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Hello Xoom owners,
I have been closely following the progress of the Xoom and am excited with what I'm seeing. I plan on purchasing the Wifi version when it releases in April. The reason I am interested in the Xoom is the productivity aspect of it, i.e. typing and web browsing. I'm not too worried about video playback or apps right now. My question to you is, how proficient is the Xoom in these categories? I need this tablet to be as much of a standalone device as it can be (unlike another tablet that needs to be plugged into itunes). I am happy to see usb mounting because this will help file transferring even more. I used pages on the ipad and was moderately impressed. Any opinions? How does the Xoom match up to the ipad in writing and the web?
Thanks in advance!
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same concern
i hav same concern, i guess xoom is much better than ipad2 coz of productivity, right now i dont care about apps. i want to browse faster...is it the ultimate machine to browse ??? one more thing can i use netflix thru browser
thankx
freddyraptor22 said:
i hav same concern, i guess xoom is much better than ipad2 coz of productivity, right now i dont care about apps. i want to browse faster...is it the ultimate machine to browse ??? one more thing can i use netflix thru browser
thankx
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The Xoom has zzero productivity apps, no word processor no excel. Honeycomb will Bea great os once they get rid of the lag, until that point apple really does win because it just works. Now i have a Xoom and the I pad 2, I love them both and trying to pick which one to return is ggoing to br vvery hard.
mchimney said:
The Xoom has zzero productivity apps, no word processor no excel. Honeycomb will Bea great os once they get rid of the lag, until that point apple really does win because it just works. Now i have a Xoom and the I pad 2, I love them both and trying to pick which one to return is ggoing to br vvery hard.
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Documents to Go is available on android and iOS platform. What makes you claim that Xoom has zero productivity apps?
I have Documents to Go and although it's not optimized for Honeycomb, I haven't had any problems with it. I'm looking forward to a tablet version but for now I don't have any complaints.
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What about Google Docs? Is the standard html5 interface accessible?
I also use documents to go on the XOOM. No problems at all making word and excel docs. It also does power point, but i don't.
mchimney said:
The Xoom has zzero productivity apps, no word processor no excel. Honeycomb will Bea great os once they get rid of the lag, until that point apple really does win because it just works. Now i have a Xoom and the I pad 2, I love them both and trying to pick which one to return is ggoing to br vvery hard.
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If it is just for the "I need a word processor NOW" effect then go with the iPad. From what I've heard the Pages, Numbers, and Keynote apps are pretty sweet. If you want a great overall experience of a real OS, however, you should stick with the Xoom. I love how I can play around with it. And since I have no urgent need to write a lot or crunch numbers on the Xoom (that's what I have my laptop for for now) I will wait until something really effective comes out. For now I'm stuck with the Documents To Go which is very basic but at least I can open and view documents decently. Yes, it's the paid version.
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I also use documents to go on the XOOM. No problems at all making word and excel docs. It also does power point, but i don't.
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HAHA! I would say what you get from D2G in regards to PowerPoint is more comparable to a very pathetic "PDF" version of a .ppt(x) file. No animations, picture effects are messed up, etc. BUT, if you have plain and simple presentations you can view them OK.
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Hello Xoom owners,
I have been closely following the progress of the Xoom and am excited with what I'm seeing. I plan on purchasing the Wifi version when it releases in April. The reason I am interested in the Xoom is the productivity aspect of it, i.e. typing and web browsing. I'm not too worried about video playback or apps right now. My question to you is, how proficient is the Xoom in these categories? I need this tablet to be as much of a standalone device as it can be (unlike another tablet that needs to be plugged into itunes). I am happy to see usb mounting because this will help file transferring even more. I used pages on the ipad and was moderately impressed. Any opinions? How does the Xoom match up to the ipad in writing and the web?
Thanks in advance!
Sent from my Epic 4G
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It doesnt match up at all. You just have to be patient, or go with the ipad. I chose the latter, but I'm impatient.
freddyraptor22 said:
i hav same concern, i guess xoom is much better than ipad2 coz of productivity, right now i dont care about apps. i want to browse faster...is it the ultimate machine to browse ??? one more thing can i use netflix thru browser
thankx
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No netflix thru the browser because Netflix uses silverlight which has no android port.
I have no problem waiting for the word processing to get better on the xoom. I'm not planning on writing papers on this thing, maybe just rough drafts but it needs to have something. Probably going with the xoom, just having second thoughts after seeing the ipad 2.
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docs.google.com works for me. i'm not doing anything with word docs and excel docs that cause any problems. i rely on docs.google.com for my cr-48 too. or at least i did. since the xoom arrived the cr-48 isn't getting much lovin'.
Okay i e-mail quickoffice to see if they're offering a honeycomb version of their suite
they made a tablet version specifically for notion ink adam as shown here:
so here what they said
"Hi Kam,
Quickoffice is indeed available on the Motorola XOOM. The app ships preinstalled on the device, and is currently available in view-only mode. Quickoffice for Honeycomb will be available soon, offering editing functionality as well. Please stay tuned!
Best,
Katelyn
Katelyn Perkins
LEWIS PR – Global Communications "
slshults said:
docs.google.com works for me. i'm not doing anything with word docs and excel docs that cause any problems. i rely on docs.google.com for my cr-48 too. or at least i did. since the xoom arrived the cr-48 isn't getting much lovin'.
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ill take it haha
my Android SDK 3.0 lets me access GoogleDocs, just like the browser
Anyone using your TF in ministry? Particularly in preaching or teaching! If so what programs are you finding useful?
if you consider showing off how android is better and more useful than iOS to Apple fans as preaching or ministry (honestly its not far off!!), then yes I do!
