and it starts to drain the battery....but the os doesn't reinitiate the charging process once again....hmm
I'll have to wait till tomm before I can do another round of checking....tomm, I want to charge it....and before I unplug, I'd remove the battery and put it back and see what it indicates...I suspect that the power would have already dropped to ~80% by then...that's the only explanation I can think of at the moment....
San
Hi Dreamtheater!!!
I exactly follow you as far as charging is concerned and I hv a Jasjar....just to inform you...I started charging yesterday at 11.30 PM and just got up to see the charge..it is 100%...no power loss...
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Hi Dreamtheater!!!
I exactly follow you as far as charging is concerned and I hv a Jasjar....just to inform you...I started charging yesterday at 11.30 PM and just got up to see the charge..it is 100%...no power loss...
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it shows 100% for me too...but in just 2 hrs, it drops to 80% which is weird! from then on, it drains normally...
I still need some time to nail the exact cause for the problem...hmm!
S
Hey dreamtheater, I charge my Exec overnite everynite just like you. Usually at least 7 to 8 hrs everynite, but I have yet to experience what you mentioned here. My Exec always start fresh from 100% and by the time I get home at nite, it will drop to about 70% so no, I'm not getting the batt drain issue like you do..
I did not experience any such behaviour with my Qtek. It charged fine over night and had 100% battery when unpluged.
Are you sure your's does not wake up for some reason after you suspend it?
Dreamtheatre, I charged my XDA Exec overnight (7 hrs) and after 2 hrs with GSM/UMTS radio on the unit lost 5% battery charge.
@DT,
You need to set the device to switch off after a specified time interval. This can be done by going to start>settings>battery>advanced and check the device timeout box. I usually set it to 1 minute.
Last night i was browsing on my JJ and fell asleep while doing so, IE and notes and inbox applications were still open. When i started, the battery level was 93%, i browsed for about 10 minutes over Wifi before i fell asleep. The device shut itself off and when i woke up the battery level was 82% which is prportionate to my 10 min WiFi use and probably 1 minute standby time before it shut itself off.
Try it out, i'm sure you will stop seeing the massive battery drain
Cheers.
Another thing. Contraty to what people think, keeping the universal's battery topped off improves battery life. Prevent it from dropping all the way to say 30% or so. You will notice the difference in battery life in just about a week or so
Another source of battery drainage i've found is when i'm charging my Exec from the USB connection on my PC - If I leave my Exec connected and put my PC into standby, it will literally suck the life out of the battery over the course of a few hours!
I think some of you have got me wrong...let me restate the problem...
I charge all night
Wake up with 100% charge
Pull off the charger
Leave it on standby for ~2 hrs (no apps running, gsm, wifi, all off)
Come back, and find a ~20% drop
Back to my findings now.......
Another morning, no luck :-(
It had 100% charge...I pulled off the battery, put it back in and restarted....still showed 100%, so I guess it really was fully charged after all. This time I turned off receive incoming beams as well....left it for a couple hours, and was disappointed to see 82% when I got back :-(
However, through the day I get excellent battery life....all day's use ends up consuming roughly 30-40% charge which is excellent compared to my prev xda2 which would comparitively loose all of it by eod. I guess if I park my device in flight mode it tends to start draining quickly....now that's my only available reason or cause that I can think of....
tomm I guess I won't put the device on flight mode and leave it just On instead. This is weird because its just me having this problem :-(
San
PS: I'm using the regular ac charger itself for charging...hmm
DT, I disabled PowerSave and switched off the GSM/UMTS radio on my Exec. After about 8 hours I had lost about 30% charge. So your 20% does seem high. It could just be the battery as loss of charge is not linear. Why not let it drop to say 60% and then do your test again. By the way there spare batteries seem to be available now for the Universal.
So I have the neon400 from bell, have gotten a battery exchange once now because I figured I had a bad battery,
Battery life is roughly 4-6 hrs with minimal usage. which is terrible, With normal usage (about an hour of talk time), my battery is dead within 3 hrs.
