Hey guys.
As you already know, official Galaxy S Gingerbread ROM released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009177
That means we've got a "Gingerbread ROM with Touchwiz UI" !
So let's encourage developers to port it to Nexus S
That would be soooo awesome, but at this point the MT3G has more development than the Nexus...they even have honeycomb.
this topic made me smile .. Before the nexus s I owned a galaxy s .. lots and lots of people there want an aosp looking rom and want to get rid of touchwiz asap .. And now I ahve a nexus S with the aosp I have been wanting for so long and see a topic requesting touch wiz
Bandis710 said:
this topic made me smile .. Before the nexus s I owned a galaxy s .. lots and lots of people there want an aosp looking rom and want to get rid of touchwiz asap .. And now I ahve a nexus S with the aosp I have been wanting for so long and see a topic requesting touch wiz
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Same here. Go figure...
However, CM7 already has all it takes to make your phone look a lot like TouchWiz. It has the statusbar widgets, and the launcher can be customized to look a great deal like it. Is it the home widgets? Cause I'm sure there must be plenty of alternatives in the Market.
Heck, CM7 + ADW is even far more customizable. I don't see a reason why anyone would need TouchWiz at this point.
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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Same here. Go figure...
However, CM7 already has all it takes to make your phone look a lot like TouchWiz. It has the statusbar widgets, and the launcher can be customized to look a great deal like it. Is it the home widgets? Cause I'm sure there must be plenty of alternatives in the Market.
Heck, CM7 + ADW is even far more customizable. I don't see a reason why anyone would need TouchWiz at this point.
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TW apps(camera, calendar, music player, video player), codecs...the launcher isn't a reason why people would want it imo.
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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I didn't, all this great hardware with crap apps to use. Doesn't even have zoom in the camera let alone 720p video recording.
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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Pretty sure it was because of gps..
Which still looks weak in the nexus
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Pretty sure it was because of gps..
Which still looks weak in the nexus
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Pretty sure it was Samsung's incompetence of releasing Android 2.2 in a timely fashion and ROMs basing off Samsung internal leaks with kernels that weren't open-sourced.
I personally don't care if someone ports TouchWiz. If they do, then great. I won't be using it but trying it out to play around with. There's a difference between requesting and something actually being done.
I would definitely like to have the choice of trying out Gingerbread TouchWiz. I've noticed that the Nexus S doesn't really have as much roms as I thought it would have. Maybe its because 2.3 is the latest software and it would defeat the purpose of putting 2.2 sense, 2.2 blur etc or its simply the fact that devs are holding out for dual core and quad core phones.
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I would definitely like to have the choice of trying out Gingerbread TouchWiz. I've noticed that the Nexus S doesn't really have as much roms as I thought it would have. Maybe its because 2.3 is the latest software and it would defeat the purpose of putting 2.2 sense, 2.2 blur etc or its simply the fact that devs are holding out for dual core and quad core phones.
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Most likely because of 2.2 and 2.3. Porting another FrameWork takes a lot of work. It's not that easy to do especially to get it working as a daily driver
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I would definitely like to have the choice of trying out Gingerbread TouchWiz. I've noticed that the Nexus S doesn't really have as much roms as I thought it would have. Maybe its because 2.3 is the latest software and it would defeat the purpose of putting 2.2 sense, 2.2 blur etc or its simply the fact that devs are holding out for dual core and quad core phones.
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Most people are obsessed with speed and latest and greatest, not what offers the most. They say TouchWiz is buggy but so is Gingerbread...obviously I could go on and on.
Why is there so much hostility with reference to Nexus S and development? Why do people consider the Nexus S inferior and not worthy of ROM development? It's a phone, people own it. If all you do is bash the phone and the community, what is your endgame? I say, the more ROMs the better, no matter what they are. And if development dies because of lack of interest, so be it, but let the natural course of the device play out.
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Pretty sure it was Samsung's incompetence of releasing Android 2.2 in a timely fashion and ROMs basing off Samsung internal leaks with kernels that weren't open-sourced.
I personally don't care if someone ports TouchWiz. If they do, then great. I won't be using it but trying it out to play around with. There's a difference between requesting and something actually being done.
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That's not the issue anymore will those roms. Not to mention the only leg nexus has up the captivate is nfc and vanilla android. I like the touchwiz icons, maybe it is because i also use an iphone 4, but those stock app icons make me want to scream
And judging from the 2.3.3 has bricked my gps thread, i am getting less and less excited about owning a nexus s once it arrives with 850mhz 3g bands. Looks like samsung still cant get the gps right..now to see if they did something to the gs2.
