Slingbox vs Vulkano - Droid X General

For anyone who is interested, I have both a Slingbox Pro & a Hava/Monsoon/Vulkano Pro.
Both of these devices have Android players available to stream live TV to your phone although the Vulkano app is a free DL & the Sling app is $30 (it should be free)
These two devices are completely different & each has distinct advantages over the other. The Vulkano records to a 1 TB hard drive so it works as a DVR but only at 720p resolution & if you want to watch it on your phone you need to record at an even lower resolution.
The Slingbox has two tuners in it, which is really handy as I can hook my High Def cable box to one tuner & basic cable to the other. I can then watch a different channel on the phone than the home TV is set on. The Slingbox will work fine with no TV connection at all, which is a HUGE advantage over the Vulkano which has no internal tuner at all.
The Vulcano HAS to be hooked to a TV & then it only provides a 720p signal to the TV which is a noticeable downgrade in picture quality on my 50" LCD TV. It does provide really good quality streaming video quality however, better than the Slingbox on the phone.
So basically, the Vulkano gives a better image on your phone, but degrades the image on the TV it's hooked to. The Slingbox doesn't need a TV connection at all, but doesn't record & charges for the software app.

there is a way to get free app for sling, sorta if you subscribe to dish i believe their dish app connects to their sling adapter and you can sling for free as long as you are subscribed to their satellite service, one thing i am sure of they have an android app because i have seen it in the market and its free.

Which one will let you burn the show to a disc from your laptop? Or add items already on your dvr to the device to take and watch?
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btucker2003 said:
Which one will let you burn the show to a disc from your laptop? Or add items already on your dvr to the device to take and watch?
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You can do both with the Vulkano.
I also had the slingbox pro and it was giving me a jacked up pic on Win 7, tried everything (some posts said to change win themes, etc.- none of it worked, which is why I got a Vulkano).
The only real drawbacks to the Vulkano are that it doesn't record to your PC in HD and only passes 720p resolution to the TV (from what I've read- not a big deal if you have an HDMI cable running to your TV and component running to the Vulkano, which I do), and it only has capability for one video input at a time (so no hooking up your DVD player and TV at the same time).
One of the cool features of the Vulkano is that you can record whatever program you're watching directly onto the laptop you're watching it on, or you can record it to an external hard drive connected to the Vulkano- you choose. Plus you can program remote signals into the vulkano (I haven't done it yet, so I don't know how well it works). It also records into mp4 format (H.264).
I bought a component switch ($26) that works by remote and plan on hooking up my blue ray that does streaming netflix so I can get whatever I want streaming from netflix onto my HTC HD2 (with dual boot to android- vulkano doesn't have an ap for windows based phones as of yet, I know, it's supposed to- but they can still play the mp4s).
I can let you know how it works out once it arrives if you like.

TestTube / Havafun
This is for anyone stuck with an older tv-box like the Hava Player [myhava.com/havamobileplayer.html] (Monsoon's predecessor to it's Vulkano products) i have. Check out [sites.google.com/site/overvoltagesoft/home/testtube] Over Voltage Soft's TestTube (avail. in market). TestTube is an:
Application for Android powered devices that allows owners of Hava place-shifter devices to watch and control their TV.
TestTube doesn't work like the commercial Hava Software that you've probably downloaded directly from Moonson Media. Instead of requiring a Username and Password to connect to your Hava, TestTube requires only the IP address of the device. Since this is a homebrew project that is unaffiliated with Monsoon Media, TestTube does not have access to the login servers which normally redirect you to your device.
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Being that I run Ubuntu and there is no native client support I have to manually watch through the crappy RTSP stream and use just-barely-working scripts (see below) to channel change and all that. See: [sourceforge.net/projects/havafun] Havafun - A package of shell binaries that talk directly to the Hava video streaming device, control key features from the command line (particularly on linux), grab high quality "local" video stream (particularly on linux) for eventual inclusion into MythTV. I imagine almost the same thing could be done from an android box if anyone was interested and proficient enough.
Hope these links helped someone out heh look at me blatantly spamming some guy's app i'll be expecting my check in the mail, overvolatesoft developer guy.

