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[Q] Debating a Return before Wednesday

First off, let me say that i'm no fan of Apple and I really can't stand Steve Jobs. Yes, i've bought his products, but I hate being told what to do once I give him my money. I like customization. I like options. Hence, I do not like Steve Jobs.
I was very excited about the Xoom. I checked online every day for information about it since it's announcement. I had very high expectations and, even though the price tag was higher than I wanted to pay, I was the first to buy it at my local Best Buy.
Now, with that being said. I'm coming up on my 14 day return policy and am debating if I should keep it. I am new to this forum and have been reading through all the threads and learned a lot. However, in my learnings, I have also found things that concern me.
To start, let me tell you why I bought it. I had an iPad before and I mainly used it for online browsing around the house. For movies when I go on trips. And I wanted to use the Xoom for all of that, but also as my work and personal organizer. For easy access to business plans and work integration.
Here's where I'm having problems. If these are things that I should expect to be fixed with updates over time, then great. If not, then I'll have to find another option.
1) The Tegra Processor. I read on here that the Tegra Processor is what is preventing the Xoom from playing my divx movies. Now, I have gotten them to work on RockPlayer. But it has that watermark in the top left hand corner and my status bar at the bottom of the xoom never fades out. Also, and this is the biggest problem, the quality doesn't look good. It looks like their is a subtle light grid in the background. Almost like the original LCD's you saw in airports back in the day. When I first heard about the Tegra issues, I was just going to return the Xoom and get another Honeycomb tablet, but then I saw that all of the Android Tablets will have one.
2) The Browser. I did the trips where you go into debug mode and tell the Xoom to view all webpages in Desktop mode, but there are still a few sites that will only show me the mobile mode. Also, I like to have my bookmarks sorted by the order in which I visit them, yet the Xoom seems to randomly organize them for me. Kinda annoying.
3) Accessories. The only thing that I loved about my iPad was not the unit, but the Apple portfolio case. The motorola porfotlio case is just bulky, scratches the unit, and the latch is loose at best. I've found some nice leather cases online, but none that fold over and cover the screen. Yes, I have a screen protector. But, even those I can't find a good one with anti-glare.
4) eMail. I use exchange and apparently my work email is one of the ones that won't work on the xoom. I had to get Roadsync, which is okay, but I just prefer to use the default, integrated email/contacts/calendar programs. My EVO is perfect for this.
5) Widgets. Seriously, what's the deal with having cell phone sized widgets on a 10.1" screen. LauncherPro is nice, but still has custom icons like it's a phone, which I find to be in the way.
I know that most of these things seem small. But when you drop $800 on a device because you expect atleast the same functionality as your smaller cell phone, you come to have higher standards. I knew about Flash and the SD card issue going in, but the rest is bothersome. I know i'm an early adapter and with that comes quirks.
In any case, you all are 1000x smarter than me with this thing. I will take whatever advice you have.

1. Touchdown for tablets is great for email.
2. Some sites might not have updated their pages yet.
3. Apple always gets the third party love but more and more products are coming online everyday check Amazon
4. Being this is Google's flagship devise you have to believe this will be supported with updates and the file types should change

OK, first off, I agree with alot of what you have said, your right the software is a bit buggy at this time, again at this time. What you have to consider is that that this is an android device, and by that I mean it does not have all the overage that alot of companies put out on top of the overall software that make it look nice and neat, to include custom apps and infrastructure, but this also means that it is much easier to update. Half the time lost between when an actual Android update comes out and the time it takes for your device to get that update is due to all the crap that the company puts on top of the original Android infrastructure.
Give it a bit of time and I am sure that most of your problems can be worked out to you satisfaction due to them being software and not hardware problems.
Also take into account that since Motorola chose to use this clean interface it makes it much easier to modify by the hacking community , which is definitely something that an iPad cannot due.
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virgil1528 said:
1) The Tegra Processor. I read on here that the Tegra Processor is what is preventing the Xoom from playing my divx movies.
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Any CPU/GPU can play video so long as it supports the right codecs. Have you tried transcoding to a supported codec?

xlGmanlx said:
1. Touchdown for tablets is great for email.
2. Some sites might not have updated their pages yet.
3. Apple always gets the third party love but more and more products are coming online everyday check Amazon
4. Being this is Google's flagship devise you have to believe this will be supported with updates and the file types should change
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Well said.
+1 for Touchdown. It is fantastic for exchange, I use it on both my Evo and Xoom.
If this wasn't a Google Experience device, I'd say your complaints would carry more weight.
However, Google has always done a good job of keeping their GE devices updated and at the forefront.
This device only just came out, I'm fairly sure they will get things handled fairly quickly.
As far as the apps/widgets go. This is still a new device and platform. All android tablets are going to suffer from the same right now. However...again... this issue is largely due to the limited time the device/platform has been available. Within a few weeks...I'm sure we'll see a lot more apps/widgets (even the ipad had limited selection out right). Just think of what it'll be like in a couple of weeks/months with more custom apps/roms/kernels etc...
I had buyers remorse for the first evening...not for any particular reason...and now I can't put it down. Not to mention my wife (who has an iPad), won't shut-up about when she is getting her Xoom
So I would say hang on to it, but that's just me. Do what makes you happy

I've come to the decision that I'll be taking mine back on the 13th day.
I've tried to really give it love and get use out of it, but tablets just don't really fill any niche except "web browsing on the couch".
I'm a sysadmin by day, and although I've carried the Xoom with me every time I step away from my desk, it just hasn't served a single purpose on the job. I had imagined it would be neat to dial into servers using RDP, but the interface is just horrible. I'm much better off just dialing into the server in question at any desk I'm in front of. I'm never more than 8-12 feet from a desktop machine, so there goes that.
Pulse news reader is basically the killer app, but is hardly worth 1000 (799 + tax + extra charger + 129 protection plan against drops for 1yr + case).
Motorola certainly hasn't won me over on the price especially considering I prepaid for it on the first day I could (at two different best buys just to cover bases), and then people who *DIDN'T* do that had a chance at 200 dollars off that was honored in the end. Ridiculous.
I had intended to pick up android development for tablets eventually, but I can hold off and stick with honing my Python until these come way down in price or offer some more functionality.