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That's not the issue anymore will those roms. Not to mention the only leg nexus has up the captivate is nfc and vanilla android. I like the touchwiz icons, maybe it is because i also use an iphone 4, but those stock app icons make me want to scream
And judging from the 2.3.3 has bricked my gps thread, i am getting less and less excited about owning a nexus s once it arrives with 850mhz 3g bands. Looks like samsung still cant get the gps right..now to see if they did something to the gs2.
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I don't know what you've heard but GPS works perfectly for me...
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Heck, CM7 + ADW is even far more customizable. I don't see a reason why anyone would need TouchWiz at this point.
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I couldn't find a Touchwiz like CM7 theme? Is there any?
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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Because I'm bored with default Android. I just want to try different things.
And yes Touchwiz is stupid, I hate it when I first saw that, especially lock-screen. But theme looks great.
the only think i'll be looking forward in a port from SGS to SNS are the mkv codecs and hardware play
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That's not the issue anymore will those roms. Not to mention the only leg nexus has up the captivate is nfc and vanilla android. I like the touchwiz icons, maybe it is because i also use an iphone 4, but those stock app icons make me want to scream
And judging from the 2.3.3 has bricked my gps thread, i am getting less and less excited about owning a nexus s once it arrives with 850mhz 3g bands. Looks like samsung still cant get the gps right..now to see if they did something to the gs2.
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Try the MIUI rom I think it's the rom that you're looking for.
@allgamer: in cm7 the hardware encoding actually works. 720p I smooth but no audio is being outputted. That's the only thing that needs to be fixed. Regular videos are fine.
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ll_l_x_l_ll said:
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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The only reason I hated TouchWiz was because of bloatware, and Samsung's closed source issue which hindered development. Other than that, the UI looks great to me. The blue accents are nice and is easier to view than the gloomy green of the NS. Codecs are a major plus. The launcher is acceptable. My reason for moving to the NS is for CM7 as well as Google updates. Therefore, I'm all for porting the Galaxy S Gingerbread ROM.
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Try the MIUI rom I think it's the rom that you're looking for.
@allgamer: in cm7 the hardware encoding actually works. 720p I smooth but no audio is being outputted. That's the only thing that needs to be fixed. Regular videos are fine.
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that's great news! as that's the only thing that is really missing on the Nexus S at this point
being able to play back with hardware instead of software codec
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The main reason i sold GS1 was TouchWiz, i love Samsung's hardware but not so much the software. What are the chances of getting AOSP like CM7 on GS2?, or would it be as painful as GS1? which still dosent have a stable AOSP ROM as far as i know
Peace
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The main reason i sold GS1 was TouchWiz, i love Samsung's hardware but not so much the software. What are the chances of getting AOSP like CM7 on GS2?, or would it be as painful as GS1? which still dosent have a stable AOSP ROM as far as i know
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We wont know until the device is released... CM7 was never released for the SGS so it might be touch and go;( But its my belief that if the bootloader can be unlocked or hacked then CM7 will support it... Its gonna be too much of a big phone not to support
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Buy something else. With AOSP you will lose some critical functionality of this phone. All of them in Multimedia dept. You loose fantastic code support. That's USP of sgs2.
From early previews TWUI 4 seems to be very much refined though.
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Buy something else. With AOSP you will lose some critical functionality of this phone. All of them in Multimedia dept. You loose fantastic code support. That's USP of sgs2.
From early previews TWUI 4 seems to be very much refined though.
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That's the USP for you.
For me, it's the hardware: thin, sleek, light. Dual-core. HDMI (or equivalent) +++ Unlockable boot-loader.
The hardware of the rival phones isn't as good and, quite a few manufacturers are in full lock-down mode these days.
Well, that was my thought exactly, that removing Touchwiz will remove all of the cool features and application support. To perhaps better serve your needs, it would be cooler to swap the launcher as suggested by many wise people here. This will give you a better UX while retaining the app support.
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We wont know until the device is released... CM7 was never released for the SGS so it might be touch and go;( But its my belief that if the bootloader can be unlocked or hacked then CM7 will support it... Its gonna be too much of a big phone not to support
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SGS's bootloader isnt locked, and yet there is no stable AOSP ROM around
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Buy something else. With AOSP you will lose some critical functionality of this phone. All of them in Multimedia dept. You loose fantastic code support. That's USP of sgs2.
