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So I showed my evo to a friend....

And I realized why most people find it hard to use smartphones other than the iPhone. It is not based around the concept of 'iPhone is naturally easier because it just WORKS' but more along the lines of people have this notion that smartphones SHOULD behave/look like the iPhone.
For instance, when I showed my friend my Evo he looked at the screen and said "Where are the apps?" I said I only keep a few on the main screen that I use frequently such as SMS/Phone/Voicemail/Dropbox etc but the rest are in the app drawer. He said "Yeah... but that's gay they should all be on the screens" after switching from screen to screen only to find a few apps here and there I realized that people are accustomed to the clutter and confusion of iOS rather than the simplicity and organization of Android. It really seems counter intuitive to me. While the iPhone is a ****ing AMAZING phone (whoever says otherwise is a fanboy) it definitely loses in some areas to Android but people base their standards off the iOS which is a clear bias. I never knew how much of a grasp Apple has on the smartphone industry until this event. Coming from a Blackberry and having owned an iPod I found the transitions to be seamless but I also worked at IT for a long duration.
The conclusion I reached was that the notion of Android is harder to use because you need to be a geek to understand it is also false. Android is not more difficult to use, it is just different in itself. Turning on wifi on an iPhone is the same process. Downloading an APP is the same as well. Making phone calls and sending texts are identical. Hopefully we can see a growth in smartphone technologies that embrace the BEST possible user experience which I believe goes to Android for their sheer volume of phones as well as operating system capabilities.

Sounds like your describing that evo vs. iphone video on youtube and your friend is the character repeating "I don't care".
Are you happy with your device? Does it do what you want the way you want?
You are all that matters....
good day.

Kinda... but its not utter stupidity - more ignorance. What I am trying to say is that the iPhone has been the epitome of what a touchscreen smartphone SHOULD look and behave like.
I enjoy Android but I honestly got the Evo because of Sprints plan coupled in with unlimited bandwidth was a great money saving choice for a smart phone. Also, the fact that I can roam on Verizon meant I could get signal where an iPhone could not.
Honestly though, if I could get an iPhone on Sprints network with unlimited data + tethering as I do now for under $80 I would jump on that offer. Really love that phone and the game development is skyrocketing. I do enjoy the Evo, however. Cant complain about its amazing screen size and custom roms I can put in. Also the free tethering is nice

I guess your conclusion also explains why in every smartphone review, the iPhone is mentioned several times also.

Yup. Now if only we could get that phone out of the ATT deathgrip.

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Yup. Now if only we could get that phone out of the ATT deathgrip.
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So you do want the iphone...
I'm not surprised that the iphone is the standard - there are a lot more of them than any other smartphone. And they're very nice phones.
That said, I much prefer my evo. Even if the iphone became available outside AT&T, I'm sticking with android. While the iphone has more games (and fart apps), android allows more customization. I'm also not limited to a single controlled app market. Finally, my aging eyes love the large screen.

My girlfriend has a mytouch slide and after having the phone for a week I was showing her how to use it and she didn't even realize there was a menu button. You miss out on an awful lot without using that button lol.
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People forget that the average Joe is a moron.

bigmoogle said:
So you do want the iphone...
I'm not surprised that the iphone is the standard - there are a lot more of them than any other smartphone. And they're very nice phones.
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Pretty sure the BB curve still holds the crown.
That said, I am moving my mom from her BB curve to an EVO in December. I'll do the same with the EVO that I did with the curve. I will set it up so everything she wants is on the home screens. I'll give it a nice, clean look and make sure the fonts are right, etc.
She wants it for the big screen, not because it is fast, customizable, or anything else.

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People forget that the average Joe is a moron.
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Or completely uninterested in technology. I'm sure there are plenty of people with brains and advanced degrees that could not care much less about stuff that is possible with their phone.

