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How do I stream video and audio?

I have the TyTN and would like to stream video and audio but suspect I need a program designed to do that (?) I have pocketv and tcpmp -- can someone tell me what I need to do?
Thanks!

I am using a slingbox and their wm5 player. This will allow you to watch live TV or any other video source connected to the slingbox.
the cost is about 150 for the box and 30 for the software, but it is awesome!
I can watch live tv (and able to change the channel) on the train ride home.
http://www.slingmedia.com/

Hi
Also you can give ORB a try. ORB is free and it works fine for me.
www.orb.com
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Daniel

The the free version at http://www.umediaserver.net/.
It's very good and with a fixed IP you can watch and change TV channels anywhere.

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Also you can give ORB a try. ORB is free and it works fine for me.
www.orb.com
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Daniel
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can u elaborate on how this exactly works and what i need to do before i go screwing up my tytn. thanks!!!

You register at www.orb.com and configure your computer with the program/webpage. Then point Pocket IE to www.orb.com and use it. It's very basic and easy, and doesn't harm your TyTN.
I tried to set up a stream on my LAN using VLC. Other computers may view and hear the stream using WMP, but Pocket WMP refuses to play it because "The parameter was not set correctly" (or something like that). Anyone know what's wrong?

With Unreal Media Server server you need a tv card in your pc.
I have an old Pinnacle RAVE TV card in my PC. I've installed Umedia server on my PC and set this up to capture and stream the tv card. I can watch decent quality TV from anywhere in the house using the free Umedia player. I also have a fixed IP address from my ISP. Having unblocked the relevant firewall port, I can also watch TV via 3G connection, albiet at reduced quality because of the lower bandwidth available.
There is a PC and Pocket PC client player available from http://www.umediaserver.net/download.html. The Pocket PC client is all that is needed on your TyTN.
This is a useful document http://www.umediaserver.net/StreamingAdvices.pdf. HTML version available at http://www.umediaserver.net/source.html.

Remote videos

Looking for something or a way I can watch videos or stream from my MAC to EVO also able to download the files if I need to plz help sorry or music also
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Orb Networks
I've been using Orb Networks for years. You download/setup the free server side (your computer) program then on your phone just go to mycast.orb.com and login. From there you can browse your defined folders (I've even set up file browsing on mine), pick a media file and it will stream to your phone via the browser. There is a pay app for Orb but the quality is no better than using your phone's browser. The only advantage I've found it gives you a pretty media library interface. Not worth the $ IMHO.
You will need to play with the stream settings to find the best quality for your connection rate. Seeing that flash is supported in the phone's browser I'd suggest starting there. I generally do a speed test from my browse page if I'm unsure of network quality. On our screens the playback will be a bit blocky but the up side is that if you have a tv tuner on your server you can watch live tv on your phone (or your friends phone, or your laptop, or another computer).
If you go with orb and have any other questions feel free to pm me

I can't msg u says u can't accept but is orb my only way I can't login with something else to my MAC and stream video music ect....
Lokifish said:
Orb Networks
I've been using Orb Networks for years. You download/setup the free server side (your computer) program then on your phone just go to mycast.orb.com and login. From there you can browse your defined folders (I've even set up file browsing on mine), pick a media file and it will stream to your phone via the browser. There is a pay app for Orb but the quality is no better than using your phone's browser. The only advantage I've found it gives you a pretty media library interface. Not worth the $ IMHO.
You will need to play with the stream settings to find the best quality for your connection rate. Seeing that flash is supported in the phone's browser I'd suggest starting there. I generally do a speed test from my browse page if I'm unsure of network quality. On our screens the playback will be a bit blocky but the up side is that if you have a tv tuner on your server you can watch live tv on your phone (or your friends phone, or your laptop, or another computer).
If you go with orb and have any other questions feel free to pm me
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Can anyone tell me if there is.anything else I can use besides orb plz I'm sure there has to be remote something out there to stream video music ect... and to download files from mac or pc
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Can anyone tell me if there is.anything else I can use besides orb plz I'm sure there has to be remote something out there to stream video music ect... and to download files from mac or pc
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Theres nothing else that I have seen that can stream from your computer to your phone, besides Slingbox, but thats only live tv and dvr. As far as downloading files from the mac to the phone, you can use dropbox, or use a remote desktop app.

