Hi everyone !
My name's Renan and I've just bought a Nexus S. Coming from a HTC Desire, it's just marvellous !
I like development and Android and I created a ROM called Amethyst for the HTC Desire. Now I have a Nexus S, and I'd like to create a ROM for this phone because it is just very powerful !
But as the Nexus S has a stock Android version, I'd like to create a ROM with a custom and nice UI (~ like MIUI).
If you're a developer, a graphist, or someone who has ideas or is interested in this project, just send me a PM
Have a nice evening, guys
Renan.
Really looking forward to see what you come up with mate! Best luck!
I'd be interested in this - I must say I haven't tried developing for the Android yet but I have developed things for PC and have worked with Linux for many years so should be quite easy to pick up! PM me if you like.
sounds good. i can design images (create, modify, etc) pm me with details. cheers..
Welcome to Nexus S, i also love this phone and i hope you come up with something amazing. Seems that the devs start rollling in. They just yesterday or the day before released Nexus S in some of the major contries of Europe. Hope the Nexus S will come alive now
I've had ideas for my own custom ROM. So, if I have the time, I would like to help out. I will try to write up a list of all my ideas later. One of the big ones is that CM requires a custom kernel than ROMs based off stock. They leave something out, so this ROM should do things right from the start and make sure that kernels built for stock, will run. That will make it easier for users to pick their own kernel and kernel Devs would not need to do anything different to make their kernels work with it.
Cheers.
And make me your non-contributing trainee I wanna learn stuff. Just don't know where to start. I m J2EE developer, hardly have to peep outside enterprise web applications
Really glad to see ROM Dev's joining this forum - soon we can have many ROM choices like Galaxy S or Vibrant.
I'm very good with graphic designing (strictly no coding or scripting), let me know if you need my help.
I have been debating making a rom. I used to dev for my captivate, n1, and hero. I think I may start with the ns soon .
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Since you tried to make amethyst on desire a stockish rom, why don't you try to run sense on the nexus s
python08 said:
Hi everyone !
My name's Renan and I've just bought a Nexus S. Coming from a HTC Desire, it's just marvellous !
I like development and Android and I created a ROM called Amethyst for the HTC Desire. Now I have a Nexus S, and I'd like to create a ROM for this phone because it is just very powerful !
But as the Nexus S has a stock Android version, I'd like to create a ROM with a custom and nice UI (~ like MIUI).
If you're a developer, a graphist, or someone who has ideas or is interested in this project, just send me a PM
Have a nice evening, guys
Renan.
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Finally someone who has similar aims to a custom rom like me (MIUI scope) I have loads of ideas, some dev skills and some graphics too, and would love to collaborate. Ill send through a PM soon, I made some mockups ages ago for some of the ideas, so you can get an idea of where I'm coming from.
Welcome and enjoy your Nexus S too!
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Unfortunately we take a BIG hit by not being able to have SENSE roms. We have have about 1/3 less roms due to that. The Nexus One is able to get everything, we cant, and it shows. It harder for all these great DEVs to come up with something cool.
I'm surprised we haven't seen touchwiz on here yet
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Unfortunately we take a BIG hit by not being able to have SENSE roms. We have have about 1/3 less roms due to that. The Nexus One is able to get everything, we cant, and it shows. It harder for all these great DEVs to come up with something cool.
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Why can't we get everything? I've seen a sense rom on the vibrant.
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Why can't we get everything? I've seen a sense rom on the vibrant.
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drivers mainly, HTC Sense is for HTC devices and hardware. We unfortunately have a Samsung. I dunno about a Sense port for the Vibrant, Im gonna look into that.
Count me in. Hit me with a pm
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I'm surprised we haven't seen touchwiz on here yet
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The dev's that develop here either don't like TW or don't have the knowledge. Why make a TW rom when the blind fanboi's here lack the objectivity to see what is better and worse. Even CM took something from TW that they liked...doesn't necessarily make TW better but adds a nice touch. They don't get the point when you say this phone can't do a certain thing when every phone since the original Google experience phones can do it. It's like the world is playing a joke on me. I blame the trendiness that has enveloped Android these days. Back when the main phones were MT3G, G1, Hero nobody cared whether everyone liked it they just did it to show they can and because it has an advantage. You can't see an advantage objectively when your blinded with fanboiism(I just made that up..go me).