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I prefer: Common sense is not that common.
I agree with the OP 100%. People are creatures of habit and don't realize that in the same way a PC differs from a MAC, an Android phone will differ from iOS based phone. I think that people will buy anything that has a lower case "i" in front of it just because Apple found a niche in the way they advertise. I don't have a problem with their products. My beef with them is based on their communist approach to business and the fact that they don't care about their customers.
Personally, I have never nor will I ever buy anything Apple. It has nothing to do with being an Android fan-boy so much as it is about being an Apple hater. lol Although I will say that my first experience with Android has left me wanting to kick myself for not switching over sooner.

rugedraw said:
I prefer: Common sense is not that common.
I agree with the OP 100%. People are creatures of habit and don't realize that in the same way a PC differs from a MAC, an Android phone will differ from iOS based phone. I think that people will buy anything that has a lower case "i" in front of it just because Apple found a niche in the way they advertise. I don't have a problem with their products. My beef with them is based on their communist approach to business and the fact that they don't care about their customers.
Personally, I have never nor will I ever buy anything Apple. It has nothing to do with being an Android fan-boy so much as it is about being an Apple hater. lol Although I will say that my first experience with Android has left me wanting to kick myself for not switching over sooner.
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I'm nebenezer and I approve this message
I made the terrible mistake of buying my g/f an iPod nano about a year ago. I really should have known better but she really wanted it. I got her hooked on Android with her Hero last Dec and she is now enamored with her EVO. My current challenge is I'm trying to convince her to let me see if I can hit her iPod with a .50 cal round at about 400 yards.
I'd settle for using my AR at 200 yards but the .50 would be so much more gratifying

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I'm nebenezer and I approve this message
I made the terrible mistake of buying my g/f an iPod nano about a year ago. I really should have known better but she really wanted it. I got her hooked on Android with her Hero last Dec and she is now enamored with her EVO. My current challenge is I'm trying to convince her to let me see if I can hit her iPod with a .50 cal round at about 400 yards.
I'd settle for using my AR at 200 yards but the .50 would be so much more gratifying
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Bwahaha! My girl wanted an iPod for her birthday a few years back, and when she opened the box, there was a Zune in it. She looked at me as if I had just said something about her momma. After a week, she was loving it. She was able to remove that resource-hungry iTunes software from her computer (she had it on there because of an iPod Shuffle she previously was using but broke), and it made her computer faster, too.
If you ever take the .50 cal to the iPod, make sure you use the Evo to capture the event.

rugedraw said:
Bwahaha! My girl wanted an iPod for her birthday a few years back, and when she opened the box, there was a Zune in it. She looked at me as if I had just said something about her momma. After a week, she was loving it. She was able to remove that resource-hungry iTunes software from her computer (she had it on there because of an iPod Shuffle she previously was using but broke), and it made her computer faster, too.
If you ever take the .50 cal to the iPod, make sure you use the Evo to capture the event.
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Yeah, I got it for her but with the caveat that it could only ever make a usb connection with HER COMPUTER.
I think I'll have to actually get her a raplacement before she'll give it up. I'm thinking either a Zune or a 16gb microsd card for her EVO.
Also, rest assured if I ever do get her iPod out to the range.. the event will be captured and shared

iPhone is a bit too easy and locked down for my tastes. I like being able to apply themes, change my Home app, etc. I think that alone makes Android look much better than iPhone. My iPhone friend who is an Apple fanboy agrees that the Android setup is much better and widgets are awesome.
Icons on icons is ugly to me. It's almost insulting.

nebenezer said:
Yeah, I got it for her but with the caveat that it could only ever make a usb connection with HER COMPUTER.
I think I'll have to actually get her a raplacement before she'll give it up. I'm thinking either a Zune or a 16gb microsd card for her EVO.
Also, rest assured if I ever do get her iPod out to the range.. the event will be captured and shared
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Zune HD ftw. I have had a 16 gig since launch day. Sexy screen, light and portable, and best of all the battery life is ****ing outstanding. Also, the best music browsing/playability out of any device to date.

