Am I the only one who is holding off on GB?
I personally hate flashing. I try to do it as little as possible. I like having a smooth stable ROM, and as long as it's stable, I'm pretty happy.
Right now, I'm tempted to flash mainly because I'm having issues with my GPS getting a lock, but I know as soon as Liberty releases a GB ROM, I'll want to reflash.
It's just a pain to me to wipe, install the rom, redownload apps (I have horrid reception in my apt and WiFi has always seemed buggy), reset ringtones, notifications, app settings. It's just a pain in the behind, so I try to do it as little as possible.
I see all the Gingerbread hype, I'd just rather wait for Liberty or Apex GB.
EtherBoo said:
Am I the only one who is holding off on GB?
I personally hate flashing. I try to do it as little as possible. I like having a smooth stable ROM, and as long as it's stable, I'm pretty happy.
Right now, I'm tempted to flash mainly because I'm having issues with my GPS getting a lock, but I know as soon as Liberty releases a GB ROM, I'll want to reflash.
It's just a pain to me to wipe, install the rom, redownload apps (I have horrid reception in my apt and WiFi has always seemed buggy), reset ringtones, notifications, app settings. It's just a pain in the behind, so I try to do it as little as possible.
I see all the Gingerbread hype, I'd just rather wait for Liberty or Apex GB.
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I'm polar opposite. I like new things and challenges.
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I'm polar opposite. I like new things and challenges.
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I agree. My DX just came today. Couldn't beat the price. As soon as i get off work I'm rooting that sucker! Putting GB on asap. Love tinkering.
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I also have been waiting but this is because I have bricked my phone beyond repair once and gotten to the point where all I could do is sbf twice. And if you haven't done it, SBF'ing is a pain in the ass. So I like to make sure that things are going to work before I try it
You could always use titanium backup for your app settings, also you won't have to redownload your apps each time. I jumped right to gingerbread as soon as I could, and I'm loving it. I've never had a problem with flashing roms. Really not that big of a deal to me.
If you want to hold out, that's on you, but believe me, it's well worth the upgrade. MotoBlur on gingerbread is really quite bearable, and it's growing on me.
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See now, I didn't know that Titanium backed up apps...I'll have to read up on it. I too haven't flashed because I hate redoing my setup. I like the idea of a couple of GB features though (like the sliding text editor ) so its been tempting.
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Yeah, Titanium backs up apps, but more importantly (or just as importantly, I suppose), it backs up application data too, so then you have settings maintained across roms. It saves everything to your SD card so you'll always have it. Also, if you like to save text messages, search SMS Backup & Restore in the market. It's free and very useful.
In my opinion, using Titanium free becomes tedious, and it's well worth the money for the pro version.
I've been using the new Gingerbread rom, extremly stable and fast. I can't imagine the speed with out the bloat ware.
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No need to hold back we got rootz baby!
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I am waiting. No real hurry to flash anything. I've tried Liberty, Apex, etc...I like the stock rom with root and Launcher Pro ..I obtain the best battery life using it and controlling the cpu/battery/voltage the way I want.
When GB OTA comes out I will update it. Not sure how my phone can get any faster...everything opens and moves instantly now..especially with Launcher Pro.
Bone stock with 2.2 I was hitting 1450 with Quadrant benchmark, 2.3 stock I am hitting 1750. Nice!
Messaging widget is cool. Some other nice stuff also.
IM waiting for more work to be done to it.
The only thing I backup is Angry Birds Scores... 3 stars on all levels and all golden eggs !
I don't really need to save settings otherwise, other than ringtones. I just hate reconfiguring it.
I guess I just don't have a whole lot of stuff to tinker with things like I used to. I might wait for the OTA as well just to make sure I don't have any issues like others did when they used the leaked SBF.
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IM waiting for more work to be done to it.
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What work?
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What work?
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What, you don't think any developers are gonna play with it?
After reading of all the "issues" with GB (rooted and non) on various sites, I'm thinking I'll just wait for DS 4.3 or even DS GB! I'm currently using Rubix Focused but that's mainly because the email app in Rubix works with my Hotmail account and the dialer actually knows how to enter my VM password after it connects. I really like DS and miss it but I've grown spoiled not having to read my Hotmail messages twice. I'm toying with the idea of replacing the email.apk in DS with the one in Rubix but being fairly new with the Android stuff, I don't know what that entails and how bad I could mess things up (though I guess I could SBF and reinstall (and yes, I do have several backups)). All the stuff I'm reading makes me think that GB is not quite ready for prime time, but again that's my exceedingly humble opinion.
I have seen on numerous forums all the " how do I fix" questions. I will wait. I will flash when the dust settles. Liberty 1.5 is really smooth right now. Just my 2cents.
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I am just glad that GB is out. I will wait for the over the air, and then for it to get rooted.