Haven't worked on it much lately, but I started writing a tablet optimized Bible app when I first got the Transformer. At the time there wasn't really anything available that took advantage of the tablet real estate. Search Bible by bedoig in the market.
I haven't looked for good tablet bible apps in a long time. I'd be interested what people are using these days as well.
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Logos has an app that allows me to access my Logos collection from the tablet.
If one does not have Logos (ridiculously expensive! I bought it in seminary many many years ago.) then a good and more affordable alternative is Olive Tree:
I use Kingston office of the stock reader to view the sermon while preaching saving many trees....
Blessings
RevJonG
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Unfortunately there are not many ministry app available for the transformer. I use Bible from "YouVersion" because it allows you to acces multiple versions of the bible and save many of them on the transformer for offline use. It looks pretty good on the tablet as well. The bad part is there is no real way to save notes along with scripture, or to jump to pre-determined passages (bookmarked passages). Its been awhile since i've looked at ministry apps. As much as i love my transformer and how powerful it is, ive honestly been considering the ipad 3 when it drops simply because of the developer community and the apps it has available. i really dont want to though.
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Unfortunately there are not many ministry app available for the transformer. I use Bible from "YouVersion" because it allows you to acces multiple versions of the bible and save many of them on the transformer for offline use. It looks pretty good on the tablet as well. The bad part is there is no real way to save notes along with scripture, or to jump to pre-determined passages (bookmarked passages). Its been awhile since i've looked at ministry apps. As much as i love my transformer and how powerful it is, ive honestly been considering the ipad 3 when it drops simply because of the developer community and the apps it has available. i really dont want to though.
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I have also been considering the iPad 3 but as you said I really don't want to. My son has an iPad2 and he is using it in ministry and currently using it while preaching or teaching. I have not gotten that comfortable with my TF but I would like to use it more effectively in ministry.
It's not sounding like much has changed since the last time I looked. I like YouVersion on my phone but found it lacking on a tablet. I've looked at Logos and Olivetree in the past as well but they weren't really what I was looking for.
The main reason I started working on one was to have a built in notes pane alongside the bible. I also added scripture identification within the notes to automatically create hyperlinks that open that section of the bible when clicked. I'm not a minister so I was more focused on the note taking scenario, but several ministers have told me they have found it useful.
Might just have to start working on it again since it doesn't seem like the options have improved much.
I'm using it for teaching and preaching currently.
I spend a lot of time at my laptop for work, the dropbox app has been great for syncing my documents between my laptop and my transformer.
I type my messages in Word or Kingston Office/Quickoffice Pro HD. Once they are finished I'll format them for my tablet (increasing font size, changing the margins, bold, highlight, change color and ensure that each page looks appropriate) and then save as a pdf.
There are some excellent pdf viewers out there, but I simply open my messages up with the Kindle app when I'm teaching/preaching. I prefer the swype or tap to navigate vice any scrolling.
I use Cloudprint to print from my tablet when necessary. I used to have a paper copy of my message as a backup just in case something... ahem... went wrong. However, now I just keep my Bible with me and I can pull off a sermon or teach from a prior study in an emergency.
I've added folders to my tablet to keep finished sermons/lessons by using ES File Explorer app (allows folders & shortcuts).
I've changed some of the icons out using ADW Launcher Ex to pretty things up a bit and further customize.
It's quite fun actually. We've got a good sized church 700 folks, so our platform is filled with iPads each service. I'm one of the few with a non iPad tablet but I'm certainly not complaining. LOL!
Hope this helps.
There may be more, but I'm still learning how to get good use out of the TF myself.
I use OliveTree
I do not preach often, but do enjoy OliveTree for my main Bible app. Great for Bible studies as it can have a synced comentary right on screen at the same time as the Bible. Very helpful when someone asks a question about a more elusive verse.
I used a mindmap in the Thinking Space app to preach a sermon when i left my hard copy at home. Went well and no-one noticed.
I only take my Tab to meetings and use calendars and Thinking Space to record notes or decisions.
Use Cardre Bible NRSV
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Also finding that i am leaving the notebook at home and taking the tablet. Just seem to be transitioning to a new mode.
I have orders of service and planning material in a dropbox that i share with a music and worship group. When near wifi it syncs to tablet. Thinking of implementing wifi in church facilities.
I am using more ad more ebooks and also working towards a paperless office. I am scanning articles and important sections of books and having them available with me. It is greatvfir reading/preparing on public transport or while waiting somewhere.
At the home office I can use tablet to read ebooks or pdf docs like a second screen as I prepare oos or sermon.
I am also a psychologist and have a folder for each client. Test and reports are at hand where-ever I am. Have used it when doctors call to check details.
I have parish directory in word format and in dropbox. I can quickly find an address when on the road and have used googlemaps to find my way. Also fiund that i can tap a phone number on my phone and instantly dial.
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There is an app called cam scanner, great at scanning in docs, pictures, whiteboard sessions, etc. and also syncs with dropbox.
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The best app that I have found is one called Mysword. It has numerous bible translations, commentaries, notes, dictionaries, and a huge community that is constantly releasing additional add-ons.
ezPDF might be helpful if you have PDFs of the books/book you need for the things you preach. You can even leave notes on the margin in ezPDF - that might be usefull. (And the post with dinosaur was really funny. )
Personally I would think the usual web/office needs would apply to preaching as much as anything similar; my pastor still uses paper. For bible+notes, I would rather think a Kindle version of your favoured translation would be the best bet. You get stuff for navigation the way a dedicated app could offer, along with the ability at marking and noting stuff that only a PDF file or dedicated bible reader might be able to offer. What would be lacking is the ability to cross reference other translations and sources easily or go straight to specific verses by number. For other books and stuff it should work fine and be less trouble than semi-illegally OCR'ing stuff, when whatever book you're interested in is available in the Kindle market.