From early previews TWUI 4 seems to be very much refined though.
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I'm still not sure if i'll buy it, as for the so called "critical functionality", i would happily give them up and get rid of the crapware that i dont need, and head for the market for added functionality.
Well, since it is Android, you are more than welcome to do so. Although, more than the critical functionality, the features you are PAYING for are being stripped away. It would be better that you find a Rom that adds these features (motion sensing, etc.) while removing the "Crapware" from the device.
Even if the SGS doesn't have a fully functional cyanogenmod, it has lot's of ROM's that remove touchwiz and crapware.
And CM7 is closer than ever from being stable on SGS, and there's actually a MIUI beta. I would say that the SGS2 will have a good dev support and we'll have a lot of choices in ROM's.
If not, there's always launchers like ADW, launcherpro, Regina...
That should be the least of your worries.
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SGS's bootloader isnt locked, and yet there is no stable AOSP ROM around
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If you read my post it doesn't say at any point that the SGS bootloader is locked I dont think the SGS was supported due to its many faults;/
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If you read my post it doesn't say at any point that the SGS bootloader is locked I dont think the SGS was supported due to its many faults;/
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Got u
Thank you and everyone else for ur input
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I'm still not sure if i'll buy it, as for the so called "critical functionality", i would happily give them up and get rid of the crapware that i dont need, and head for the market for added functionality.
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You are paying heavy premium for these features.
With AOSP, you will lose all proprietary samsung apps and features. That includes codecs, Media player post processing functionality and probably MHL functionality.
Also all Samsung drivers will be lost that mean lots of work for developers to get camera working right, bluetooth, wifi working right.
By the time ASOP which is actually usable comes out, it will be time for next generation hardware.
i was wishing for the ability to use bt joypads to play me some emus but i guess its a no go then
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You are paying heavy premium for these features.
With AOSP, you will lose all proprietary samsung apps and features. That includes codecs, Media player post processing functionality and probably MHL functionality.
Also all Samsung drivers will be lost that mean lots of work for developers to get camera working right, bluetooth, wifi working right.
By the time ASOP which is actually usable comes out, it will be time for next generation hardware.
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that's a good point
i hope samsung will release the drivers
I'd also much rather have an AOSP build, as I just don't like any of the custom overlays, never mind the included bloat- and crapware. Heck, if I had anything to say Android phones would ship without an OS and there'd be a ton (metric, of course) of distribution to choose from.
And no, we're not paying a premium for these "features", since one cannot buy the same (or even similar) hardware without them, for less.
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I'd also much rather have an AOSP build, as I just don't like any of the custom overlays, never mind the included bloat- and crapware. Heck, if I had anything to say Android phones would ship without an OS and there'd be a ton (metric, of course) of distribution to choose from.
And no, we're not paying a premium for these "features", since one cannot buy the same (or even similar) hardware without them, for less.
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But then that would require some standardization. Or every phone maker will have to issue set of drivers that users will have to bake themselves into the rom before flashing the same.
I dont think phone industry is or will be ready for that any time soon.
And you are paying for everything that comes on phone whether you like it or not. Everything costs something and it comes out of your pocket (or Samsung on some parts for superiority claims ).
AOSP usually rolls out faster for HTC phones (most of which share same DNA inside ) or sister devices of Google devices as its much easier.
Expecting AOSP for something as heavily modified as Galaxy S range quickly is unrealistic.
If your beef is against just TWUI launcher, its relatively easy to roll back to stock android launcher by just defaulting to stock android home (easy to do from Manage Applications ).
Other than the launcher (which can be changed in seconds), TouchWiz is awesome.
I used CM7 for about an hour before I sorely missed the Samsung Contacts, Camera, Calculator, Dialer and Calendar.
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Other than the launcher (which can be changed in seconds), TouchWiz is awesome.
I used CM7 for about an hour before I sorely missed the Samsung Contacts, Camera, Calculator, Dialer and Calendar.
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I have no objection to touchwiz myself, except for one thing: I get REALLY excited by the innovations Google brings with each new version of Android. Owning the nexus 1 was/is amazing from that perspective. Every new, brilliant feature, is instantly yours.
Having said that, I like some of the new things Samsung are doing with their skin. I like the gyroscope actions and the resizeable widgets.
