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class action against HTC/Microsoft?

What do you guys think of getting involved in a class action against HTC/Microsoft if HD2 is not allowed WP7? Now that WP7 is announced, many software companies are going to stop (or already stopped) developing for WinMo 6.5 and we are left outside with an already bricked 2 month old device (it's not even out for USA). I don't like paying $1.000 (yes it is that expensive where I live) for a device which will be outdated in 2 months. HTC and Microsoft should be more loyal to their customers than that. What do you all think?

HTC and Microsoft never promised a WP7S upgrade.
If you're thinking about raising a class action for something that wasn't in the contract of sale, you are, as we say in Scotland, an eejit (idiot).
Sell your HD2 now and be phone-less for 6 months, then buy a Wp7s capable phone. Or at the very least wait for an official announcement on whether it will be upgradable or not.

they never promised an upgrade, but they never said that we won't be able to use WP7 apps as well. Even when you buy a desktop PC with Windows, you're given the option of free upgrade when the new OS is imminent, else no one would buy. And that's when you can still perfectly use all the new applications on your old OS. Don't you feel kinda being cheated, is it only me??

bricked device? it still works doesn't it? you've got a year or so before 7 really hits the mass market, that doesn't stop your phone from working NOW.
do you look at cars the same way? I got my Renault Laguna, it's made in 2001 but I'm not moaning because they don't let me upgrade to the nice shiny 2010 model engine just because i have an older version.
I don't get the complaining about being able to have 7 on their phone when clearly it doesn't have the hardware (4 point multi touch, 3 buttons etc) that windows 7 needs.
I'm sure MS or HTC will take the OS as far as they feel like before 7 rolls out and I would not doubt that some of the clever code monkeys here on XDA will be able to cook up a fantastic 7 ROM that will work in some way on our currently working and rather impressive HD2's

why are people complaining about not having win7 available on the device when it is out in about 7 months time? Did you buy the HD2 SOLELY on the basis it would have this upgrade in OS? Did HTC promise you that it was going to upgraded to win7 when it came out?

ozkaya said:
they never promised an upgrade, but they never said that we won't be able to use WP7 apps as well. Even when you buy a desktop PC with Windows, you're given the option of free upgrade when the new OS is imminent, else no one would buy. And that's when you can still perfectly use all the new applications on your old OS. Don't you feel kinda being cheated, is it only me??
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WP7 is not new version of WM6.5. Call it Zune Phone and it all becomes clear.
And even if free upgrade is offered sometimes with desktop computers, it clearly is stated as a part of the contract. Here it was not. If you don't like it, you should have not bought it.

I had thought of hanging on to my Touch Pro until WP7 came out. I ended up getting the HD2 and I've never had so much fun with a phone.
We are spoiled rotten in this community. I can get my device to do anything I want it to do and a few things I hadn't even thought of thanks to the hard work, generosity and smarts of the good people who contribute to these forums.
Come on! We don't even know if we will like WP7 yet! Enjoy the amazing device you have. Modify it, flash it, load a thousand apps on it if you like.
By the time WP7 is stable, usable and has a load of good apps, we'll probably be good and ready for an upgrade.

If the HD2 does everything you need in a phone what does it matter if it will run 7 or not? Especially if HTC never promised it would.
If its just for epeen status you're gonna look like gypsy joe anyway come the time trying to run a new OS on an old phone. Either way I am sure some bright spark on XDA will make 7 run on the HD2.

Also remember that WP7 is brand new OS with no applications at all. It will take at least a year till it will start to be usable for basic operation. We don't know how hard it will be to adapt actual applications. It might be minor modifications, it might be totally impossible, and everything would have to be done from the scratch.
Yes .. we all want new better WM .. but WP7 is just not that.

How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.