As a Christian, I think you folks need to lighten up. Even GOD has a sense of humour, if you know HIM then you know that. If I was one of the people you should be reaching out to as a preacher instead of pushing away with behaviour like this: I'd look at this thread as a reason not to follow our saviour: he has too many people like you following him.
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Joey563 said:
The best app that I have found is one called Mysword. It has numerous bible translations, commentaries, notes, dictionaries, and a huge community that is constantly releasing additional add-ons.
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agree with my sword and yes i use my TF preaching and Teaching even using it in my Sunday school class to watch a video series....
e-sword modules can be converted to be used with my sword i have the
NIV--NKJV---AMP BIble
well i was using it until it died yesterday back to my good ole Leather Nelson Study bible until it returns to me...
@OP and the rest of you guys....please don't feed the troll. Instead report him like is supposed to be done
@tehtroll...don't comeback here mate. If you don't have anything nice to say...keep your opinions to yourself.
Cheers,
M_T_M
Tony Maroney said:
I'm using it for teaching and preaching currently.
I type my messages in Word or Kingston Office/Quickoffice Pro HD. Once they are finished I'll format them for my tablet (increasing font size, changing the margins, bold, highlight, change color and ensure that each page looks appropriate) and then save as a pdf.
This was helpful. I have converted to a pdf but I have not found the right font size or margins, etc. I'll keep trying.
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revjwb32 said:
agree with my sword and yes i use my TF preaching and Teaching even using it in my Sunday school class to watch a video series....
e-sword modules can be converted to be used with my sword i have the
NIV--NKJV---AMP BIble
well i was using it until it died yesterday back to my good ole Leather Nelson Study bible until it returns to me...
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I love e-sword on my laptop. I wish they had an android version. I'll look into converting them. Thanks for the tip. I hope you get you TF back soon.
budven said:
I love e-sword on my laptop. I wish they had an android version. I'll look into converting them. Thanks for the tip. I hope you get you TF back soon.
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Mysword is the android version of esword.
I'm a college student that owns a Galaxy S III, and will have a 16 GB Nexus 7 when it arrives tomorrow. In addition to playing games, I'd like to be productive on the tablet.
What apps, or functionality, do you think college students could benefit from greatly?
What you studying?
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ereaders such as ebookdroid
And office suit like QuickOffice
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Google Drive will be a big part of the productivity. I wouldn't be any productivity suites since Google just bought one of the most popular ones. They will probably incorporate it for free.
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I bought the Nexus 7 specifically to use it in college classes. I got the Logitech Android Keyboard along with it and so far I'm really pleased with how well it's made, despite the Nexus 7's finicky bluetooth.
I tried out a few different note-taking apps and honestly, the one I like the most so far is ASUS SuperNote. It seems to work out great with both typed and handwritten notes (especially when used with a stylus! )
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I'm a college student that owns a Galaxy S III, and will have a 16 GB Nexus 7 when it arrives tomorrow. In addition to playing games, I'd like to be productive on the tablet.
What apps, or functionality, do you think college students could benefit from greatly?
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I just graduated and these tips helped me greatly. So here goes...
For note-taking, stick to a laptop. Yea, you can download various apps, buy bluetooth/wireless keyboards for your nexus 7 but why?? stick with what you got. Use onenote with your laptop to take notes & record simultaneously (search youtube for more detailed tips on onenote).
- Get familiar with google calender. (Keep a designated "personal" calender where you might wanna keep important dates, doctor appointments etc. Then another calender "school" where you will input midterms, exams, assignment dates with reminders. Google calender is awesome. .... ** I suggest "business calender" app for aggregating all your calenders eg "bills", "personal" "college" etc.
- Dropbox - Don't carry flash drive's with you to campus. Put all your assignments for school in appropriate folders (1st year > science > bio ...) on the cloud. I use dropbox. You can easily use cubby, box , skydrive, google drive/docs. Other than your usual word papers, powerpoint notes from professors..**.I suggest you keep a folder for college with your academic calender + resume + GPA calculator etc. This way you can make additions to your resume as your go along your academic career. Plus you have access to stuff like your resume at all times in case you need to email it to a professor, internship, etc.
- Evernote - Evernote is powerful. It's up to you how you use the software which consequently can confuse beginners since they feel lost. I personally use it to store important documents, passwords logins(encrypted offcourse), make checklists (what stuff to bring to your dorms), shopping lists. I have a notebook for my "college" > where my college docs are located according to course. Then for "dental school "> where all my loan information, housing leases's etc. **Check out CAMSCANNER app (buy the pro version) to take scans of important documents and send them to dropbox/evernote/email etc. ... Get in the habit of keeping everything organized right from the start!
- You wanna get stuff done? you need a to-do list app. Take your pick at any of the top ones... Remember the Milk, Astrid etc. I personally prefer Astrid. It sync across my phone, nexus 7, & computers.
- Mint - to keep your finances in order (bank accnts, credit cards, etc. ).
- Another vote for Quick Office /Pro - to open docs like word, ppt, excel etc . It also can access & sync across the major cloud services like dropbox, drive etc.
- Splashtop Remote - I think its 5 bucks but worth it if you need functionality to stream your computer to your tablet. I use it to open flash sites (noobroom) & access my hard-drive remotely.
(optional) Tasker - Google it. Buy it if automation interests you.
Hope this was helpful and not a random rant.
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For note-taking, stick to a laptop. Yea, you can download various apps, buy bluetooth/wireless keyboards for your nexus 7 but why?? stick with what you got.
