How do google backups work with two phones on the same acct? - myTouch 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have two phones using the same primary account. I have disabled the backup data to google option, because I don't want my app settings on both phones to be identical. Does anyone know if this backup feature is smart enough to keep the data from different phones separate? Or will my settings be overwritten with settings from the other phone for apps that back up to google?

I have the same account on 3 phones... MT4G, MT3G-Slide (backup phone) and a SamSux Behold 2 that I loaded with games and pulled the Dialer.apk and SMS/MMS.apk out so my 8yr old could have it (she calls it her "Android Touch because iPods suck") and Google backup only restores what was on each particular phone.
Example : I swapped out the ROMs on my MT3G-S today and when I logged into Google it only re-downloaded the apps that were on that phone before I wiped and installed new ROM, it did NOT include any of the apps or games I have on just the MT4G or just on the BH2.
EDIT : if you go to https://market.android.com/ after logging in with your account you will see "My Market Account" click that and on the left you'll see a tab labeled "Settings". when you click that you will see every android phone you have used that gmail account for.

I thought (possibly incorrectly) that "Back up data with my Google Account" only took effect when replacing your phone. For that reason I have it turned off on my 3 devices, but maybe I am being too cautious?

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Something weird happend with my phone...

While on vacation this past weekend, my phone decided to go ahead and crap out on me..
I laid down for a nap, without plugging the phone in (15% battery left at the time) set the alarm for an hour, woke up 4 hours later. phone died either before the alarm could go off or when it was about to go off.
I plug in the phone for a half hour or so...
After a reboot due to a drained battery I got the new phone "Touch here" screen accompanied by a bunch of Force Close messages for just about every app that launches at start up: Launcher Pro, Weather Channel, Handcent, etc...
WTF?! random. I reboot, remove battery, reboot, reboot again: end up having to do a factory wipe. Wipe is a success, all of my contacts, calender info, email is synced, but none of my apps, games or bookmarks.
When I switched from TMO to Verizon I was pleasantly surprised to see all of my games and apps (free from market) were automatically downloaded and installed to my new phone by the time I got home.
Is this a Google feature? If so, how do I see if it's enabled/working properly.
If this is NOT a Google feature, what is it? How did my Droid X know what apps I had installed on my prior phone, where is this list remotely stored?
What exactly does "Backup Assistant" in "settings" back up? "Backed up = 17" that value has been the same since I did the wipe. What are those 17 items.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
derrrface said:
While on vacation this past weekend, my phone decided to go ahead and crap out on me..
I laid down for a nap, without plugging the phone in (15% battery left at the time) set the alarm for an hour, woke up 4 hours later. phone died either before the alarm could go off or when it was about to go off.
I plug in the phone for a half hour or so...
After a reboot due to a drained battery I got the new phone "Touch here" screen accompanied by a bunch of Force Close messages for just about every app that launches at start up: Launcher Pro, Weather Channel, Handcent, etc...
WTF?! random. I reboot, remove battery, reboot, reboot again: end up having to do a factory wipe. Wipe is a success, all of my contacts, calender info, email is synced, but none of my apps, games or bookmarks.
When I switched from TMO to Verizon I was pleasantly surprised to see all of my games and apps (free from market) were automatically downloaded and installed to my new phone by the time I got home.
Is this a Google feature? If so, how do I see if it's enabled/working properly.
If this is NOT a Google feature, what is it? How did my Droid X know what apps I had installed on my prior phone, where is this list remotely stored?
What exactly does "Backup Assistant" in "settings" back up? "Backed up = 17" that value has been the same since I did the wipe. What are those 17 items.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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The reason that your apps synced to your VZW phone is that information is stored as a part of your google account (gmail) so when you synced it to another phone, it pulled the information down for your account. You can disable this in that particular account's settings (backup my data to google...). The data is stored on Google's servers...
As far as backup assistant... This just backs up contact info that you explicitly saved to the phone, not to any google account. So if you manually entered numbers into the phone, but they are not associated with any google account you have synced to the phone, VZW's backup assistant will back these up.
I recommend relying more on Google...but it is merely a personal preference.
SysAdmin-X said:
The reason that your apps synced to your VZW phone is that information is stored as a part of your google account (gmail) so when you synced it to another phone, it pulled the information down for your account. You can disable this in that particular account's settings (backup my data to google...). The data is stored on Google's servers...
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I do have "Back up my data" enabled under "Privacy Settings" as I always enable such settings after a wipe. What I would like to determine is *IF* that list of my apps, bookmarks & data data is indeed on Google's server and IS being updated.
Is there a way to view this list? Or at least confirm the last time it has been updated?
As far as backup assistant... This just backs up contact info that you explicitly saved to the phone, not to any google account. So if you manually entered numbers into the phone, but they are not associated with any google account you have synced to the phone, VZW's backup assistant will back these up.
I recommend relying more on Google...but it is merely a personal preference.
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Tab only google account?

I was just wondering if most people use the same google account for phones and their tablet or have people created a separate "tablet" account? I noticed all the apps i have installed on my phone reinstalled on my tablet the first time, which was ok, but I started thinking, what if i start putting roms on each, it seems it'd be very easy to start getting some apps on the phone but not on the tablet, and vice versa.
i.e facebook is not available for the tab, so now if i wipe my phone and put on a new rom is the auto restore not going to restore facebook anymore?
I was also curious about how google talk or apps like that might handle multiple logins, anyone have problems with that yet?
I use the same account.. that way I don't have to buy apps twice!
Also added my wifes gmail/gtalk accounts on there without any issues. It just prompts you for what user you want to sign in with when you start the app.
I also just use one account so I don't have to pay twice (especially since I paid for the $30 Slingbox app).
Google Talk handles multiple concurrent logins fairly well, as has been the case since it was available in the browser email.
If you don't want apps automatically reinstalled when flashing a new ROM, just uncheck the box during the initial setup. I find it annoying and tend to only reinstall apps when I have a need to use them.