That's too bad, this has taken over as my laptop and let's me have a mobile office so to speak

For RDP I use Remote RDP light and it works credibly, but if your looking for true RDP functionality then you have to have a mouse and keyboard, and guess what, you bought a tablet with a touch screen interface, you can buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse if you want, but that just means more devices to carry around. A tablet, any tablet, will not be the proper interface for RDP, it can't, it is not a PC with all the perifials. A tablet, as far as RDP is concerned, is a device to do what you have to do when a PC is not around and a cell phone is impractical. As a network administrator I can do some of the emergency things that I need to accomplish while out on the town with my tablet, reading a book, surfing the web, commenting on a blog, watching a movie, all without lugging a laptop.
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Yeah, unless you wanted to leave the mouse and just use the tablet as a touch screen with a keyboard your better off with a laptop. But like you said in a pinch its tough too beat
richardjr said:
For RDP I use Remote RDP light and it works credibly, but if your looking for true RDP functionality then you have to have a mouse and keyboard, and guess what, you bought a tablet with a touch screen interface, you can buy a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse if you want, but that just means more devices to carry around. A tablet, any tablet, will not be the proper interface for RDP, it can't, it is not a PC with all the perifials. A tablet, as far as RDP is concerned, is a device to do what you have to do when a PC is not around and a cell phone is impractical. As a network administrator I can do some of the emergency things that I need to accomplish while out on the town with my tablet, reading a book, surfing the web, commenting on a blog, watching a movie, all without lugging a laptop.
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Keep the tab. U will love it in 6 months when everything is revamped
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Usmc7356 said:
Keep the tab. U will love it in 6 months when everything is revamped
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I don't imagine I'll walk away and never look back, but now I know what they're good for (and not good for) and when the price wars drive these down to 400ish I'll scoop one up again. : /

Not all tablets are create equal, and sometimes it takes having one first hand to validate all the information out there and how it applies to your situation
ixobelle said:
I don't imagine I'll walk away and never look back, but now I know what they're good for (and not good for) and when the price wars drive these down to 400ish I'll scoop one up again. : /
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Return your Xoom and buy it in 6 months for cheaper price
Or probably there will be a new kind of better Honeycomb tablet at that time.
Usmc7356 said:
Keep the tab. U will love it in 6 months when everything is revamped
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codeman05 said:
Well said.
+1 for Touchdown. It is fantastic for exchange, I use it on both my Evo and Xoom.
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I downloaded the free version of Touchdown this morning after reading this thread. Could you explain to me why it is so great? I haven't had time to use it extensively but maybe you can quickly list some advantages over the stock mail client?
Thanks!

I understand your frustration and you ultimately need to do what makes you feel most comfortable. Most of your issues are software related and you know things can only get better with updates. Google has a lot riding on Honeycomb so I expect updates to come fast and often.
1) The Tegra Processor - Seems like your issue is not with the Tegra but with how the codecs handle Divx. Software update could fix this but also developers can do wonders.
2) The Browser - Software update again. The browser is a great starting point and, with some minor tweaks, will be fantastic.
3) Accessories - As more Xooms sell, more 3rd parties will have a business case to make accessories for it. I'm thinking that when the Xoom wifi and Xoom for Europe are released (indications say that will happen at the same time) then we'll see a flood of new 3rd party goodies.
4) eMail - Software update. ALTHOUGH, I'm not 100% sure this is a priority for Google. People complain that they wish the AOSP phones went a step further with their Exchange implementations. Still, the chances are you'll be ok moving forward.
5) Widgets - This is a microcosm of the entire app market right now for Honeycomb. Devs need to start updating their apps with Tablets in mind. Again, more people owning Honeycomb, more reasons for devs to get on it.
The point I'm trying to make is the only way for the Xoom to go is up. As more people buy, more attention the aftermarket will pay to it. If previous Android versions are any indication (and they are,) this is a snowball effect. It'll just get bigger and bigger.

As to the RDP: I use the XtraLogic Remote Desktop app and it works wonderfully, completed designed around the touch interface.
Between Remote Desktop and ConnectBot, I've found a million uses for this as a sysadmin. I don't know how you haven't found a single use for it.

Cool Xoom Story at my Dr's Office Today

I went to see my Spine Surgeon today ( I have a really bad back and need a 2nd Spinal Fusion, Facet Joints this time, I take Percocet 10/325 and HydroMorphone 4mg for Pain). Any ways when I was done and leaving I over heard my Dr. talking to another Dr. about the Motorola Xoom and how he would like one to replace his laptop and the the iPad 2 was out of the question (as he has a Droid X and liked Android). As it happened I had my Xoom with me (I take it everywhere with me and showed it to him and he was VERY impressed and said this is what he was/is looking for. He asked about Google Voice (as that's important for him and I said it will be coming). I explained how Honeycomb was a new OS and needed sometime to grow and he understood and said he did not like iOS. I showed him Evernote and used it with my Stylus Pen and he said he would get one later today
If Dr.s start seeing an advantage of the Xoom/Honeycomb over iPad/iOS, Honeycomb will make a big splash. I also showed his nurse Toy Story 3 and Avatar (Blu-Ray) and she was sold as well.
The Dr. he was talking to asked me if I had Rooted yet ( he obviously knows what's going on and I said No as I had not seen any ROM's worth Rooting for yet) and that the only reason for me to root so far is to Overclock to 1.5ghz. I told him that the SDK or AOSP for Honeycomb had not been released yet but when it does I will definitely Root and start Flashing ROM's/Kernel's. I showed them my Rooted HTC EVO and how I was using it as a Wireless Hotspot (in the Hospital) and they were really impressed.
Suffice it to say but if Dr's are starting to hear about the Xoom/Honeycomb it has major potential (especially in that area). I told him about the HTC Flyer and that it may be worth looking at as well as it may be more to his liking. I told him it was only 7" but he liked the 10" form factor and wanted to replace his laptop and use it while talking with patients

if he has the income, he could probably get them all XD

As great as the Xoom is and the I pad, hospitals will take a while to get behind it due to security. Drs can store Protected Health Information on the device and run the risk or a data breech if lost ormaliciuos software allows access.
At my org there has been talk about the Playbook due to it being on a blackberry platform, but the pressure is out there for them to allow droid and apple tablets which they are trying to delay implimenting.
By the way...I carry my Xoom with me at my hospital and get lots of questions from the docs, butuse it primarily for school so its not on our network

A 2nd fusion - wow. That sucks. I hope this one gets you all set.
We need more folks in the professional sphere to start touting the benefits of android. That will come with time though - apple effectively has a head start on the whole tablet thing, just as it did with popularizing the smart phone, but it won't last. I see android tablets taking this market over as well - once two or three iterations of hardware and software occur.