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Watching live TV from your pc at home! (?)

I almost completed my post...and then i pressed my backspace key...so i can start over again
Hello,
I was wondering if there are people who are interested in watching live tv on there windows mobile phone from your pc at home...(?)
Last week i was searching for tools/progs like snapstream(stream live tv/record/schedule etc...) but it wasn't working good enough for me...
I just wanted a simple program to scan for tv channels...name them...and watch them on my kaiser...
So after a few hours programming... it worked
A moment ago i was driving my car and watching tv(350kb(its)s) on my kaiser over hsdpa / umts using my tv card in my pc at home...
The only thing i need to do is make a simple GUI that you can access on your kaiser using pocket ie/opera etc... In this webpage there will be very big buttons (for ex. CNN) so when you press this verry big button (you can't miss ) it will start CNN in TCMPM or windows media player...
(These buttons will be created dynamicly using a xml with your tv channels/freq/descriptions) so you can customize it or auto scan for channels...
Also you will be able to customize output quality...
Are there people who are interested in this? If so i'll will post some beta versions here
Let me know!
God bless!
Her are some screenshots...
You can already do this with Orb and a TV tuner on your PC:
http://www.orb.com/
Possibly an interesting free replacement for Sling Box.
Orb (already mentioned) is very good, and my personal favorite for watching TV is WebGuide http://www.asciiexpress.com/webguide/
Does this only support curtain tv-tuner cards? I would really love an app that works with dvb-s cards. Satillite on my phone would be 2 sweet Orb is good too but no dvb-s support
Microsoft has a free software called Windows Media Encoder that will allow you take in video streams from any source and output as a video stream or record it. It is actually very good. It does not have features to change channels though.

Broadcast TV Tuner signal to my Touch Pro 2 (like Orb, but working...)?

I was curious to find out if anyone is using anything out there to broadcast their TV Tuner signal to their Touch Pro 2 and it's working...
I have tried Orb, ever since they updated for Windows 7, and although I can get it to work using my laptop, I can't get my Touch Pro 2 to connect. Whenever I try and get the signal to my CorePlayer, it hangs without a signal.
I wouldn't use it enough to get SlingBox, but MyTinyTV that worked wonderfully on my HTC Wizard hasn't been supported in a couple years.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Dell Dimension
Intel Quad Core 2 Duo Q6600 2.40GHz
32-bit 4.00GB RAM (3.25 usable)
Windows 7 Ultimate
All-in-Wonder HD
Linksys E2000
I will donate to someone whom can get this going!
orb and core player
I've found that when using orb some setting need to be tweaked on coreplayer. go to menu>tools>setting then select the network page and set user agent spoof to never. that makes streaming videos work for me. not sure about live TV though.
Who is using me?
Try streaming through Windows Media Player or Streaming Media both are allready installed and seem to work fine for me.
With Streaming Media the video does seem to come in smaller but you can change the buffer up to 25 seconds so sometimes it worth it.
Change stream format in the orb web interface on your phone to:
.asx - for Windows Media Player
or
3GP-AAC/RTSP - for Streaming Media
hey i got SBP TV
its working great u can try this and you do not need to register and full license
Have you tried using pie (via IE toggle) then to orb?
SUNNY954 said:
its working great u can try this and you do not need to register and full license
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Thanks! I'll try that soon.
segadc said:
Have you tried using pie (via IE toggle) then to orb?
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I have.
SUNNY954 said:
its working great u can try this and you do not need to register and full license
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Yeah, I just realized that this is a TV application. I don't care about all these garbage stations that broadcast online. I want my FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, and others...
My 2cents..
I would personally start with webcam stream apps and set my TV card as the active cam, set the pc up as a webserver/streamer with some obscure port #, set the stream-cam app to stream 2 disk, and then connect to it by direct IP : port with a suitable player on the phone.
I've done this a long time back PC to PC so a friend and I could watch TV together from seperate locations. I searched around and was able to find free apps to set the whole thing up. There are a few webcam apps that have a built in stream server, you can likely find one if you look around.
I got live streaming TV to my TP2 from my computer at home using orb, I use it to watch the world cup when @ work
make sure that when you setup orb, it is able to scan all your channels
then from there you login to mycast.orb.com from Pocket IE and go to TV > guide > then select a channel and hit play
you can set what type of stream orb will beam by going to the orb website in your pc, going to settings and you can pick different stream types so that it will work with whatever media player you chose