I think you are under the impression it would be simple to create a TW rom for nexus s. If so.you are sadly mistaken. If it was easy to do someone might do it but it's not. And TW sucks so bad already that taking the time and effort just to get it half working is pointless.
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Oh I'm not saying I want a tw rom ...just surprising to not see it done yet..just due to the fact of how many sense roms are made for nexus one
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this is staying in G area until we see some real work going on
it'll be moved back to DEV when a working ROM becomes available
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Hey guys.
As you already know, official Galaxy S Gingerbread ROM released.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009177
That means we've got a "Gingerbread ROM with Touchwiz UI" !
So let's encourage developers to port it to Nexus S
That would be soooo awesome, but at this point the MT3G has more development than the Nexus...they even have honeycomb.
this topic made me smile .. Before the nexus s I owned a galaxy s .. lots and lots of people there want an aosp looking rom and want to get rid of touchwiz asap .. And now I ahve a nexus S with the aosp I have been wanting for so long and see a topic requesting touch wiz
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this topic made me smile .. Before the nexus s I owned a galaxy s .. lots and lots of people there want an aosp looking rom and want to get rid of touchwiz asap .. And now I ahve a nexus S with the aosp I have been wanting for so long and see a topic requesting touch wiz
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Same here. Go figure...
However, CM7 already has all it takes to make your phone look a lot like TouchWiz. It has the statusbar widgets, and the launcher can be customized to look a great deal like it. Is it the home widgets? Cause I'm sure there must be plenty of alternatives in the Market.
Heck, CM7 + ADW is even far more customizable. I don't see a reason why anyone would need TouchWiz at this point.
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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Same here. Go figure...
However, CM7 already has all it takes to make your phone look a lot like TouchWiz. It has the statusbar widgets, and the launcher can be customized to look a great deal like it. Is it the home widgets? Cause I'm sure there must be plenty of alternatives in the Market.
Heck, CM7 + ADW is even far more customizable. I don't see a reason why anyone would need TouchWiz at this point.
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TW apps(camera, calendar, music player, video player), codecs...the launcher isn't a reason why people would want it imo.
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the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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I didn't, all this great hardware with crap apps to use. Doesn't even have zoom in the camera let alone 720p video recording.
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the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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Pretty sure it was because of gps..
Which still looks weak in the nexus
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Pretty sure it was because of gps..
Which still looks weak in the nexus
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Pretty sure it was Samsung's incompetence of releasing Android 2.2 in a timely fashion and ROMs basing off Samsung internal leaks with kernels that weren't open-sourced.
I personally don't care if someone ports TouchWiz. If they do, then great. I won't be using it but trying it out to play around with. There's a difference between requesting and something actually being done.
I would definitely like to have the choice of trying out Gingerbread TouchWiz. I've noticed that the Nexus S doesn't really have as much roms as I thought it would have. Maybe its because 2.3 is the latest software and it would defeat the purpose of putting 2.2 sense, 2.2 blur etc or its simply the fact that devs are holding out for dual core and quad core phones.
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I would definitely like to have the choice of trying out Gingerbread TouchWiz. I've noticed that the Nexus S doesn't really have as much roms as I thought it would have. Maybe its because 2.3 is the latest software and it would defeat the purpose of putting 2.2 sense, 2.2 blur etc or its simply the fact that devs are holding out for dual core and quad core phones.
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Most likely because of 2.2 and 2.3. Porting another FrameWork takes a lot of work. It's not that easy to do especially to get it working as a daily driver
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I would definitely like to have the choice of trying out Gingerbread TouchWiz. I've noticed that the Nexus S doesn't really have as much roms as I thought it would have. Maybe its because 2.3 is the latest software and it would defeat the purpose of putting 2.2 sense, 2.2 blur etc or its simply the fact that devs are holding out for dual core and quad core phones.
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Most people are obsessed with speed and latest and greatest, not what offers the most. They say TouchWiz is buggy but so is Gingerbread...obviously I could go on and on.
Why is there so much hostility with reference to Nexus S and development? Why do people consider the Nexus S inferior and not worthy of ROM development? It's a phone, people own it. If all you do is bash the phone and the community, what is your endgame? I say, the more ROMs the better, no matter what they are. And if development dies because of lack of interest, so be it, but let the natural course of the device play out.