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Because I bike to campus and my laptop weighs 9 pounds, while a Nexus 7 is pretty much insubstantial. Got the tablet because it would be cheaper than buying a new laptop, and it's really comfortable to type on. Sync Google Drive using wifi on campus, and my notes are ready for me on my computer the second I get to my apartment. Easy.
As for productivity, WolframAlpha is an amazing app for math classes, just waiting for them to update it for Jelly Bean.
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Yeah, I bought mine for use at college, and the essentials are a good keyboard you like, a note-taking app you will actually use, and stickmount so you can edit from flash drives on the go. Oh, and a really sturdy stand, if you don't have a stand case. Beyond that, to each their own. I spent five bucks on a screenwriting app, but that's a pretty niche buy. Go look for your textbooks on every e-reader site you can (all but one of mine is Kindle). -Ara
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What you studying?
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Communication. More specifically, I'm majoring in Organizational Communication
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And office suit like QuickOffice
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Looks very nice! I don't think this will come in handy too often, but it looks like on that rare occasion it will come in handy! It's very unfortunate that the Nexus 7 has no sort of HDMI output. That's my only gripe about the phone as far as I can tell before getting it. However, my Samsung Galaxy S III will be compatible with an MHL adapter, so that may come in handy for making presentations!
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Google Drive will be a big part of the productivity. I wouldn't be any productivity suites since Google just bought one of the most popular ones. They will probably incorporate it for free.
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Google Docs is great. However, formatting can sometimes be a bit funky. I'll save a doc from Google Docs, and it will look different in Word. Formatting is VERY important to me to save documents in specific formats such as APA and MLA. If in the wrong format, it could lead to plagiarism, which would lead to academic dishonesty on my record/failing grades/waste of thousands of dollars. I need to make sure everything is perfect, and Google Docs doesn't have that at the moment. At least, I could never get everything to look the same as Microsoft Word.
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I bought the Nexus 7 specifically to use it in college classes. I got the Logitech Android Keyboard along with it and so far I'm really pleased with how well it's made, despite the Nexus 7's finicky bluetooth.
I tried out a few different note-taking apps and honestly, the one I like the most so far is ASUS SuperNote. It seems to work out great with both typed and handwritten notes (especially when used with a stylus! )
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I have to learn how to install .apk files manually. However, that app looks very cool! Between having to work with a tablet and a bluetooth keyboard, wouldn't it just be easier to use a laptop though?
ateebtk said:
I just graduated and these tips helped me greatly. So here goes...
For note-taking, stick to a laptop. Yea, you can download various apps, buy bluetooth/wireless keyboards for your nexus 7 but why?? stick with what you got. Use onenote with your laptop to take notes & record simultaneously (search youtube for more detailed tips on onenote).
- Get familiar with google calender. (Keep a designated "personal" calender where you might wanna keep important dates, doctor appointments etc. Then another calender "school" where you will input midterms, exams, assignment dates with reminders. Google calender is awesome. .... ** I suggest "business calender" app for aggregating all your calenders eg "bills", "personal" "college" etc.
- Dropbox - Don't carry flash drive's with you to campus. Put all your assignments for school in appropriate folders (1st year > science > bio ...) on the cloud. I use dropbox. You can easily use cubby, box , skydrive, google drive/docs. Other than your usual word papers, powerpoint notes from professors..**.I suggest you keep a folder for college with your academic calender + resume + GPA calculator etc. This way you can make additions to your resume as your go along your academic career. Plus you have access to stuff like your resume at all times in case you need to email it to a professor, internship, etc.
- Evernote - Evernote is powerful. It's up to you how you use the software which consequently can confuse beginners since they feel lost. I personally use it to store important documents, passwords logins(encrypted offcourse), make checklists (what stuff to bring to your dorms), shopping lists. I have a notebook for my "college" > where my college docs are located according to course. Then for "dental school "> where all my loan information, housing leases's etc. **Check out CAMSCANNER app (buy the pro version) to take scans of important documents and send them to dropbox/evernote/email etc. ... Get in the habit of keeping everything organized right from the start!
- You wanna get stuff done? you need a to-do list app. Take your pick at any of the top ones... Remember the Milk, Astrid etc. I personally prefer Astrid. It sync across my phone, nexus 7, & computers.
- Mint - to keep your finances in order (bank accnts, credit cards, etc. ).
- Another vote for Quick Office /Pro - to open docs like word, ppt, excel etc . It also can access & sync across the major cloud services like dropbox, drive etc.
- Splashtop Remote - I think its 5 bucks but worth it if you need functionality to stream your computer to your tablet. I use it to open flash sites (noobroom) & access my hard-drive remotely.
(optional) Tasker - Google it. Buy it if automation interests you.
Hope this was helpful and not a random rant.
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GREAT post! Thanks for the suggestions! I will utilize a lot of these apps. I already use Google Calendar. I have my personal calendar, and calendars for different organizations on campus that I'm involved in. It's nice to have everything work automatically between my phone, computer, and (as of tomorrow) tablet. Considering Google Calendar is compatible with almost every device out there, everyone should be using it.
Dropbox is great. I just wish that AT&T did their deal with Samsung to get AT&T users the free 50 GB of online storage. I have a feeling I'll be using Dropbox for some things and Google Drive for some things to make sure I have plenty of cloud storage.
I've never bothered to look into Evernote. I've heard only great things about it though. I guess it will be worth looking into.
Astrid looks good. I used to just use the notes app on my iPhone to get things done. As I got things done, I'd delete them. I'll look into this app though. Might as well give it a try.
Tasker... I can't even tell what this app is!
Anyway, thanks for the suggestions.
