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Samsung we know you are here

Can we please sign up for official beta testing froyo, we don't want cash just a free device every 2 years.
Lets make it official, sign on if you would like to be included
Please leave cynicism out of this thread.
Its cheap labour as it is
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tbh i would test if for lot less NOW!

ten chars!!!

Are there beta testers for devices or android systems?
If not I am not sure why pc apps use beta testing and not android
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I'll be more than happy to try out any alpha & beta releases of any Android products
just being able to play with the latest and greatest is more than enough joy for me

Moved to General forum. The development forum is only for development threads. (Threads with actual development happening.)
Questions should always be in the General forums (or Q&A if your device has a Q&A forum.)

I would be very interested in testing for free devices

Add me to the list.
I'd love to do some beta testing!!!

dan 6a said:
Are there beta testers for devices or android systems?
If not I am not sure why pc apps use beta testing and not android
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yeah, samsung calls them customers

Would be cool of this came off, count me in.
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안녕하세요 삼성. 저도 Beta 시험하고싶습니다. 많은 도움이될겁니다. Hi Samsung, I'd love to beta test any of your programs for the Galaxy S. I have the Vibrant from T-Mo. Thanks~
hope this works typed in Korean as well haha..

I'd test my brains out if you ask me. Count me in too
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You can definitely count me in

alpha testing Android 3.0 is also ok

I'm sure plenty of people around here would be interested in such a scheme, myself included! As to whether it would come to pass..

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dan 6a said:
Please leave cynicism out of this thread.
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Seriously? Please? I think this thread needs a pretty epic dose of it.

It would be great if there was an employee of Samsung / HTC / other phone manufacturers as a contact point between the dev community and the manufacturers themselves.
Eg: to look through forums such as this, see what everyone's saying, keep us posted on news and dates and seek honest feedback from us.
The only people who look through XDA are those interested in modding and installing custom firmwares anyway, so regular consumers would gain the benefit of us testing the stuff out without them having to be aware of it.
Plus, one of the deciding factors of many enthusiasts when buying a new Android phone is the dev community and support, so you can guarantee they would gain at least a few more sales from those interested.

AXIS of Reality said:
It would be great if there was an employee of Samsung / HTC / other phone manufacturers as a contact point between the dev community and the manufacturers themselves.
Eg: to look through forums such as this, see what everyone's saying, keep us posted on news and dates and seek honest feedback from us.
[....].
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That will make them way too vurnerable and the benefits will never justify the costs. The game they play is how to make as much as profit as one can. From that perspective things are good if and only if the sales figures are good. So, for them, sales figures are all the feedback they need

If they did do such a scheme, it would be in Korea.

XDA/Samsung

Hello Guys,
My name is John, I recently became the social media analyst at Samsung mobile. I wanted to start opening the lines of communication between XDA and Samsung. First I wanted to say I have noticed your work on our devices on the XDA forums. I think you guys do an outstanding job, I myself am a developer for mobile devices. So let’s get down to business, we’re going to be in Austin from March 10-15 for the SXSW(south by southwest http://sxsw.com/convention). I was wondering if any of you guys are going so that we could meet up and share a couple of ideas I have. I am looking forward to meeting some of you GREAT developers!
Thanks in advance,
John
Developer/Social Media Analyst
Samsung Mobile USA
Twitter: @SamsungJohn

Welcome! I'm curious to know what a "social media analyst" does.

Hi John. I'm surprised this thread isn't a little more lively.

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Hi John. I'm surprised this thread isn't a little more lively.
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Perhaps everyone is waiting to see who will be the first to ask him about the Froyo update!

Hey SamsungJohn, could you please tell Samsung to make a device like the Xperia Play?

bjhill2112 said:
Welcome! I'm curious to know what a "social media analyst" does.
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Sounds like he gets paid to stalk people on Facebook! I want a job like that! Oh wait, I kind of get to do that already except my employer doesn't know about it. In all seriousness there needs to be more communication between manufacturers and developers and even users. So many times it seems like someone who is sitting in an office disconnected from the world is the one making decisions. I hope this does become a positive thing and not just some PR BS that one of those people sitting in that isolated offices came up with to try and quiet down the natives because the have became restless and the shouts are starting to be heard inside the palace walls. Time will tell.
Welcome!