I guess what I want is a Nexus S2
I'm going to wait until after Google I/O to see if rumours of a new Nexus surface. If not, it'll be the Galaxy S2 for me. It is a beautiful device.
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I have no objection to touchwiz myself, except for one thing: I get REALLY excited by the innovations Google brings with each new version of Android. Owning the nexus 1 was/is amazing from that perspective. Every new, brilliant feature, is instantly yours.
Having said that, I like some of the new things Samsung are doing with their skin. I like the gyroscope actions and the resizeable widgets.
I guess what I want is a Nexus S2
I'm going to wait until after Google I/O to see if rumours of a new Nexus surface. If not, it'll be the Galaxy S2 for me. It is a beautiful device.
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Even if the phone runs stock Android, you're still not guaranteed updates.
Honestly the whole update thing is a mess anyway.
Samsung provided Gingerbread for the i9000 already, so they have a good track record on updates.
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Other than the launcher (which can be changed in seconds), TouchWiz is awesome.
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Well, to each his own. But that's what I like about Android - choice. There's something for everyone.
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Even if the phone runs stock Android, you're still not guaranteed updates.
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That's true. The only thing stock does in that respect is make updates a little easier.
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Samsung provided Gingerbread for the i9000 already, so they have a good track record on updates.
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You're right about the GB update, even though it was pulled again, but their track record is still pretty bad. Let's all hope it isn't just a fluke.
Bottom line is that most phone vendors care about selling new hardware, for them, updates are a mixed blessing. Too few and nobody will buy their current phones, too many and nobody will want to buy the new model.
Samsung "TouchWiz" Android had been optimized for S5PC110 (Hummingbird), not because of UI. They optimized for their own processor and many of the optimization are not in AOSP branch.
CyanogenMOD has been optimizing own version of Android for all devices. AOSP is like bare minimum for devices like Nexus S / Nexus One / HTC Dream. We may have some of the Samsung optimized stuff due to Gingerbread. I wouldn't go back to AOSP because of the bare minimum. I would go for CyanogenMOD rather than AOSP because it has been optimized for all CPUs like Cortex A8/A9/ARM11.
First yayayyyyyyyyyy now to read the OP
Haha you beat isaint
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First yayayyyyyyyyyy now to read the OP
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LoL
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Isn't this something the general public already knows? Sounding kinda drunk there noobnl.... nevertheless, you are/were a great dev and deserve all my respect.
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Isn't this something the general public already knows? Sounding kinda drunk there noobnl.... nevertheless, you are/were a great dev and deserve all my respect.
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I am saying Samsung TouchWiz is not just a UI, it contain some of the most optimized version of android for Hummingbird Cpu.
So TW is not THAT bad after all?
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So TW is not THAT bad after all?
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Guess not. I always liked tw, but this makes it even better.
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I gotta look into this further, TW optimized mmmmmmmm...
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Samsung "TouchWiz" Android had been optimized for S5PC110 (Hummingbird), not because of UI. They optimized for their own processor and many of the optimization are not in AOSP branch.
CyanogenMOD has been optimizing own version of Android for all devices. AOSP is like bare minimum for devices like Nexus S / Nexus One / HTC Dream. We may have some of the Samsung optimized stuff due to Gingerbread. I wouldn't go back to AOSP because of the bare minimum. I would go for CyanogenMOD rather than AOSP because it has been optimized for all CPUs like Cortex A8/A9/ARM11.
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Quit the talking and start coding then, help the other devs get CM done and you may (and only then) vindicate yourself.
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Quit the talking and start coding then, help the other devs get CM done and you may (and only then) vindicate yourself.
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Hes gunna do whatever the hell he wants do and i doubt hes gunna do that
Well, I'm still using it. And I think my tastes overall pretty good.
I like trying new themes and apps, but Android is decent without much tinkering and TouchWiz may be around the right level. I have owned my Epic since last November and if I didn't like the UI I would have tried another by now.
That's not to say I never will, but Samsung didn't foul up at least. I'll be surprised if Gingerbread TouchWiz is noticeably different, although I am intrigued by v4.0 on the SGS 2, since it's been highly praised and the videos are interesting.
you all realize everyone who has an epic is using touchwiz right?? unless you are on CM, or MIUI or some other rare AOSP port instance... its more than just a launcher.. its the entire framework... and thats what noobnl is getting at..
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you all realize everyone who has an epic is using touchwiz right?? unless you are on CM, or MIUI or some other rare AOSP port instance... its more than just a launcher.. its the entire framework... and thats what noobnl is getting at..
