Heat - Galaxy S II General

From: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/...preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked/2
"During our testing and just playing with the Galaxy S II, the phone seemed to get inordinately hot, much hotter than I remember any other smartphone getting."
Has anyone else got any hands on with the SII to back that up? I'm really liking the specs right now but I'm worried about that heat comment. The heat was the biggest issue for me with the original HTC desire along with the battery life. Playing games or even just browsing for an extended period would get the back of the device hot enough that it was uncomfortable holding it. If it's the same with this device that would kill it for me.

Abra_Cadabra said:
From: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4177/...preliminary-performance-mali400-benchmarked/2
"During our testing and just playing with the Galaxy S II, the phone seemed to get inordinately hot, much hotter than I remember any other smartphone getting."
Has anyone else got any hands on with the SII to back that up? I'm really liking the specs right now but I'm worried about that heat comment. The heat was the biggest issue for me with the original HTC desire along with the battery life. Playing games or even just browsing for an extended period would get the back of the device hot enough that it was uncomfortable holding it. If it's the same with this device that would kill it for me.
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Wait for reviews of the released product.
The SGS2 Anandtech tested in Barcelona could be a prototype or preproduction
version.

Also remember it probably was being held by hundreds of people running benchmarks back to back to back.

my desire gets warm after 10-15 minutes of browsing with wifi... i never had a problem with it...

virussnake said:
my desire gets warm after 10-15 minutes of browsing with wifi... i never had a problem with it...
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Where I live it's mostly cold here, and therefore I would like to consider it as a feature

Can´t be worse than HTC HD 2 .............

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Overheating

This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
Well that doesn't sound good! I haven't had anything like that. Have you checked the power intake?
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steve228uk said:
Well that doesn't sound good! I haven't had anything like that. Have you checked the power intake?
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Good point, where can I check the power intake?
Thanks
mwatson said:
This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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Mine got really hot the first day I used it (27/4)...I was just checking out features and installing a few apps. I rebooted it after the battery was fully charged and it's been fine ever since.
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I have the exact same problem, it happens especially when I play any games or intensive appliaction. The battery drains and it gets hot next to the camera, I suspect this is where the cpu lives. Do you think its because its rooted? because I rooted it as soon as I got it so I dont know what it was like before.
And as I am away from the uk for the next six weeks I cant even send it back to O2
No nothing to do with root, mine was same before and after, pretty normal to get hot on some demanding apps.
shohid1234 said:
I have the exact same problem, it happens especially when I play any games or intensive appliaction. The battery drains and it gets hot next to the camera, I suspect this is where the cpu lives. Do you think its because its rooted? because I rooted it as soon as I got it so I dont know what it was like before.
And as I am away from the uk for the next six weeks I cant even send it back to O2
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vimto25 said:
No nothing to do with root, mine was same before and after, pretty normal to get hot on some demanding apps.
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And i thought i was alone...
It gets really hot sometimes though, not to the extent of burnt plastic smell but it gets pretty uncomfortable touching around lens at the back.
I've been going through this this morning. It seems that the CPU loves to go up to 1.2GHz even if it doesn't need to be that high (and it stays there). Also there I've also been noticing through ADB shell that their are a few niggles. For example the wi-fi sharing process can start without even being activated.
For example this was a ADB shell top taken while running Cordy downclocked to 800MHz in setcpu. The phone was a tiny bit warm but only by the camera (where the CPU is). Basically, this just shows that if you are playing a game, nothing else is going on so the CPU shouldn't be going up to 1200MHz. And it plays the same as when it isn't underclocked.
I'm currently assisting Pulser with investigating this until he gets his SGS2.
Fysi said:
I've been going through this this morning. It seems that the CPU loves to go up to 1.2GHz even if it doesn't need to be that high (and it stays there). Also there I've also been noticing through ADB shell that their are a few niggles. For example the wi-fi sharing process can start without even being activated.
I'm currently assisting Pulser with investigating this until he gets his SGS2.
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My phone gets very hot at time too...
I also noticed wifi sharing starting up by itself. Yesterday it started by itself and used 10% battery usage even though I had wifi switched off the entire time..
BoogWeed said:
My phone gets very hot at time too...
I also noticed wifi sharing starting up by itself. Yesterday it started by itself and used 10% battery usage even though I had wifi switched off the entire time..
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Do you have root and Titanium/MyBackup Pro?
If you do, freeze anything that mentions wifi sharing, unless you are going to use wifi hotspot and kies air a lot.
mwatson said:
This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
hpsauce37 said:
I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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Find the nearest Apple store near you.
The only time i had this was when it waa both charging, in a case and playing a big game...
Im currently chatting, listening to a live stream, charging and posting this, no problem with heat at all..
Perhaps its a problem with some specific phones
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SgtDutchyNL said:
The only time i had this was when it waa both charging, in a case and playing a big game...
Im currently chatting, listening to a live stream, charging and posting this, no problem with heat at all..
Perhaps its a problem with some specific phones
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Or with some specific games.
cmd512 said:
Find the nearest Apple store near you.
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LMAO
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hpsauce37 said:
I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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that's just not true.
Mine gets hot aswell .. it's random sometimes but usualy with playing games etc. I suspect it has something to do with the samsung drivers/software and not our tinkering.
Bugs bugs bugs...
Mine also gets fairly hot, which might be a little uncomfortable - but that's the sacrifice you make when you get such a high powered device in such a small space.
Well,amount of apps/tinkering/etc has nothing to do with the phone getting got UNLESS an installed app in messing something up.I have heard many such cases when a rogue app made the CPU run at 100% in different phones.If that's the case you have to find and remove the app.I'd suggest OS monitor for finding it.Never happened to me though!
What's more,it's normal for it to get more hot than your average phone,as it carries more power under the hood and has nothing to help it dissipate the generated heat,as it's plastic.The Desire HD does a very good job with managing heat and I have never exceeded 40 C,even when gaming with an overclock at 1.8GHz and performance governor.Not saying the DHD is better,but Samsung wouldn't have left something like this if it would damage the phone.So I tend to believe that it's designed to get hot.
Mine has overheated twice.
Both times, when trying to pair itself automatically to my car kit. The phone got really really hot (i noticed it warming my leg in my jeans pocket) and needed the battery pulling out to reset it. When it started back up, the running temp was nearly 50 degrees (in standby, it runs at about 27)
Hasn't done it since though, just keeping my eye on it!