Untill then, rubix focused 2.0.1 kicks butt. I don't mind flashing, but I remember when froyo dropped and everyone was sbf'n and having problems etc.
patience, when there is a Rubix like Gingerbread rom, my X will be complete
Titatnium won't restore a bunch of stuff on GB.
Don't rely on it to do your restore. Almost every application had to be re-downloaded from the Marketplace.
Lost all my game settings.. 8-(
Also if you like NFS, it doesn't work.
Also OliveTree Bible reader doesn't either.
Home switcher is broken, if you like to run multiple Launchers.
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Titatnium won't restore a bunch of stuff on GB.
Don't rely on it to do your restore. Almost every application had to be re-downloaded from the Marketplace.
Lost all my game settings.. 8-(
Also if you like NFS, it doesn't work.
Also OliveTree Bible reader doesn't either.
Home switcher is broken, if you like to run multiple Launchers.
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Titanium won't restore some system data because the version increase. Otherwise, it restored all of the applications that I had backed up.
If you like to run multiple launchers, use Home Smack. Seems to still function well in GB.
This GB leak isn't quite ready for prime-time, but is very good. Noticeable performance increase, and I was already having a good time with Fission rom. I can't wait to see how fast it is when developers kill the blur bloat.
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Dunno how long it's been out for, just giving us non-senseUI (the only real way to use a Hero ) users a heads up that it's available.
Edit: oh yea, and for the sense users that don't check often..
If you update and it gives you ****ty (my bad), worse service or whatever go HERE and look at either the OP or the 2nd post for links to download older PRL versions.
Must be relatively new. Wiped back to factory and rerooted on Wednesday. Did all the updates 3 times to be sure and mine is still at 60671.
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Must be relatively new. Wiped back to factory and rerooted on Wednesday. Did all the updates 3 times to be sure and mine is still at 60671.
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did you really "reroot", cuz going to a sense rom should not cause root loss i keep a nand of sense (nfx's rom) and just restore it, update, fastboot to recovery, restore CM and I'm good to go...
to the OP: have you noticed "****tier service"? or any difference really, usually prl does nothing noticable for me.... let me know
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to the OP: have you noticed "****tier service"? or any difference really, usually prl does nothing noticable for me.... let me know
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Service in my calc class went from 105db(basically none) - 100db. otherwise it's all relatively the same. Maybe 5db more in spots.. but nothing worse nor a drastic increase
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Service in my calc class went from 105db(basically none) - 100db. otherwise it's all relatively the same. Maybe 5db more in spots.. but nothing worse nor a drastic increase
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thanks for that, no need to do the 20 minute process for me then
The comment about nonsense being theonly way to use ahero isn't true anymore. The new Sprint ruu that nfx modded is better than aosop. Cm and all the rest. I've tried them all. Runs faster.no fc. Better batterylife. And has all the sense goodies. No lag at all.
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The comment about nonsense being theonly way to use ahero isn't true anymore. The new Sprint ruu that nfx modded is better than aosop. Cm and all the rest. I've tried them all. Runs faster.no fc. Better batterylife. And has all the sense goodies. No lag at all.
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Mine runs plenty fast, no lag, no fc's ever. I'm running a custom compiled CM6.1 rom. Battery lasts longer than I need. More internal space as compared to sense for installing apps. LauncherPro's widgets look nicer and run smoother imo, I can set it to have only 2 homescreens without the extra bulk UI on the phone. Native a2sd. Slicker stock keyboard.
CM addons/settings are a plus too. Notification power control widget, lockscreen controls, UI color edits, etc.
umad?
But to be serious and all that; I'm partial to aosp mainly because I can compile it relatively easily and the android SDK is aosp. So it's practically all I've used for the past 8 (i think) months.
As you said - it's not particularly true anymore since there are senseUI roms that run extremely smooth and quick. It usually comes down to what exactly a person is looking for in a rom.
I still use lp over sense with the new ruu. But I ran cm and aosop for about a year. And I never went more than an hour without some kind of problem. That's why I was so happy that the new Sprint ruu runs so great. It even has aps2sd. And launcherpro adds some extras that you get from froyo. I honestly can't tell the difference. Not to mention my iheartradio would not work on cm or aosop. I'm so happy to have rovers morning glory back. I'm not mad. Lol. Just letting you know that there is a better Rom out there for heros than the cm6.
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Today I flashed my 1st ROM (MYN's Warm 2.2) very exciting and exhilirating. I also downloaded HTC Kernel #17. I used Unrevoked 3 to get superuser and used My Backup Pro to backup. I used this guys instructions http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvWcIBcZvxw
Everything seem to go fine. I did what he said and wiped Dalvik and Cache after I installed Myn's ROM. Will that automatically install the HTC Kernel #17 after a reboot or do I have to manually do that like I installed the ROM in Recovery. Also what does the Kernel do? I follow you guys alot on XDA and you guys are VERY HELPFUL. Thanks for any help
Also, what are some other cool ROM's. I can see this becoming an addiction
Myn's ROM comes with the HTC #17 kernel already, so you don't have to flash it. If you'd like to install a kernel though, it would be flashed the same way as the ROM.