can Orb stream .MKV files? i'm really hoping I will be able to stream using windows home server V2 when it comes out this year. They have allow streaming through internet browsers, so hopefully the Evo won't be an exception.

mobgod said:
I can't msg u says u can't accept but is orb my only way I can't login with something else to my MAC and stream video music ect....
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Not sure why you can't msg me, I should be able to receive all msgs.
I've looked into other options but have always come back to Orb. My main reason has been I need 3 or 4 different programs to do what Orb does and may of those require both host and client apps. Another reason has been in order to change settings in many of programs, they require that you be at the host computer.
Hairongreenfire said:
can Orb stream .MKV files? i'm really hoping I will be able to stream using windows home server V2 when it comes out this year. They have allow streaming through internet browsers, so hopefully the Evo won't be an exception.
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.MKV works but there's reports of sync issues. All Orb really does is transcode then stream your media in the format you select in your settings

some people stream using vlc and the vlc client for android

Subsonic will do this with very slight modification. See my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789717&page=2
The file locations will be different for a mac, but it's nothing a quick search can't solve ;-)

VLC remote is said to be a good choice as well
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[App] VLC Stream & Convert

VLC Stream & Convert
hxxp://traveldevel.com
This software has been out for a little over 2 months and for some reason it hasnt become wildly popular. I figured id start a thread for it since the software can be quirky when setting it up. It sounds like it was a side project for the author.. it is an amazing side project. My phone has become the end all be all multimedia device. I can access my music with Subsonic and all of my Movies with this app. The only thing you need on your PC is VLC.
My EVO is 100% Stock so I do know it works with everything on the stock EVO.
Some quick tips with the EVO.
1. By default the app is set to use port 554 under the "Stream to phone (rtsp)". Change that to port 5554.
2. Wifi has to be on for the video streaming to work for some reason. You do not have to be connected to wifi, just the antenna has to be on.
3. IF you are confused by VLC and want aa quick way to set it up properly in windows (especially with the newer versions of vlc) the VLC setup tool by Hobbyist Software works great. It is a one time setup.

I've had this app for a while now and love it.
Actually, thanks to this post I figured out finally how to stream video over 3g. Didn't know the wireless had to be turned on.. weird.
Awesome being able to have my entire media collection on the go, don't have to worry about converting files or switching out what is on my sd card.

I tried setting this up before but couldn't get it to work. I believe VLC is setup correctly and I put in my computers IP (trying to do it over 3G). It never displays my files, it also doesn't give an error message or anything either. Just sits there. Any idea?

When you go to localhost:8080 in your pc browser what do you see?

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When you go to localhost:8080 in your pc browser what do you see?
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I see the VLC web interface. But when I put in my IP address (trying to do it over 3g and not wifi) it doesn't connect.