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Perhaps everyone is waiting to see who will be the first to ask him about the Froyo update!
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lol I'm tempted, but I don't want to get flamed haha.
Anyway, welcome John! It's good to know that we can get somewhat of a direct communication toward Samsung because this community does have a lot to offer (and a lot of complaining).
Hope we can help.

SamsungJohn said:
Hello Guys,
My name is John, I recently became the social media analyst at Samsung mobile. I wanted to start opening the lines of communication between XDA and Samsung. First I wanted to say I have noticed your work on our devices on the XDA forums. I think you guys do an outstanding job, I myself am a developer for mobile devices. So let’s get down to business, we’re going to be in Austin from March 10-15 for the SXSW(south by southwest http://sxsw.com/convention). I was wondering if any of you guys are going so that we could meet up and share a couple of ideas I have. I am looking forward to meeting some of you GREAT developers!
Thanks in advance,
John
Developer/Social Media Analyst
Samsung Mobile USA
Twitter: @SamsungJohn
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I might get flamed for this, but I think this post would actually be better off in the Development forum. I don't think a lot of the developers spend time reading general because of all the drama and arguing that tends to go on here. Maybe a mod can make a judgment call and move it over there.

Hey where is the froyo source john? I had to ask.
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Well, if you are really the social media analyst, let me sum up what social media should have told you already.
-We want greater communication from Samsung/Sprint with regards to updates. We don't need solid dates, but we would like to know that you are working on it and a general idea where/what is going on.
-We would like for you to upgrade our phones to Froyo and then to Gingerbread.
-We would like for you to enable this:http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/10/immersions-motiv-development-platform-integrates-haptics-into-a/
since our phones are capable of it but do not currently have the software needed.
That pretty much sums up everything. We know you aren't going to dropping Touch Wiz. We know you aren't going to be porting Honeycomb to our devices. We just want greater communication and for Samsung to start treating this phone as if they actually thought it was important to them.

Hi John, Lets get down to buisness...... We need the source code for the modem, without that there is no buisness here. Thankyou

Stalker
Lol no I'm not a stalker! As I said before I am a developer as well. To summarize, a Social Media Analyst exist for the customer. So, me being a developer I have an understanding of our devices in and out; From the Social Media side, i have a feel for the customer. That's why I'm here to establish a partnership with you guys!

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Hi John. I'm surprised this thread isn't a little more lively.
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Why should it be?
People for the most part, at least those that post on the various forums out there, don't really care anymore for Samsung than they do for Sprint at the moment for the lack of care on putting out updates to the Epic 4g. Sure an official Froyo update would be nice, but most Epic 4g owners have given up hope and aren't holding their breath for any update. Thank you Samsung, and Sprint!

SamsungJohn said:
Lol no I'm not a stalker! As I said before I am a developer as well. To summarize, a Social Media Analyst exist for the customer. So, me being a developer I have an understanding of our devices in and out; From the Social Media side, i have a feel for the customer. That's why I'm here to establish a partnership with you guys!
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Well I'm glad to see some one from samsung loking at this now u can see that a lot of people are very upset waiting for a simple update. Most people now just want the source code it be great if u can just help out our great devs here by just giving us that. Thanks
sent from my Epic S

SamsungJohn said:
Lol no I'm not a stalker! As I said before I am a developer as well. To summarize, a Social Media Analyst exist for the customer. So, me being a developer I have an understanding of our devices in and out; From the Social Media side, i have a feel for the customer. That's why I'm here to establish a partnership with you guys!
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So you understand that the biggest thing we need is access to the kernel source code?
Good, now go tell your boss, and his/her boss.
Tell them that they need to do whatever is necessary to get this released.
They are generating a whole lot of angry customers because of their total lack of support.
We've had some decent advancements despite not having source code.
The title of this thread explains it.
ps-- I do have my reservations as to whether or not you actually work for Samsung.
=]

Partnership
I am the real deal, I don't mind posting my badge or something that would establish credibility. I know you guys have a lot of questions for me about updates. We will get to that in a bit. My main purpose today is to let you know that I have been watching your work and i must say it is great. I want to establish a partnership with you guys!