The kernel is the primary system components of the OS.
Thanks for your quick reply. After I installed Myn's ROM I wiped Cache and Dalvik again, will this hurt me and will I need to install MYN's ROM again. Everything seems to be working fine.
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Thanks for your quick reply. After I installed Myn's ROM I wiped Cache and Dalvik again, will this hurt me and will I need to install MYN's ROM again. Everything seems to be working fine.
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Everything is fine. The Dalvik cache is built upon first boot of a new system. You wipe it after installing a new rom to remove the remnants from the old one. You can wipe the dalvik as much as you want honestly, it's just going to make your next reboot take longer because of having to build the dalvik up again
Cool. Thanks. This whole flashing ROM's is pretty darn cool.
Welcome to the club!
Myn is a very popular ROM for good reason. Another popular ROM is CyanogenMod 6.1. It is missing 4G and HDMI at the moment, but the team is working on getting those included. A lot of people swear by it!
I have heard about CyanogenMod 6.1, but keep reading good things about MYN's Warm 2.2. So far so good
No need to change if you are happy with what ya' got!
I know a dude who has the Fresh ROM and when he turns his EVO to landscape and if he is ion Apps, they will turn landscape as well. That's really nice
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Addicting indeed!!!
I just flashed my first last week, I think I flashed my 4th ROM this past w/e but I wound up going back to the 2nd one. I've tried the following ROM's if you're interested??:
- MIUI (12.3) Awesome ROM, imho, but it was somewhat buggy still related to MMS, receiving voicemails and 4G no worky. It DOES have some really cool features built into it that most other ROM's you'd have to download the app for it's features.
- Evo NonSense (3.3) I really like this ROM too, somewhat similar to the stock but has a cooler look and like the way it navigates via ADW.
- Myn (RLS4) I liked this ROM but, honestly, was a little let down by it's simple layout, I think the hype I've been reading about Myn ROM's got me a little over anxious........lol.
- CyanogenMod (6.1) I think I had this one up and running the shortest, it didnt really do much for me but I will admit that I think I was in too grumpy of a mood possibly so I might try it again. The biggest reason for it's short lived existence is the lack of 4G, like a few others above.
I wound up going back to Evo NonSense just cuz I like the way it navigates around, the slide lock screen and overall look/appeal of it. I'm about to upload it's latest version.....
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Everything is fine. The Dalvik cache is built upon first boot of a new system.
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Man, thanks for that explanation, I was unaware of it's importance since I didnt know what it really did.
Not to raid the O/P thread but I think the answer might benefit him as well. One thing that I've noticed jumping around different ROM's is that I lose important information cached in my Apps. Is there anyway to recover that information from the back up and reinstall on a freshly installed ROM?
For an ex. I use PasswordSafe Lite to store all my important pw's and account info......I just noticed when I sync'ed up to AppBrain the information is gonzo.......is there anyway to avoid this from happening or backing it up or actually getting into a backed up copy to copy n paste that data in???
TIA!
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I know a dude who has the Fresh ROM and when he turns his EVO to landscape and if he is ion Apps, they will turn landscape as well. That's really nice
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that's pretty normal. I don't think the early Sprint roms did that, but I think the later ones do. Also pretty much any other launcher you install will do the same thing.
I keep hearing about launchers (like launcher pro). What do they do and do you install them like a ROM? What is a good Launcher?
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I keep hearing about launchers (like launcher pro). What do they do and do you install them like a ROM?
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They allow you to use a different launcher other than sense, which means you can customize it to your hearts content also you can do landscape mode which is what you are after. Launcher pro and adw are the most popular I prefer launcher pro but try them both out for yourself also they are both found in the android market which means you dont have to flash them like roms or kernels GL man if you need anymore help pm me bro
Thanks bro. I just dl'ed Launcher Pro. Will try it out. I do LOVE that loop scrolling. That's really cool
Edit: Quick question. One of the main things I like about HTC Sense is the Flip Clock with My Location and Temp. I don't see a Clock Widget for Launcher Pro. Is there a clock like this for launcher pro? thx
You want fancy widget my friend. Sense style clicks for launcher pro. You can get it in the market.
Or even better go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853832 there and get a cool themed one from the third post care of stoney 666!
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Addicting indeed!!!
I just flashed my first last week, I think I flashed my 4th ROM this past w/e but I wound up going back to the 2nd one. I've tried the following ROM's if you're interested??:
- MIUI (12.3) Awesome ROM, imho, but it was somewhat buggy still related to MMS, receiving voicemails and 4G no worky. It DOES have some really cool features built into it that most other ROM's you'd have to download the app for it's features.
- Evo NonSense (3.3) I really like this ROM too, somewhat similar to the stock but has a cooler look and like the way it navigates via ADW.