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Pretty sure it was Samsung's incompetence of releasing Android 2.2 in a timely fashion and ROMs basing off Samsung internal leaks with kernels that weren't open-sourced.
I personally don't care if someone ports TouchWiz. If they do, then great. I won't be using it but trying it out to play around with. There's a difference between requesting and something actually being done.
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That's not the issue anymore will those roms. Not to mention the only leg nexus has up the captivate is nfc and vanilla android. I like the touchwiz icons, maybe it is because i also use an iphone 4, but those stock app icons make me want to scream
And judging from the 2.3.3 has bricked my gps thread, i am getting less and less excited about owning a nexus s once it arrives with 850mhz 3g bands. Looks like samsung still cant get the gps right..now to see if they did something to the gs2.
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That's not the issue anymore will those roms. Not to mention the only leg nexus has up the captivate is nfc and vanilla android. I like the touchwiz icons, maybe it is because i also use an iphone 4, but those stock app icons make me want to scream
And judging from the 2.3.3 has bricked my gps thread, i am getting less and less excited about owning a nexus s once it arrives with 850mhz 3g bands. Looks like samsung still cant get the gps right..now to see if they did something to the gs2.
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I don't know what you've heard but GPS works perfectly for me...
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Heck, CM7 + ADW is even far more customizable. I don't see a reason why anyone would need TouchWiz at this point.
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I couldn't find a Touchwiz like CM7 theme? Is there any?
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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Because I'm bored with default Android. I just want to try different things.
And yes Touchwiz is stupid, I hate it when I first saw that, especially lock-screen. But theme looks great.
the only think i'll be looking forward in a port from SGS to SNS are the mkv codecs and hardware play
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That's not the issue anymore will those roms. Not to mention the only leg nexus has up the captivate is nfc and vanilla android. I like the touchwiz icons, maybe it is because i also use an iphone 4, but those stock app icons make me want to scream
And judging from the 2.3.3 has bricked my gps thread, i am getting less and less excited about owning a nexus s once it arrives with 850mhz 3g bands. Looks like samsung still cant get the gps right..now to see if they did something to the gs2.
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Try the MIUI rom I think it's the rom that you're looking for.
@allgamer: in cm7 the hardware encoding actually works. 720p I smooth but no audio is being outputted. That's the only thing that needs to be fixed. Regular videos are fine.
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the reason people sold their Galaxy S to nexus S is because of the stupid touch wiz. and you want people to bring it ? i hate you from my heart
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The only reason I hated TouchWiz was because of bloatware, and Samsung's closed source issue which hindered development. Other than that, the UI looks great to me. The blue accents are nice and is easier to view than the gloomy green of the NS. Codecs are a major plus. The launcher is acceptable. My reason for moving to the NS is for CM7 as well as Google updates. Therefore, I'm all for porting the Galaxy S Gingerbread ROM.
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Try the MIUI rom I think it's the rom that you're looking for.
@allgamer: in cm7 the hardware encoding actually works. 720p I smooth but no audio is being outputted. That's the only thing that needs to be fixed. Regular videos are fine.
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that's great news! as that's the only thing that is really missing on the Nexus S at this point
being able to play back with hardware instead of software codec
Why dont all the devs team up, all kernel devs team up and make one great rom with all the features? And all kernel devs make one big performance and battery saving kernel?
That would be awesome!
Comment if you agree..
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DISAGREE!!
Please delete thread
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Come on.. whats wrong?
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Its like getting married...
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Its like getting married...
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Exactly! Sounds fine at first, but ultimately a bad idea.
Plus, Android is about choice. There's a reason for the so-called "fragmentation".
Can we comment if we disagree? Competition is what pushes people to do things they normally wouldn't do. Competition is what drives people to improve.
Besides, since this is all open source, are they already kind of working together?
I could never imagine all the devs working together on a SINGLE rom or kernel. I just don't think it would work.
Besides you already have teams such as cm, asop, kangs, oxygen and acs. These teams are already pretty large as it is. If you were to put them all together nothing would get done as they would eventually just fracture and separate.
Nice thought but a bit unrealistic.
Edit: We all like different things about each of the different roms and kernels. What you may love, I may hate. This is the beauty of Android and open source. There are many flavors and choices. If there was one huge mother ship all making the same thing it would be Apple.
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Why dont all the devs team up, all kernel devs team up and make one great rom with all the features? And all kernel devs make one big performance and battery saving kernel?