I turn off bluetooth, as i heard it was a battery drain, unfortunatly push mail is on, and activesync for ms exchange.
Should also note that I have msn running pretty much all the time, but even with the above, i should still have a longer battery life....
Anyone can make any suggestions to improving battery life on my phone?
low life
I have a rechargable drill and flashlight set and on the instructions it states NEVER CHARGE A HOT BATTERY so I took it one step further and put the battery for my cell phone in the freezer for 10 to 15 mins before charging the only problem with that is. The battery sweats water when it comes out and you can cause water dammage to the phone and battery. I put tape on the battery to protect the contacts and wait untill it stops sweating before puting it in the phone to charge. Also, I cant say for sure with your phone but with my nokia 6275I phone it was using the battery during the night probably sending usage information to the service provider so I removed the batttery each night. After breaking in the new battery by giving it a full charge and waiting for it to be totally dead before charging (you must always do this). And cooling before charging and removal each night my battery was lasting for seven days yes SEVEN days. Mostly because no one was calling me and I was not making any other calls or using the phone in any way. Yes the phone was turned on and all other settings were off like infared and btooth. Also the phone was entering into low power mode at the end of battery life
soo good luck
paulmacdonald {newave} out
I've noticed the same thing. I don't use my phone a ton, and usually every day it's charged into the computer.
However when I unplug it after work on Fridays, by Sunday night, the battery is dead....this after being in low power mode, and not being used much.
It would be so nice if there was a replacement battery you could buy that was better...
I've done a search but can't find anything to do with my issue. I am running L26LEOV2.1_GoldEdition_213_WWE_21899_SE and have been for probably a month. Everything has been running excellent. I've got AS pushmail, weather etc all running and had no issues.
All of a sudden the battery life has disappeared. Noticed my battery at ~30% last night which was strange as I usually charge every night or 2nd night but it's never that low. After about 45mins it was at 8% just sitting idle (no data or anything running).
Did a full charge last night before going to bed and unplugged it. So 100% charged. This morning I found the phone is off, turn it on and its on 0% then shuts down again due to no power. Would only be like 6-8mths old.
I haven't made any software/ROM changes in weeks so I'm fairly sure it is hardware related. Before I go back to stock ROM and send it in for warranty work, does anyone have any suggestions for things to try beforehand? I don't want to go back to an old Nokia while I'm waiting
You could try BattLog to see where/when the rapid power drain is occurring. I've had my battery do the same thing once. I usually get through the work day with 50% left, but one day (without any use) my HD2 was dead before lunch. The problem went away as mysteriously as it arrived. So maybe just give it a few more charges and see if it works itself out. I'm curious if you've noticed any unusual ammount of heat from the battery? It could very well be that it is failing.
I'll try that program but oddly enough today its been ok, using only 10% with a bit of google maps and phone usage in about 10hr.
Ye, my battery just went from 48% to 3% in about 3 minutes. Does anyone have any idea why this is?
Same problem here. From about 43 % down to 7 % while it started to charge the battery with the original charger. Afterwards the Tab didn´t charge at all. Battery drained and got very warm.
I Called Vodafone and was told i have to send the Tab in for fixing. I hate waiting for the tablet 3 weeks.
Update: After 2 hrs. of waiting the Tab cooled down and i was able to start it again. Did a factory reset and was able to charge again with the wall mount charger.
Just wanted to bump this as my battery life is miserable and it discharges really fast in standby...
My HTC desire has been on for 52 hours, used for a lot of stuff and is at 20% battery.
The Tab charges to 100%, I unplug it at night and in the morning it has lost approx 10%, I leave it a few more hours and it't down to around 60%. This is with no use and no apps running!
I've tried killing apps or leaving them in memory and it doesn't seem to make much difference. I also use setcpu and have a profile where the CPU speed decreases when in standby to conserve battery?!
If I charge to 100% and use it constantly, I get fair life out of it maybe 4-6 hours of light use - some streaming over wifi, web surfing, kindle, sudoku etc. If I use it occasionally or heavily though, it dies very quick and if I leave it at about 40% on the evening, it's generally dead in the morning.