- Myn (RLS4) I liked this ROM but, honestly, was a little let down by it's simple layout, I think the hype I've been reading about Myn ROM's got me a little over anxious........lol.
- CyanogenMod (6.1) I think I had this one up and running the shortest, it didnt really do much for me but I will admit that I think I was in too grumpy of a mood possibly so I might try it again. The biggest reason for it's short lived existence is the lack of 4G, like a few others above.
I wound up going back to Evo NonSense just cuz I like the way it navigates around, the slide lock screen and overall look/appeal of it. I'm about to upload it's latest version.....
Man, thanks for that explanation, I was unaware of it's importance since I didnt know what it really did.
Not to raid the O/P thread but I think the answer might benefit him as well. One thing that I've noticed jumping around different ROM's is that I lose important information cached in my Apps. Is there anyway to recover that information from the back up and reinstall on a freshly installed ROM?
For an ex. I use PasswordSafe Lite to store all my important pw's and account info......I just noticed when I sync'ed up to AppBrain the information is gonzo.......is there anyway to avoid this from happening or backing it up or actually getting into a backed up copy to copy n paste that data in???
TIA!
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Titanium backup will backup all apps eith data so you can transition inbetween roms with little to no setup.
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You want fancy widget my friend. Sense style clicks for launcher pro. You can get it in the market.
Or even better go http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853832 there and get a cool themed one from the third post care of stoney 666!
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Thanks bro. Appreciate the help. I will check it out now
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Titanium backup will backup all apps eith data so you can transition inbetween roms with little to no setup.
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Thanks a lot!
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I used My Backup Pro and it backs up Apps and Data as well. It will backup to your SD Card OR their Servers
This ROM is eating battery quickly I have the 3500mah battery and as soon as I take it off of AC Charge it drops 5% in a matter of a couple of minutes and drops 10% in about 10 minutes. On stock it would take about an hour to drop 10% (this is all without doing anything). I am doing the same as before, nothing has changed other than I put on this ROM. Anyone have any suggestions?
Hey guys im coming over from the captivate and they have some nice roms on there. I was wondering what the best rom for Droid X is? im Not looking for total speed im looking for usability and functions. also Is there a tutorial on how to do it? i remember using Clockwork on Captivate
First your gonna need the droid x bootstrap which you can get from the market to load a rom. Are you rooted? As for a rom I've been running gummyjar and I am very happy.
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Yes i am rooted and what does gummyjar offer differently because i actually like the stock but i do get addicted to change
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Yes i am rooted and what does gummyjar offer differently because i actually like the stock but i do get addicted to change
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apex 1.3.1 offers the best of both worlds ,,,it has just enough of the blur components while taking out the useless stuff...its fast and very stable and i highly reccomend it
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First your gonna need the droid x bootstrap which you can get from the market to load a rom. Are you rooted? As for a rom I've been running gummyjar and I am very happy.
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I like gummyjar right now too, but if you like stock, load up apex. I was using apex before and it is very good.
I like the aosp feel of gummyjar better personally because I used to use a nexus one with cm. Anyway, I don't think you can go wrong with apex or gummyjar.
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+1 for apex if you want a highly stable and easy install. I just switched from the stock rom to apex and could not be happier. Talk about fast!
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+1 Gummy Jar
I just installed Gummy Jar and it's very fast. Highly recommended
This doesnt really help haha some say gummy others say apex. anyone have experience with both? ill read up on both of them now and decide.
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This doesnt really help haha some say gummy others say apex. anyone have experience with both? ill read up on both of them now and decide.
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Go Fission!! Haha
Try apex for a day, backup, try gummy for a day... go from there
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do either of these build maintain the voice control that is stock in the droid x? I recently switched to the droid x from the droid and one of the things I most love is the voice control over bluetooth works and is very good. This is the one feature I'm most not wanting to loose.
Also I'm having a bit of a problem. I rooted my phone. I installed rommanager and loaded clockwork. Then I tried to backup my rom but the phone just reboots. I went into rommanager and tried to reboot into recovery and again it just reboots.
Is this a known issue? I have not dug around too much on it. How do you reboot manually into recovery on the droid x.
thanks
I am a long time phone flasher, and the ROM that I have had on each phone in the past has just been flatout horrible. So in anticipation for receiving my new DroidX phone in the mail, I started amassing tools and rom file downloads, and bookmarking how-to pages (since every phone flash process is different)...then I got the actual phone I realized that the stock ROM is amazing. Of course, I am coming from a VX6900 that ran Donut via NAND, but I still do not see how the stock ROM could be any faster.
I use Advanced Task Killer, that automatically kills apps when the screen backlight goes out and at any given time when I turn on the phone, I always have 200MB or higher in free memory. I guess I need to know if anyone else has run the stock ROM with Advanced Task Killer, and would still describe it as "slow". I would not describe this as slow...I am literally never waiting on the phone to do something, it keeps up with everything I do, and I have installed about 30 apps/games, I swipe back and forth between apps a lot and use the back/home button quite a bit without closing things. So while I REALLY want to flash, I cannot find a good reason to do it (which is actually a first for me since owning a flash-able phone).