How much do you have to stress your Nexus 4 to make it warm?

Hi
I have recently got my Nexus 4 having come from a Desire HD and the phone seems OK but even light use (web browsing, downloading) makes the top half of the back of the N4 noticeably warm
I can understand the phone heating up under benchmark/game stress but heating up just on web browsing?!
Coupled with the poor-ish battery life so far (only on 2nd cycle) I am trying to work out if my N4 is defective or not. Does everyone else's phones warm up this quickly?
Thanks!
singh_uk said:
Hi
I have recently got my Nexus 4 having come from a Desire HD and the phone seems OK but even light use (web browsing, downloading) makes the top half of the back of the N4 noticeably warm
I can understand the phone heating up under benchmark/game stress but heating up just on web browsing?!
Coupled with the poor-ish battery life so far (only on 2nd cycle) I am trying to work out if my N4 is defective or not. Does everyone else's phones warm up this quickly?
Thanks!
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Mine doesn't get overly warm but this is something that's really subjective. I mean, I guess it gets warmer than plastic backed phone but my brain expects that somehow. Maybe it's abnormal though.
singh_uk said:
Hi
I have recently got my Nexus 4 having come from a Desire HD and the phone seems OK but even light use (web browsing, downloading) makes the top half of the back of the N4 noticeably warm
I can understand the phone heating up under benchmark/game stress but heating up just on web browsing?!
Coupled with the poor-ish battery life so far (only on 2nd cycle) I am trying to work out if my N4 is defective or not. Does everyone else's phones warm up this quickly?
Thanks!
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Charge the phone, then unplug it.
And run all tests on GL benchmark, this should heat it up more than any other application
Also, post the results.
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[Q] Playing Games On Nexus 7 Although It's Hot?