You DID show him Google Body, didn't you??
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GarnetandBlack said:
A 2nd fusion - wow. That sucks. I hope this one gets you all set.
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Me too bro, me too. Right now I am on Percocet 10/325 and HydroMorphone 4mg (4x a day) and that stuff is VERY, VERY, Strong. The HydroMorphone is 4x more powerful than Morphine. They are going to Fuse my Facet Joints as they have become loose and Arthritic

As a PA for an orthopaedic surgeon I use my xoom a lot. Rdp to our office emr is a snap. The battery life is way better than our office tablet laptops. In fact....just before surgery he asked if I could pull up the office charts on a patient we were getting ready to do surgery on.....I trurned on the EVO hot spot and (I have the wifi only model) I had the chart up in a minute. I don't like ios. He is a Mac guy but I'm slowly winning him over. Its gonna take time but I can tell you after booting the iPhone / ios ill never go back for our needs. I can send scripts to pharmacies, check patient charts ( hospital system and office emr) with the click of three buttons.
Android kills.
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Well I am primary in commerical real estate investing but I also own som retail businesses and I have replaced my laptop with my xoom. So far so good. My biggest complaints are that the office programs are not robust enough, especially on the spreadsheet side (I have quickoffice hd and docs to go full). Also, I think google needs a builtin file manager for the tablet os (one more reason not to have one os for all android devices). Google needs to treat the tablet like a netbook and not like a big phone (like apple does with the ipad).
The portablility is awesome and the beats carrying my laptop around or reading docs and spreadsheets on my epic and blackberry. Basically when need I need to create a spreadsheet or scan something I hope on one of the desktops at the office. Otherwise its zoom. Plus with google cloud print I can even print from the xoom!
Overall its getting there. Make the tablet a laptop replacement not some cool extra toy like the ipad and google will completely capture the business market.
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Should have told him you can use Google Voice but you just need to install the apk.

diablonyc2 said:
As great as the Xoom is and the I pad, hospitals will take a while to get behind it due to security. Drs can store Protected Health Information on the device and run the risk or a data breech if lost ormaliciuos software allows access.
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Fortunately Honeycomb supports encrypted the storage drive so that should not be that big of a problem for Android

Cool Story bro!

Now we just need more tablet compatible apps.

If Google wants to sell its OS to doctors, they really need to come out with some special medicine oriented apps/s. I'm not talking about apps from users or small companies, I am talking about official Google apps like Body.

bet he just wants it for Google Body - https://market.android.com/details?id=com.google.android.apps.body&feature=search_result

diablonyc2 said:
As great as the Xoom is and the I pad, hospitals will take a while to get behind it due to security. Drs can store Protected Health Information on the device and run the risk or a data breech if lost ormaliciuos software allows access.
At my org there has been talk about the Playbook due to it being on a blackberry platform, but the pressure is out there for them to allow droid and apple tablets which they are trying to delay implimenting.
By the way...I carry my Xoom with me at my hospital and get lots of questions from the docs, butuse it primarily for school so its not on our network
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More than likely, they will be using some manner of client/server situation, where the patient data is centralized, and the client just being a dumb terminal. Only have to worry about access control, since no critical data would be stored locally.

FrayAdjacent said:
More than likely, they will be using some manner of client/server situation, where the patient data is centralized, and the client just being a dumb terminal. Only have to worry about access control, since no critical data would be stored locally.
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my thoughts too
you'd not want any data stored on the device - only apps/whatever to get at the data remotely.
problem is you'd then need wifi to corporate network and that may be a big security no-no in some places, unless a vpn solution is incorporated...

It will be interesting to see "what's next" in this field...as governemnt regulations on protecting data become more and more intesne. Client/Server seems to be the best scenario currently through a secured connection.
If someone could build a better mousetrap the market is wide open! It will be interesting to see how the Playbook fairs....could it revive the brand?
As for the Xoom --- love the size of it...cannot wait until I get a good portfolio for it to make carrying around inconspicious! I plan on phasing this in to take the place of my notepad.

tf in ministry

Anyone using your TF in ministry? Particularly in preaching or teaching! If so what programs are you finding useful?

if you consider showing off how android is better and more useful than iOS to Apple fans as preaching or ministry (honestly its not far off!!), then yes I do!

Haven't worked on it much lately, but I started writing a tablet optimized Bible app when I first got the Transformer. At the time there wasn't really anything available that took advantage of the tablet real estate. Search Bible by bedoig in the market.
I haven't looked for good tablet bible apps in a long time. I'd be interested what people are using these days as well.
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Logos has an app that allows me to access my Logos collection from the tablet.
If one does not have Logos (ridiculously expensive! I bought it in seminary many many years ago.) then a good and more affordable alternative is Olive Tree:
I use Kingston office of the stock reader to view the sermon while preaching saving many trees....
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Unfortunately there are not many ministry app available for the transformer. I use Bible from "YouVersion" because it allows you to acces multiple versions of the bible and save many of them on the transformer for offline use. It looks pretty good on the tablet as well. The bad part is there is no real way to save notes along with scripture, or to jump to pre-determined passages (bookmarked passages). Its been awhile since i've looked at ministry apps. As much as i love my transformer and how powerful it is, ive honestly been considering the ipad 3 when it drops simply because of the developer community and the apps it has available. i really dont want to though.

eep02b said:
Unfortunately there are not many ministry app available for the transformer. I use Bible from "YouVersion" because it allows you to acces multiple versions of the bible and save many of them on the transformer for offline use. It looks pretty good on the tablet as well. The bad part is there is no real way to save notes along with scripture, or to jump to pre-determined passages (bookmarked passages). Its been awhile since i've looked at ministry apps. As much as i love my transformer and how powerful it is, ive honestly been considering the ipad 3 when it drops simply because of the developer community and the apps it has available. i really dont want to though.
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I have also been considering the iPad 3 but as you said I really don't want to. My son has an iPad2 and he is using it in ministry and currently using it while preaching or teaching. I have not gotten that comfortable with my TF but I would like to use it more effectively in ministry.

It's not sounding like much has changed since the last time I looked. I like YouVersion on my phone but found it lacking on a tablet. I've looked at Logos and Olivetree in the past as well but they weren't really what I was looking for.
The main reason I started working on one was to have a built in notes pane alongside the bible. I also added scripture identification within the notes to automatically create hyperlinks that open that section of the bible when clicked. I'm not a minister so I was more focused on the note taking scenario, but several ministers have told me they have found it useful.
Might just have to start working on it again since it doesn't seem like the options have improved much.