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So a launcher you get from the Market which changes the theme of your phone is nothing but an overlay, or what? I can disable TW in app controls. I used the plain Android launcher after clearing the default and decided I liked TW enough to go back to it. At least, I tried it in Eclair. If that option is missing from Froyo or later versions, that's news to me.
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So a launcher you get from the Market which changes the theme of your phone is nothing but an overlay, or what? I can disable TW in app controls. I used the plain Android launcher after clearing the default and decided I liked TW enough to go back to it. At least, I tried it in Eclair. If that option is missing from Froyo or later versions, that's news to me.
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TWLauncher.apk is just the Touchwiz based launcher... your phone is still using the touchwiz framework and there isn't anything you can do to get rid of that short fo flashing MIUI CM7 or AOSP, which are all only semi functioning......
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He's not referring to the UI, launcher, widgets, ect. TouchWiz is Samsung's UI, just like HTC has Sense. He speaking to the optimizations Samsung makes to Android to in order to take advantage of the proprietary hardware. You'll notice this right away if you use the Nexus S. No codec support, the camera is a step down from the Epic (at least software wise) and it doesn't pull the same frames per sec the Epic can. Samsung does work some magic with the Galaxy S phones. If you don't believe that then play with a Nexus S and you'll see many of the advantages that the Epic has over the Nexus S.......
Think of it the same way you would a computer. Most run windows but OEM's tend to optimize or customize the windows installation to take advantage of the their specific hardware.
Nice post Noobnl
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TWLauncher.apk is just the Touchwiz based launcher... your phone is still using the touchwiz framework and there isn't anything you can do to get rid of that short fo flashing MIUI CM7 or AOSP, which are all only semi functioning......
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I see. So (let me understand and correct if necessary) noobnl's original post is to let us know that we basically are going to have particularly good code for TW-sourced ROMs in Android 2.3 due to better hardware optimization?
This makes sense in light of Samsung making Google's latest flagship phone, I guess.
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I see. So (let me understand and correct if necessary) noobnl's original post is to let us know that we basically are going to have particularly good code for TW-sourced ROMs in Android 2.3 due to better hardware optimization?
This makes sense in light of Samsung making Google's latest flagship phone, I guess.
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TouchWiz is a blessing and a curse. I detest the UI and that fact that it makes development more difficult. However, Sammy's version of Android is optimized for the Galaxy S hardware, drivers, ect. Although the same could probably be said about most devices. OEM's will generally optimize their versions of any OS to take advantage of their own hardware.
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I see. So (let me understand and correct if necessary) noobnl's original post is to let us know that we basically are going to have particularly good code for TW-sourced ROMs in Android 2.3 due to better hardware optimization?
This makes sense in light of Samsung making Google's latest flagship phone, I guess.
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He's basically saying that AOSP is like when you just install Windows and its using the generic Windows GPU driver and its all wonky and just scrolling a web page is glitchy, but it works with literally every video card in existence. Touchwiz is like installing the newest Nvidia or ATI driver so that the OS knows exactly what hardware you have and how to utilize it, so the experience is as optimized as it can be. Cyanogenmod is somewhere inbetween those two points.
I thought this was common knowledge.
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Hello, I'm coming from an iphone, I've had one since they came out. But I'm about to move to a galaxy s3, I know I know, it took me long enough.
My question is, I have been reading this forum for a few days and it seems that most people that have a galaxy s3 really don't like the version of ICS and touchwiz that come on the phone. Why is this? What about it is so bad? Again I have never had an android, and have only used a galaxy s3 in person a few times at the AT&T store. Just trying to learn.
Also anyone have any tips to someone moving from an iphone?
Reason is because ics stock looks might be better for some people, and some apps look and act different, coming from an iPhone I wouldn't worry much, I feel the touchwiz makes it easier for iPhone user to enjoy android, there is a lot good features on galaxy s 3 that you would enjoy, I would recommend to get an extra battery and play with the OS a lot is different, also get ics keyboard on the play store because stock keyboard sucks, once you comfortable with Android try to find out more about rooting and cyanogen 9 which is android os without any added features from any OEM good luck and enjoy the big screen
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It's all personal preference.I believe Most people don't like touchwiz because its to far away from "vanilla" android which would be the experience you get on a nexus device. I'd say try it out and if you like it stick with it, if not you can switch home launchers or go to a new rom. I've recently switch from an iPhone myself and personally don't mind touchwiz on the s3
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It's all personal preference.I believe Most people don't like touchwiz because its to far away from "vanilla" android which would be the experience you get on a nexus device. I'd say try it out and if you like it stick with it, if not you can switch home launchers or go to a new rom. I've recently switch from an iPhone myself and personally don't mind touchwiz on the s3
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any regrets coming from an iphone, anything you miss from it?