Yea, the Zune is pretty. Although to be honest, I would invest in a 32GB SD card for my Evo and use that instead of using two separate devices. While the UI of the Zune is pretty, I wouldn't spend the money on it when I have a phone I already carry with me all the time that can do the same thing.

werxen said:
Zune HD ftw. I have had a 16 gig since launch day. Sexy screen, light and portable, and best of all the battery life is ****ing outstanding. Also, the best music browsing/playability out of any device to date.
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Look dude, I'm not trying to start more shiz in another one of your threads.. I'm appalled by your behavior in your WTF WIFI?!?! thread, but that's another story. I'm asking you politely to check your language. You could have just as, if not more effectively covered your point without dropping an f-bomb.. Again, not trying to start shiz.
I have no experience with zune but everyone I know that has one LOVES it, and several of them have models that are OOOLLLDDD, so that says something to me about build quality. On the other hand, a big sdcard full of music would conveniently negate the need for another device to purchase and keep charged, but would likely mean I'd have to hook her up with another battery or two or an extended battery. Oh what a dilemma, now I have to research and purchase more technology

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Look dude, I'm not trying to start more shiz in another one of your threads.. I'm appalled by your behavior in your WTF WIFI?!?! thread, but that's another story. I'm asking you politely to check your language. You could have just as, if not more effectively covered your point without dropping an f-bomb.. Again, not trying to start shiz.
I have no experience with zune but everyone I know that has one LOVES it, and several of them have models that are OOOLLLDDD, so that says something to me about build quality. On the other hand, a big sdcard full of music would conveniently negate the need for another device to purchase and keep charged, but would likely mean I'd have to hook her up with another battery or two or an extended battery. Oh what a dilemma, now I have to research and purchase more technology
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Okay fine lets agree to be police to so others don't have to deal with it.
I was thinking about getting an SD card for my Evo but the only crappy thing is I want to carry my music around in places that I don't want to take my phone like the gym. Not only are phones prohibited in some gyms, I couldn't bear to accidentally drop a weight on my phone or get too sweaty and short it out etc etc. Although I love my Zune and it cost me as much as my Evo did, it is not nearly the same device as far as capabilities.
Plus, another thing with the Evo is you don't really need an extra sd card. Just setup Dropbox accounts and you're good to go. I have all my music on dropbox and I just stream it perfectly.

Not to hijack, but I also have a dropbox account. How are you streaming music to your evo?
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So, I have been playijg around with my new Nexus S for a few hours and have everything loaded up like before. It's an awesome phone, just not surs ifbit is a $500 upgrade from the Nexus One that I currently own. My biggest issue is the limilted memory... with 12 gigs of music, my work files and others- I think I will run out soon, I am guessing they come out with a 32 gig before long. I will hang on to this and see how my N1 performs with GB. I really don't need a front facing camera or NFC chip. But I must admit, this thing is great and really flies! Anyone else having second thought?

It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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calin75 said:
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones.
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Yeah, I don't really see the Google Walled Garden. You'll have to explain.

I am almost positive there will be a Nexus-M by Motorola, they really want in on the Nexus name I have heard. Might be called the Nexus-3.0 and released after Honeycomb comes out, but that's just rumors I have heard. I thought Moto was gonna get the Nexus-2 before Samsung got involved, so I am sure they are working on a Nexus phone for release in 2011.
Right now, today, the Nexus-S is the best Android phone on the market, if you want pure Android, with no carrier bloatware, and no branding crap like Sense or Touchwiz, and you just need to root this phone to make it bad ass, no real need for a custom rom like C 6.1.
I would not want the first dual core phone to market anyways, let them work out the kinks and bugs first, and I'll take the second round of dual core phones. Will give them time to really optimize Android for dual core after the 2nd gen is out.

I think the OP was asking if you have actually bought the phone are you having second thoughts.