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How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.
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you are right but most applications developers stoped developing for wm6.5 and starts to develope for the upcoming wp7 series so it is wm6.5 end (but not in an official way)

reasons why this bull
1 in the box which my htc hd2 was piece of paper saying that this phone would get a upgrade to wm7
2 there footage of wm7 on the htc hd2
3 the fact that ms always denie all rumours about all their products
4 no device has 4 point mutil touch if was the case this would be a big deal for microsoft as apple owns the patents for true mutil touch screens
5 windows specs change all the time and this is true for all software
6 the htc hd2 pro is coming out and professionals would want wm7

a piece of paper may say they will do 7 but maybe the rules changed and they discovered in the full release version they can't run wm7
i'm sure the initial idea was great but reality has deemed the hd2 not suitable for wm7
would a pro want an OS that's not allowing backward compatibility of their "pro" apps? no so maybe they'll stick with 6.5xxxx
have you actually tried wm7 yet? all this fuss and it might turn out to be rubbish then i guess you'll bring another class action against MS to say you want 6.5 back
whether it be Apple/MS/HTC they can't please everyone but to rant about it BEFORE the OS is out is pretty pointless. think logically rather than throw toys from pram please

I think WP7 will be business oriented. Only think they can do better then the others would be exchange synchronization. Otherwise I see no reason why would anybody buy it. And before new apps are done for it, iPhone will have new version, Android will be at 3.0 and another players may show up.

ozkaya said:
What do you guys think of getting involved in a class action against HTC/Microsoft if HD2 is not allowed WP7? Now that WP7 is announced, many software companies are going to stop (or already stopped) developing for WinMo 6.5 and we are left outside with an already bricked 2 month old device (it's not even out for USA). I don't like paying $1.000 (yes it is that expensive where I live) for a device which will be outdated in 2 months. HTC and Microsoft should be more loyal to their customers than that. What do you all think?
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Sorry guys, I couldn't help it

this forum gets dumber by the day.

I'll Stick with 6.5!
Why does anyone want WP7 anyway? My phone works just the way I want it (now, after a few problems initially), it is fast, looks great and makes most other phones look like they were just dug up in an episode of Time Team!
I have just about every app I could want, running beautifully and doing pretty much everything I could ever need. If I was offered WP7 today I would say no! An untried OS with no software support for at least another 6 months (after release) and we don't know how customizable or flexible it will be... I'd be mad to jump ship from 6.5!
When I know what the new OS actually is, when I know I can get all the software I require and that I can make the phone the way I want it and that the OS is something I actually like THEN... I'll have a new device that will have even more bells and whistles and this won't be an issue...

scottmo said:
Why does anyone want WP7 anyway? My phone works just the way I want it (now, after a few problems initially), it is fast, looks great and makes most other phones look like they were just dug up in an episode of Time Team!
I have just about every app I could want, running beautifully and doing pretty much everything I could ever need. If I was offered WP7 today I would say no! An untried OS with no software support for at least another 6 months (after release) and we don't know how customizable or flexible it will be... I'd be mad to jump ship from 6.5!
When I know what the new OS actually is, when I know I can get all the software I require and that I can make the phone the way I want it and that the OS is something I actually like THEN... I'll have a new device that will have even more bells and whistles and this won't be an issue...
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why would you like to stay with un supported version of os ,as wp7 arrives developers will stop developing for wm6.5

ardsar said:
How many more threads are we going to get on the same subject.
WM6.5.5 is NOT being withdrawn and will continue to support the business users. From what i've seen of wm7, its "pants" and not suitable for business use, but thats my opinion.
I find it difficult to beleive that so many of you purchased the phone based on the pretence that it would be upgraded to WM7. At the end of the day, you will get it anyway - albeit not from HTC but from XDA.
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+1 -CLASS ACTION? That is so laughable! End these threads please it just annoying to guess at everything. Wait for the MIX '10 and listen to then as to what they want to say. Until then no more threads about WP7 upgrades on HD2...wahh.wahhh.wahhh...

There goes another 2 minutes of my life. When will I learn....

dell streak running wp7. is it possible?

hi all
i am a complete technology newbie. i would like to know if its possible to port the developer build/final build (i know its not available yet) of windows phone 7 on dell streak? i am sure streak meets all the hardware requirements. i just want to know if its possible at least in theory?
I have fallen in love with dell streak but i dont like android that much. i would be on top of the world if dell streak could run windows phone 7 as i believe it is the OS of the century!!

are you for real?
from what ive seen of wp7 it looks like a really boring OS. blank screen with text....yawn.
yes the streak is awesome, yes it does suck having 1.6 on it but once the updates or hackers start messing about its going to rule.

i do have to agree, why would you want to? the hardware isnt supported anyways. i want is htc sense. still android! but prettier.