Just got myself a Nexus 7 with 3G and Wifi about 3 weeks ago. Overall this is a great tablet and I love it. But playing games on this device will make it heats up quite abit on the back left bottom corner. I knw that every devices nowadays will heat up when playing games, surfing the web or even using mobile data.
And I was wondering, do any of you guys still play games on it when the device gets warm or in between warm or hot? I feel a lil disappointed because the Nexus 7's gaming experience and performance was good but the only downside is it gets warm in about 15 mins and and gets warmer at 30 mins of playing games ( high end games like Dead Trigger etc. ). And it's a pity that I cannot enjoy longer hours of gaming on this device ( which is 1 of the reasons I bought it ).
And also I wanted to ask, can anyone pls tell me how warm or hot is your device when playing games? What I mean was let's say I was playing a high end game and the temperature of the tablet is around 50 c. To me, I might feel that it's a little too hot but to others, they might feel that it's jus warm. Would greatly appreciate all of your answers and advises.
Thank you.
Well, to love something also means to accept it for what it is... So, show it some love... lol! Jokes aside...
It's perfectly normal for a device to heat up when it has to be at a higher clock speed to crunch high levels of data.
This happens to pc's all the time, we dont feel it cuz all the hardware is in a case being cooled by fans. Laptops too, try gaming with a macbook pro on your lap, i swear hard boiled eggs could come out by the end of it. lol! An ipad or even much inferior in performance tablets to the n7 do heat up. Nevertheless things are improving, nowadays processors are getting more power efficient which translates to less heat for the amout of processing power they have, which is much much more compared to the past. Mayb in the future we'll have something with the processing power of a mainframe but as cold as the n7 currently is, then mayb it can be downclocked and downvolted to levels where its as cold as a can of coke while retaining reasonable performance, but it wont happen today...
Yea, the n7 does get warm but if it really bothers you it can be solved if you use a thick sturdy case with it... I use it for that reason, also it seems to prevent screen lift in my case, not to mention protection against accidents =>
50°C isn't very hot, mine gets that hot during normal usage and it can go much higher.
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andrew9292 said:
Well, to love something also means to accept it for what it is... So, show it some love... lol! Jokes aside...
It's perfectly normal for a device to heat up when it has to be at a higher clock speed to crunch high levels of data.
This happens to pc's all the time, we dont feel it cuz all the hardware is in a case being cooled by fans. Laptops too, try gaming with a macbook pro on your lap, i swear hard boiled eggs could come out by the end of it. lol! An ipad or even much inferior in performance tablets to the n7 do heat up. Nevertheless things are improving, nowadays processors are getting more power efficient which translates to less heat for the amout of processing power they have, which is much much more compared to the past. Mayb in the future we'll have something with the processing power of a mainframe but as cold as the n7 currently is, then mayb it can be downclocked and downvolted to levels where its as cold as a can of coke while retaining reasonable performance, but it wont happen today...
Yea, the n7 does get warm but if it really bothers you it can be solved if you use a thick sturdy case with it... I use it for that reason, also it seems to prevent screen lift in my case, not to mention protection against accidents =>
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LoL! Anyway, thank you so much for the reply and explaining. I'd never knew that the ipad would heat up too haha. Do you think I should underclock my device? Well, been trying to use a case but on the opposite side am afraid that the case would trap heat inside the device itself. But Im using it anyway lol... And I have to agree with you cases really do help alot in protection against accidents.
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50°C isn't very hot, mine gets that hot during normal usage and it can go much higher.
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I see. Mine would be about 45-50 c during daily use and gaming. But 1 thing I do notice is that the device is actually not warm at all when I stream and watch videos using the youtube app. Anyway, thanks!.

[Q] Phone overheats while gaming

Hi,
I've been using G2 for the past one week. Within minutes of playing a game( `10 mins), the phone heats up a lot at the back where the camera is placed.
I dont even need to play high end games like NOVA 3. Just regular games like Candy crush, Cut the rope etc heats up my phone real bad.
It heats up so much that its impossible to touch it with your hand.
Please advice if anyone has faced this issue.
Regards
Georgi
mine is not nearly hot enough that it's uncomfortable to hold. Just noticeable and a bit worrisome but no more than most devices I've had in the past.
If it gets so hot you burn your fingers then that's a big deal. But getting warm to hot is normal as far as I can tell. There are apps to check your temperatures. Install one and check the temp. Post your number here and let's see how hot it really is. In the mean time, don't hold your hand near the hottest spot while gaming.
Nearly all phones get warm while gaming, they don't really have a cooling system. As said before, measure the tempature, and see if it is truly something to worry over.
reduce brightness
Close some app that u did`t use...
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georgijmeleth said:
Hi,
I've been using G2 for the past one week. Within minutes of playing a game( `10 mins), the phone heats up a lot at the back where the camera is placed.
I dont even need to play high end games like NOVA 3. Just regular games like Candy crush, Cut the rope etc heats up my phone real bad.
It heats up so much that its impossible to touch it with your hand.
Please advice if anyone has faced this issue.
Regards
Georgi
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It happens to all phones...including the HTC One and the GS4 lol. I've experienced it myself so don't worry about it just lower the brightness and close other apps that are in cache while playing. :silly:
Might be a defective phone I have optimus g and optimus g2 and there the best phones made to date return get a new one probably just deffecrive brother in
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Every smartphone I've owned, when gaming for a period of time...it gets HOT! No fan cooling system on phones. I had iPhones, S2, S2 skyrocket, Galaxy Note, HTC One...all gets HOT when gaming. Even my iPad2. As long as you're not getting first degree burns and the phone isn't melting, it is quite normal for it to get hot. But if you feel that something isn't right, go exchange it.
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Phone getting hot easily