That would be awesome!
Comment if you agree..
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Features and performance do not go hand in hand. One or the other.
CM does not aim for one or the other, just a balance of the two.
Other ROM makers have different views.
Apple has one view.
Disagree
Sheesh, I must be the only one who agrees. Seeing a community uniting to collaborate on an OS together.. A huge number of people sharing ideas and knowledge while inspiring others to improve their own development skills. Making ideas come to life when they are just out of your knowledge of java and c because a more experienced developer lends a hand where your lacking. You mean embracing the spirit of Linux and making people like Linus proud . Nah we rather do kangs and dream of what little code we can layer on top for exclusivity....smh....
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I agree and disagree..
Most of the time, I like to work alone. I'm super independent and have a way I like to do everything. When I work with people I become less interested and don't work as hard... but...
I don't know everything about android, and there are tons of devs that know far more than I ever will, so in a situation where I'm stuck on something, working with multiple devs would be the best way to go.
It's nice having variety, although it would be nice to see a huge collaboration on an insane 2.0ghz kernel accompanying the fastest-sexiest-kangiest rom ever.
We already have a rom that has all the features crammed into one package. So really the collaboration has inadvertently already been compiled.
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I think its a good idea. However it is not at all easy and would not be practical. It will be very difficult to manage as well. That's why we have cyanogenmod and aokp. As well as miui.
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I agree! If they just could make one single build that is free from bugs, fast and stable! Don't have to be more then one ;-) Beacuse they do a super rom/kernel doesn't mean that they should stop develope their own rom/kernel
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Well we all know who the left wingers are now. Competition drives excellence end of story. If they wanna collaborate then whatever but I'm telling you one rom/kernel combo would be a disaster.
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fusion is drunk don't mind him . lol
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Sheesh, I must be the only one who agrees. Seeing a community uniting to collaborate on an OS together.. A huge number of people sharing ideas and knowledge while inspiring others to improve their own development skills. Making ideas come to life when they are just out of your knowledge of java and c because a more experienced developer lends a hand where your lacking. You mean embracing the spirit of Linux and making people like Linus proud . Nah we rather do kangs and dream of what little code we can layer on top for exclusivity....smh....
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But doesn't this already happen? Don't many of you already get together when you get in a bind? I was under the impression that most of you do help each other out.
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Same here
Disagree too. I prefer many choices.many choices means so much enjoyment.
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Disagree too. I prefer many choices.many choices means so much enjoyment.
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Most definitely the community shouldn't only focus on one ROM if I came off sounding like that, but a side project pushing the OS to the limits
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tiitle is self explanatory, just curious coming from a HTC wether (because im hell bent on buying nexus 4 due to spec for the price plus google update support) we will see any HTC Sense UI based roms?
Short answer: No. Sense is an HTC skin job, this is an LG.
Second: Why the hell would you do that?
Highly doubt it. People usually get nexus devices for the pure stock Android experience and having skins like HTC sense just ruins it. That's why we didn't see any FULL port for Galaxy nexus. Just unfinished ports that nobody used as daily driver
Swyped on my Galaxy Nexus running AOKP with Franco Kernel
It's possible, I remember there being a project to try and get sense on the GNex, but it would probably take a long time since there aren't many people who want it so the number of developers and testers would be small.
Here's a video of a pre beta that came out - video
No. Its horrible and worse. You will like stock.
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if you really want htc skin then get the htc one x+
After all the time I spent to make my s3 work and look like aosp on the nexus, including the on screen button with the hardware ones disabled, now that I've sold it for the nexus, it seems just mental to apply sense or whatever else interface ...to me at least
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People have been trying for a long time now to port Sense to various phones (Sense4All etc). Though there has been progress, it can't even be considered beta yet. So if getting Sense is a concern to you, don't buy the N4. Safe to say, its not gonna happen.
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if you really want htc skin then get the htc one x+
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This. One X is a much better looking phone anyway. And it may not be quite as powerful, but it's easily in the same league.
I really hope so. While stock Android is nice, it would be great to have options. Sense 4 would freaking fly on this phone.
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Short answer: No. Sense is an HTC skin job, this is an LG.
Second: Why the hell would you do that?
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What Antebios said. Don't even dream of it happening because it won't.
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What Antebios said. Don't even dream of it happening because it won't.