I'm using it for teaching and preaching currently.
I spend a lot of time at my laptop for work, the dropbox app has been great for syncing my documents between my laptop and my transformer.
I type my messages in Word or Kingston Office/Quickoffice Pro HD. Once they are finished I'll format them for my tablet (increasing font size, changing the margins, bold, highlight, change color and ensure that each page looks appropriate) and then save as a pdf.
There are some excellent pdf viewers out there, but I simply open my messages up with the Kindle app when I'm teaching/preaching. I prefer the swype or tap to navigate vice any scrolling.
I use Cloudprint to print from my tablet when necessary. I used to have a paper copy of my message as a backup just in case something... ahem... went wrong. However, now I just keep my Bible with me and I can pull off a sermon or teach from a prior study in an emergency.
I've added folders to my tablet to keep finished sermons/lessons by using ES File Explorer app (allows folders & shortcuts).
I've changed some of the icons out using ADW Launcher Ex to pretty things up a bit and further customize.
It's quite fun actually. We've got a good sized church 700 folks, so our platform is filled with iPads each service. I'm one of the few with a non iPad tablet but I'm certainly not complaining. LOL!
Hope this helps.
There may be more, but I'm still learning how to get good use out of the TF myself.

I use OliveTree
I do not preach often, but do enjoy OliveTree for my main Bible app. Great for Bible studies as it can have a synced comentary right on screen at the same time as the Bible. Very helpful when someone asks a question about a more elusive verse.

I used a mindmap in the Thinking Space app to preach a sermon when i left my hard copy at home. Went well and no-one noticed.
I only take my Tab to meetings and use calendars and Thinking Space to record notes or decisions.
Use Cardre Bible NRSV
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Also finding that i am leaving the notebook at home and taking the tablet. Just seem to be transitioning to a new mode.
I have orders of service and planning material in a dropbox that i share with a music and worship group. When near wifi it syncs to tablet. Thinking of implementing wifi in church facilities.
I am using more ad more ebooks and also working towards a paperless office. I am scanning articles and important sections of books and having them available with me. It is greatvfir reading/preparing on public transport or while waiting somewhere.
At the home office I can use tablet to read ebooks or pdf docs like a second screen as I prepare oos or sermon.
I am also a psychologist and have a folder for each client. Test and reports are at hand where-ever I am. Have used it when doctors call to check details.
I have parish directory in word format and in dropbox. I can quickly find an address when on the road and have used googlemaps to find my way. Also fiund that i can tap a phone number on my phone and instantly dial.
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There is an app called cam scanner, great at scanning in docs, pictures, whiteboard sessions, etc. and also syncs with dropbox.
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The best app that I have found is one called Mysword. It has numerous bible translations, commentaries, notes, dictionaries, and a huge community that is constantly releasing additional add-ons.

ezPDF might be helpful if you have PDFs of the books/book you need for the things you preach. You can even leave notes on the margin in ezPDF - that might be usefull. (And the post with dinosaur was really funny. )

Personally I would think the usual web/office needs would apply to preaching as much as anything similar; my pastor still uses paper. For bible+notes, I would rather think a Kindle version of your favoured translation would be the best bet. You get stuff for navigation the way a dedicated app could offer, along with the ability at marking and noting stuff that only a PDF file or dedicated bible reader might be able to offer. What would be lacking is the ability to cross reference other translations and sources easily or go straight to specific verses by number. For other books and stuff it should work fine and be less trouble than semi-illegally OCR'ing stuff, when whatever book you're interested in is available in the Kindle market.
As a Christian, I think you folks need to lighten up. Even GOD has a sense of humour, if you know HIM then you know that. If I was one of the people you should be reaching out to as a preacher instead of pushing away with behaviour like this: I'd look at this thread as a reason not to follow our saviour: he has too many people like you following him.
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Joey563 said:
The best app that I have found is one called Mysword. It has numerous bible translations, commentaries, notes, dictionaries, and a huge community that is constantly releasing additional add-ons.
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agree with my sword and yes i use my TF preaching and Teaching even using it in my Sunday school class to watch a video series....
e-sword modules can be converted to be used with my sword i have the
NIV--NKJV---AMP BIble
well i was using it until it died yesterday back to my good ole Leather Nelson Study bible until it returns to me...

@OP and the rest of you guys....please don't feed the troll. Instead report him like is supposed to be done
@tehtroll...don't comeback here mate. If you don't have anything nice to say...keep your opinions to yourself.
Cheers,
M_T_M

Tony Maroney said:
I'm using it for teaching and preaching currently.
I type my messages in Word or Kingston Office/Quickoffice Pro HD. Once they are finished I'll format them for my tablet (increasing font size, changing the margins, bold, highlight, change color and ensure that each page looks appropriate) and then save as a pdf.
This was helpful. I have converted to a pdf but I have not found the right font size or margins, etc. I'll keep trying.
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revjwb32 said:
agree with my sword and yes i use my TF preaching and Teaching even using it in my Sunday school class to watch a video series....
e-sword modules can be converted to be used with my sword i have the
NIV--NKJV---AMP BIble
well i was using it until it died yesterday back to my good ole Leather Nelson Study bible until it returns to me...
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I love e-sword on my laptop. I wish they had an android version. I'll look into converting them. Thanks for the tip. I hope you get you TF back soon.

budven said:
I love e-sword on my laptop. I wish they had an android version. I'll look into converting them. Thanks for the tip. I hope you get you TF back soon.
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Mysword is the android version of esword.

Polaris Office - last straw think the note is going back

Sigh. Just had some disturbing problems with polaris office and I think this may be the straw that causes me to return the note before my date comes up on it. I just post this here in case other people are thinking about purchasing one or want to know its limitations.
I would preface this by saying I absolutely love this note, it works amazing, is fast, light, amazing build and am continually impressed by it. All the shortcomings are more of the android ecosystems issue.
So the issue, Ive been editing documents in Polaris office during meetings, and finally have noticed that polaris has been quietly corrupting my documents. Sure they look good, even edited. But when I open them in Word there are small but aggravating issues. The biggest is it breaks paragraphs, and I have no idea how to fix them in Word.
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I have found other people online and even on XDA complaining about this issue over a year ago, don't know if there is a solution but it doesnt seem like. I also wonder how I would get updates to Polaris (why isnt it in google play?).
Other problems include SNote not quite being up to par, and not being able to find a suitable replacement, although lecturenotes tries hard and may get there. Not being able to find a lot of high quality apps in other categories (e.g. childrens books/learning games). And it not playing nice enough with my groupwise/exchange appointments.
Darn I like this thing. But I keep thinking on the 26th Ill get an amazing SNote replacement (one note) with complete office integration, pluse my email will work fine. Oh and Ill be able to get unlimited learning games on an x86 tablet. Only downside the thing would probably only last 7-10 hours in battery life instead of the 2 days my notes been going. Hmmmmm
Anyone else notice this problem in Polaris? Solution?