My goal herei s NOT to replace my laptop. I feel many people are eager to replace their laptops with tablets, and it ends up making their lives more complicated with all the services and accessories they need. I'm looking to make my tablet COMPLIMENT my life right now. The Nexus 7 is not at all a laptop replacement. Right now my life involves me making a daily commute to an internship, taking lots of classes, and working with different organizations around campus. This tablet I hope will enhance everything that I do, boost my productivity, and.... be good for playing some games! A goal I have this year is to go 100% paperless. I don't think I'll be able to do it, but it would be darn awesome if I could do that between using note taking apps, cloud storage, and other services. I want everything digital. If it gets too complicated though, then my Nexus 7 will just become a fun entertainment device for when I want a break.
This is normal.
If you can download the apk's on your laptop, use AirDroid to throw them to your nexus 7. Great thing about AirDroid is that you don't need to download and install it on a computer, its all Web Based.
Also thank you all for these great tips, its going to be my last year in highschool and I'd like to be very prepared for college/uni(for those folks in Europe).
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Because I bike to campus and my laptop weighs 9 pounds, while a Nexus 7 is pretty much insubstantial. Got the tablet because it would be cheaper than buying a new laptop, and it's really comfortable to type on. Sync Google Drive using wifi on campus, and my notes are ready for me on my computer the second I get to my apartment. Easy.
As for productivity, WolframAlpha is an amazing app for math classes, just waiting for them to update it for Jelly Bean.
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I obviously don't know what your school is or your major. But what do you do when you take a real math class that actually requires you to use Matlab or Maple IN CLASS as part of a lab or any number of extensive math programs? Or requires you to use any number of specialty programs (CAD, Labview, etc...)?
Can.I.Haz.Jelly.Bean? said:
My goal herei s NOT to replace my laptop. I feel many people are eager to replace their laptops with tablets, and it ends up making their lives more complicated with all the services and accessories they need. I'm looking to make my tablet COMPLIMENT my life right now. The Nexus 7 is not at all a laptop replacement. Right now my life involves me making a daily commute to an internship, taking lots of classes, and working with different organizations around campus. This tablet I hope will enhance everything that I do, boost my productivity, and.... be good for playing some games! A goal I have this year is to go 100% paperless. I don't think I'll be able to do it, but it would be darn awesome if I could do that between using note taking apps, cloud storage, and other services. I want everything digital. If it gets too complicated though, then my Nexus 7 will just become a fun entertainment device for when I want a break.
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You're looking at this the right way. Every device is suited well for certain things and not so well for others. I've found my N7 to be awesome for kicking back and playing games, poking around online, and doing a few lightweight tasks here and there. Most serious productivity, however, is best left to laptops, just like most serious gaming is best left to consoles or PCs.
There have been a lot of great app recommendations and I can't add many; I've been out of college for three years and a lot has changed since then. All I can suggest is what I did when I first got mine: copy over everything you have on your phone that you think you'd use, and slowly start adding things you think you'd like better on the tablet. Also, keep an eye on some of the blogs (RSS is good for this), as most of them post app recommendations now and then. It'll never replace your phone or laptop, but over time you'll find things that you like doing best on the tablet and it will end up complementing both quite nicely.
On another note, I can at least help with manually installing .apk files. Just go into Settings -> Security and check the "unknown sources" box. After that, all you have to do is open the file you've downloaded and follow the prompts.
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I obviously don't know what your school is or your major. But what do you do when you take a real math class that actually requires you to use Matlab or Maple IN CLASS as part of a lab or any number of extensive math programs? Or requires you to use any number of specialty programs (CAD, Labview, etc...)?
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He could always use a VPN and RDP solution.
If your college provide specific, it will be a must install
Also you may download some sort of study management apps, like istudiez/ihomework on iOS or Yesterday on Palm. I am not sure if android have similar apps in market
Evernote
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I wouldn't recommend that. I've tried remotely operating Matlab with my Transformer Prime, and coding with lag is not so hot. Even with a mouse the interface is a bit too wonky for heavy duty work.
Take notes? Certainly a tablet can handle the basics. I'd recommend Handy Notes for written (or hybrid written/typed) notes...waaaay better than SuperNote (but costs 0.99 cents). I've tried ALL of them and that's the only one that I think has an intuitive interface for handwriting and isn't laggy (I'm looking at you FreeNote). Plus it allows lots of formatting options.
If you just want to type, any of the word processors will do. I'm perfectly fine working with Google Drive's word processor. Presentations are fine as well--just stay the heck away from spreadsheets.
Three_Bob said:
If you can download the apk's on your laptop, use AirDroid to throw them to your nexus 7. Great thing about AirDroid is that you don't need to download and install it on a computer, its all Web Based.
Also thank you all for these great tips, its going to be my last year in highschool and I'd like to be very prepared for college/uni(for those folks in Europe).
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Oh, ok. I didn't know that .apk files are the apps themselves. Still learning some things. =P I'll give Asus's program a try then! I think that taking notes on a tablet will be a lot tougher than handwritten notes. I'll give it a try though! Couldn't hurt. It's part of my goal of going 100% paperless. If my notes are digital though, I'd like to be able to upload in the cloud to access them on my phone and laptop. (Not sure if Supernote lets you do that. I didn't check.)
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You're looking at this the right way. Every device is suited well for certain things and not so well for others. I've found my N7 to be awesome for kicking back and playing games, poking around online, and doing a few lightweight tasks here and there. Most serious productivity, however, is best left to laptops, just like most serious gaming is best left to consoles or PCs.
There have been a lot of great app recommendations and I can't add many; I've been out of college for three years and a lot has changed since then. All I can suggest is what I did when I first got mine: copy over everything you have on your phone that you think you'd use, and slowly start adding things you think you'd like better on the tablet. Also, keep an eye on some of the blogs (RSS is good for this), as most of them post app recommendations now and then. It'll never replace your phone or laptop, but over time you'll find things that you like doing best on the tablet and it will end up complementing both quite nicely.