I made a little write up for another forum, steal anything you'd like for the OP:
Fans of Air Video on the iPhone/Pad/Touch know that there are no plans for a much requested Android port because if its reliance on Apple's AirPlay protocol.
Well for Android users there's now an equivalent alternative using VLC.
What this does:
Let you transcode and play on the fly any media file you can play with the desktop version of VLC from your desktop and stream live to your Android device over WiFi and/or a mobile network (3G/4G). VLC will stream the video via the RTSP protocol which supports live seeking of streamed content.
Orb Live also does this, but the Orb client is not free and the video quality sucks ass. The video quality using VLC transcoding is quite excellent.
Installing the RTSP Server
Quick Setup:
1.) Grab a copy of VLC, the latest version of this writing is v1.1.4 has garbled audio issues when transcoding videos with AAC, so grab the older version (1.1.3) from here:
http://www.oldapps.com/VLC_Player.php?old_vlc=53?download
2.) Start VLC and go to
A.) Tools->Preferences
B.) On the bottom left click on the "All" radio button to show all settings.
C.) On the treeview to the left exapnd the Interface tree node and select the "Main interfaces" tree item.
D.) On the right side check the "HTTP remote control interface" option and press the Save button.
Leave VLC running it will act as a streaming RTSP server with a web based file browser running by default on port 8080.
For a more advanced setup, or if you need to setup using alternate ports refer to the info here:
http://traveldevel.com/vlc-stream-convert/setup
Installing Client
Grab VLC Stream and Convert from the Market (the free version works fine and will do pretty much everything we want):
http://www.appbrain.com/app/vlc-stream-convert/com.gmail.traveldevel.android.vlc.app
Exposing VLC to the Internet for 3G/Mobile streaming
Quick Setup;
1.) On my Windows 7 firewall settings I allowed the VLC.exe public and private network access.
2.) On the router I port forwarded the default ports used by VLC for the web based file browser and RTSP server (ports 8080 and 5554 respectively). The default RTSP port may be 554, check and/or change VLC Stream & Convert to verify.
More detailed setup:
http://traveldevel.com/vlc-stream-convert/streaming-over-3g
Streaming over 3G on Froyo (Android 2.2) Workaround
Apparantly there's an issue with Froyo (experienced with my Evo 4G running stock Froyo) which locks down the ability to stream via RTSP over 3G. The work-around is to turn on the WiFi radio, even if you stream off 3G.
More info on the issue here:
http://community.htc.com/na/htc-forums/android/f/94/p/5287/23683.aspx
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc-evo-4g/26814-htc-streaming-media-player-problems.html
Tweaking for your device:
For optimized viewing on Sprint 3G's network on my EVO 4G, I use thse settings.
1.) In the VLC Stream & Convert application type the "menu" button and tap "Settings".
2.) Under the "Stream to phone (rtsp) under the "H.264" AVC settings I set
- Video Bitrate to 512
- Width to 480
- Canvas aspect ratio : 15:9 (800:480)
- Under x264 settings I set Reference frames to 3.
3.) Under the "Playback" section set:
-Portrait video width to 480
-Landscape video width to 800
Playing Media:
http://traveldevel.com/vlc-stream-convert/usage

Thanks Talyn.... cant wait to get home and try this.
i been using my ipod touch (wifi tether) with air video to stream from home while at work but id like to not have to carry both devices everyday.

will try this later for sure

Followed the above instructions.
I can remotely control VLC, but I can't seem to get the video to run. I configured the port to 5554 and 554 (with the appropriate router changes). I also configured these ports in Windows Firewall.
I get an error stating: "Too Many Errors"
Don't know if this matters, but it is running on a Windows Home Server machine.

sw99 said:
Followed the above instructions.
I can remotely control VLC, but I can't seem to get the video to run. I configured the port to 5554 and 554 (with the appropriate router changes). I also configured these ports in Windows Firewall.
I get an error stating: "Too Many Errors"
Don't know if this matters, but it is running on a Windows Home Server machine.
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As a troubleshooting step can you stream within your local network? Meaning don't try to connect via 3g, use the local ip address of the home server and connect within your local home network wifi. That will tell us if the issue is router/Sprint network related configuration issue.

One more thing that should be pointed out.
You are giving the entire Internet access to your files. Developer suggests that you limit your router access to your IP address, but I found that Sprint changes your IP address on a regular basis.
Wish VLC would implement some sort of security on their end.

I had to use port 554 but video playback is choppy for some reason over wifi or 3g.

^^ yeah, the security thing sucks. One solution would be to relay it via VPN but that would add a bunch of overhead. It wouldn't be too hard to write your own file browser interface with an RTSP relay, but alas who has the time....
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I had to use port 554 but video playback is choppy for some reason over wifi or 3g.
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What are the specs of the computer you're running VLC on? Might be due to it not being powerful to encode certain videos on the fly.
I have it running on a pretty beefy machine. Core i7 920 overlclocked to 3.9ghz, and I can trans code 1080p MKVs with no choppiness.

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What are the specs of the computer you're running VLC on? Might be due to it not being powerful to encode certain videos on the fly.
I have it running on a pretty beefy machine. Core i7 920 overlclocked to 3.9ghz, and I can trans code 1080p MKVs with no choppiness.
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It's older pc, Core 2 Duo 8400.

hkkmr said:
It's older pc, Core 2 Duo 8400.
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That's still a pretty darn good processor. What's your CPU usage at when streaming videos?

Working good for me on Wifi on the local network but not when I try to connect externally. I have all the appropriate ports forwarded and it acts like it's playing.. But I get no video. No errors.. Just no video.