Not going to happen I'm afraid!

People managed to get windows 98 running on the Nexus One (although it was pretty pointless; no wifi drivers, no double click, no right click, no click and drag, etc.)
I'd rather get XP running on the Dell than WM7 anyday

I would definately be up for WP7 on the Streak!

vinokirk said:
I would definately be up for WP7 on the Streak!
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thanx vinokirk!! i almost got blasted for asking that question.

I would be an interesting challenge, I too am intrigued by WP7.
Android is growing on me, but it feels half baked at times, too reliant on 3rd party apps for the best experience. Maybe 2.2 will sort allot of that.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App

Hopefully the streak will get WP7 through some hacking to get it working. WP7 may look boring to some, but I think it looks amazing. Also, since it supports XNA its going to have some amazing games on it.
As much as I like android, its just not very polished.

courtlandre said:
Hopefully the streak will get WP7 through some hacking to get it working. WP7 may look boring to some, but I think it looks amazing. Also, since it supports XNA its going to have some amazing games on it.
As much as I like android, its just not very polished.
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Yeah I think it would be awesome if it did happen! But it's getting people that have the knowledge and time to put into it fingers crossed though!

wm7 will be out in October i have just read and there will be loads of devices that are running it so i don't see the point of putting it on this device, it was built for android, just buy a wm7 tablet i know of 4 manufacturer's that have said they will be building a wm7 tablet/phone

I doubt any will be a 5" device. Plus, its fun hacking phones and putting new OS's on.

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I doubt any will be a 5" device. Plus, its fun hacking phones and putting new OS's on.
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exactly!! i can put dell streak into my pocket but a 7 inch tablet or larger is not pocketable and all i hear is that wp7 tablets will all be 7 inch or more...no rumour or anything of that sort on a 5inch device running wp7..
moreover, i just love the design of dell streak and would love to have a polished OS running on it.

who would actually prefer this over android...it seems cool but it would probably get boring after 2 or three weeks

is this convosation still going on.
wp7 = countless plain screens with text, 1998 called they want their phone back

sahirhussain said:
hi all
i am a complete technology newbie. i would like to know if its possible to port the developer build/final build (i know its not available yet) of windows phone 7 on dell streak? i am sure streak meets all the hardware requirements. i just want to know if its possible at least in theory?
I have fallen in love with dell streak but i dont like android that much. i would be on top of the world if dell streak could run windows phone 7 as i believe it is the OS of the century!!
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+1.
I love the current iteration of the 5" device in my pocket.
But I would love to have a 5" device in my pocket which can be WP7 or Android.

WP7 on Dell Venue Pro, why not on Streak?
I would love to see dual boot Android/WP7 on the Dell Streak!

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I would love to see dual boot Android/WP7 on the Dell Streak!
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WP7? Another dumbed down iphonesque straight jacket OS, more Apple than even IOS? With no flash, no multitasking, and minimum possibilities for personalization? I personally really don't care for any operating system that assumes I am too dumb to use a phone and that I have to do everything just the way big Daddy wants me to or I will mess it up.

HansTWN said:
WP7? Another dumbed down iphonesque straight jacket OS, more Apple than even IOS? With no flash, no multitasking, and minimum possibilities for personalization? I personally really don't care for any operating system that assumes I am too dumb to use a phone and that I have to do everything just the way big Daddy wants me to or I will mess it up.
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ya did you guys really want an os that can't be your own that's the beauty of android you can it make so personal..... I just think android has to get a little more polished up.... but for developers who want play and see if they can do more power and maybe a dual boot would be cool to show off lol

Well a dual boot would be awesome, if nothing then pure awesomeness by the developer

[Q] WINDOWS PHONE 7 release on nov 8 on HTC HD7

I have confirmed that Windows Phone 7 is being released on several devices on November 8th. The tmobile version has two devices, the one that interests me is the HTC HD7 (and dell venue pro). Nice looking phone 4.3 inch screen, but major difference is it has three buttons (touch like the HD).
here is the link...
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsphone/en-us/buy/7/phones.aspx#filter=24&cmpid=14303000&wt.mc_id=insidernl
does anyone know how they plan to give the hd2 owners the OS? and what about the people who dont know anything about flashing?
WHo has reliable information on how they plan to do this.
LANCELOT