If anyone can weigh in I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
fission or gummyjar. period.
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I am a long time phone flasher, and the ROM that I have had on each phone in the past has just been flatout horrible. So in anticipation for receiving my new DroidX phone in the mail, I started amassing tools and rom file downloads, and bookmarking how-to pages (since every phone flash process is different)...then I got the actual phone I realized that the stock ROM is amazing. Of course, I am coming from a VX6900 that ran Donut via NAND, but I still do not see how the stock ROM could be any faster.
I use Advanced Task Killer, that automatically kills apps when the screen backlight goes out and at any given time when I turn on the phone, I always have 200MB or higher in free memory. I guess I need to know if anyone else has run the stock ROM with Advanced Task Killer, and would still describe it as "slow". I would not describe this as slow...I am literally never waiting on the phone to do something, it keeps up with everything I do, and I have installed about 30 apps/games, I swipe back and forth between apps a lot and use the back/home button quite a bit without closing things. So while I REALLY want to flash, I cannot find a good reason to do it (which is actually a first for me since owning a flash-able phone).
If anyone can weigh in I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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If you think it seems fast now, wait till you flash a custom ROM... and also, all task killer apps do is slow your phone down.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
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If you think it seems fast now, wait till you flash a custom ROM... and also, all task killer apps do is slow your phone down.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
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What a terrible article. No empirical evidence at all...just opinion and conjecture based on....what? Nothing. The user's conclusion is to reboot your phone multiple times a day or just uninstall any apps that do not come with the phone. Is he serious? Since I installed this specific task killer app (yes I tried a lot of them) I only have to reboot my phone about once a week. What a poorly written article. No research at all.
I will definitely try the custom rom route. I can always go back to stock I guess.
Fission, Apex, GummyJar are all great options. I have backups for all 3 of them.
for those who are on the fence about installing this, here's my experience. i was on myn's warm 2.2 before.
I installed it last night.
Honestly, Myn's 2.2 was very good, which was why I wasn't in a rush to replace it, but my coworker showed me cm7 on his phone at work yesterday and I had to do it as soon as I got home.
The problem w/Myn's is that I actually ran low on memory at one point, I was down to about 65mb (on the phone), so I had to delete a bunch of apps. I tried moving the apps to my SD card but that caused them to no longer work, a bug w/myn's.
I think on a fresh Myn's install, your mem is about 250mb, but cm7, your mem free is 378mb.
Another inconvenient bug w/Sense widgets was that sometimes, you have to go to that desktop in order for the Sense widget to reload its data, like the contacts widget which show no contacts until you displayed the widget and you could see it loading the contacts data. I think that was a Sense thing, cuz that happened on all my ROMs.
Tho, I do miss my pretty Sense widgets. I'm gonna be finding replacements for them and doing a write up for all the other Evo owners on XDA.
The nice thing about cm7 is that it feels slightly snappier than Myn's. Maybe that's just a placebo? But at least I didn't lose any functionality, which is why this is my first cm rom. I can't give up 4G, it's like going back to dial up.
One thing I don't like is their hotspot app, it sucks compared to the Wifi Tether app on other ROMs. You can't see who's connected and there is no access control. And it doesn't show amount of data downloaded or uploaded. Even tho Sprint's plan is unlimited, I try not to abuse it and that feature helped me monitor myself.
I should've done a speed test comparison before and after.
Well, the speedtest.net download numbers I got on CM7 were: 5mbps on the phone, 2mbps on the laptop
sad.
Another thing I don't like is the camera app. How do you turn off the shutter sound? It has more settings but in the video, there are no settings to set the resolution or codec type, how do we know which one is the hardware supported h.264? The Sense camera has ****ty focus sometimes on close objects, like it will hunt for focus, which you can see the object go into focus and but when it locks on the object, its focus is off. I haven't tested this with cm7 yet.
Cosmetically, the difference between cm7 and myn's is minor, you just lose the pretty Sense widgets. Performance wise, it feels snappier, but that's subjective. The main reason why I upgraded was more stability, even tho myn's was very stable for me. But the side benefit is that I got about 125mb extra memory and I hope SD apps will work properly this time.
Also, I hope we won't have to deal the the inconvenience of widgets losing their data randomly and having to go to that desktop so the widget can reload its data.
I also miss the Sense clock app, hope someone can figure out how to port that, it's very user friendly to set alarms and such. cm7's works fine but sense was better. sort of the same reason why i went to cm7, myn's was fine, but cm7 is better.
anyway, so there's my .02 on cm7.
UPDATE:
I went back to Myn's 2.2, ran into some hiccups on restore, details and solution here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12897128&postcount=9
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for those who are on the fence about installing this, here's my experience. i was on myn's warm 2.2 before.