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Working good for me on Wifi on the local network but not when I try to connect externally. I have all the appropriate ports forwarded and it acts like it's playing.. But I get no video. No errors.. Just no video.
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What bitrate / horizontal width set to? How fast is your 3G connection? I usually have to wait about 10 or seconds before the video starts playing over 3G. Until then it's just black.

It's working fine for me now that I'm outside of my local network. It just wasn't working when I was on my local network and trying to connect with an external IP. Dunno why
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thenags said:
It's working fine for me now that I'm outside of my local network. It just wasn't working when I was on my local network and trying to connect with an external IP. Dunno why
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Ah, probably due to loopback being off on your router. Quite common.

Bumping to say I just tested this with the HDMI cable and it works fine! There's some serious nerd cred to be able stream and trascode videos on the fly over the Internet and into someone's big screen TV via your phone.

[Q] Does the Desire HD's DNLA function actually work?

Has anyone here been able to get the DNLA function in their Desire HD to actually work?
I have tried sharing photos, videos, and music via the "Connected Media" app that comes preinstalled on the device, but its not working. I have my DHD and a PS3 connected to my wifi router, and I can stream from my laptop to my PS3 no problem. I had hoped I would be able to look at my photos and videos on my TV via the PS3's DNLA capabilities.
Connected Media was not working, so I then tried installing and running an alternative media sharing app, TwonkyServer Mobile - but again, no joy.
I can see the DNLA Android service running when I go into Settings->Applications->Running Services, so now I am wondering, is there something wrong with that service?
HTC's own website advertising the Desire HD states :
"Some moments you never want to forget. So capture them with HTC Desire HD’s high definition video camera. Then relive and share every detail in HD on your TV, long after the memories have faded."
So far, I have not been able to do anything of the sort

From what I can tell, in terms of recieving streams from other devices, it *does* work, but is VERY limited in terms of what content it can play back.
However, in terms of playing back content from the phone - it requires a very specific device (i.e. HTC's Hub) in order to be able to play back content. Poor move by HTC.

I thought the HTC Hub was for TV's that don't support DLNA?

i can get mine working with xbmc in linux, some pictures seemed to crash it though.

Mine works very well.
It streams from connected media to my DLNA enabled Samsung TV or DLNA enabled Sony Blu Ray. It has also worked well streaming to Windows 7 pcs. Very quick and very clear.
I've not had much luck playing divX files from my DLNA nas on my phone though, music plays fine.

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However, in terms of playing back content from the phone - it requires a very specific device (i.e. HTC's Hub) in order to be able to play back content. Poor move by HTC.
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I thought the whole idea was that it meant videos/photos taken using the Desire HD could then be displayed on TVs via DNLA. PS3s are DNLA compliant which meant a lot of people out there should already be able to use that as their DNLA client. I was looking forward to seeing my new 720p videos on my TV via the PS3.
NB Streaming from other devices to the Desire HD I am not that concerned with.
If anyone has been able to successfully stream from their Desire HD to their TV via a PS3, please let it be known

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Mine works very well.
It has also worked well streaming to Windows 7 pcs. Very quick and very clear.
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How do you setup the phone and win7 pc to stream music/fotos/videos from the pfone to the pc?
I want this because I have a mediacenter HTPC connected to my tv in the livingroom
Thx

It should work, because DLNA is a standard protocol. It would be stupid of HTC to come up with a proprietary protocol and label it as "DLNA".
To the OP: are you sure you are connected to your internal network? If you install ES File Explorer, or Android SFTP, can you connect to a PC from your DHD?
edit: both HTC Desire Z & HD are DLNA Certified Products, so they should work with any other DLNA device => http://certification.dlna.org/certs/REG46355642.pdf
In this certification document, apparently only IMAGES are certified as media that can be streamed, so only pictures, no music or movies.
edit2: comparing DLNA certificate of the Galaxy S, which has more certified media types: http://certification.dlna.org/certs/REG70753643.pdf

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To the OP: are you sure you are connected to your internal network? If you install ES File Explorer, or Android SFTP, can you connect to a PC from your DHD?
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I definitely have the DHD connected to the internal network (by which I assume you mean my wifi router?). I checked on my router's admin webpages and the phone is being allocated an IP address etc ok so I dont think there is anything wrong on a TCP/IP level.
I will install Android SFTP later and try connecting to my laptop, but I'd still love to hear if anyone has had any DHD->PS3 success.