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any regrets coming from an iphone, anything you miss from it?
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Some games like tiny wings, and apps like tweetbot lol but other then that I don't remember anything big that I miss,
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Stuck with an unrooted Verizon sg3 for now and can't for the life of me figure out why the f these Asian manufacturers think we need their crappy overlay. HTC included. Vanilla ICS and GB are so smooth and pretty why ruin it? Someone tell these idiots to leave the OS alone and concentrate on the hardware. Ughhhh... Ranting and venting early morning, sorry
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How are you stuck with it?
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Stuck with an unrooted Verizon sg3 for now and can't for the life of me figure out why the f these Asian manufacturers think we need their crappy overlay. HTC included. Vanilla ICS and GB are so smooth and pretty why ruin it? Someone tell these idiots to leave the OS alone and concentrate on the hardware. Ughhhh... Ranting and venting early morning, sorry
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Manufacturers like to make their phones different, otherwise they'd all be the same phones just with different hardware, and normal consumers typically don't pay attention to hardware. So they have to advertise new features that they have in the software, like S Voice and stuff.
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Samsung, that same manufacturer, realizes this, and offers an alternative called the Nexus....
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Samsung, that same manufacturer, realizes this, and offers an alternative called the Nexus....
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samsung doesn't offer the nexus because it realizes people dont like touchwiz...
I like Touchwiz personally. So I guess they make it for people like me . I have had this the international version and both versions of the One X (all rooted) and the out of the box lte galaxy s3 has been the best for me. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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OP why didn't you get the Nexus? No one forced you to get the S3. This why Samsung offers so many models....choices.
So install apex/nova launcher and get that vanilla ics feeling
Good thing we've got AOKP on our Galaxy S3s now.
Lol.... you dont need to be stuck my friend!
Enter the world of ....Custom Launchers!
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I'm. Surprised you don't know this.
For a more clean/ aosop feel go with apex. I personally LOVE go launcher ex.
Just go to market search launcher
Themes a few good ones people really like: apex, nova , go launcher, ???
PS.....no root needed!
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I think all OEMs should give options. Vanilla or their overlay. I have an S3 but I really like Sense 4.0 from HTC. While the HOX was nice...It just was not for me over all.
But that option may be hard for OEMs to do.
I installed Apex Launcher, stacked all my apps and absolutely love it. Not having to scroll through screens is awesome.
freakboy13 said:
Lol.... you dont need to be stuck my friend!
Enter the world of ....Custom Launchers!
:thumbup:
I'm. Surprised you don't know this.
For a more clean/ aosop feel go with apex. I personally LOVE go launcher ex.
Just go to market search launcher
Themes a few good ones people really like: apex, nova , go launcher, ???
PS.....no root needed!
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I'm pretty sure what the OP is referring to can't be solved by a simple launcher since touchwiz goes deep. Nonetheless he should've known what he was getting into and should've stuck with a nexus device
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IMO it's really pathetic to complain about TW especially since it's practically Vanilla with some really good enhancements, now if it were as bad as say Sense, then I would maybe agree, now that is one hideous "skin"
I have a galaxy note with sgs3 app ports and I couldn't be more satisfied. I've had Motorola and HTC android phones and this experience is by far the best as far as overlay of OS is for me. Whatever floats your boat tho.
from my big a$$ phone
I've really been trying to figure out what's so great about vanilla ICS. Is it just the visual theme? In which case that's just a matter of preference, or is it some feature that you prefer? It seems like Touchwiz has almost all of the same features, and you can install the default apps from vanilla ICS if you prefer them.
cgardnervt said:
I think all OEMs should give options. Vanilla or their overlay. I have an S3 but I really like Sense 4.0 from HTC. While the HOX was nice...It just was not for me over all.
But that option may be hard for OEMs to do.
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I agree with you. My favorite UI is Sense 4.0. I would've gotten the One X, if Verizon had it.