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There's no reason why it couldn't, if there was a few developers that really really wanted to do it, it's possible. It's just extremely unlikely.
Would love to see a port of the Sense 4+ keyboard though. IMHO, it's better than stock (even stock 4.2).
I think Sense5 would be fun to play with. Sure most Google fan-boys don't like it, but it's still nice; just needs refinement (specifically for battery use).
i would definitely flash a sense rom on the nexus... plain AOSP looks a bit dud after a while.
If you like HTC crap (I own an HTC, and personally hate them for their policies, but that's another story..) so much, go for the OX+, which is fine.
There is a lot of personal opinion based guestimation here. I thought google flagships released all the device information to the public so that it would be easy to make roms. I remember the good ol days of the nexus 1 when if you got bored of plain jane you could toss sense on it. Get bored with that toss cyan on it. Get bored with that, here is a port for a different phone, and so on. Sense has GREAT photography features but it does use up a LOT of memory. Looks are a matter of taste though. If you love clean and simple and no bells and whistles then light weight roms are where its at. Sense comes with plenty of spaces filled in though. It truly is a Skin job looking modern and sleek. That's my 2 cents I guess.
so the short and most conclusive answer is: Its possible.
No it is not possible. Sense requires HTC drivers and frameworks. Many great devs have tried over the years and they all end up mostly not working for things like data, camera and things like that.
Sense is not a skin on top of android it is a whole different version of android like a different linux distro with closed sourced files that will only run on HTC devices.
Wanna switch phones man, sense sucks and stick with what you got.. I have HTC and 95% of the time I'm on a CM10 rom
Highly doubt it'll ever happen.
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Is it just me, or is there a lack of diversity when it comes to ROMs for the n4? I have been using the nexus lineup since the nexus s, and it seemed back then, and with the galaxy nexus, there was more variety. As in sense ROMs or xperia ROMs, miui etc... With the n4 its miui or aosp variants like AOKP or cm10.
I was a flashoholic for sure back then but now it rarely seems like its worth the effort to try new ROMs out. I typically find one that is stable, and I stick to that for weeks or perhaps a couple of months. There is the odd new feature added to these new ROMs that's interesting, but nothing ever drasticly different.
Don't get me wrong, I love the ability to dump some lines of code in and have an LTE device, or benchmark near what the new s4 puts down, I do like the phone, but why no ports?? Even now there are 4.2.2 xperia ROMs on devices out there, why no n4 love? I have been waiting forever for an alternative lock screen (bb10 or lg's) that I don't think will ever come. Just find it weird.
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many of the developers love the pure android side of it in the first place, thats why they are here. and ports just arent the same, and dont run as well as a native rom. if you want a port, see what you could do to build one, id try it if you put one out
I have thought about trying to port. I don't believe I have the skills to get this done, nor the time to gain said skills. I just wonder, is this perhaps due to the fact that this is an lg device, and the others were Samsung? I would think not, but I don't know enough to say for sure.
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I have thought about trying to port. I don't believe I have the skills to get this done, nor the time to gain said skills. I just wonder, is this perhaps due to the fact that this is an lg device, and the others were Samsung? I would think not, but I don't know enough to say for sure.
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that does make things harder. writing new drivers probably wouldnt be worth it, among other things. that is, unless the developer really wanted that port
When I was on my GNex, I don't remember any Sense/TouchWiz/Blur ROMs, at least not functional.
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You bought a nexus 4, but didn't want AOSP?
If you want a different lock screen, there's apps for that.
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None of the ports would ever get into a useable state or be a fully functional daily driver.
It's easier to have a samsung/htc/whatever and go cyanogenmod when you want the closest-to-stock feel, and you'd also have variations of stock roms (sense, tw..).
I don't think the situation was different in the galaxy nexus forum than it is now here, but i do remember that every once in a while threads about how "all roms are the same" would pop up.
And a last point, i don't get this flashing habbit. There's nothing wrong in sticking to 1 rom for a long time, it only means it's stable and it has all the features you actually use/need. *It's a phone, not a toy, if you're bored during your days maybe it's time to find a hobby or maybe start dating or smth. , or just get another non nexus phone and use it to satisfy your flashoholic needs with buggy ports.
*not being rude..
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No Diversity?
I believe that Diversity starts here.
PIE? Halo? Just a couple off the top of my head.