[Q] Transfering Accounts & Sync between roms/android flavors

Hello all,
My question is, how can I transfer full account & sync info (including accounts' settings, contacts, emails, calendar, ect) from one rom to the next, without loosing my account info?
Here's my situation: I have been testing a couple different roms (who hasn't ;-) switching from non-sense to sense, all gingerbread though. I have been using Titanium to backup all apps and system data, and as a secondary backup MyBackup (root) of all data (sms/mms, contacts, call log, ect.).
Say I start with AmeriCanAndroid (non-sense), backup as described above, then wipe and install one of the Runny (sense) roms, restore with Titanium.. I can't restore system data because if I do I get continuous FC on com.android.* and so on (which I believe I understand to be incompatible system apps), so instead I only restore installed apps and a few system (bluetooth pairings and wifi access points). And then restore data with MyBackup.
This works out well for everything except contacts and calendar, which is a huge deal. (Background on my contacts; I have a personal exchange server and I don't upload contacts or anything related to google, but atm my server is down and I haven't got around to troubleshooting the issue yet) MyBackup doesn't restore the accounts themselves, it just replaces or appends the info to existing ones, so when I change roms I have it set (for now since I can't connect to exchange to re-setup the account) to place those contacts as part of the phone account (I very much dislike this method, but its the only thing I found that worked out on short notice since I need my phone useable all the time).
I'm looking for a simple backup all accounts method that will restore across variations of android to the default accounts & sync. Is that possible? Thank you very much for your advise/suggestions.
Did you tried to save all your settings via google account? You can do that in settings->privacy->backup my data. Some friends of mine do that with their android phones and when I flash a new rom to their phones they get most of settings and apps back by syncing with their google accounts.
It's worth to try.
Thanks for the reply icke, but the problem in that is, I will never backup my data to google's (nor any other server, other then my own) if possible. That's why none of my contacts are sync'd with google.
I need a solution that will allow me to keep it all local.
demonloader said:
i will never backup my data to google's (nor any other server, other then my own)
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+1
NEVER!!!

[Q] Titanium Backup Pro restores apps to wrong gmail account

I flash roms not so often as crack flashers. But when I do, or even if I just have to do a factory reset (say, if I want to change the main google account, mainly to prioritize which gets to use the built-in google Talk), I come across Market link issues with TB Pro.
The account I want the apps linked with is NOT the primary google account. It used to be before but I made a new email and such. So I checked the proper settings in TB, such as always associate apps to selected active profiles, etc. But when I restore it is mixed between the two accounts. Some apps will be linked to one account or even both.
I've tried many things. I used market doctor to no avail. I killed market links, wiped data from Market in both Settings and in TB. I've tried rebooting several times. Now I am just going to uninstall/reinstall to see if it will associate to the selected market account.
Sometimes all the apps will link to the right account. But then later on it will be mixed again, or just show some apps as uninstalled or missing. But when I search for them in Market it shows it as installed.
I hope someone has a definite solution for this. I have searched XDA and checked the TB wiki. Thanks in advance.
Did selecting the account to use in TB preferences> account for android market not work? That is the reason it's there, I'm assuming.
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Yeah i checked it to the right account. But sometimes it reverts back to bring mixed.
Right now it's fine. I had to uninstall everything, check the TB settings, and reinstall. I also made sure the account was selected in the Market app.
But after making a backup in recovery, some apps weren't linked. But market doctor fixed it.
Still, i wonder what makes the apps become linked to different accounts afterwards.. Or lose its links.

[Q] messed with Framework to force 4.3 OTA, serious troubles with play store account!

So i was clearing frameworks service on my nexus 4 and nexus 10 to try to force the OTA update. I found out the hard way that this is stupid and can seriously harm stuff.
First of all, i got problems with play store. I got errors when downloading app updates from google play.
After searching for a solution i found that I had to remove my google account from my phone and then add it again. That worked.
However once I updated to 4.3(didnt get the OTA so i used the adb method) the problems came back - it would not sync my primary account.
So i deleted again the account, cleaned framework and google play data.
Now it looks like i seriosuly f* up things. I can log in to google play but all my installed apps are gone (under "my apps")
When i login to the web version, both my nexus 4 and nexus 10 have disappeared from my devices. It only lists my old ones, that i dont have anymore.
Under "all apps" i do still see my app history (incl purchases), so at least some data was saved.
Is there anyhting i can do to
1. link my devices
2. see my installed apps?
Thanks in advance.
-edit: SOLVED!
Here's what happened - by deleting my primary account, a secondary account became the primary one so all app data was linked to that one.
I deleted all other accounts except the primary one, and with that app data was again linked to the primary account.
Do a hard reset.
Sfkn2 said:
Do a hard reset.
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i really want to avoid clearing all my data.
-edit: SOLVED!
Here's what happened - by deleting my primary account, a secondary account became the primary one so all app data was linked to that one.
I deleted all other accounts except the primary one, and with that app data was again linked to the primary account.

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