Anyone able to test if it will work? Or have any insight into whether it will or won't? (Have the necessary antennae etc)
what band does t-mobile use ? the DHD is 900/2100
Taken from here
3G (UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+) service by T-Mobile exclusively uses the AWS 1700/2100 MHz frequency-band, making it incompatible with other existing 3G UMTS/HSPA networks already established in the United States. On the 5th of January 2010, T-Mobile announced that it has upgraded its entire 3G network to HSPA 7.2 Mbit/s which is an improvement from its previous peak of 3.6 Mbit/s. T-Mobile also said that it plans to be the first U.S. carrier to deploy HSPA+ across its network by mid 2010. T-Mobile has finished HSPA+ trials in Philadelphia and has begun deploying HSPA+ across its network, HSPA+ is still available in Philadelphia. HSPA+ 21 service is now available to over 100 Million POPS.
Frequencies used on the T-Mobile USA Network
Frequency Protocol Class Notes
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G Non-native accessible via roaming agreement
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G Largest network in the United States
1700/2100 MHz UMTS/WCDMA/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G Uses AWS Auctioned Spectrum
I've seen a lot of isues with phones on t-mobile locked on EDGE speed...
I was wondering if my phone, a galaxy s international (french) was compatible with 3G or maybe H+.
I can't seems to find any good informations...
Wikipedia : Dual band CDMA2000/EV-DO Rev. A 800 and 1,900 MHz;
WiMAX 2.5 to 2.7 GHz;
802.16e 2.5G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE): 850, 900, 1,700, 1,800, 1,900, and 2,100 MHz;
3G (HSDPA 7.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s): 900, 1,900, and 2,100 MHz;
but i think it include every version
Unfortunately your phone won't get 3G but you can get AT&T 3G. It's weird you have 1700 MHz 2G. I wonder if that could be unlocked for 3G? That's the only 3G frequency you are missing.
If you are asking about T-Mobile in the U.S. then perhaps...T-Mo/USA is re-farming some 1900 MHz for 3G operation in some select cities/locales. And your phone does support 900/1900/2100 MHz 3G, so in theory, and if in certain locations, then yes, you may be able T-Mo 3G via 1900 MHz.
From the press release:
As part of the company’s network modernization effort, T-Mobile also plans to launch 4G HSPA+ service in the 1900 MHz band in a large number of markets by the end of the year.
http://www.airportal.de/
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/07/tmob...omers-off-2g-network-with-upgrade-incentives/
I've heard about Los Angeles, New York City, Miami, Boston, Washington DC and there have been individual reports from many other locales.
AT&T does also have 3G on 1900 MHz in some locales: http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
But I am not sure if they have ceded some of these to T-Mo as part of the failed merger, and/or transitioned those to 850 MHz?
Both AT&T and T-Mo do offer pre-paid SIMs and services - and there are some MVNOs like StraightTalk reselling AT&T and T-Mo network access.
Hello all,
I've seen a few similar posts on this topic, but none that seem to answer my question.
I had a Nexus 5 in the past, which was compatible with all US Carrier bands. So I'm curious how it works with the Note 4 (Snapdragon version).
I've noticed people saying the T-Mobile version is the one to get, because it may come unlocked. If this is the case, what other carriers is it optimally compatible with?
Please feel free to throw in more info and educate me!
Any takers?
The Tmobile verson will have at least these bands.
GSM 850/1900
HSDPA Band 2/5/1/4
LTE 2/4/5/12/17/(29 download only)
Go here for LTE networks. Then scroll to North America. This will give you the frequencies for the bands.
Go here for the HSDPA/UMTS bands.
Here are the frequencies for North American carriers. Match them up. You will find that the Tmobile version is most compatible with ATT and ATT mvno's. Keep in mind that there are 3 blocks to the 700mhz lte band so they are NOT the same. It will not work on that verizon band. Also CDMA networks will not work.
AT&T: GSM+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz & 1900MHz, 4G: 700MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz
Verizon: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz & 1900MHz, 4G: 700MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz (planned)
Sprint: CDMA+WiMax+LTE, 2G/3G: 800MHz & 1900Mhz, 4G: 800MHz & 1900MHz (LTE), 2500MHz (WiMax)
T-Mobile: GSM+LTE, 2G/3G: 1900MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
US Cellular: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz, 1900MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
Metro PCS: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 1700MHz/2100MHz, 1900MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
Cricket: CDMA, 2G/3G: 1900MHz (now uses ATT LTE bands)
mircury said:
The Tmobile verson will have at least these bands.