John can u at least respond to questions honestly about a froyo or gingerbread update for the epic? you and the rest of the samsng team on twitter cannot provide us with anyting but "asap" , "will tweet more as soon as we know".
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ps-- I do have my reservations as to whether or not you actually work for Samsung.
=][/QUOTE]
Yeah, this sounds lame, sounds like someone is stirring the pot. If you are who you say you are, put this personal message in for me and about a dozen of my friends, speed it up or at least give our devs something new to work with.
Im all for some serious interactions with an insider, remove the black cloud of mystery.
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SamsungJohn said:
I am the real deal, I don't mind posting my badge or something that would establish credibility. I know you guys have a lot of questions for me about updates. We will get to that in a bit. My main purpose today is to let you know that I have been watching your work and i must say it is great. I want to establish a partnership with you guys!
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My suggestion for you to get more attention to this partnership with XDA is to look in the Development section for the Epic and Private Message those who make the ROMs.

I here everything your saying, I will provide proof later that work for Samsung. Ill take a picture of my badge or something for you guys.
P.s. I am my boss

XDA/Samsung

Hello Guys,
My name is John, I recently became the social media analyst at Samsung mobile. I wanted to start opening the lines of communication between XDA and Samsung. First I wanted to say I have noticed your work on our devices on the XDA forums. I think you guys do an outstanding job, I myself am a developer for mobile devices. So let’s get down to business, we’re going to be in Austin from March 10-15 for the SXSW(south by southwest http://sxsw.com/convention). I was wondering if any of you guys are going so that we could meet up and share a couple of ideas I have. I am looking forward to meeting some of you GREAT developers!
Thanks in advance,
John
Developer/Social Media Analyst
Samsung Mobile USA
Twitter: @SamsungJohn

Welcome John! I have to say I'm quite impressed that Samsung or even just you as an employee are taking the initiative to come here and commune with our development community. I hope this is the start of a wonderful 3rd and 1st party development exchanging of ideas!
Sent from my SubCyan CM7 Google Nexus S!

Welcome John,
Great to see an official employee from Samsung.
My question is, do you believe samsung in the future, will enable 720p playback on the nexus s ?

welcome to our wonderfull forums. frankly im impressed that there is an "official" line of communication started in xda from samsung. lets keep it going and lets watch the relationship blossom

Welcome John, glad to have a Samsung employee browsing xda.
JeeChan said:
My question is, do you believe samsung in the future, will enable 720p playback on the nexus s ?
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@JeeChan that's for Google to decide, not Samsung

I like. Thanks john!
Sent from CM7 Nexus S

Hey John how high are you in the Samsung chain? If your extremely high can i ask you...... WHEN THE HECK ARE THE OTHER US CARRIERS GETTING FROYO ON THEIR GALAXY S DEVICES. I DIDN'T WANNA HAVE have to root BUT I JUST MIGHT HAVE TO. Or pay extra and get the inspire. I'm sorry. But I've been driven to the brink. I'm never buying anymore Samsung. You guys were my first phone, but ur updates and lag built in to the software aren't worth it.
Sent from my iDon"t care what u say its not an iPhone or a Droid, its a Captivate.

Hey John, just want to echo others comments that it's very impressive that a Samsung employee would begin a dialogue here at XDA. Look forward to seeing you jump in the forums and offer your suggestions.

Aztecbandit said:
Hey John how high are you in the Samsung chain? If your extremely high can i ask you...... WHEN THE HECK ARE THE OTHER US CARRIERS GETTING FROYO ON THEIR GALAXY S DEVICES. I DIDN'T WANNA HAVE have to root BUT I JUST MIGHT HAVE TO. Or pay extra and get the inspire. I'm sorry. But I've been driven to the brink. I'm never buying anymore Samsung. You guys were my first phone, but ur updates and lag built in to the software aren't worth it.
Sent from my iDon"t care what u say its not an iPhone or a Droid, its a Captivate.
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Why are you asking him that question here? Come on people. Spamming John with questions in every topic he creates isn't going to get you an answer. Stay in your Captivate forum if you're going to ask him questions regarding Galaxy S phones.