To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise. Gingerbread is coming to the Nexus One anyway.
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calin75 said:
To go from a Nexus One to a Nexus S and call it an upgrade is an oxymoron. To pay money and get a phone with less features is unwise.
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Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.

calin75 said:
It's disappointing that Google is going the Steve Jobs way trying to control what we can or can't do with our phones. I prefer my Nexus one 1000 times over this mediocre-half-ass attempt of a phone. I'll wait for Google to try again next year and bring back the tracking ball, memory slot, and a metallic casing instead of the plasticky one.
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It's hardly the same thing. Sure, Google may have taken out a couple features that you find important, but they are definitely not controlling anything. These decisions ONLY affect the Nexus S. The MANY other Android phones are not affected. So if you want a trackball and expandable memory, you can very well have that. Just buy a different phone. Apple on the other hand, prevents this freedom since the iPhone is the only available iOS phone.

shrivelfig said:
Where does Google say it's an upgrade? Link, please.
If you're just whining because the Nexus S doesn't have all the features that you want, then please stop. Go somewhere else and start your own thread, where you can complain all you want that the phone doesn't have a Jet Pack or a Rocket Launcher.
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This is a forum for people to share their opinions. If you really like the Nexus S, you shouldn't get mad if others don't. Go buy one, enjoy it and move on. But try to understand that different people use their phones differently.
For me, the lack of SD storage is a deal breaker. Like the OP, I have easily over 12GB of music that I load on my phones. I don't want to carry an MP3 player on top of my cellphone. Nexus S's lack of SD slot leaves me with very limited space for my other data (work emails, apps, pictures and clips that I shoot, and so on). Having said that, I could see how this wouldn't be an issue for someone who doesn't fill up their phone.
Secondly, no matter how you spin it, the hardware is not a noticeable step ahead from the Nexus One, or the myTouch 4G. The S has a 1GHz processor and so do a whole slew of phones by Samsung and other manufacturers.
Thirdly, the Nexus S doesn't utilize TMO's HSPA+ network. Again, this may not be a big deal for somebody who doesn't do heavy data on their phone. But I do, and I happen to live in an area where TMO's "4G" network works extremely well. I definitely consider going from HSPA+ back to "3G" a downgrade. You may not share that view...
Basically, the only selling point for the S is Gingerbread. Based on certain information I have, the MT4G is highly likely to get a 2.3 update on the other side of the year. A minor OS update isn't enough to convince me to buy this phone.
As for your "upgrade" comment, technology is expected to get better over time. It's just the way it works. Google doesn't need to hold a press conference event to tell us whether this phone is an upgrade over a phone released nearly a year ago. That is expected to be the case.

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I think the Nexus phones are Google's iPhone. It is untouched by Carrier bloatware, and untouched by phone brand UI's. This is the "pure" Android experience, sort of how iPhone is the "pure" Apple phone experience, but they only have one phone anyways, so sort of hard to compare, but you get my drift.
Is the Nexus-S gonna be the top dog hardware, no. But it will always be up to date with the current OS, and not really needing any custom roms, just a root. Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware. I like the virgin Nexus, even if she is a little slower
Every Christmas time there will be a new Nexus, running the latest OS, sort of like every summer there is a new iPhone. I hope this keeps going.

Zorachus said:
Sure in two months from now, there will be dual cores etc...but they will also have Moto blur, or TouchWiz, or Sense UI, and then have Verizon Bing search, or ATT crap ware.
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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1

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even if there is, until android is written to support it, and the apps are as well, having an extra core will be useless.
I'm going to sit on my n1 until a dual core dev phone is released. By that point, my n1 will be at the same hardware comparison with the new phone that my g1 was with the n1
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Agreed, I would not want to be beta tester on the first gen of dual core phones, could be buggy, or could not offer any performance gains until the Android OS is totally ready for it . Now a dual core Nexus development phone would be nice.

Probably going to return mine
This phone is nice, but I really don't c much performance upgrade over my Nexus One. When I tried to watch some flash videos, it was just as choppy as my Nexus One...I was very disappointed. I think right before the remorse period is over I will return the phone and go back to my N1.