How-To: Streaming MKV/AVI/ETC to the Vibrant (Auto Conversion)

I just wanted to let people know that using VLC on Windows (I can't confirm other platforms) you can stream almost anything VLC can play to your device.
Simply open VLC, goto View, Add Interface, and select Web Interface.
On your device grab VLC stream and Convert from the market.
There are different modes available, for example you can use your device as a VLC remote control - or you can stream to your phone for viewing there.
Make sure you go into settings and make Portrait 480 and Landscape 800. Then goto Stream RTSP, enable MP4A LATM, Set audio to 160, use 5 reference frames, and raise video bitrate to the most your network or connection can handle (If using a VPN you should be able to stream your whole home movie collection over a friends WiFi, out of your phones USB-2-HDMI port, and on to their big screen TV (Albeit at a max 768 bitrate). All over their WiFi. I also kept the framerate at 25, it seemed to play better but that might be source dependent. I set the audio to autosync.
Your settings may very, but mine usually don't get corrupted on a 54g LAN unless that blasted microwave is used...
With my Ultimate Ears and my Vibrant, I literally sat on the couch and watched the first season of "Community" with pretty good results. I got some odd looks when my laughter erupted seemingly out of no where, but it was better than watching HGTV.
The iPhone version of this is called AirServer, if anyone has heard of that.
I hope this helps someone. I actually used the free RDP app in the Market to connect to my PC, start VLC, then browsed through my whole system (all drives seem to be accessible, I am sure there are security concerns to consider).
Once I get my ocular implants and my Bluetooth audio implants I can truly just lay around slack-jawed. One day! I'm not holding my breath...but Ray Kurzweil needs to hurry it up already...
Also
Also, while I was looking I wanted to point out that "Google Listen" was released for podcasts. It integrates into Google Reader and seems pretty sweet.
Wow! I had no idea... will be checking it right now!
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Nice find. Although, I don't think it is auto converting the video (or On-the-Fly conversion like some people might call it). Vibrant supports mkv/avi natively. I tried your method using the free version which the author stated does NOT support auto conversion and the videos (one avi, one mkv) worked fine but with distorted audio.
The Pro-Version does support auto conversion but that is located under its own separate menu and not "RTSP Streaming". I have not tried the pro version personally, but perhaps someone can buy the pro version to test out how well it works.
epic win. thank you sir, this will certainly make those long trips to the inlaws more bearable.
Perfect
Something that helped me was to make sure the Server Port in VLC, which was a default of '1234' matched up with VLC Stream and Convert, which was default at 554. Once I changed that to 1234 bam, perfect.
Thanks

[Q] PC Remote Play ?