Why does it discharge so fast in standby??
Check to see if it continually searching for a signal. I've noticed that mine loses a lot of power constantly searching for a signal, cellular and wifi. So, I used airplane mode to conserve power. Remember that it syncs to different services that require it to periodically download data. That may be your issue.
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Thanks Chuck, I use it in airplane mode all the time and only use web over wifi (bought unconnected in the UK). Would it still be syncing for email etc? I didn't think it could turn on wifi and sync itself but only when I turn wifi on. I always turn wifi off when not in use. I had problems with widgetlocker asking for superuser permission quite often and that killed the battery quicker so I removed that until it's fixed and saw an improvement.
I'm not seeing the times that other people are though, losing at least 10% overnight and there's nothing really running.
I installed battery doctor and the times it quotes are high for different types of usage and nowhere near what I'm getting.
I'll make sure email and calendar are set to manual update, adjust brightness etc and see what happens. It seemed better when I first got it so perhaps an app is draining it? I installed system panel to monitor this but it's hard to see what is actually draining it, any recommendations anyone???
Quite disappointed at the moment, ipads barely drop 1% overnight and I'd rather not have to turn it off to conserve battery when it should maintain it in standby...
Check the task manager and see what application are running. Also you can go in settings- about device - battery use to see if a specific application is using your battery out of normal. Also , the display is generally the battery hog, you may have set it to a super high level. One last thing you may have the buggy 3d gallery app, and it will show in the battery usage.
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this is an interesting problem. its very similar to the Apple Macbook Air.
The Macbook Air was very thin - very nice looking - however it needed to depend on wifi to do most things.
the association i am trying to build here is this: the Tab needs a bluethooth headset so you dont get all your calls broad-casted over speakers and that could drain the battery a lot.
for me the battery drainage didnt seem so bad and its been on for the last 36 or so hours. the battery icon didnt look like it moved so much and i was impressed considering this thing had a gigantic battery. then i loaded up a utility that read the battery and said i had 59% so my jaw dropped. not only is the battery indicator wrong there maybe rogue processes casuing the battery drainage. and this is on 2.2 which is supposed to be somewhat battery efficient.
i dont know - frustration is what i am all about here with this thing. it seems that every time i buy a new android device i want to move to another android device. no one is getting the damn thing correctly setup.
Am at work right Now, Charged the tab overnight, just few minutes ago my battery said 60% left and now the tab is completely dead, wont turn on, I ll wait until i get home to charge, fingers crossed.
Change the battery...
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Change the battery...
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its been charging for 2 hours now and battery is not even warm to the touch plus no power yet... if charging is what you intended....
more than 3 hours of charging and counting and still no sign of life...This device is just 8 days old today from Brand new...
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Just wanted to bump this as my battery life is miserable and it discharges really fast in standby...
My HTC desire has been on for 52 hours, used for a lot of stuff and is at 20% battery.
The Tab charges to 100%, I unplug it at night and in the morning it has lost approx 10%, I leave it a few more hours and it't down to around 60%. This is with no use and no apps running!
I've tried killing apps or leaving them in memory and it doesn't seem to make much difference. I also use setcpu and have a profile where the CPU speed decreases when in standby to conserve battery?!
If I charge to 100% and use it constantly, I get fair life out of it maybe 4-6 hours of light use - some streaming over wifi, web surfing, kindle, sudoku etc. If I use it occasionally or heavily though, it dies very quick and if I leave it at about 40% on the evening, it's generally dead in the morning.
Why does it discharge so fast in standby??
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I am experiencing the same thing. Tab on flight mode and charged to 100% overnight. Unplugged at 9am, still on flight mode with no apps running, and it is 88% at 2pm.
12% drop in 5 hours with no usage whatsoever is way too much imo, comparing let say to my HD2, even not in flight mode. Wonder if they have a bad batch of battery for certain tabs........