I visited Best Buy during lunch and got to play with a demo unit. The first impression is that the phone feels cheap. Yes, we've read about this many times in reviews, but I don't think one realizes it until one has it in their hands. It feels like a toy. And for whatever reason, it feels cheaper than the Vibrant; maybe because of expectations (Nexus branding and all)? I don't know. In some ways, the Vibrant's cheapness still feels like quality.
Granted, I was only using it for no more than 5 minutes, I was quite underwhelmed. Gingerbread sure is smooth, though.

Driving home with mine right now. 30 day return policy with no restocking fee. Ill see how gb does on my nexus one also and if I find any buyers. If gb flies on n1 and no buyers ill return. Can't wait to get home and charge it then wait till its done before I use. Fffuuuuuuu
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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G

... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.

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I too am underwhelmed with the device so far. Oh yes it is fast and smooth but I am getting Fc's and some have to do with the GPS which does concern me. My GPS has been spotty so far and I still recall the torture with the Vibrant's GPS. Also Market has not updated to the new market. I thought GB would include that for sure(perhaps it is not actually released yet although I have it on my Vibrant. I do like the feel of the phone though. It is heavier to me than the Vibrant or the MT4G
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If you're getting FC's out of the box, do a full reset of the phone. If it keeps doing it even afterwards, then exchange it.

This is my first Samsung device and I disagree with the folks saying that it feels cheap or like a toy. My only complaint about it's build quality after having played with it for the last several hours is that I wish they had used some rubberized texture coating or something because the phone is pretty slick.
I'm sure I'll get used to it though and adjust my grip accordingly.
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... Like 2 dicks and no *****, Samsung and Android don't mix.
Sorry but that's just the god's honest truth.
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LOL I'm writing that one down.

Switching to iPhone

Ok I'm looking for some honest information without all the flaming n name calling so please be kind in ur responses.
I'm thinking about getting the iPhone bc I'm getting fed up with androids issues, I love Android to death, I've owned the mytouch 3g, Droid2 and now the EVO but I need a phone more stable without all the tweaking n modding to get things to work the way I need them to. Android has major battery problems n the only way to fix it is to buy more and/or bigger batteries, a lot of newer phones have gps n signal issues like the e4t and I just think Android has some kinks it needs to work out before they get to be reliable without having to root n flash roms, overclock etc. What I'm asking is for honest opinions on if I should step over to Apple for a year or so til Android gets there issues more worked out or just stick with this n wait?
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Sh*t, I just noticed I put this in the dev section. Can someone please move it to the right section, I would but I don't know how
nExVsO

Peace out.!!!!! Android rules!!!! Have fun with your apple......

If you really want to switch to the iphone, then go for it. Both Android and iOS have their problems. When Sprint got the iphone 4S, I thought about switching to it. But then I played with one in the store and was shocked at how tiny the screen was, and how awful it felt to hold in my hand. I live in Minnesota, so having the front and back made out of glass (along with the sides being metal) is a big downside because the device gets really cold in the winter. Plus I don't like the idea of having to sync the device to a computer. A phone should be able to be a stand-alone device.
On the flipside, my father hated his HTC Hero and switched to the iphone 4S a few months back. He's not really a techy guy, and he loves his iphone. The only downside is that the iphone 4s also has battery life problems, so I am not sure if you can escape that problem. In the end, it kind of comes down to a personal preference between the 2 OS choices. Both are matured enough that there doesn't appear to be a clear and obvious winner at this point in time.
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I think the first two paragraphs of this criticism of Siri sum up how I view Apple products in general. I prefer control and Android. And more $$ in my pocket.