On another note, I can at least help with manually installing .apk files. Just go into Settings -> Security and check the "unknown sources" box. After that, all you have to do is open the file you've downloaded and follow the prompts.
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Thank you!
x-magic said:
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Also you may download some sort of study management apps, like istudiez/ihomework on iOS or Yesterday on Palm. I am not sure if android have similar apps in market
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Actually, the way I make myself study is through procrastination. I'm a horrible procrastinator, so I learned to use it to my advantage. I start off every homework/study session by watching an episode of a show I like. Then I make a short goal for myself (like memorize 5 terms if it's memorizing, or get a certain amount of sources for a research paper), and then I watch another episode. Then I make another short goal. I just use my horrible procrastination to an advantage. By the end of everything, I watched a whole lot of TV, and I got a ton done. Thank you Netflix.
Buy a BT keyboard that works for you: that means it should be portable and comfortable to use. If it's too big you'll never pack it in your bag, and if you don't enjoy typing on it it'll never make it out of the bag. Don't go for one of the cramped, squishy rubber key ones you see on eBay or Amazon third party sellers, or a gimmicky keyboard case. Unless you have baby hands no 7" tablet keyboard case will be practical for tapping out more than a couple of emails. Read reviews, buy from a place that makes returns easy, and try a few out. I like the HP Touchpad keyboard, but there are many others out there too.
Sigh. Just had some disturbing problems with polaris office and I think this may be the straw that causes me to return the note before my date comes up on it. I just post this here in case other people are thinking about purchasing one or want to know its limitations.
I would preface this by saying I absolutely love this note, it works amazing, is fast, light, amazing build and am continually impressed by it. All the shortcomings are more of the android ecosystems issue.
So the issue, Ive been editing documents in Polaris office during meetings, and finally have noticed that polaris has been quietly corrupting my documents. Sure they look good, even edited. But when I open them in Word there are small but aggravating issues. The biggest is it breaks paragraphs, and I have no idea how to fix them in Word.
For example paragraphs st
art looking like this with th
e wording and word spacin
g all disjoined. And Micro
soft says if this happens yo
ur Document is corrupt.
I have found other people online and even on XDA complaining about this issue over a year ago, don't know if there is a solution but it doesnt seem like. I also wonder how I would get updates to Polaris (why isnt it in google play?).
Other problems include SNote not quite being up to par, and not being able to find a suitable replacement, although lecturenotes tries hard and may get there. Not being able to find a lot of high quality apps in other categories (e.g. childrens books/learning games). And it not playing nice enough with my groupwise/exchange appointments.
Darn I like this thing. But I keep thinking on the 26th Ill get an amazing SNote replacement (one note) with complete office integration, pluse my email will work fine. Oh and Ill be able to get unlimited learning games on an x86 tablet. Only downside the thing would probably only last 7-10 hours in battery life instead of the 2 days my notes been going. Hmmmmm
Anyone else notice this problem in Polaris? Solution?
Get a different app and keep your Note. Samsung doesn't make Polaris.
hanexs said:
Sigh. Just had some disturbing problems with polaris office and I think this may be the straw that causes me to return the note before my date comes up on it. I just post this here in case other people are thinking about purchasing one or want to know its limitations.
I would preface this by saying I absolutely love this note, it works amazing, is fast, light, amazing build and am continually impressed by it. All the shortcomings are more of the android ecosystems issue.
So the issue, Ive been editing documents in Polaris office during meetings, and finally have noticed that polaris has been quietly corrupting my documents. Sure they look good, even edited. But when I open them in Word there are small but aggravating issues. The biggest is it breaks paragraphs, and I have no idea how to fix them in Word.
For example paragraphs st
art looking like this with th
e wording and word spacin
g all disjoined. And Micro
soft says if this happens yo
ur Document is corrupt.
I have found other people online and even on XDA complaining about this issue over a year ago, don't know if there is a solution but it doesnt seem like. I also wonder how I would get updates to Polaris (why isnt it in google play?).
Other problems include SNote not quite being up to par, and not being able to find a suitable replacement, although lecturenotes tries hard and may get there. Not being able to find a lot of high quality apps in other categories (e.g. childrens books/learning games). And it not playing nice enough with my groupwise/exchange appointments.
Darn I like this thing. But I keep thinking on the 26th Ill get an amazing SNote replacement (one note) with complete office integration, pluse my email will work fine. Oh and Ill be able to get unlimited learning games on an x86 tablet. Only downside the thing would probably only last 7-10 hours in battery life instead of the 2 days my notes been going. Hmmmmm
Anyone else notice this problem in Polaris? Solution?
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None of the faux-Office products are great; on the Note or any other Android device. I do OK editing existing documents but the more complex ones (outlines, tables, charts, graphs) can be challenging. I pretty much don't use formatting when I'm creating a documents from scratch and import it in to Word as text and finish it off there. You sound like an excellent candidate for a W8 tablet. Speaking of which, MS has said (via Europe) Office for Android is due late this year via TechNet and early next year generally.
Before you send it back, try this app as it is supposed to resemble MS Word really well, there is a free trial if you give them your email and register your interest:
http://www.softmaker.com/english/ofa_en.htm
hanexs said:
Sigh. Just had some disturbing problems with polaris office and I think this may be the straw that causes me to return the note before my date comes up on it. I just post this here in case other people are thinking about purchasing one or want to know its limitations.
I would preface this by saying I absolutely love this note, it works amazing, is fast, light, amazing build and am continually impressed by it. All the shortcomings are more of the android ecosystems issue.