GSM 850/1900
HSDPA Band 2/5/1/4
LTE 2/4/5/12/17/(29 download only)
Go here for LTE networks. Then scroll to North America. This will give you the frequencies for the bands.
Go here for the HSDPA/UMTS bands.
Here are the frequencies for North American carriers. Match them up. You will find that the Tmobile version is most compatible with ATT and ATT mvno's. Keep in mind that there are 3 blocks to the 700mhz lte band so they are NOT the same. It will not work on that verizon band. Also CDMA networks will not work.
AT&T: GSM+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz & 1900MHz, 4G: 700MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz
Verizon: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz & 1900MHz, 4G: 700MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz (planned)
Sprint: CDMA+WiMax+LTE, 2G/3G: 800MHz & 1900Mhz, 4G: 800MHz & 1900MHz (LTE), 2500MHz (WiMax)
T-Mobile: GSM+LTE, 2G/3G: 1900MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
US Cellular: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz, 1900MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
Metro PCS: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 1700MHz/2100MHz, 1900MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
Cricket: CDMA, 2G/3G: 1900MHz (now uses ATT LTE bands)
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Thanks for the info, even though I admit, it's super confusing.
Do all bands need to be supported for it to work properly with a carrier?
Will not supporting some be detrimental for speed or coverage?
I'm assuming there are many versions of this phone being made. I was hoping manufacturers were moving to more of a universal radio standard.
xiton said:
Thanks for the info, even though I admit, it's super confusing.
Do all bands need to be supported for it to work properly with a carrier?
Will not supporting some be detrimental for speed or coverage?
I'm assuming there are many versions of this phone being made. I was hoping manufacturers were moving to more of a universal radio standard.
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Some phones will work for voice but not for data on other carriers. (GSM compatibility) Others you can get LTE data but no voice. So yes, not having certain bands does hurt. On top of that a carrier may be using only certain bands in your city and if you don't have those you are in bad shape.
mircury said:
The Tmobile verson will have at least these bands.
GSM 850/1900
HSDPA Band 2/5/1/4
LTE 2/4/5/12/17/(29 download only)
Go here for LTE networks. Then scroll to North America. This will give you the frequencies for the bands.
Go here for the HSDPA/UMTS bands.
Here are the frequencies for North American carriers. Match them up. You will find that the Tmobile version is most compatible with ATT and ATT mvno's. Keep in mind that there are 3 blocks to the 700mhz lte band so they are NOT the same. It will not work on that verizon band. Also CDMA networks will not work.
AT&T: GSM+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz & 1900MHz, 4G: 700MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz
Verizon: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz & 1900MHz, 4G: 700MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz (planned)
Sprint: CDMA+WiMax+LTE, 2G/3G: 800MHz & 1900Mhz, 4G: 800MHz & 1900MHz (LTE), 2500MHz (WiMax)
T-Mobile: GSM+LTE, 2G/3G: 1900MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
US Cellular: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz, 1900MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
Metro PCS: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 1700MHz/2100MHz, 1900MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
Cricket: CDMA, 2G/3G: 1900MHz (now uses ATT LTE bands)
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Thanks mircury.
On a related note, I'm planning to eventually purchase a Note Edge, unlock it from T-Mobile and take a vacation to the Philippines but use a local sim.
Based on the wiki link you provided, Philippines has the following frequencies/bands:
850/5
1800/3
2100/1
The T-Mobile frequencies you listed are:
T-Mobile: GSM+LTE, 2G/3G: 1900MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
Does that mean it will indeed be possible for me to use an unlocked T-Mobile branded Note Edge with a local Philippines sim ?
(I had thought about purchasing an international version of the phone, but based on having T-Mobile, it seems their branded phone would work within the U.S. and Philippines(local sim)).
You should be fine. Gsm 850 will get you voice and umts 2100 should get you data.
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mircury said:
The Tmobile verson will have at least these bands.
GSM 850/1900
HSDPA Band 2/5/1/4
LTE 2/4/5/12/17/(29 download only)
Go here for LTE networks. Then scroll to North America. This will give you the frequencies for the bands.
Go here for the HSDPA/UMTS bands.
Here are the frequencies for North American carriers. Match them up. You will find that the Tmobile version is most compatible with ATT and ATT mvno's. Keep in mind that there are 3 blocks to the 700mhz lte band so they are NOT the same. It will not work on that verizon band. Also CDMA networks will not work.