Get a different app and keep your Note. Samsung doesn't make Polaris.

hanexs said:
Sigh. Just had some disturbing problems with polaris office and I think this may be the straw that causes me to return the note before my date comes up on it. I just post this here in case other people are thinking about purchasing one or want to know its limitations.
I would preface this by saying I absolutely love this note, it works amazing, is fast, light, amazing build and am continually impressed by it. All the shortcomings are more of the android ecosystems issue.
So the issue, Ive been editing documents in Polaris office during meetings, and finally have noticed that polaris has been quietly corrupting my documents. Sure they look good, even edited. But when I open them in Word there are small but aggravating issues. The biggest is it breaks paragraphs, and I have no idea how to fix them in Word.
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g all disjoined. And Micro
soft says if this happens yo
ur Document is corrupt.
I have found other people online and even on XDA complaining about this issue over a year ago, don't know if there is a solution but it doesnt seem like. I also wonder how I would get updates to Polaris (why isnt it in google play?).
Other problems include SNote not quite being up to par, and not being able to find a suitable replacement, although lecturenotes tries hard and may get there. Not being able to find a lot of high quality apps in other categories (e.g. childrens books/learning games). And it not playing nice enough with my groupwise/exchange appointments.
Darn I like this thing. But I keep thinking on the 26th Ill get an amazing SNote replacement (one note) with complete office integration, pluse my email will work fine. Oh and Ill be able to get unlimited learning games on an x86 tablet. Only downside the thing would probably only last 7-10 hours in battery life instead of the 2 days my notes been going. Hmmmmm
Anyone else notice this problem in Polaris? Solution?
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None of the faux-Office products are great; on the Note or any other Android device. I do OK editing existing documents but the more complex ones (outlines, tables, charts, graphs) can be challenging. I pretty much don't use formatting when I'm creating a documents from scratch and import it in to Word as text and finish it off there. You sound like an excellent candidate for a W8 tablet. Speaking of which, MS has said (via Europe) Office for Android is due late this year via TechNet and early next year generally.

Before you send it back, try this app as it is supposed to resemble MS Word really well, there is a free trial if you give them your email and register your interest:
http://www.softmaker.com/english/ofa_en.htm

hanexs said:
Sigh. Just had some disturbing problems with polaris office and I think this may be the straw that causes me to return the note before my date comes up on it. I just post this here in case other people are thinking about purchasing one or want to know its limitations.
I would preface this by saying I absolutely love this note, it works amazing, is fast, light, amazing build and am continually impressed by it. All the shortcomings are more of the android ecosystems issue.
So the issue, Ive been editing documents in Polaris office during meetings, and finally have noticed that polaris has been quietly corrupting my documents. Sure they look good, even edited. But when I open them in Word there are small but aggravating issues. The biggest is it breaks paragraphs, and I have no idea how to fix them in Word.
For example paragraphs st
art looking like this with th
e wording and word spacin
g all disjoined. And Micro
soft says if this happens yo
ur Document is corrupt.
I have found other people online and even on XDA complaining about this issue over a year ago, don't know if there is a solution but it doesnt seem like. I also wonder how I would get updates to Polaris (why isnt it in google play?).
Other problems include SNote not quite being up to par, and not being able to find a suitable replacement, although lecturenotes tries hard and may get there. Not being able to find a lot of high quality apps in other categories (e.g. childrens books/learning games). And it not playing nice enough with my groupwise/exchange appointments.
Darn I like this thing. But I keep thinking on the 26th Ill get an amazing SNote replacement (one note) with complete office integration, pluse my email will work fine. Oh and Ill be able to get unlimited learning games on an x86 tablet. Only downside the thing would probably only last 7-10 hours in battery life instead of the 2 days my notes been going. Hmmmmm
Anyone else notice this problem in Polaris? Solution?
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Return your Note 10.1, and wait for the Surface.

Another great app worth looking at is OfficeSuite Pro and remember that sNote should receive a very nice update with the JB release that I am hoping/expecting before month's end.

Wait for the 4.1 update and maybe it'll be resolved
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Livebyte said:
Return your Note 10.1, and wait for the Surface.
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If you want to wait on W8 that's all good but bring money. Getting the same level of performance as the SGN10.1 with pen input will cost you many hundreds more.
Don't get the Surface - it's junk with that silly soft keyboard. How the heck do you even use it on your lap? I guess it's called "Surface" because you have to have a flat surface to use it.

Returning a device you love because an app that's available for it sucks? That's ... an interesting decision. You know Samsung's decision to bundle Polaris Office doesn't mean you have to use it, do you?
Softmaker Office is a very popular alternative among XDA members. Last time I looked, they only had the word processor available on the Play store, not spreadsheets, presentations etc. You can probably get them from the developer's website.
There are also plenty of other alternatives. Kingsoft Office gets VERY good reviews on the play store - I'm tempted to try it just from the reviews. OfficeSuite Pro is also apparently good on a tablet.

BarryH_GEG said:
None of the faux-Office products are great; on the Note or any other Android device. I do OK editing existing documents but the more complex ones (outlines, tables, charts, graphs) can be challenging. I pretty much don't use formatting when I'm creating a documents from scratch and import it in to Word as text and finish it off there. You sound like an excellent candidate for a W8 tablet. Speaking of which, MS has said (via Europe) Office for Android is due late this year via TechNet and early next year generally.
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And there are reports (take with grain of salt) that MS will be offering a version of Office Mobile for android.
I just did a round of budgeting at work on my Note 10.1 using OfficeSuite Pro and had no issues. Primarily Excel. No problems with formulas at all.

HasC said:
Before you send it back, try this app as it is supposed to resemble MS Word really well, there is a free trial if you give them your email and register your interest:
http://www.softmaker.com/english/ofa_en.htm
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thanks for the tip. I just got this from the play store and it seems really good so far

Thanks for all the tip. Installed OfficeSuit Pro, and Softmaker and QuickOffice pro. Softmaker worked the best, but none of them had the ability to input with the stylus (e.g. freehand draw) like polaris does. Polaris really sold me on this tablet, I mean sure, it doesnt have onenote, but who needs onenote when i can instantly open the doc from my dropbox, make the notes I need, and finalize when I get back to the office. But it doesnt really look like thats possible yet with polaris corrupting so many files. And if Im going to type out my nights, I have an amazing Lenovo Thinkpad X100e that blows any tablet out of the water for keyboard entry. I was really hoping for stylus support, but the apps just arent here yet, Ill look again on Jelly Bean update, seems like this stylus computer dream has been in waiting for sooo long.
Incidentally my 2 year old daughter really loves the tablet. shes been the one reason I've been wanting to keep it, all the touch games, shes been doing puzzles and books and learning her letters with it, quite amazing. Now I just have to decide what to get her, Nexus is pretty cheap, or there might be some used ipads kicking around with better app support (might as well get a toy to be used as a toy after all).
Samsung made an awesome piece of hardware here, all the talk about it feeling cheap is wrong, its slick, fast, small, light and just awesome to hold. Just wish it had some better app support. Soon hopefully.