I installed it last night.
Honestly, Myn's 2.2 was very good, which was why I wasn't in a rush to replace it, but my coworker showed me cm7 on his phone at work yesterday and I had to do it as soon as I got home.
The problem w/Myn's is that I actually ran low on memory at one point, I was down to about 65mb (on the phone), so I had to delete a bunch of apps. I tried moving the apps to my SD card but that caused them to no longer work, a bug w/myn's.
I think on a fresh Myn's install, your mem is about 250mb, but cm7, your mem free is 378mb.
Another inconvenient bug w/Sense widgets was that sometimes, you have to go to that desktop in order for the Sense widget to reload its data, like the contacts widget which show no contacts until you displayed the widget and you could see it loading the contacts data. I think that was a Sense thing, cuz that happened on all my ROMs.
Tho, I do miss my pretty Sense widgets. I'm gonna be finding replacements for them and doing a write up for all the other Evo owners on XDA.
The nice thing about cm7 is that it feels slightly snappier than Myn's. Maybe that's just a placebo? But at least I didn't lose any functionality, which is why this is my first cm rom. I can't give up 4G, it's like going back to dial up.
One thing I don't like is their hotspot app, it sucks compared to the Wifi Tether app on other ROMs. You can't see who's connected and there is no access control. And it doesn't show amount of data downloaded or uploaded. Even tho Sprint's plan is unlimited, I try not to abuse it and that feature helped me monitor myself.
I should've done a speed test comparison before and after.
Well, the speedtest.net download numbers I got on CM7 were: 5mbps on the phone, 2mbps on the laptop
sad.
Another thing I don't like is the camera app. How do you turn off the shutter sound? It has more settings but in the video, there are no settings to set the resolution or codec type, how do we know which one is the hardware supported h.264? The Sense camera has ****ty focus sometimes on close objects, like it will hunt for focus, which you can see the object go into focus and but when it locks on the object, its focus is off. I haven't tested this with cm7 yet.
Cosmetically, the difference between cm7 and myn's is minor, you just lose the pretty Sense widgets. Performance wise, it feels snappier, but that's subjective. The main reason why I upgraded was more stability, even tho myn's was very stable for me. But the side benefit is that I got about 125mb extra memory and I hope SD apps will work properly this time.
Also, I hope we won't have to deal the the inconvenience of widgets losing their data randomly and having to go to that desktop so the widget can reload its data.
I also miss the Sense clock app, hope someone can figure out how to port that, it's very user friendly to set alarms and such. cm7's works fine but sense was better. sort of the same reason why i went to cm7, myn's was fine, but cm7 is better.
anyway, so there's my .02 on cm7.
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That's alright. You will be back!!
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Welcome to the club! You'll get used to all the little differences quickly and wonder why you didn't switch earlier. For some cool widgets, check out the sticky called "commonly used widgets"under the android general section. You'll most likely get beautiful widgets or fancy widgets if you like the sense based ones. I agree, cyanogenmod seems snappier, simply because it is. Theres less crap running in the background like sense so things load faster and respond better. You might consider also getting adw ex or launcher pro, both will make it even more smooth. AFTER you do, you can uninstall the regular version of adw with titanium backup.
Glad you like it so far!
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My phone ran out of memory for the first time last night using cm7, using pic say pro I got a pop up telling me it could not complete the task due to low memory. It was also around 65 mb. I used my system panel to clear the memory andnit was fine after that. Maybe its just my phone, but it just seems to perform better using a sense ROM.
The main reason I like cm7 is the great battery life.
Glad you're enjoying it. I used to go back and forth the Sense, but I haven't been off AOSP for a while. Once you get used to it, it's much better.
To turn off the camera click, you need to delete the sound file with Root Explorer. It's under System>Media>Audio>UI>camera_click.ogg.
The sense roms are definitely more stable and prettier. But I just feel like I'm wading in a sea of molasses.
When I go from Sense to CM I feel like I just took a 20 pound dump. Ahhhhhhhhh.... nice.
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phatmanxxl said:
My phone ran out of memory for the first time last night using cm7, using pic say pro I got a pop up telling me it could not complete the task due to low memory. It was also around 65 mb. I used my system panel to clear the memory andnit was fine after that. Maybe its just my phone, but it just seems to perform better using a sense ROM.
The main reason I like cm7 is the great battery life.
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Actually, PicSay pro was complaining about low RAM memory, not regular storage memory--I'm assuming you were trying to export a high def picture with lots of effects. It uses up tons and tons of ram and the same would happen on sense too.
I had the same perception that somehow Sense was better and more stable. It took me a full month to realize that both CM7 and Sense are stable.
Also CM7 is way better on touch responsiveness and scrolling because Gingerbread has dramatically improved core video drivers.
As long as you like your personal phone experience then I'm happy for you. I personally don't care for CM, at least not for the Evo. I used to use it on my Windows 6.1 touch pro and had fun. But it just doesn't have enough stability and usefullness for me on the Evo.