Hd2 will not be getting wp7.... that was announced a long time ago. No official upgrade.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

YES an excuse to tell myself to buy a new device!!!
zarathustrax said:
Hd2 will not be getting wp7.... that was announced a long time ago. No official upgrade.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Thank you for the bad/good news!!!
I actually just signed up to get a HD7 as soon as it's released. I keep seeing that there are too many driver/hardware compatibility issues to make wp7 work on the hd2...
A little f'd up because HTC hinted that anyone who bought the HD2 would be able to upgrade when wp7 came out...it's a good thing that we have great chef's otherwise the HD2 would be a waste
LANCELOT

android on htc hd7 same as htc hd2??
now that this phone is coming out will it be the same process to run android on this new phone hd7, or is it more complicated then the htc hd2. are these the same phone basically spec wise except for touch buttons and a kickstand. lets strat the comparison, as i just ordered a hd2 to put android on it but not sure if the hd7 will run android better.

hd7 is not out yet how do we know if you can even run android on windows phone 7! we will all have to wait and see!

Hopefully our great devs here will be able to port wp7 over. Cotulla already got it to boot up on the hd2, which is a great sign. Considering the hd7 has the exact same hardware as our hd2, wp7 has the possibility to run great on our phones. We can only hope and support our devs. Time will tell.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

xxfirerican said:
now that this phone is coming out will it be the same process to run android on this new phone hd7, or is it more complicated then the htc hd2. are these the same phone basically spec wise except for touch buttons and a kickstand. lets strat the comparison, as i just ordered a hd2 to put android on it but not sure if the hd7 will run android better.
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You should get a native android phone if you just want to run android. Android on the hd2 will probably never run as well as native android phone... its always gonna be a hacked on version of android.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

android on hd7 risky move
xxfirerican said:
now that this phone is coming out will it be the same process to run android on this new phone hd7, .
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I'd be a little skeptical about trying the same process on the HD7, will an uploader work or will it brick the phone. we know what happened with the the hd2 hspl was neccessary. And, if the drivers are so different that the wm7 is incompatible with the hd2's hardware...i would assume just throwing the android we have now onto a diffent device is asking for trouble (althoug from everything I'm seeing, the hd7 is almost the same thing... i dont like the fact that the 16gb of memory is on board...will it have an sd slot?)
I'd wait until someone successfully does it
LANCELOT

When I looked at the spec it look like it the same processor as my HD2 except for the button. So it can be program to use Windows Mobile 7 without programming the other buttong? Just curious. Can someone check it out? Thanks.

Oh you dear, sweet, uninitiated. Allow me to clarify some points:
1-WILL THE HD2 GET AN UPGRADE TO WP7
A-Officially, no. This was announced some months ago that the HD2 will NOT be getting an upgrade to WP7 from MS or HTC.
2-DOES THAT MEAN THAT A CUSTOM WP7 ROM WILL HAPPEN?
A-Maybe. As it has been stated, Cotulla has booted WP7 successfully on HD2 hardware, but it is uncertain as to wether it will work in day to day use. His team is currently VERY secretive about what is/isn't working.
3-WHAT ABOUT ANDROID?
A-I have always said, if you wan't Android, buy and Android device. WP7 will almost certainly NOT work with current Android builds. Different hardware, different drivers etc. Oh and WP7 is not compatable with CE applications...which means HaRET...and pretty much any program written for WinMo.
I hope that clears some things up!

ask android

We asked experts if in omnia7 Can start android?

That for now would be no for sure.
spippo said:
We asked experts if in omnia7 Can start android?
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Well, for now its going to be a No NO, why because the developers have very limited access to phones architecture and the xips. At this stage even the apps for wp7 have very limited functionality, for example most WP7 have a digital compass but as of yet no application effectively utilises this feature. However, with the progression of time and new updates coming in we shall see marginal improvement in the WP7 ecosystem. Who knows that some xda developer might be able to emulate android on wp7 and consequently on Omnia 7 as well.