Get 7Notes with mazec. It's an HWR keyboard you Can use almost everywhere.

Here's the thing MS has for years worked real hard to keep their office suite and word processing software proprietary and have been quite sucsessful at this. So any time you try to use a system that is not controled by MS with MS software you will find this problem to some extent. Whether it is a tablet, laptop or desktop. This is one of the reasons I refuse to use MS products, but that is me. What all this means to you is until you find a MS compatible tablet running MS software that MS has said is compatible with their office suite you will have these problems. On top of that there is (as yet) no evidence that a Windows tablet will be 100% compatible with all Windows software. In fact there are reports that there will be programs that would run on Win 7 that are not expected to run on Win 8.
My question to you is do you want the features of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.0 or do you want to give up those features and hope a MS Windows machine will fulfill your needs without compromises? I personally have never seen an OS or a computing device that did not have compromises.

Think I read last night Microsoft are releasing office for android soon.

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Sparksltd said:
Think I read last night Microsoft are releasing office for android soon.
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... and today they denied the statement.

smrsxn said:
... and today they denied the statement.
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It's coming...just like a lot of their Xbox live features made their way to the iOS ecosystem. Of course they denied their slip, it is just a few weeks until their new tablets become available. I am sure a big selling point of Surface and other Win 8 tabs will be the availability of MS Office products, if they did not deny the rumors; those who were going to switch from iOS and Android because of Office would have just stayed with their current devices instead of dropping $$$ on MS's new Hardware. MS is smart, they know they can penetrate other ecosystems with their products. They will just wait until the hype surrounding Windows 8 and Windows 8 RT dies down so that they can capitalize on hardware sales out of the gate.
Having said that, I dropped my PC and have moved on to just using the GN10.1. I am a freelance journalist, and I do all of my writing on the tablet. Polaris is good, but Office Suite Pro 6 is excellent. I have zero problems creating and editing pieces in .doc format. It just works.

Its back and I already miss it! lol
The microsoft atoms should be able to fill what I need, but I suspect they'll have their own problems. Still, samsungs making one with a keyboard dock and s-pen. Might be enticing.
The other office programs worked better, but they didnt have the ability to free draw on top of the document like polaris has. I want a tablet because in my many meetings, when someone is commenting or we are discussing a plan, I want to quickly mark it up. I can go back to my top to do the real work, but the thoughts I'd like to write, directly on the document in question. I can't do that in snote because my pc cant modify snote. And if I have to type it I'll just bring my netbook. Has anyone found an office program that works well with an ability to free draw? I bought a few last night but couldnt find one.
I may get a note 10.1 again in a couple months, who knows the app I need might be in development

Using the Note as a teaching aid

Hi,
I have started using a note 10.1 as a teaching aid, although I dont think I have been doing it the right way round.
I was using it to control my desktop so I could move slides on the interactive whiteboard, this became tedious as it was too slow and just a glorified mousepad.
In the new term I want to pair it up with a allshare cast hub, after using it at home a lot most of the tool I have on the whiteboard are already on the note, but better on the note. My intention is to sit with the students rather than stand at the front, I do this for most of the lesson anyway.
Recently I went on the Google Certified Teacher course and it has changed my teaching a fair bit, I use Google drive to upload all my lessons and the students can move at their own pace as they ALL have chromebooks (apart from the ones who have used said chromebooks to hit others round the head with on the bus on the way home.....they are still waiting for screen repairs).
My question is does anyone else do this? I did notice a couple of people post in other threads that they use them for teaching. I think this really is the way forward in the classroom. Most of the other teachers think I am mad for refusing an ipad - most also dont know much about using technology and wouldnt know an apk from an xls. I teach maths, any advice or discussion on how we can use these really well in the classroom would be great.
Thanks BTW for all the great info on here, I may even root my note 2 soon as its now out of warranty, I have no intention of replacing this though as think its pretty much the pinnacle of phones in their current design, maybe the note 4 will tempt me but doubt it. I have used this type of kit since the psion, then the XDA (htc) with win mobile, then the dark side for a short interlude, so glad I have control of my tech again :good:

How could it be out of warranty? You have a year unless you have voided it some how
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pierrekid said:
How could it be out of warranty? You have a year unless you have voided it some how
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Because I have had it over a year, I was referring to my note 2, hence the comment "I may even root my note 2".

redsurfbus said:
My question is does anyone else do this?
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While there appears to be a couple of people here that use these for teaching, I would be fairly certain that you are definitely a trailblazer of sorts on this extensive of use in the classroom. I love the idea and will definitely keep an eye out for what you are able to accomplish. My mother is a first grade teacher and is constantly having me set up more things that allow her to better utilize the tools at her disposal. This will be a thread that I want to watch for sure.
That said, sorry that I cannot be of more help.
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I will give you an idea of what I do at present.
When I set a lesson up it is aimed at the level of the class, which is generally more specific than a topic in a text book. I know what the students (majority!) are missing in terms of skills for a particular topic, and where I want to get them. This is often different to what is written in the text book. Text books do not cover misconceptions very well, I like to set certain questions up knowing exactly the wrong answers that will be given, purposely setting traps in a way.
So I set up my lesson using the 'interactive' books and other resources I have designed myself. Specifically cutting and pasting what I want, and shifting round into an order that I want. This then is exported from the interactive whiteboard software to pdf, then uploaded into the class shared google drive folder. Ultimately I want to start the class off at the front, some will race away and be pages ahead of others, some will be slower than the majority so both of these groups have their chromebooks to follow the lesson at their pace. The majority follows me at, or rather I judge the pace of the majority and work to it so perhaps I follow them,
The note comes into play when I am moving around the room, I can demo misconceptions as they crop up, show worked examples and get students to write these up on the board without getting out of their seats. One thing that I do miss is the equation editing function in Snote, this would have been perfect for the higher grades to see equations balancing and to play with themselves. I can of course still use my phone to do this as well, but the students tell me off for getting my phone out as they are not allowed......I tell them its not a phone, its a tablerone.....or a phablet.....you choose