Yeah if anyone can get it to work with the PS3 that would be great.
Also you could try install Twonky Mobile and see if that works.

Ok, I tried using Connected Media on my DHD in conjunction with Windows Media Player on Windows 7...and it worked perfectly!
Perhaps PS3's are not actually fully DNLA compliant, or there is some obscure setting hidden somewhere in the PS3 that I havent switched on (I doubt the latter however) ?
In any case, I think this proves that Connected Media does in fact work. Thanks to whoever suggested trying it against something other than a PS3.
As always, if anyone actually does get it to work with a PS3 - please shout!

mcclane said:
How do you setup the phone and win7 pc to stream music/fotos/videos from the pfone to the pc?
I want this because I have a mediacenter HTPC connected to my tv in the livingroom
Thx
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It all runs through Windows Media Player.
Open it up, choose 'stream' from the menu and choose 'allow remote control of my player' and then it should work.
If it doesn't then you have to fiddle with the streaming settings in 'more streaming options'

is it possible to access shares in the network and make a share so other pc's can access this on the DHD?

I'm able to stream content to my ps3 over dlna. Not through the default application but twonky mobile. It works perfectly watching a 720p movie without any stutters.

brokensocialsteve said:
It all runs through Windows Media Player.
Open it up, choose 'stream' from the menu and choose 'allow remote control of my player' and then it should work.
If it doesn't then you have to fiddle with the streaming settings in 'more streaming options'
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i tried both but somehow the windows media player of win7 doesn't appear to be in my desire hd.
btw, i could see the video files of win7 but when i clicked any, i could only hear the sound but not the video screen. any idea?

endroidphone said:
i tried both but somehow the windows media player of win7 doesn't appear to be in my desire hd.
btw, i could see the video files of win7 but when i clicked any, i could only hear the sound but not the video screen. any idea?
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Check the file you are trying to stream. It has to be .mp4 with h264/aac encoding of the video/audio streams. The bitrate should also be reasonable (2000k works for sure)

You actually have different types of dlna devices : It depends of the capabilities of the sending device and the receiving device...
http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/

Does anyone get DNLA to work ?

Hey, any1 using the DNLA yet ?
if so, how do you get it to work ?
Mine can't find the destination media, only the phone show up.

What are you using? I use my PS3
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Connected yes, actually play anything with any watchable quality no.

I used Media Player 12 in window 7, but it doesn't work.

I've also used it on my PS3 but it tends to have some issues from time to time.

Working great through wifi using iMediashare tool on my Desire and LG BD390 bluray player. No special options though.
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Yes, fully functional.
1 Desktop/Server
1 Mediacenter
2 Laptops
2 mt4g
Using nothing more then the media sharing capabilities built into win7 + divx. Using twonky I am able to play anything shared on my main library to any device running win7 and the built in windows media player with the appropriate setting.
in win7, just make sure you have your libraries shared. With that, your phone, using twonky, should see the upnp/dlna server and be able to play music. I have a collection of mostly divx video, this u cannot play on the phone. I am still hoping for a divx/xvid codec..
If you have a mediacenter/server setup. Ensure your win7 libraries are shared on the library and you can see these shared libraries on your win7 mediacenter. If you can, run windows media player on the mediacenter. Under the Stream menu button check the option to "Allow Remote Control of My Player". Confirm this option and you will now see it on your phone using twonky. You will be able to play music/movies to your mediacenter because it should have the capabilities of decoding the video.
Going further, I have internet access enabled on my media. I can access everything I have from anywhere I have. Haven't tried to do this on my phone yet.. But I prob will sometime. I think the solution may be as simple as a vpn connection to my home network.
Let me know if you have any specific questions...

I did samething you told me to do in win7, but i got error " No permission to access server/service"
I can see it in my phone now.

Works perfectly with my WDTV Live player...
But I'm certainly interested in what nicholasb has to say about the streaming home content via VPN.... if I'm not mistaken.