I was wondering is there any aplication/concept for aplication that makes PC work as a "cloud" or stream video feed to my mobile phone via WLAN ?
I googled and did quick forun search and could only find aplications that allow you to control your PC, not see video feed.
This could be realy cool App, especialy since Onlive doesnt support some of the older (and free) games and isnt even available in every country.
CrazyRemote is able to control the PC at a very high framerate, which allows watching videos and even playing games remotely. If that's not what you're looking for, look for an app to stream from VLC
jacklebott said:
CrazyRemote is able to control the PC at a very high framerate, which allows watching videos and even playing games remotely. If that's not what you're looking for, look for an app to stream from VLC
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Wow, thats what i was looking for
Now i need to figure out is there a way to use Xplay controls (touch pads too)
If not, well thats too bad then.
Not exactly sure what you're trying to do but apart from the aforementioned crazyremote, check out teamviewer and vlc direct. maybe what you're looking for.
OnLive basically can do the functionality if you just want to play games. There is also an upcoming service from them called OnLive Desktop which is a whole Windows 7 desktop environment which allows for high framerate video streaming, flash, browsing, actual MS Office document edition in MS Office, etc.
Also, Nvidia was touting a new tech that would work with Tegra3 devices (not ours, I know, but on topic none-the-less) that would use the GPU to compress and decompress the input and audio/video stream to and from the computer to allow remote game playing or any other function.
Beyond that, framerates and others would depend on the technology, overhead, and speed of connection. You could use RDP (SplashViewer, etc) or whatnot. Most of this is not fully feasible for twitch games or suchnot, but okay for turn-based or some RPGs or whatever.
If all you want is just Video (like you have tons of .MPG, .MP4, etc) and audio streaming over the air (I assume by WLAN you mean cellular data and not WiFi) from your machine, you can try ORB. It takes a little setting up on the server end, but works nicely. There are a dozen little services that can be set up on your computer (especially if it is Linux). You just need to open that particular machine and the app's port to the DMZ (or internet directly) and then use a local app or your browser on your phone/tablet to reach it and view your stuff. If I remember correctly, ORB can even auto-downsize videos on the fly to match closer to your phone's viewing specs, and/or bandwidth.
If you mean WiFi, any DLNA source can work. You can even make your computer a DLNA source if you have Windows Media Center or one of a dozen other apps that can do it. Then you just have to get an app that can pull DLNA sources (I think Mobo can, as well as a number of others). Certain routers can also have a USB stick or USB hard drive plugged into them and use that as storage to present across the network as a DLNA source.

Live Channels for TV

(I looked for this but search seems to be busted)
Anyone know the situation with getting live TV on the Shield? I bought one to replace the Android TV function of my POS Philips 4K TV, which is so full of bugs as to be unusable and no fix coming from Philips. So far everything is great - fast, remote works all the time, stable - but no TV. I'd like to get my channels working with Live Channels because of the superior UI and the ability to record in the future. Don't want to use kodi or any other third-party TV apps.
I set up a dvblogic server on my NAS and using their beta dvblogic Live app am able to see the guide and switch channels in Live Channels but it doesn't correctly identify language tracks and subtitles don't work at all, and dvblogic have announced that they are abandoning the app's development to concentrate on their own fugly, proprietary app.
I saw that someone has released a hacked kernel with support for USB tuners, though it's for making Kodi work; in theory from what I've read about live channels it ought to just sort of work with supported tuners. Has anyone tried this?
Aside from the hacked kernel are there any other options? I have both DVB-T and IPTV available to me, and while I'd prefer IPTV I'll take whatever I can get. I was sort of hoping that when I connected the Shield to my router it would just find the IPTV channels and put them in the guide. Silly me.
Why dont you just IPTV Pro, there is a free version on Google Play Store. Im using it and its works perfectly with no problems...
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I think the best solution with a NAS is :
- tvheadend server on the NAS with a tuner
- tvheadend client on the shield : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ie.macinnes.tvheadend
But if you have IPTV, it's the easiest solution
You can use Cumulus TV to add m3u8 files in Android Live Channels : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.felkertech.n.cumulustv
Hauppauge
hi
I am trying to get my usb Hauppauge DVB-T2 working on my NVIDIA shield. I have been looking how to do this for several days and cant find any answers that work for me.
I have installed HDHomerun so i can see the live channels app. I also have a VPN and have set it to the USA. I dont want to pay plex.
If anyone can give me a step by step on how to get this working would be great?
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