The only AOSP rom I was able to use for extended periods of time Deck's. It was a lot more stable, and usable then CM. Only problem is it doesn't have the rabid raving fan base behind it, it's better to be first, not necessarily the best, but that was just my experience with it. I've put CM on my phone probably 7 times now, and it never lasts, I like my equipment to work and work well, when I want it to, every time. AOSP on our phone does not provide that for me.
The camera sucks, actually takes worse pictures, viewing pictures sucks too. Even using 3rd party galleries, pictures are never as clear as on a sense rom. Here is a post I made about it last Sept. and sadly nothing has changed about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8141530#post8141530
You'll find likes and dislikes, if you prefer it then good for you. But makes sure you test everything out first. I personally would recommend Dark Cocoa II by 1975Jamie. I love this one, I currently have a crapload of apps installed and am at 295mb free on my internal storage.
I've tried warm 2.2, it was really nice at first, but that rom fell apart very quickly, I think i was off it within a week. Dark cocoa rls II has kept me for a very long time.
Again, all is personal.
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You're right, I'm back! The Hotspot app in CM7 was providing very unstable internet routing and connection. I tried installing the WiFi Tether app but I think ppl have trouble getting that to work on CM-7. I posted the issue here:
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/...ions-of-wifi-tether-app-for-evo-21-wont-work/
BTW, this is the first time I had to do a Nandroid restore and I found out that:
It wouldn't restore from the phone, I had to use ADB shell on the laptop
Nandroid didn't make a nandroid.md5 file, so I had to make one myself
It was scary running into these issue on my first restore!
Anyway, I got restore to work, do this:
adb shell
cd sdcard
cd nandroid
cd [your phones special serial ID folder]
cd [the restore folder you want to restore]
from here create the MD5 file from this link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785858
enter in the restore command shown from the phone
it will ask you to confirm the directory then hit ENTER
Just FYI!
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Welcome to the club! You'll get used to all the little differences quickly and wonder why you didn't switch earlier. For some cool widgets, check out the sticky called "commonly used widgets"under the android general section. You'll most likely get beautiful widgets or fancy widgets if you like the sense based ones. I agree, cyanogenmod seems snappier, simply because it is. Theres less crap running in the background like sense so things load faster and respond better. You might consider also getting adw ex or launcher pro, both will make it even more smooth. AFTER you do, you can uninstall the regular version of adw with titanium backup.
Glad you like it so far!
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I think CM-7 comes with ADW EX? Yea, I had to go back to Myn's cuz of Wifi Tether but I can't wait to go back to CM-7!
Pao23 said:
I personally would recommend Dark Cocoa II by 1975Jamie. I love this one, I currently have a crapload of apps installed and am at 295mb free on my internal storage.
I've tried warm 2.2, it was really nice at first, but that rom fell apart very quickly, I think i was off it within a week. Dark cocoa rls II has kept me for a very long time.
Again, all is personal.
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Is that a Sense ROM? I like Sense, but I'm hoping that in Sense 2.x+ and 3.0, they fixed the problem of the widgets just randomly losing its data and having to reload it, quite annoying.
Yea that's what I ment I ran out of RAM on cm7, I didn't think it was possible since I don't have a lot running in the first place. I was adding effects to a pic I took with the front cam. So it wasn't that big of a file.
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I think CM-7 comes with ADW EX? Yea, I had to go back to Myn's cuz of Wifi Tether but I can't wait to go back to CM-7!
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Just the plain adw launcher, EX is the paid version with extra features.
Guys, just use VaelPak... it is basically a Sense CM. I'm loving Go Launcher with it. By far the best launcher I've tried between LP, ADW, Sense, and Go.
PS - All ROMs feel snappy when it's fresh... wait a couple of weeks to really assess. CM started dragging ass then.
For launchers, I recommend Go Launcher Ex. Its basically Launcher Pro without the extra widgets, and its free. Actually all the Go team apps like Go SMS Pro are rapidly becoming my favorite.
There is a final already?
I have destroyer v2 is that CM final or a diff build? hello?
The final build is CM7. No other names, not a nightly.
HOWEVER...
GPS has split personalities
4G is is a bit slow and slightly psychotic
Going to stock than back to CM7 gets the GPS to work for about the time it takes to locate you, doesn't work for navigation.
Screen lock has an uncanny ability to make the screen go blank, causing you to go batty pressing the sleep button numerous times until the screen decides to turn on.
Yes its snappy, and more efficient. But its not what I'd call stable.
I love sense sometimes but batt life is mediocre, and as well sense is a ram hog.
Im switching back to dark cocoa 2.
Hurled through the cosmos from my EVO4G to xda
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Guys, just use VaelPak... it is basically a Sense CM. I'm loving Go Launcher with it. By far the best launcher I've tried between LP, ADW, Sense, and Go.