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CitrixLemon said:
I've really been trying to figure out what's so great about vanilla ICS. Is it just the visual theme? In which case that's just a matter of preference, or is it some feature that you prefer? It seems like Touchwiz has almost all of the same features, and you can install the default apps from vanilla ICS if you prefer them.
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I am also wondering the same thing about Stock ICS. But I think that maybe its because its less intrusive than other UI's, and functions smoothly, just like google intended it to perform. Again I think its preference, some people like Stock and others prefer something other than stock. Personally I like all UI's but if I had to pick it would be the Sense 4.0.
Lol @ OP buying a phone that comes with a UI over AOSP android and then *****ing about the UI.
Did you not know the sgs3 had touchwiz and htc has sense? Did you try a different launcher? Was this thread really needed? Stop whining and trade it for a nexus. Then read before investing in a phone.
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ratchetjaw said:
I like Touchwiz personally. So I guess they make it for people like me . I have had this the international version and both versions of the One X (all rooted) and the out of the box lte galaxy s3 has been the best for me. Different strokes for different folks I guess.
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I think "one man's trash is another man's treasure" may be more applicable.
Sense 4 is light but touchwiz is even lighter at least the silly colored boxes around applications are gone. B
tiitle is self explanatory, just curious coming from a HTC wether (because im hell bent on buying nexus 4 due to spec for the price plus google update support) we will see any HTC Sense UI based roms?
Short answer: No. Sense is an HTC skin job, this is an LG.
Second: Why the hell would you do that?
Highly doubt it. People usually get nexus devices for the pure stock Android experience and having skins like HTC sense just ruins it. That's why we didn't see any FULL port for Galaxy nexus. Just unfinished ports that nobody used as daily driver
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel
It's possible, I remember there being a project to try and get sense on the GNex, but it would probably take a long time since there aren't many people who want it so the number of developers and testers would be small.
Here's a video of a pre beta that came out - video
No. Its horrible and worse. You will like stock.
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if you really want htc skin then get the htc one x+
After all the time I spent to make my s3 work and look like aosp on the nexus, including the on screen button with the hardware ones disabled, now that I've sold it for the nexus, it seems just mental to apply sense or whatever else interface ...to me at least
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People have been trying for a long time now to port Sense to various phones (Sense4All etc). Though there has been progress, it can't even be considered beta yet. So if getting Sense is a concern to you, don't buy the N4. Safe to say, its not gonna happen.
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if you really want htc skin then get the htc one x+
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This. One X is a much better looking phone anyway. And it may not be quite as powerful, but it's easily in the same league.
I really hope so. While stock Android is nice, it would be great to have options. Sense 4 would freaking fly on this phone.
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Short answer: No. Sense is an HTC skin job, this is an LG.
Second: Why the hell would you do that?
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What Antebios said. Don't even dream of it happening because it won't.
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What Antebios said. Don't even dream of it happening because it won't.
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There's no reason why it couldn't, if there was a few developers that really really wanted to do it, it's possible. It's just extremely unlikely.
Would love to see a port of the Sense 4+ keyboard though. IMHO, it's better than stock (even stock 4.2).
I think Sense5 would be fun to play with. Sure most Google fan-boys don't like it, but it's still nice; just needs refinement (specifically for battery use).
i would definitely flash a sense rom on the nexus... plain AOSP looks a bit dud after a while.
If you like HTC crap (I own an HTC, and personally hate them for their policies, but that's another story..) so much, go for the OX+, which is fine.
There is a lot of personal opinion based guestimation here. I thought google flagships released all the device information to the public so that it would be easy to make roms. I remember the good ol days of the nexus 1 when if you got bored of plain jane you could toss sense on it. Get bored with that toss cyan on it. Get bored with that, here is a port for a different phone, and so on. Sense has GREAT photography features but it does use up a LOT of memory. Looks are a matter of taste though. If you love clean and simple and no bells and whistles then light weight roms are where its at. Sense comes with plenty of spaces filled in though. It truly is a Skin job looking modern and sleek. That's my 2 cents I guess.
so the short and most conclusive answer is: Its possible.
No it is not possible. Sense requires HTC drivers and frameworks. Many great devs have tried over the years and they all end up mostly not working for things like data, camera and things like that.
Sense is not a skin on top of android it is a whole different version of android like a different linux distro with closed sourced files that will only run on HTC devices.
Wanna switch phones man, sense sucks and stick with what you got.. I have HTC and 95% of the time I'm on a CM10 rom
Highly doubt it'll ever happen.
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