I would rather have stable and new innovations rather then buggy and every option CM can add thrown at me. Hence why I own a Nexus.
Don't forget Ubuntu Phone, that's pretty far from an AOSP ROM. Most other phones besides Galaxy Nexus don't even have a usable port of this.
Nothing to see here... Just another lazy window shopping end-user with very little knowledge on how developing works trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
Human beings can never be satisfied.
(Tendency of human beings)
Exynos S4 users are crying for AOSP based ROM and here nexus 4 users are crying for some OEM based ROM.
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Human beings can never be satisfied.
(Tendency of human beings)
Exynos S4 users are crying for AOSP based ROM and here nexus 4 users are crying for some OEM based ROM.
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It happens.
On Moto forums people cry for sense ROM. On HTC forums people cry for touch wiz. On Samsung forums people cry for MotoBlur.
(This may or may not be real but when I was in the moto section before there were so many threads asking for a Sense port)
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I would love a perfectly functioning sense rom for the nexus 4 but I highly doubt that will ever happen. Then again the reason I bought this phone was not to have manufacturer and carrier restrictions like the other ones do.
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Nothing to see here... Just another lazy window shopping end-user with very little knowledge on how developing works trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
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As a former Nexus S 4G and GNex owner, I agree with him. I don't flash roms anymore because I'm bored with them. I picked up another Nexus phone because I know from experience that Nexus phones push the limits of android, and I just don't feel that about the N4. I'm very thankful for all the devs that are out there, but most of the ROMs coming out for the N4 are large group roms (PA, CM10.1, AOKP) and are not made specifically for our device. ROMs that are made specifically for our device lack diversity.
With the HTC Evo 4G I was trying every ROM out there, and when ICS was released I was on the cutting edge with it, and upgraded to the NS4G because of the way it handled ICS. I then switched all over the place looking for more speed and stability, eager to try out every new feature. Then came the GNex, with Jelly Bean first being released, it was again an adventure of trying new things and having an active development community building for it.
The Nexus 4...I don't know. Other than aesthetics I don't think it's as good of a phone for me as the GNex was. The same core of ROMs run on both phones, but the Galaxy Nexus had a lot more storage.
I still like my phone, but I almost feel like I lost a hobby.
In response to the "get a hobby / start dating" comment. I'm married, work a ton, and have a few hobbies, but I still liked tinkering with my phone during my free evenings.
Yeah, where's all the 13 y/o developers (jk) who used to use the kitchen to make cute roms with custom everything (fonts wallpapers bootanimations dialer you name it) and really stand behind the ROM . As much as other big respectable devs who build from source like to ridicule them, I actually really miss them.
I see illusion ROM kinda doing it right now for the nexus 4 and love it. hopefully more come for us...
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Is it just me, or is there a lack of diversity when it comes to ROMs for the n4? I have been using the nexus lineup since the nexus s, and it seemed back then, and with the galaxy nexus, there was more variety. As in sense ROMs or xperia ROMs, miui etc... With the n4 its miui or aosp variants like AOKP or cm10.
I was a flashoholic for sure back then but now it rarely seems like its worth the effort to try new ROMs out. I typically find one that is stable, and I stick to that for weeks or perhaps a couple of months. There is the odd new feature added to these new ROMs that's interesting, but nothing ever drasticly different.
Don't get me wrong, I love the ability to dump some lines of code in and have an LTE device, or benchmark near what the new s4 puts down, I do like the phone, but why no ports?? Even now there are 4.2.2 xperia ROMs on devices out there, why no n4 love? I have been waiting forever for an alternative lock screen (bb10 or lg's) that I don't think will ever come. Just find it weird.
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you have a point....but stock android with optimization is what most people download the roms for and get nexus 4 in first place (for many ppl)
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As a former Nexus S 4G and GNex owner, I agree with him. I don't flash roms anymore because I'm bored with them. I picked up another Nexus phone because I know from experience that Nexus phones push the limits of android, and I just don't feel that about the N4. I'm very thankful for all the devs that are out there, but most of the ROMs coming out for the N4 are large group roms (PA, CM10.1, AOKP) and are not made specifically for our device. ROMs that are made specifically for our device lack diversity.
With the HTC Evo 4G I was trying every ROM out there, and when ICS was released I was on the cutting edge with it, and upgraded to the NS4G because of the way it handled ICS. I then switched all over the place looking for more speed and stability, eager to try out every new feature. Then came the GNex, with Jelly Bean first being released, it was again an adventure of trying new things and having an active development community building for it.