Hi John
Welcome to XDA Developers.
It's quite a surprise to see a real person from any company wishing to participate together.
I've alerted the Senior people and Admins, some one will be in touch with you shortly.
Enjoy your stay.
A.G.
SamsungJohn said:
Hello Guys,
My name is John, I recently became the social media analyst at Samsung mobile. I wanted to start opening the lines of communication between XDA and Samsung. First I wanted to say I have noticed your work on our devices on the XDA forums. I think you guys do an outstanding job, I myself am a developer for mobile devices. So let’s get down to business, we’re going to be in Austin from March 10-15 for the SXSW(south by southwest http://sxsw.com/convention). I was wondering if any of you guys are going so that we could meet up and share a couple of ideas I have. I am looking forward to meeting some of you GREAT developers!
Thanks in advance,
John
Developer/Social Media Analyst
Samsung Mobile USA
Twitter: @SamsungJohn
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[occupy nvidia]how you can help

First of all I'm no trying to troll nor spam, I am a T-mobile G2x user and over at the G2x forums we started a thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360051 this thread is to get nvidia to release the source code for the tegra 2 chip, this way we can get more stable roms and yes fully functional ICS build.
I'm only doing this because the Atrix uses the same tegra 2 chip, thanks for your understanding.

I sent mine!
http://developer.nvidia.com/contact

Just to let you know, Nvidia is in no way required to release drivers for their SoC. That stuff is completely proprietary and doesn't fall under the GPL.

i sent mine!

Submitted!

Occupy ?
Dont think so, we're not pirates. I've sent an email to nvidia.
Hello,
Please release source code for the Tegra2, so the developers can support our mobile devices and tablets better and faster. I want to take more advantage of the Tegra2 chip inside my Motorola Atrix 4g and hoping that you could give the community a hand about this.
Regards, Sinan.
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edgeicator said:
Just to let you know, Nvidia is in no way required to release drivers for their SoC. That stuff is completely proprietary and doesn't fall under the GPL.
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We are all aware of this, but maybe with a shot of luck they decide to help developers, and release at least some code.
Even Microsoft has released some of their code to the GPL.
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Also submitted. Regardless of what may come out of this, at least we tried.

Submitted!

I don't want to hijack the other thread. But I think the best action you can take is generate some publicity from the media.
Go to Engadget. http://www.engadget.com/
There should be a red 'Tip US' on the right hand side of the webpage. Let the problem get on the main page of Engadget.
Thank you/

Email sent.

Email sent - also if anyone is wondering what to say, here is what i sent to them...may not be perfect but it gets the job done:
Hello. I am writing today to ask that you please release the source code for the Tegra 2 chip to the public.
As you most likely know, the android os has a very large developer community. With this community comes ground breaking software development and can also make an already great product become an even bigger product.
An example would be Samsung hiring the lead developer of the CyanogenMod7 custom Rom for Android.
They also gave the team one of their latest devices for further testing.
Now that device is one of the most sold Android phones of 2011.
The Tegra chip has a following already because of the little bit of development that we have been able to squeeze out of it with out the help of Nvidia. (source code)
But we believe and know that we can develop upon it even further and show Nvidia and others what the Tegra is really capable of. Which in turn will bring more interest to the chip and devices that carry the chip and that just means more sales.
It is only a win-win situation.
Thank you for reading.
Sincerely
a Nvidia customer.

you guys are asking for specific stuff in a very generic matter. nvidia has a git hub with tons of stuff already! and im sure if you ask them for ics tegra2 drivers for the atrix or g2x they will deliver.
as for nvidia helping devs, its happend!

sent mine
i did sent mine.
hope this count.