AT&T: GSM+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz & 1900MHz, 4G: 700MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz
Verizon: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz & 1900MHz, 4G: 700MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz (planned)
Sprint: CDMA+WiMax+LTE, 2G/3G: 800MHz & 1900Mhz, 4G: 800MHz & 1900MHz (LTE), 2500MHz (WiMax)
T-Mobile: GSM+LTE, 2G/3G: 1900MHz, 1700MHz/2100MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
US Cellular: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 850MHz, 1900MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
Metro PCS: CDMA+LTE, 2G/3G: 1700MHz/2100MHz, 1900MHz. 4G: 1700MHz/2100MHz
Cricket: CDMA, 2G/3G: 1900MHz (now uses ATT LTE bands)
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So in the US it's showing AT&T uses bands 17, 4 and 2. Tmobile has those bands in its N4. So a Tmobile branded N4 should pull LTE exactly as an AT&T branded N4 would, correct?
Also band 4 shows 3 variations, 1700abe, 1700d and 1700e, which one of these does the tmobile have, or does it not matter? Tmobile shows 1700d, 1700e and 1700f, but not 1700abe. Also AT&T 700 is bc, but Tmobile 700 is a.
Thanks.
Yes, the tmobile n4 should get att lte fine just like the tmobile n3, s4 and s5 before it. You are correct that the 700mhz block that tmobile purchased from Verizon is different than the other blocks att has. However, since samsung puts the same hardware and radios in both the att and tmobile version, the one you buy from tmobile will have the added benefit of receiving those other 700mhz blocks.
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mircury said:
Yes, the n4 should get att lte fine just like the n3, s4 and s5 before it. You are correct that the 700mhz block that tmobile purchased from Verizon is different than the other blocks att has. However, since samsung puts the same hardware and radios in both the att and tmobile version, the one you buy from tmobile will have the added benefit of receiving those other 700mhz blocks.
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Thanks! Great to know the Tmobile one will function exactly the same as the ATT one on the ATT network. No worries about the locked bootloader for me at least.
mircury said:
You should be fine. Gsm 850 will get you voice and umts 2100 should get you data.
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Great! Thank you for the confirmation. I initially was worried that if I got the T-Mobile version I'd have fast LTE speeds here but slow in Philippines(with the local sim).
But when I considered getting the International version, I'd have fast speeds there, but not here in the U.S. This puts me more at ease.
Is there anyway to enable 1700 AWS /LTE on the 910C using QPST?
I know a few phones have benefited from a QPST modification in the past.
I'm interested in the Exynos Note 4 and would like to use with tmobile however I wonder if there's a way to enable all of the tmobile bands to work to ensure 100% network phone & data coverage compatibility.
It seems the only issue tmobile has is the missing 1700 band for 3G aws, 4G aws & LTE.
Is there a way to enable the 1700 band on the 910C using QPST?
According to Tmobile....
tmobile said:
T-Mobile network coverage
Created by tmo_ian on Oct 16, 2012 8:55 AM. Last modified by tmo_kim on Sep 3, 2015 3:37 PM.
Voice over LTE (VoLTE)
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Switch between 4G VoLTE and Wi-Fi without dropping a call!
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Frequencies: Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz), Band 12 (700 MHz)
4G (HSPA+)
With 4G, theoretical maximum download speeds range from 21 Mbps up to 42 Mbps. You can take advantage of incredibly fast download speeds, and even use voice and data services at the same time.
Frequencies: Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
3G (HSPA)
With 3G, theoretical maximum download of 14 Mbps. With 3G, you can use voice and data services simultaneously.
Frequencies: Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
2G (GSM, GPRS, and EDGE)
EDGE, our enhanced 2G service, delivers a theoretical maximum download speed of 236 kbps. GPRS, our 2G service, delivers a theoretical maximum download speed of 114 kbps. Typical speeds are between 35 kbps and 45 kbps. Keep in mind, voice and data services cannot work simultaneously when on GPRS or EDGE.**
Frequencies: Band 2 (1900 MHz)
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and the 910C specs seem to be:
Thetaylor310 said:
According to GSM Arena, the following LTE bands are set to work on the N910C (i have it too):
700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600 MHz
(Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20) - N910F, N910C
And according to the providers' link given by B.Diddy, the major US LTE bands are the following:
Verizon:
- Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
- Band 5 (850 MHz)
- Band 13 (700 MHz)
Sprint:
- Band 25 (1900 MHz)
- Band 26 (800 MHz)
AT&T:
- Band 2 (1900 MHz)
- Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
- Band 5 (850 MHz)
- Band 12&17 (700 MHz)
T-Mobile:
- Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
- Band 12 (700 MHz)
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I have the same situation. Have you fix it for your 910C? What is QPST and what should I do? Thanks in advance.