PS - All ROMs feel snappy when it's fresh... wait a couple of weeks to really assess. CM started dragging ass then.
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I 100% agree "just use vaelpak". I came from Myns to Vaelpak about a month ago and couldnt be happier. It was starting to mess up a little bit, the kernel i was using didnt agree. So I figure I would try CM7, seeing how everyone loves it and brags about it. Well.... It's just not for me, to jumpy for my phone and I like when everything works/stable
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Yes! But I checked my thread on CM forums about the Wifi tether issue, and it looks like others have the same issue. If you never use Wifi tether then try it out, cm7 is awesome.
Well guys, I don't honestly know what to think about the new OTA. I tried it but wasn't overly impressed with it. However the speed and battery life is kinda nice. I still feel like it is lacking some features that a GB update should have had and I also feel VZW and HTC rushed this one. What do yall think?
Good Base For Future Mods
I suspect that the OTA will be a good base for future mods. I like it, but some of the features that I take for granted after using CM7 are missing.
I ran the leak for a while, I really liked it because of speed, but I can't believe they took mobile network, airplane and silent mode out of the power menu.
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I suspect that the OTA will be a good base for future mods. I like it, but some of the features that I take for granted after using CM7 are missing.
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Thats a good point. I love CM myself, been a long time fan.
I've been using the rooted leak version for about 24 hours now, moving from an EVO based mod. The new one is definitely zippier, even on scrolling, etc. I'll keep using it, but looking forward to new custom builds once the source is out and modders get their hands on this kernel.
Well, this wasn't supposed to be as big a thing compared to when FroYo was released. Expectations of that magnitude for this release were not realistic.
Differences aren't visual per se, rather just a few functional ones.
All in all, gingerbread, meh.....
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For me, it's a few things.
Feels unfinished. What I mean is some things are not what i expected. For example, i use google talk alot and with Froyo, the icon in the bar was a Sense based one. Now it's just Google Talk. This is fine, but i have to ask - was this on purpose? or a slip up?
next, I don't like NOT being able to disable ALL animations. In froyo, i could turn off the clock animations, weather ones and even the OS ones. I like that. In this one, I can't... only OS.
I have a had a few FC's with google voice setup (cleared up once configured) and Scrabble rarely notifies me of a move, but those could be app related.
battery life remains to be seen since I need to charge my phone all the way up while powered off.
it's definitely quick, but it took like 5 minutes before I started missing Synergy. Looking forward to seeing what can be done with the update.
It's a nice temporary fix for my ocd rom flashing but i think devs and most others are waiting for the final ota with some bug fixes. Isn't this lacking the new radio as well? Otherwise I am really happy it looks like they fixed the low space /data/data notification.
If we are lucky the devs will pump out some amazing roms for us that are stable and fast. Just gimme pulldown widgets, 5-row apps, recent apps in notification, and remapped rosie buttons and i'm set!
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snip Isn't this lacking the new radio as well?
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The ones posted in this forum are missing the radio but that is because the source that gave it to our devs asked that they not include the radio when they compiled and uploaded the rom. For what reason? Who knows....
I think the update should've added sense 2.1..
I miss power toggle pull downs and right rosie, but other than that, everything for me just works and works fast. If someone can add some 2.1 features, that would be nice. Been on this since it came out, zero issues, zero lag. I use my phone for business with some music, dont install more than zbout 4 apps. Everything flies. Look at it this way, if no other roms could ever have been ported over, is this a good update from when you first got your dinc? I say hell yes. The ports are great, im not baggin cause ive flashed every rom here, but this was made for our phone. Could it have had 2.1, sure, would it have worked as good, i doubt it. All ports have some issues, all be it very minor, but they also develop lag and more issues the longer you use them. Im willin to wait a week and see what happens, im sure we will see a different ota eventally, fat lady aint singin yet.
curious about battery life
I've been using miui and have been getting good battery life. I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the new ginger
All I could think about was how ridiculously fast Sense 1.0 would be on any Gingerbread ROM.
If i were a dev I would definitely be cooking up a clean, streamlined, unbelievably fast Sense 1.0 ROM for users who don't need what 2.0, 2.1 and 3.0 have to offer.
That being said, as far as the OTA goes... We'll see?
I like the speed of this OTA, too. It's very snappy. But I'm having a problem with voice input recognizing speech. Is this a problem for anyone else?
I was using bluetooth and I said open calender and it would randomly pick a number to call from my contacts.
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It's a problem with GB in general. Try using voice search while driving and you can scream in the mic until you're blue in the face. It won't recognize anything you say.
Is that just for GB Sense based roms? I have never had a problem with voice input on CM7.
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Is that just for GB Sense based roms? I have never had a problem with voice input on CM7.
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It might be a combo of things. All I know is it worked perfectly for me on Froyo.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=4399393a95831baa&hl=en
It was fun to try it out and it's fast, but I went back to Community RC5. I won't be looking back, im sure OVO will rip whatever is good and stick it in community.