The Nexus 4...I don't know. Other than aesthetics I don't think it's as good of a phone for me as the GNex was. The same core of ROMs run on both phones, but the Galaxy Nexus had a lot more storage.
I still like my phone, but I almost feel like I lost a hobby.
In response to the "get a hobby / start dating" comment. I'm married, work a ton, and have a few hobbies, but I still liked tinkering with my phone during my free evenings.
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Well you said it, galaxy nexus had jelly bean. There were no big updates during the era of the nexus 4, but give it a bit of time till KLP (or whatever it's gonna be called) arrives, none of those buggy touchwiz or sense roms will interest you. Oh and it's gonna be exclusive to a few devices (nexus line and GE phones)
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I'd rather have developers pushing the boundaries of AOSP (so everyone can enjoy them) than investing time in a proprietary and in the end, lackluster result compared to the stock experience.
Unless the device is a direct relative, you won't see a good port of any OEM firmware.
I believe stock has a great level of quality and that can be seen on the polls, most people using pure stock.
Also we have great Roms that build upon AOSP and our device is first party supported (see PA). With features like HALO, privacy controls and others, they are delivering great improvements across all devices.
In the end, if you want the best AOSP experience, get a Nexus.
If you want the best Touchwiz experience, get S4.
If you want the best Sense experience, get One.
Etc.
If you really need a OEM overlay, I guess you have the wrong device, friend.
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I just installed PA with HALO to try to prove my thoughts wrong, and there's really no way to get rid of HALO? It's annoying and intrusive, I absolutely hate it, and it just sits there. I went to hide it, and it still just sits on the edge of my screen. Gah! It makes me claustrophobic. I realize that this isn't a popular opinion as everybody raves about HALO, but I can't stand it.
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I just installed PA with HALO to try to prove my thoughts wrong, and there's really no way to get rid of HALO? It's annoying and intrusive, I absolutely hate it, and it just sits there. I went to hide it, and it still just sits on the edge of my screen. Gah! It makes me claustrophobic. I realize that this isn't a popular opinion as everybody raves about HALO, but I can't stand it.
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Same here, I couldn't stand it for more than 5 minutes when I tried it. I even tried to like the whole pie craze, but after 2 days I got sick of swiping to use the navigation buttons, it just felt like extra work. I mean don't get me wrong the PA team are absolute geniuses at what they do, but it just wasn't for me.
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Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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Not sure what you are looking for or what you are missing, but there has been plenty of Dev support for the VZW VS980
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Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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I am talking from my experience with the G Pro. There are Roms but really all those CM based Roms or other ones are all weak compared to the stock based Roms. U loose so many features with those costume Roms. From dual shot camera and video to quick note to smart screen and smart video to some other great features u only have on stock ROM. U basically gonna cripple ur G2 if u use a costume ROM.
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Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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OMG another one of these threads that has been answered over and over. If you don't like the current developer support on the G2, then return it. I find it funny that the people that always ask starts these topics are smart enough to find XDA forums to look for development but yet don't look around in the General and Development threads to gauge for themselves on whether it has enough developer support for that phone to them.
How soon do people except a custom ROM besides just a debloated stock ROM in the first few weeks? Since its clear that you are not a developer and don't understand that you can't just whip out pre-alpha custom ROMs that will crash people's phones and it takes time to do this stuff. Remember that the developers are not paid to do this stuff and do this as a hobby. If you can't deal with patience than get the GS4 or the HTC One.
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OMG another one of these threads that has been answered over and over. If you don't like the current developer support on the G2, then return it. I find it funny that the people that always ask starts these topics are smart enough to find XDA forums to look for development but yet don't look around in the General and Development threads to gauge for themselves on whether it has enough developer support for that phone to them.
How soon do people except a custom ROM besides just a debloated stock ROM in the first few weeks? Since its clear that you are not a developer and don't understand that you can't just whip out pre-alpha custom ROMs that will crash people's phones and it takes time to do this stuff. Remember that the developers are not paid to do this stuff and do this as a hobby. If you can't deal with patience than get the GS4 or the HTC One.