Ok so a little background on my job. I currently work for the ONLY school in the world (confirmed by Samsung South Korea) that is at a full 1:1 ratio with the Galaxy Note 10.1 GT-N8013 and I am the admin running everything behind the scenes. We currently have 800+ Galaxy note 10.1 in our student and staff's hands. EVERYONE in our building has a tablet including TA's, ILC TA's, Kitchen Staff, Before and After School staff and our building engineer. We use the tablets 75%-90% of the day. It just depends on what grade level you are talking about (K-5). The tablets have been used for the last year and a half and they are used in EVERY subject, the students also take the tablets home everyday. On top of that we are also running a Samsung School Demo http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/education/samsungschool Now with this demo we have a 75-inch and 65-inch touchscreen TV and 55 students with 3 teachers running the demo. This tool is AMAZING for our students, they keep the students engaged and that was one of the points. We also have Promethean boards in every classroom.... With an Allshare Cast Dongle and ATV Pro VGA to HDMI converter we use all of our basic VGA projectors to mirror the devices on the board and with a PC hooked up to Computer 2 VGA input we are able to run the interactive whiteboard samsung provides. Our goal is to be TOTALLY wireless this next school year. And the school district I work in is an APPLE district they ONLY offer the iPad for school purchases, so I know the feeling even our district CIO was like WTF are you doing. When we gave him a galaxy note 10.1 he quickly shut up and was like OH WOW this thing is powerfull we are actually working on a deal with Samsung to replace or drop the price for the 2014 edition and we trade in the 2012 edition..... so far things are looking very good. I am actually traveling to the US HQ in New Jersey this summer to get some certified training and higher level talks about support. PM me if you have any questions that way we aren't taking up to many resources on the actual forum.

Thanks for the input Mike. We are the worlds first 1:1 chromebook school, like yourselves the students take these home. I think they are too fragile but they are changing the way the students learn although not too many teachers are yet fully realising the resources available. I teach 11-18, mainly focussed at 15/16 year olds taking their GCSE in the UK.
I think the discussion should be public on the forum so others can join in.
How are the devices linked to the promethean boards? Mine is a cambridge/starboard. I tried to use Teamviewer but the transfer of data would turn a circle drawn on the tablet into a polygon on the board. Also the input on the note would only input to the cursor position on the software on the pc (hope you understand what I mean).
I did not try with the allshare cast fully, it was a demo from Samsung where I had about a week to try it, with a full teaching timetable and mock exams to mark I didnt make the most of it, but I did go out shortly after Christmas to buy this note as I much preferred it to an ipad - this is my own and not the schools though.
Is there software for the note that we can use through the allshare or are apps like ezpdf / snote / lecture notes suitable?
Ultimately I dont think the hardware is a concern, whether it is a chromebook or a note (the note is the better option) or an ipad. It is the use of the resources. Recently I have forced myself to start with cloud computing a lot more and where I used to think it was a step backwards using google sheets I now realise its a leap forward when you bring scripts into the mix, especially with forms for collecting results and setting questions.
I can see a massive market in apps for education, very simple topic based apps for revision, if any devs are interested I have the maths expertise and pedagogy but no time to develop at the moment......
It would be nice to see Samsung produce a full educational tool (discounted, or perhaps marketed with select advertising), not a mass market tablet/chromebook etc. Whichever company manages this first will take over the market I think.

redsurfbus said:
I will give you an idea of what I do at present.
When I set a lesson up it is aimed at the level of the class, which is generally more specific than a topic in a text book. I know what the students (majority!) are missing in terms of skills for a particular topic, and where I want to get them. This is often different to what is written in the text book. Text books do not cover misconceptions very well, I like to set certain questions up knowing exactly the wrong answers that will be given, purposely setting traps in a way.
So I set up my lesson using the 'interactive' books and other resources I have designed myself. Specifically cutting and pasting what I want, and shifting round into an order that I want. This then is exported from the interactive whiteboard software to pdf, then uploaded into the class shared google drive folder. Ultimately I want to start the class off at the front, some will race away and be pages ahead of others, some will be slower than the majority so both of these groups have their chromebooks to follow the lesson at their pace. The majority follows me at, or rather I judge the pace of the majority and work to it so perhaps I follow them,
The note comes into play when I am moving around the room, I can demo misconceptions as they crop up, show worked examples and get students to write these up on the board without getting out of their seats. One thing that I do miss is the equation editing function in Snote, this would have been perfect for the higher grades to see equations balancing and to play with themselves. I can of course still use my phone to do this as well, but the students tell me off for getting my phone out as they are not allowed......I tell them its not a phone, its a tablerone.....or a phablet.....you choose
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What is the whiteboard app you use? I am going to be teaching english in china next year and think I could use the note as a great teaching tool.
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Duly.noted said:
What is the whiteboard app you use? I am going to be teaching english in china next year and think I could use the note as a great teaching tool.
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You can use whatever you need. Snote, lecture notes etc.
I tend to import my older smartboard docs to PDF, then use these to write over.
The key to all of this is google drive, using the forms, and sheets on here.
Have a look at the forms on google drive, you can set up question sheets with ease, self marking or multiple choice, all answers go straight into a spreadsheet for data. As a teacher in the UK I spend more time inputting data now than I do planning lessons (which is wrong!!!), google forms allows me to plan the lesson and get the data automatically. Designing the form is part of lesson planning. Once done of course they are reusable unlike photocopied worksheets.
All of this requires students to have access to a device, many school now allow a 'bring you own device' concept so a lot can access this stuff on their smartphones. The school I work at (http://www.ipaca.uk.com/) has 1:1 chromebooks that the students take home.

redsurfbus said:
You can use whatever you need. Snote, lecture notes etc.
I tend to import my older smartboard docs to PDF, then use these to write over.
The key to all of this is google drive, using the forms, and sheets on here.
Have a look at the forms on google drive, you can set up question sheets with ease, self marking or multiple choice, all answers go straight into a spreadsheet for data. As a teacher in the UK I spend more time inputting data now than I do planning lessons (which is wrong!!!), google forms allows me to plan the lesson and get the data automatically. Designing the form is part of lesson planning. Once done of course they are reusable unlike photocopied worksheets.
All of this requires students to have access to a device, many school now allow a 'bring you own device' concept so a lot can access this stuff on their smartphones. The school I work at (http://www.ipaca.uk.com/) has 1:1 chromebooks that the students take home.
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Hmmm thats pretty cool. I've been contemplating methods for teaching while over there. They put a huge emphasis on the rules of the language. Grammatically I doubt I can keep up with some of them. Where they tend to fall short is the actual conversational application of the language. Took 4 months to teach a foreign girl the concept of sarcasm. I was thinking that writing semtences on the fly that they could read off of a board and guiding them through the nuances of the language would be more help than yet another class teaching just the rules.
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Duly.noted said:
Hmmm thats pretty cool. I've been contemplating methods for teaching while over there. They put a huge emphasis on the rules of the language. Grammatically I doubt I can keep up with some of them. Where they tend to fall short is the actual conversational application of the language. Took 4 months to teach a foreign girl the concept of sarcasm. I was thinking that writing semtences on the fly that they could read off of a board and guiding them through the nuances of the language would be more help than yet another class teaching just the rules.
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Haha, it has taken me so far 7 years to get my GF who is Polish to understand sarcasm. It is a nuance that is lost on many, and offensive to others yet often the sharpest form of wit