So the issue, Ive been editing documents in Polaris office during meetings, and finally have noticed that polaris has been quietly corrupting my documents. Sure they look good, even edited. But when I open them in Word there are small but aggravating issues. The biggest is it breaks paragraphs, and I have no idea how to fix them in Word.
For example paragraphs st
art looking like this with th
e wording and word spacin
g all disjoined. And Micro
soft says if this happens yo
ur Document is corrupt.
I have found other people online and even on XDA complaining about this issue over a year ago, don't know if there is a solution but it doesnt seem like. I also wonder how I would get updates to Polaris (why isnt it in google play?).
Other problems include SNote not quite being up to par, and not being able to find a suitable replacement, although lecturenotes tries hard and may get there. Not being able to find a lot of high quality apps in other categories (e.g. childrens books/learning games). And it not playing nice enough with my groupwise/exchange appointments.
Darn I like this thing. But I keep thinking on the 26th Ill get an amazing SNote replacement (one note) with complete office integration, pluse my email will work fine. Oh and Ill be able to get unlimited learning games on an x86 tablet. Only downside the thing would probably only last 7-10 hours in battery life instead of the 2 days my notes been going. Hmmmmm
Anyone else notice this problem in Polaris? Solution?
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Return your Note 10.1, and wait for the Surface.
Another great app worth looking at is OfficeSuite Pro and remember that sNote should receive a very nice update with the JB release that I am hoping/expecting before month's end.
Wait for the 4.1 update and maybe it'll be resolved
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Return your Note 10.1, and wait for the Surface.
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If you want to wait on W8 that's all good but bring money. Getting the same level of performance as the SGN10.1 with pen input will cost you many hundreds more.
Don't get the Surface - it's junk with that silly soft keyboard. How the heck do you even use it on your lap? I guess it's called "Surface" because you have to have a flat surface to use it.
Returning a device you love because an app that's available for it sucks? That's ... an interesting decision. You know Samsung's decision to bundle Polaris Office doesn't mean you have to use it, do you?
Softmaker Office is a very popular alternative among XDA members. Last time I looked, they only had the word processor available on the Play store, not spreadsheets, presentations etc. You can probably get them from the developer's website.
There are also plenty of other alternatives. Kingsoft Office gets VERY good reviews on the play store - I'm tempted to try it just from the reviews. OfficeSuite Pro is also apparently good on a tablet.
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None of the faux-Office products are great; on the Note or any other Android device. I do OK editing existing documents but the more complex ones (outlines, tables, charts, graphs) can be challenging. I pretty much don't use formatting when I'm creating a documents from scratch and import it in to Word as text and finish it off there. You sound like an excellent candidate for a W8 tablet. Speaking of which, MS has said (via Europe) Office for Android is due late this year via TechNet and early next year generally.
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And there are reports (take with grain of salt) that MS will be offering a version of Office Mobile for android.
I just did a round of budgeting at work on my Note 10.1 using OfficeSuite Pro and had no issues. Primarily Excel. No problems with formulas at all.
HasC said:
Before you send it back, try this app as it is supposed to resemble MS Word really well, there is a free trial if you give them your email and register your interest:
http://www.softmaker.com/english/ofa_en.htm
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thanks for the tip. I just got this from the play store and it seems really good so far
Thanks for all the tip. Installed OfficeSuit Pro, and Softmaker and QuickOffice pro. Softmaker worked the best, but none of them had the ability to input with the stylus (e.g. freehand draw) like polaris does. Polaris really sold me on this tablet, I mean sure, it doesnt have onenote, but who needs onenote when i can instantly open the doc from my dropbox, make the notes I need, and finalize when I get back to the office. But it doesnt really look like thats possible yet with polaris corrupting so many files. And if Im going to type out my nights, I have an amazing Lenovo Thinkpad X100e that blows any tablet out of the water for keyboard entry. I was really hoping for stylus support, but the apps just arent here yet, Ill look again on Jelly Bean update, seems like this stylus computer dream has been in waiting for sooo long.
Incidentally my 2 year old daughter really loves the tablet. shes been the one reason I've been wanting to keep it, all the touch games, shes been doing puzzles and books and learning her letters with it, quite amazing. Now I just have to decide what to get her, Nexus is pretty cheap, or there might be some used ipads kicking around with better app support (might as well get a toy to be used as a toy after all).
Samsung made an awesome piece of hardware here, all the talk about it feeling cheap is wrong, its slick, fast, small, light and just awesome to hold. Just wish it had some better app support. Soon hopefully.
Get 7Notes with mazec. It's an HWR keyboard you Can use almost everywhere.
Here's the thing MS has for years worked real hard to keep their office suite and word processing software proprietary and have been quite sucsessful at this. So any time you try to use a system that is not controled by MS with MS software you will find this problem to some extent. Whether it is a tablet, laptop or desktop. This is one of the reasons I refuse to use MS products, but that is me. What all this means to you is until you find a MS compatible tablet running MS software that MS has said is compatible with their office suite you will have these problems. On top of that there is (as yet) no evidence that a Windows tablet will be 100% compatible with all Windows software. In fact there are reports that there will be programs that would run on Win 7 that are not expected to run on Win 8.
My question to you is do you want the features of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.0 or do you want to give up those features and hope a MS Windows machine will fulfill your needs without compromises? I personally have never seen an OS or a computing device that did not have compromises.
Think I read last night Microsoft are releasing office for android soon.
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Think I read last night Microsoft are releasing office for android soon.
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... and today they denied the statement.
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... and today they denied the statement.
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It's coming...just like a lot of their Xbox live features made their way to the iOS ecosystem. Of course they denied their slip, it is just a few weeks until their new tablets become available. I am sure a big selling point of Surface and other Win 8 tabs will be the availability of MS Office products, if they did not deny the rumors; those who were going to switch from iOS and Android because of Office would have just stayed with their current devices instead of dropping $$$ on MS's new Hardware. MS is smart, they know they can penetrate other ecosystems with their products. They will just wait until the hype surrounding Windows 8 and Windows 8 RT dies down so that they can capitalize on hardware sales out of the gate.