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This thread happens with every new phone lol! O.P even the phones you want to exchange with this one at some point had threads just like this one right before ROMS became available
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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2 roms is far from a lot of support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Sounds like the OP is the typical "user" anymore. For some reason even tjo they have no idea the amount of work that goes into building a rom or a kernel or mod, they just somehow feel entitled to get it when they want it. Guess what dude, had HTC ONE on release day , and development was slower than the G2 is. Want a rom when you want it.....build it yourself . this **** aint easy, if it was youd be building a rom instead of *****ing about it.
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2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Don't know what to say since you feel entitled to have 20 custom ROMs a week after release. If you are so compelled to want custom ROMs, why don't you try developing one and contributing instead of complaining. You seem way too paranoid about developer support for a phone for someone that contributes nothing to the development scene. Most of us are just grateful that we have volunteer developers that want to develop ROMs for the LG G2. I don't demand but rather appreciate all the hard work that they do when they feel ready to release it. I understand that making a ROM is not a walk in the park or else everyone would be doing it.
My advice to you....get a GS4 or HTC One. It has 20 billion custom ROMs that you can flash to your heart's desire right now.
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Don't know what to say since you feel entitled to have 20 custom ROMs a week after release. If you are so compelled to want custom ROMs, why don't you try developing one and contributing instead of complaining. You seem way too paranoid about developer support for a phone for someone that contributes nothing to the development scene. Most of us are just grateful that we have volunteer developers that want to develop ROMs for the LG G2. I don't demand but rather appreciate all the hard work that they do when they feel ready to release it. I understand that making a ROM is not a walk in the park or else everyone would be doing it.
My advice to you....get a GS4 or HTC One. It has 20 billion custom ROMs that you can flash to your heart's desire right now.
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Or just get an iPhone, it seems to have as much development future as the G2 according to the OP
Hosehead said:
2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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Then return it, or sack up n learn how to do it yourself.....
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2 roms is far from other if support. A few tweaks. Nothing to write home about. No OEM accessories except for one overpriced case.
Sorry, but coming from a long line of custom roms on devices I have a higher expectation for my roms. And those CM or AOKP types blow stock out of the water and add tons of other features that outperform the stock.
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It hasn't even been a full month yet, and we have a decent amount of mods and a couple ROMs already. That's nothing to scoff at by any sort of reasonable standard. Slow your roll, bro.
Hosehead said:
Should I be getting paranoid that the developer support of this device is very slow out of the gate? The hardware is great and beats everything else I tried, but now with S-Off out there for the One on VZW, I am getting worried that I chose poorly.
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im a flashaholic, and once i got root on this bad boy i got all my apps i needed
gameplay is smooth
im really liking lg's UI and stock rom/kernel
Phone rarely even gets warm ,not hot.
Camera is really great
Quick Remote is great as well
Im satisfied with stock rom for once. lol
battery is INSANE checkout post #76 screenshots , no way thatll happen on the ONE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470564&page=8
I've owned plenty of popular flagship devices and even though they have plenty of ROM selection, I've found them to be very similar to each other so I only chose between two or three different ones as my daily driver... So ROM selection is usually over rated based on all the copycat ROM available.
I personally enjoyed my time more with the smaller and unpopular devices that had fewer ROM's at first but then development picked up. Which I think will be the case with this phone.
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Or how about STFU...I think that about covers it ?
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I'm very happy with this phone and the activity in the development community so far. The only two major things I would like to see happen in the future is a port of 4.4 and of 5.0 when they eventually are released into the wild. I don't have much faith in LG but with the new nexus phone so similar I'd imagine this will be done.
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Medialunas said:
I'm very happy with this phone and the activity in the development community so far. The only two major things I would like to see happen in the future is a port of 4.4 and of 5.0 when they eventually are released into the wild. I don't have much faith in LG but with the new nexus phone so similar I'd imagine this will be done.
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Ya with the nexus phone for sure. But for there non nexus phones.? I don't know if LG can be trusted to update those. Lol
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Lots of bitter smart asses here I see. Wow. I stated an opinion and got flamed. What douchebags.
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from my experience the best roms out there is the one close to the ship rom. any AOSP or etc. roms will have missing features.
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Lots of bitter smart asses here I see. Wow. I stated an opinion and got flamed. What douchebags.
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U diserve it, whining cause someone else isnt doing work u want on your timeframe....... If its that big of a deal, do some research, and learn.... then u dont have to depend on anyone but u...