Just wanna report back after my last post. When the percentage was dropped to 85%, I did a reboot. And guess what, now it displays 95% !!!!!!
5% drop from the morning til now in flight mode seems right and okay. Does it mean the tab is miscalculating the percent left?
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I have been following the voltage in Spare parts this morning. All settings are the same (no apps opened, same screen brightness and in flight mode. Only turn on to record voltage)
94% - 4087mV
91% - 4081mV
88% - 4075mV
85% - 4067mV
But then after the reboot
95% - 4040mV
Man, I am not sure whats going on here........
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Just wanna report back after my last post. When the percentage was dropped to 85%, I did a reboot. And guess what, now it displays 95% !!!!!!
5% drop from the morning til now in flight mode seems right and okay. Does it mean the tab is miscalculating the percent left?
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I have been following the voltage in Spare parts this morning. All settings are the same (no apps opened, same screen brightness and in flight mode. Only turn on to record voltage)
94% - 4087mV
91% - 4081mV
88% - 4075mV
85% - 4067mV
But then after the reboot
95% - 4040mV
Man, I am not sure whats going on here........
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let me jump in here again and share a similar deli-ma i had with my X10i.
while i was messing around with some custom roms i decided to stick to one that looked somewhat nice. well the funny thing is the battery indicator would always display 100% and for about 4 hours it would drop ever so slightly. then i removed the battery and put it back in -- the battery indicator showed 0% and i got a red light flashing ....
after screwing around with it for a bit i re-flashed the stock firmware from Sony-Ericsson and magically my battery meter and my battery worked fine.
so to sum up -- it maybe a software issue like the one i had on my SE X10i above?
running a flashed stock 4.0.4 ICS ROM, Rooted.
everything was running great. battery life was one of the more amazing parts of this tablet. then one day last week i had it on the charger half the day, went to go grab it, wouldn't turn on.
after lots of button pushing, swearing, about 30 minutes of it, i put it back on the charger. 10 minutes later i got a blue battery symbol charging and i held down the power button for 30 seconds and it turned on. since then have had no issues with it working, except battery life is poor. the initial time after i used it, the thing lost like a percent every couple of minutes just sitting there. it was dead within an hour and a half or so, barely touched.
i charged it fully, and reset the battery stats via battery calibrator (even though google says that is useless), then i let it drain to 0 with usage and charged it up again. now the battery life is pretty average. i lose about 10% every half hour on wifi browsing the web, screen at anywhere from 15-30% via Lux, and checking to see if anything is running nonstop in the background. so that gives me only 5 hours of total battery life just browsing the web. before i was watching HD movies 2 hours long on almost 100% brightness with some browsing and messing about in the middle and losing 20%.
i have better battery stats installed and the tab is going into deep sleep very well. also it is barely utilizing full speed, it is rarely at 1.2ghz, usually at 500mhz or 200mhz if not deep sleeping.
a couple times i had some partial wakelock issues but nothing bad. but every other day, the battery life just goes fast just doing regular stuff. nothing unusual going on in the background.
anyone else have this happen?
if i do a full reset can that help? or is this a hardware failure and time to call samsung.
The best battery life I have ever had was on Quicksilver 0.9. I got about 13,5 hours with the display on (WiFi off and airplane mode on)...
On a stock rom u should get about 10 hours with the display on.
On cyanogen-mod ROMs I am experiencing the same thing as you. The battery is dead after ~7 hours.
I would suggest to restock the tab, wipe it and just run with the apps you really need. Maybe even try Quicksilver and to be 100% sure u could even flash the ROM when the battery is at 100%.
What does the battery stats in the settings-app say?
battery settings shows nothing that could be a culprit. this thing deep sleeps like a champ.
screen off just laying around i won't even lose a percent an hour. just all of a sudden i went from being able to browse the web on wifi for 10 hours, to 5. all after that weird time the battery drained super fast.
i wiped cache and dalvik cache, same thing.
going to try reflashing with the newer ICS posted recently. UK Q2 based and see what happens.
P.S. how long until i can post more than once every 5 minutes?