As the title says, my phone gets hot really easily with simple usage. Today I was just changing my ring tones and notifications sounds and it became warm (not that hot) where it shouldn't have, with such light usage. And then I played a game for about 10 minutes and the device got hot and was untouchable. The game and UI started to lag too.
This is my replacement phone, the first phone did the same. But I think this one is worse.
During normal usage it does get hot (very uncomfortable), but it won't lag.
My phone is always above 40-42C.
Is it due to my climate?
Or should I get another replacement.
Please help me on this, I can't really figure out if it's the phone or me getting defective devices.
edios123 said:
As the title says, my phone gets hot really easily with simple usage. Today I was just changing my ring tones and notifications sounds and it became warm (not that hot) where it shouldn't have, with such light usage. And then I played a game for about 10 minutes and the device got hot and was untouchable. The game and UI started to lag too.
This is my replacement phone, the first phone did the same. But I think this one is worse.
During normal usage it does get hot (very uncomfortable), but it won't lag.
My phone is always above 40-42C.
Is it due to my climate?
Or should I get another replacement.
Please help me on this, I can't really figure out if it's the phone or me getting defective devices.
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I had the same problem when it was summer where I am. The SD810 is terrible when it comes to heating up, and the lag you experienced is due to the chip throttling back from the heat. Is it hot weather where you are?
Heisenberg said:
I had the same problem when it was summer where I am. The SD810 is terrible when it comes to heating up, and the lag you experienced is due to the chip throttling back from the heat. Is it hot weather where you are?
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The weather is indeed hot nowadays. But the problem is, if the phone heats so much on simple usage, then what is the purpose of owning this smartphone..? :| I'm really disappointed considering I changed my previous device cos of overheating (Note 4).
What's confusing me is, some reviews/reports say this phone is cooler than the S6 /Edge. But my friend has one and it doesn't heat this much at all.
My dad's 6S Plus runs insanely cool (compared to my 6P).
Should I go for another repair/replacement? I've already wasted 1 month waiting for a replacement.
Everything else is amazing on this phone (except the DAC of course) .
Edit: the battery is also disappointing(like 4:30 to 5:00 average). I guess it's due to the phone heating up quickly.
edios123 said:
The weather is indeed hot nowadays. But the problem is, if the phone heats so much on simple usage, then what is the purpose of owning this smartphone..? :| I'm really disappointed considering I changed my previous device cos of overheating (Note 4).
What's confusing me is, some reviews/reports say this phone is cooler than the S6 /Edge. But my friend has one and it doesn't heat this much at all.
My dad's 6S Plus runs insanely cool (compared to my 6P).
Should I go for another repair/replacement? I've already wasted 1 month waiting for a replacement.
Everything else is amazing on this phone (except the DAC of course) .
Edit: the battery is also disappointing(like 4:30 to 5:00 average). I guess it's due to the phone heating up quickly.
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Didn't you research this phone and its chipset before buying? The SD810 is well known for this. I think most reports that say the phone runs cool were written just after release, which was just as the North American winter was taking hold. You could try getting a replacement but I'm fairly confident that this is a problem with the chip.
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Didn't you research this phone and its chipset before buying? The SD810 is well known for this. I think most reports that say the phone runs cool were written just after release, which was just as the North American winter was taking hold. You could try getting a replacement but I'm fairly confident that this is a problem with the chip.
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I chose this phone over the Note 5. I heard there's absolutely no heating issues with the Nexus 6P and the 810 is implemented well in this phone.
My MacBook Pro started to heat much more than it did a few months ago too. But I can't confirm it's because of the weather because it might be some new software I installed or anything.
But the thing that bugs me is, even Yureka, a budget phone, which is known as a heater, heats only like my Nexus 6P or maybe sometimes it's even better at handling heat.
My display is very very yellow too.
This phone is literally the hottest phone ever!
Two minutes of web browsing and the upper portion would have already gotten quite warm.
I think it's getting worse lately, maybe because of the aging of the thermal compound.
ALUOp said:
This phone is literally the hottest phone ever!
Two minutes of web browsing and the upper portion would have already gotten quite warm.
I think it's getting worse lately, maybe because of the aging of the thermal compound.
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Agree. I think the aging of the thermal compound is def going to make thermal throttling worse over time. Plus the thermal compound they used is absolute crap. It had a marshmallow like texture. For those able, I'd consider doing the thermal hard mod posted here. Even if instead of the thermal pad you just replace the crap thermal compound with good stuff. The phone is not nearly as difficult to disassemble and some make it out to be.
You've got a Nexus, go ahead and get your root. Custom kernels like EX do pretty well with excess heat management.
EX kicks in an optional hexacore mode just in case your phone gets mad on heat (generally while charging).
Custom kernels are great in that respect.

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