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Haha, it has taken me so far 7 years to get my GF who is Polish to understand sarcasm. It is a nuance that is lost on many, and offensive to others yet often the sharpest form of wit
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I think that english humor is severely lost on most other people. But, it's beneficial for someone looking to operate in an international business environment, hence china's huge import of native enlglish teachers. What really amazes me is that these schools don't require you to speak any chinese!!
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Thanks for the input Mike. We are the worlds first 1:1 chromebook school, like yourselves the students take these home. I think they are too fragile but they are changing the way the students learn although not too many teachers are yet fully realising the resources available. I teach 11-18, mainly focussed at 15/16 year olds taking their GCSE in the UK.
I think the discussion should be public on the forum so others can join in.
How are the devices linked to the promethean boards? Mine is a cambridge/starboard. I tried to use Teamviewer but the transfer of data would turn a circle drawn on the tablet into a polygon on the board. Also the input on the note would only input to the cursor position on the software on the pc (hope you understand what I mean). As far as connecting goes...here you go. We use Basic VGA Projectors, we can go fancy, but it is just way to expensive to replace every VGA projector in our building with a HDMI projector. We basically have an Allshare Cast Dongle connected to ATV PRO http://www.amazon.com/Kanex-ATVPRO-AirPlay-Mirroring-Projector/dp/B0082AFROO which is connected to the VGA. And because HDMI is an All in one Sound/Video. The ATV PRO has an Audio out plug that we connect the Promethean speakers to. With the allshare cast dongle we are able to manually show student tablets on the screen. I found http://www.bestbuy.com/site/rocketf...iver/7511057.p?id=1218851304131&skuId=7511057 a RocketFish Miracast that is suppose to mirror the WHOLE device like the allshare cast does, but finding one here local is HARD! The RocketFish is half the price of the Samsung Allshare Cast and does everything the Samsung one does. But the price is $100 to outfit our classrooms with an allshare cast and ATV pro, compared to $1000+ for projector upgrades per classroom and $70 per room for the allshare cast
I did not try with the allshare cast fully, it was a demo from Samsung where I had about a week to try it, with a full teaching timetable and mock exams to mark I didnt make the most of it, but I did go out shortly after Christmas to buy this note as I much preferred it to an ipad - this is my own and not the schools though. Most school districts at least here in the States will reimburse you for a "school" purchase, see if yours will do that and then you can go out and buy one.
Is there software for the note that we can use through the allshare or are apps like ezpdf / snote / lecture notes suitable? The Allshare Cast Dongle will totally mirror your device. If you are playing a game or watching a movie........ EVERYTHING you do on your tablet is mirrored to your screen including taking pictures or videos. All apps work with the allshare cast.
Ultimately I dont think the hardware is a concern, whether it is a chromebook or a note (the note is the better option) or an ipad. It is the use of the resources. Recently I have forced myself to start with cloud computing a lot more and where I used to think it was a step backwards using google sheets I now realise its a leap forward when you bring scripts into the mix, especially with forms for collecting results and setting questions.Yes this is true. Our school district is a GOOGLE APPS District and the push for Google APPS this year is amazing. I also thought it was a step backwards, but it saves SO many resources..... less printing, lost papers, forgot homework at home. Those are no longer excuses the students make.
I can see a massive market in apps for education, very simple topic based apps for revision, if any devs are interested I have the maths expertise and pedagogy but no time to develop at the moment......Very True! According to Samsung and Google the Google for Education Play store was suppose to be open to ALL samsung devices by the end of Feb.....well it is here now and there is no sign of this Education Store. So if you are using anything android a VPP program is not available right now or even the near future. Apple was smart about getting their edu store up and running with VPP (Volume Purchasing Program)
It would be nice to see Samsung produce a full educational tool (discounted, or perhaps marketed with select advertising), not a mass market tablet/chromebook etc. Whichever company manages this first will take over the market I think. I actually had a dinner meeting with National Director Enterprise Sales for Samsung last week. And that was one of the discussion points. The WHOLE education market needs a makeover with Samsung, they have beautiful devices, cutting edge tech, but when you pump out 125 products in 1 fiscal year..... how do you market it? How do you even support that!

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Duly.noted said:
I think that english humor is severely lost on most other people. But, it's beneficial for someone looking to operate in an international business environment, hence china's huge import of native enlglish teachers. What really amazes me is that these schools don't require you to speak any Chinese
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A own an English school in China and though I can speak some Chinese, in class, I only speak English. It forces the student to think and process the language differently rather than relying on translation. Naturally, it means that teachers really need to think outside the box when trying to explain new language points or concepts but I have found that in the long run, the students ability to use and comprehend the language is much better. That said, each student has their own way to learn and process language, so this method doesn't work for everyone (though in my 12 years in China, most do well after an initial adjustment period).
Using the N10. 1 in the class would be awesome....my mind is full of new ideas....thanks too all in this thread for the inspiration. :good:

Belligerance said:
A own an English school in China and though I can speak some Chinese, in class, I only speak English. It forces the student to think and process the language differently rather than relying on translation. Naturally, it means that teachers really need to think outside the box when trying to explain new language points or concepts but I have found that in the long run, the students ability to use and comprehend the language is much better. That said, each student has their own way to learn and process language, so this method doesn't work for everyone (though in my 12 years in China, most do well after an initial adjustment period).
Using the N10. 1 in the class would be awesome....my mind is full of new ideas....thanks too all in this thread for the inspiration. :good:
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Aah Can't wait to get out there myself. I'm going to work for a stunt company but after that ends trading to stay there awhile
my SM-P900 using XDA Premium HD app is awesome !

I teach English, IELTS and SAT at a school Bangkok, Thailand. All we have is wifi and overhead projectors connected to PCs. I have a Note 10.1 2014 which I use with MirrorOp Pro for Galaxy to mirror my tablet screen on the overhead projector through a PC. Works great. The sender software is $10 on Google Play and the receiver software (for PC) is free. This is a great way to do presentations while walking around the room monitoring students.