Sent it, couldn't copy the message though...
---------- Post added at 07:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:28 PM ----------
Oh yea change the thread title to:
"Release the Tegra" Movement Thread [& how you can help] [Atrix]
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Then fix your post. Make it look professional so If any of the Nvidia Dev's see it, they'ed take it seriously...
Hey Guys,
I am a T-mobile G2x user and over at the G2x forums we started a thread, [ics2g2x] [occupy nvidia]how you can help!. This request thread is to get Nvidia to release the source code for the tegra 2 chip, this way we can get more stable roms and yes a fully functional ICS build.
You can help in multiple ways. It doesn't matter how you help, as long as you did that becomes a +1 support for this thread!
1. Call them at (408) 486-2000 and ask for developer relations.
2. Email them at http://developer.nvidia.com/contact. Make sure your info is accurate so that they'll accept it.
3. Advertise this thread at places like Engadget or some other well known information website.
4. Get creative do something that we haven't listed up here, anything counts... (As long as it's good)
I'm only doing this because the Atrix uses the same tegra 2 chip, thanks for your understanding.
Support Count:
1. cervantesjc
2. WiredPirate
3. edgeicator
4. picaron1
5. OSNPA
6. Semseddin
7. vinay427
8. cption
9. Jibraldor
10. J-Roc
11. hormosapiens
12. Alaq
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Copy and paste this into your post if you feel lazy. And update the Support Count every 1-2 days to keep this going.

I agree with changing the title in case anyone from nvidia see the thread.
however, I would leave any sort of "occupy" verbiage out. due to the recent media coverage of everything "occupy" related, it's not entirely a positive way to bring about change to what we want as far as code.
it seems a tad bit brutish to use that word to request something at this point.
imo.
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ifalldownalot said:
I agree with changing the title in case anyone from nvidia see the thread.
however, I would leave any sort of "occupy" verbiage out. due to the recent media coverage of everything "occupy" related, it's not entirely a positive way to bring about change to what we want as far as code.
it seems a tad bit brutish to use that word to request something at this point.
imo.
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Yea it might cause some problems.... Fixed:
"Release the Tegra" Movement Thread [& how you can help] [Atrix]
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Semseddin said:
we're not pirates.
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Speak for yourself lol.

Yeah, the thread title is a bad (polarizing) choice imho. I have enough trouble occupying my own space. And I certainly don't want to be seen in any sort of occupy movement. I work for what I have/want/need (and as an added bonus, to support the wants/needs of the occupiers, hurray for me!). But since the spirit of the thread isn't that sort of nonsense, I'm in. Message sent.
And no griping at me because I bit at the title... It was just sitting there staring at me with those "I want your stuff" and "Are you crazy? No I don't want to work for it" eyes...

Since I never do anything at work I will send them an email, spread this around, contact engadget, gizmodo, and more. I really want the ATRIX to become active. Its been dead around here a little.
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[INDEX] Community help with marketing

Community help with marketing
Here on XDA I have seen many members collaborate which is great. Nobody is perfect but we can combine our knowledge and create something which is really amazing. This is one of the reasons I like XDA for. :good:
Currently there are threads for developers who are looking for testers, translators and designers.
However, it is a shame if we create fantastic apps and nobody is downloading them.
To bring the collaboration to the next level I set up this thread.
Developers, here are your marketing experts.
This thread is divided into different sections for different purposes.
If you want to participate, send me a PM with a link to your profile and tell me what you are skilled in. I will add you to the list.
Search Engine Optimization (SEO):
Your app needs to be found using search.
Waiting for you to be the first one...
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Demo videos and screenshots:
If you present your app in an app store, the first thing in addition to the description your consumers see are the screenshots and the demo video. Providing a demo video is a huge advantage. It is one of the best opportunities to present your app to your costumer.
Mrtoxicgamer10
Waiting for you to be the second one...
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App reviews:
One of the most important criteria for the user will be app recommendations and reviews on websites. So here is a list of people with app review sites:
kornett (http://androidki.com)
out of ideas (http://androidsexplained.com/reviews.php)
Hectopixel (http://www.appdorado.com)
More to come...
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(Check out this thread as well: Beam me Up Scotty !)