Having said that, I dropped my PC and have moved on to just using the GN10.1. I am a freelance journalist, and I do all of my writing on the tablet. Polaris is good, but Office Suite Pro 6 is excellent. I have zero problems creating and editing pieces in .doc format. It just works.
Its back and I already miss it! lol
The microsoft atoms should be able to fill what I need, but I suspect they'll have their own problems. Still, samsungs making one with a keyboard dock and s-pen. Might be enticing.
The other office programs worked better, but they didnt have the ability to free draw on top of the document like polaris has. I want a tablet because in my many meetings, when someone is commenting or we are discussing a plan, I want to quickly mark it up. I can go back to my top to do the real work, but the thoughts I'd like to write, directly on the document in question. I can't do that in snote because my pc cant modify snote. And if I have to type it I'll just bring my netbook. Has anyone found an office program that works well with an ability to free draw? I bought a few last night but couldnt find one.
I may get a note 10.1 again in a couple months, who knows the app I need might be in development
I saw the news and as far as I recall, the new CEO of Microsoft mentioned that he wants to have Office running on any devices. Does that hint that we could run Office on the Note in the near future?
Not sure that I care, I am sure I do not care.
Problem is, only Windows will support all macros and such. Their Mac version still doesn't support all macros and it has been around for 20 years or so.
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So, I should not hope that this will happen in 1-2 years?
Who needs office. On the pro 12.2 we have hancom office, a total word clone, and it should be available soon on the 10.1. Also while office is free now in ios, that's just to READ, not to edit. To do everything you hae to pay $100.00 for a one year subscription. Like I said, who needs it.
well, Microsoft announced Office for android for free now and for tablet bit there is a roumer about it coming to android tablet soon. not sure if it is true or not.
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Who needs office. On the pro 12.2 we have hancom office, a total word clone, and it should be available soon on the 10.1. Also while office is free now in ios, that's just to READ, not to edit. To do everything you hae to pay $100.00 for a one year subscription. Like I said, who needs it.
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Can handcome office play PowerPoint presentations that has animations effect?
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Can handcome office play PowerPoint presentations that has animations effect?
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Yes it can do animations, but they are a lite choppy. They will be basic, not every one office has.
woowdy said:
well, Microsoft announced Office for android for free now and for tablet bit there is a roumer about it coming to android tablet soon. not sure if it is true or not.
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Anything Microsoft puts out will be tied to Office 365 at $100 for up to five users. Hanson is great. Add a keyboard and mouse and it has 60% of office. Most people only use 40% of office features anyway.
I think I am ok with the Hancom office, it's about as close as the real Microsoft Office as it can get. And there is no extra charge for it, most likely Microsoft will add an extra charge for office.
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You mean this?
http://www.greenbot.com/article/2127781/microsoft-office-mobile-for-android-is-now-free.html
Anyone using it on their phones? Are you able to open email attachments within it, edit them and send them back? Just wondering since it has been noted that it doesn't allow writing to local storage but works only with OneDrive.
Edit: Just watched Android Authority's review and am unimpressed. Hancom offers far more functionality than the office mobile apps.
http://youtu.be/pYuJIGwloCk
At least with hancom you have the ability to insert and manipulate images.
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Anyone using it on their phones? Are you able to open email attachments within it, edit them and send them back? Just wondering since it has been noted that it doesn't allow writing to local storage but works only with OneDrive.
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I installed it on my Galaxy Note 2 but it seems that it cannot open files stored in the phone. It seems that we have to store the files in OneDrive first. Can anybody else confirm this? It seems to be inconvenience. Anybody tried OneDrive? Is Microsoft trying to make us use this service?
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I installed it on my Galaxy Note 2 but it seems that it cannot open files stored in the phone. It seems that we have to store the files in OneDrive first. Can anybody else confirm this? It seems to be inconvenience. Anybody tried OneDrive? Is Microsoft trying to make us use this service?
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Confirmed. You have save files in OneDrive.
You can open email attachments, edit and send, but that is it. The 'back of storage options is sad. I do get why they do it, they have to make money since they are not charging for the app. It needs to support Dropbox or at least local storage.
So, basically it is no use unless I get OneDrive. If I do, will it be fully compatible with the Windows/Mac versions of Office?
You can get 10 GB of free OneDrive storage. I use it solely for backups of my documents and textbooks. Hancom blows Office for Android out of the water at current, and unless they update it to be able to work on files while offline I don't see it beating Hancom anytime soon.
Samsung's agreement with Hancom helps make the Pro series THE Android tablet to own.
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I haven't tried all the functionality yet, but at least for now it appears M$ is also allowing 'office online' for free if you have any kind of microsoft account (xbox, onedrive, etc).
Go to office.com and you can use office online, appears to work fine in chrome browser with 'request desktop site' ticked. Obviously internet connection needed, might chew up a bit more bandwidth than office mobile but hopefully someone finds it useful.
It's not perfect, but it's solid, and FREE
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andropenoffice
Some of the graphics scaling is off, but not unusable.
Not that these devices are considered affordable, but open source software is, for everyone. It provides opportunities for new, and otherwise-hampered developers to hone their skills. Here's the kicker, though, it can (and sometimes does) keep commercial software developers on their toes, that is, if it doesn't provide them with usable code. My favorite part about it is that it's free of commercial interest, so far, so you don't have to worry about data-mining or time-wasting popups & notifications.
Not that this is open source, but OO is, as are the file formats. Every little nudge helps.