We asked experts if in ANDROID Can start OMNIA7?
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OPPOSITE THINGS= YES WE CAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDBwlZ_jLu8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910918

All this I is a theme. The base is still Android and in NO way WP7. Its cool but its not dual booting Windows and Android.
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OPPOSITE THINGS= YES WE CAN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDBwlZ_jLu8
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=910918
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I hope this will soon be possible. I feel really cheated with my WP7. I can't believe Microsoft can get away with this. I am stuck with a 2 year plan, Omnia 7 trade in price dropped so low, and I have to pay the telco a big penalty if I change phone now.
I'd rather give my money to the developers who can give Android on Omnia 7.

yes i agree with you about the feeling cheated by microsoft they gave the impression of many minor updates as they became available not one or twice a year i cant wait for omnia 7 to be hacked to run android.
on a different note will it ever be possable to create a emulator for wp7 that can mount a iphone app ?

Why people want Android to all phones? Boring...

If the people want android, why they don't bay an android Phone?

why?
Im happy on WP and can't see the reason for using Android. I read a lot before buying my Omnia 7 and dont feel cheated therefore. Mango will be the start for regular users and this close to the update, it would seem like a lot of work for nothing. WP is a more modern plattform so why go backwards, in that case buy a Android device instead.
Android dev for HD2 was understanble, a lot of problems with WM OS made it easyer for daylie users to get a stable phone. Android was a new and better platform in terms of stability.
WP today just works, and Mango will make it complete, or cloae to it.

I find this query odd too. I can understand it if it is the HD2 forum or any WM6.x devices.
There are tons of Android devices with specs equal or superior to the Omnia 7 (like the Galaxy S2). So why bother asking to put Android on the Omnia 7? Just get an Android device.

If it is possible,sounds great.but android gives me a very bad user experience,and I used to have a pocket pc and an android device,I bought wp7 all because of its new UI,and power hardware,these improve the experience.just as what I said,I do not like android,even android on omnia7 is possible.

You should go buy Galaxy S II instead.

Android for omnia7? I'm in! Will donate, how much?

news about android on omnia?

with WP7 Downloader Ver 7.41 for Publish (Add OASIS Latin).rar we should be able to inject android into i8700 veins (as well as ios, probably)

Is something new in this thread ?

No obviously not. The last post was last year. There's not going to be Android on Omnia7 at all.
Sent from my Windows Phone

UranusHertz said:
I find this query odd too. I can understand it if it is the HD2 forum or any WM6.x devices.
There are tons of Android devices with specs equal or superior to the Omnia 7 (like the Galaxy S2). So why bother asking to put Android on the Omnia 7? Just get an Android device.
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Omnia 7 and Focus are now old enough to be cheaper than equivalent android phones. a 2nd hand HD2 cost about $250 on ebay because everyone who knows about what it can do wants one to play with still. the Samsung Focus costs approx $130.
So if you can run android on it. the resale value of your samsung focus (and omnia 7 because it is similar hardware) will increase.

Guys, you bought yourself a WP, because you wanted a WP.
So, why even start thinking about Android?
Yes, I know, my signature, says, that I've go a Droid. I'd actually prefer a WP, a Samsung WP, to be exact...
I only took an Android, because the German Telecom doesn't have any Samsung WP's anymore...
Back to the point;
WHO CARE'S ABOUT ANDROID??? IT'S CRAP!!!
Believe, me, I'm using one... -.-"

familyguy59 said:
Guys, you bought yourself a WP, because you wanted a WP.
So, why even start thinking about Android?
Yes, I know, my signature, says, that I've go a Droid. I'd actually prefer a WP, a Samsung WP, to be exact...
I only took an Android, because the German Telecom doesn't have any Samsung WP's anymore...
Back to the point;
WHO CARE'S ABOUT ANDROID??? IT'S CRAP!!!
Believe, me, I'm using one... -.-"
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I'm sure everyone is entitled to an opinion, it seems obvious that the people who are asking for android prefer android. I imagine some people may have bought a WP7 phone thinking it would have more development or more apps or just be different, and now would like to see android developed on the device.
I own a HD2, a phone that runs pretty much every OS and I have installed WP7 and Android (aswell as the stock WM6.5). Originally I liked WM6.5 and the mods for that, android was not for me ... infact when WP7 came out I was tempted to get a new phone, when WP7 was made available for HD2 I tried it and my personal opinion is what it does it does well, but it is very limited and closed. My opinion on android has now changed with developments and apps etc and now my phone stays in android mode 99% of the time.
I know people who own the omnia 7 , and as a result i often check here every so often. I thought the idea of this site was development - now you (and various others) may think that development should be limited to the OS that the phone originally came with, but using that logic my beloved HD2 would most likely be gathering dust right about now...