Reserved.
Big thanks to @QuantumFoam for the idea. :good:
By the way, if you have got ideas for new categories, tell me.

Cheers. This will help us app developers a lot
Sent from my Nexus⁴

Yooo man you always come up with something special for us Developers...
Cheers!!

Really great idea and something i could do with right about now! Hope this goes to plan
Cheers

If I have the time, I'll see if I can write up a more comprehensive marketing guide covering the pricing and promotion strategies and aspects of marketing. Both are really important, especially for this market, and quite a few times I've seen apps that seem to have potential hindered by a not-so-smart/appropriate pricing/promotion strategy that the dev have in place :/

SammiSaysHello said:
If I have the time, I'll see if I can write up a more comprehensive marketing guide covering the pricing and promotion strategies and aspects of marketing. Both are really important, especially for this market, and quite a few times I've seen apps that seem to have potential hindered by a not-so-smart/appropriate pricing/promotion strategy that the dev have in place :/
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Would be amazing! :good:

Added app reviews category.

Exchange Reviews with other developers
Today Android marketing is very expensive right now, so why not a review exchange?
androidki[.]com
Androidki is a exchange review web totally for free, your app can be reviewed by the web authors and also by other users in the web.
Also reviews are schema.org standarized so the reviews will also appear on google results
Best of luck with your android app!
:cyclops:

kornett said:
Today Android marketing is very expensive right now, so why not a review exchange?
androidki[.]com
Androidki is a exchange review web totally for free, your app can be reviewed by the web authors and also by other users in the web.
Also reviews are schema.org standarized so the reviews will also appear on google results
Best of luck with your android app!
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Looks like a cool website. Thanks.
I will add it.
(Sorry for not answering before. I was not at home, so I was unable to answer.)

Thank you! It is hard marketing an app! Specially when there is SO MANY!! This is a very helpful subject

Gabilheri said:
Thank you! It is hard marketing an app! Specially when there is SO MANY!! This is a very helpful subject
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Yeah, I hope that there will be more people participating.

nikwen said:
Yeah, I hope that there will be more people participating.
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Well I guess I'll toss my hat into the ring for some more reviews.
I'm doing a little android blog/review thing. It's in VERY early beta and i'm playing with it everyday so it'll be changing plenty.
http://androidsexplained.com/reviews.php
That's the reviews page, I already got a few big apps up, and bunch more I have to upload.
Basically its gonna be the standard bigger apps, and I want to have a good section focusing on the smaller and indie developers. Give some love back to XDA and all that.
Every little bit helps, so if you need a review feel free to message me on here or mail me at [email protected]

out of ideas said:
Well I guess I'll toss my hat into the ring for some more reviews.
I'm doing a little android blog/review thing. It's in VERY early beta and i'm playing with it everyday so it'll be changing plenty.
http://androidsexplained.com/reviews.php
That's the reviews page, I already got a few big apps up, and bunch more I have to upload.
Basically its gonna be the standard bigger apps, and I want to have a good section focusing on the smaller and indie developers. Give some love back to XDA and all that.
Every little bit helps, so if you need a review feel free to message me on here or mail me at [email protected]
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Thanks a lot.
Added. :good:

Great idea, I just sent an app for review to the links you provided. Thanks!
instalatorapp.co.nr

Great ideas here.
I've launched a game one week ago and it's really hard to be discovered and increase visibility.

Hartok said:
Great ideas here.
I've launched a game one week ago and it's really hard to be discovered and increase visibility.
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Yeah, that's right. I hope that more people will be participating.

Thanks!
Thanks for this great thread! I have sent a link for Review to androidsexplained of my game Number Play Free on google playstore. This game is published by Kjas Labs.
It is a Educational Brain Game suitable for all age groups.

Mispost

Hartok said:
Great ideas here.
I've launched a game one week ago and it's really hard to be discovered and increase visibility.
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Seeing your avatar, I guess that it is Feed the Sheep.