D.J.Steve is willing to TRY and port Android to the DVP

No flames please. If you like WP7 and think Android is crap then do not read or respond to this thread.
On the other hand, if you like the DVP but think the hardware is garbage then read on.
I've been spearheading an effort to get Android ported over to the DELL Venue Pro. I'm no developer or hacker, but I am trying to keep things organized and focused.
Here is my thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13920817
Now, Dell Streak 5/7 developer extrodinare is willing to try his hand and the DVP. He's not promising anything other than a best effort, but that's all we can ever ask of any community dev.
Anyone interested in helping, please let me know.
-Martin
Sent like a Streak of Light from Spidey, my Dell Streak 5

Am interested in seeing andriod on my dvp.. Bring it fast..

figured it's coming. DVP already got an android cousin to begin with.

why ruin something that works? I have had every dell device with android and it doesn't hold a candle to windows phone...
i would think more people would want a port of windows to the streak and venue

This would be interesting to see. As much as I like WP7 I wouldn't mind having the ability to switch between the two. Also, if he can get it to work maybe the method used can help with further development for WP7 stuff on DVP's.

Krad said:
why ruin something that works? I have had every dell device with android and it doesn't hold a candle to windows phone...
i would think more people would want a port of windows to the streak and venue
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Please read my original post and please don't be a troll.
Sent like a Streak of Light from Spidey, my Dell Streak 5

i am in if its dual boot..love win phone and like android too..would be really nice to be able to use both...

I face the following problems mentioned below. Except this windows rocks. If these issues are solved than its gr8.
1)USSD.
2)Bluetooth File transfer.

dishant.shahani said:
I face the following problems mentioned below. Except this windows rocks. If these issues are solved than its gr8.
1)USSD.
2)Bluetooth File transfer.
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i had the first problem too...but after all the updates, ussd runs fine now...

nutnithin said:
i had the first problem too...but after all the updates, ussd runs fine now...
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which update solved this problem?? please tell me..

it was after the mango update on my dvp...can run ussd now fine..

Willing to help how I can
I already PM'd DJ Steve about this but Ill put it public here as well. Through a non-profit license my org has access to up to 200 units DVP's at $30 each.
NOTE: I AM NOT/ WILL NOT/ CAN NOT SELL THESE PHONES TO ANYONE
If it will help the process, or even just get it going- I could be willing to distribute.. I dunno, 5 or 10 of these to any developers that DJ Steve deemed worthy, or to him to distribute as needed.
No scheme, just that these would be REALLY useful to my organization if we could get them running Android - as Windows phones... ttheyre basically just $30 cameras and Skype phones as far as our needs are concerned.
heres the techsoup link if there are any other Non-Profits interested> ** I cant post links yet but its on the techsoup.org website under products>Dell. **
I dont know all the legal aspects of it, but if there are professional developers out there interested, it may even be possible for you to donate your 'time' as a Charitable Donation (ie tax write-off) - Again Im not a lawyer and that proposition might be completely unlawful, its just a thought- one that I will look into if anyone is interested.
LETS DO THIS!
-PK

DJ_Steve has been out of action for nearly a year, so he doesnt really have time to do anything dev related, much less hack bootloaders for the VP.
Do you have any VPs that are using old versions of WP7? (that wernt flashed with the FFU that is floating around?).
We are missing the URLs for unbranded VPs and the WP7 community as a whole is missing urls for the 8779 update.
Hypothetically if the bootloader was changed, I would assume it would more or less work the the V's roms, since they're like 99% identical hardware wise.