I use my Epic for work and play. No way I could use an iPhone for the work part of the equation!
I don't like the way Apple makes you use iTunes for everything. Just let me drop and drag files and sync my contacts and data wirelessly.
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Well, be my guest!!! I told a friend of mines "lets do a contest to download an entire album in the queickest time" He said "well is gonna cost me $12.00 on Itunes" on my EVO using Download and music search app, was free and with 4G at 9mbps it took me 7 minutes to have al 13 songs.
I phones are for nerds.
Id rather run naked, soaked in lemon juice and run through a football field size garden of roses than to use one of those funny iphone devices.

i switched to the iphone as well after deving some alphas for my evo that im going to make public soon i love android and i miss it a bit after 11 days with the iphone and 8 with the galxy s2 i see that ios is much more stable then android as its closed source and kept maintained and updated regularly by apple and the response and structure of the system is much more organized then that of android but i miss my open source allot i miss the apps and the roms and flashing and deving! i hate waiting so damn long for a god dang jailbreak !!! thats so hard to crack it takes teams to find and xploite its really agonizing to own a iphone 4s but if ur up to it u can stand the wait and the lack of change of roms and ios is lovely

Go get an iPhone, use it for a few weeks and see if you like it
i definitely would tell you DONT... but it aint for me, so what i care...
it must fit what you NEED it to do

So you've done some developing on Android, but are attracted to the ‘closed source' nature of apple? Did you not take your meds today? schizophrenics on xda, I guess I can't imagine your poor head.
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Careful with the iphone...
Apple may file a lawsuit against you for infringing on their patents.
They sue everyone else anyways.
I hate my iphone for sooooo many reasons.

A dev trying to switching to iphone and asking opinions? Go ahead, at least I can carry an extra battery with me for heavy usage. The openess of Android has smitten me. Can't imagine a closed system where Steve is my big brother, wanting me to be a slave of their system.
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The battery life on my girlfriends iphone isnt any better then mine..Probably worse and I can switch batteries out..

I got my gf a iPhone too because of her reason. Now she wants the galaxy s2 since I told her about upgrade my contract. Then again girls can't make up there mind. Lol
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chaco81 said:
Go get an iPhone, use it for a few weeks and see if you like it
i definitely would tell you DONT... but it aint for me, so what i care...
it must fit what you NEED it to do
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That's what I was thinking of doing but won't I have to pay some return fee it I try to get a refund on it?
I'm really feeling torn here lol. Like trying to decide to get a house thats not too fancy inside but eveything u can think of but charges u to use anything inside it, or getting a house that has fancy futuristic stuff Inside it but it doesn't work all the time n something might need replacing due to faulty wiring... Idk I just know my EVO isn't going to last much longer bc I need a phone that can last a good 9 hours n actually let me use it without watching the battery go down like the gas Guage on an old truck.
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I tinker too much to like the iPhone. Custom kernels, ROMs, etc. Then again I would probably sleep more if I had an iPhone ...

I can easily get 9 hours. Im not a heavy user most of the time, for example I am on 22% and I took it off the charger, probably 50 hours ago, but I havent been doing too much, 5-20 min convo's here and there, playing around with a few apps, streams a bit of music while driving into the city, a hundred txts or so. I have easily been talking on the phone for 6 hours straight and only lost 15-20%. Pretty recently, but I am also running ASOP.

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That's what I was thinking of doing but won't I have to pay some return fee it I try to get a refund on it?
I'm really feeling torn here lol. Like trying to decide to get a house thats not too fancy inside but eveything u can think of but charges u to use anything inside it, or getting a house that has fancy futuristic stuff Inside it but it doesn't work all the time n something might need replacing due to faulty wiring... Idk I just know my EVO isn't going to last much longer bc I need a phone that can last a good 9 hours n actually let me use it without watching the battery go down like the gas Guage on an old truck.
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No u have 14 or 30 days to try it and swap or return it idk if sprint made the change from 30 to 14 days yet so check when u buy
Edit: and all u need for your evo is a new battery if yours is draining that fast its because it is old and has lost its spunk, u can buy a 3500 or on eBay you can get 3 1800mah slims for about 20$ with an external charger much cheaper than buying an iPhone that wont do anything you really want and wont let u use anything for work if your work uses windows cuz iPhone wont let u do anything related to Microsoft except check your email

I loved my iphone. But regretfully switched back to the evo due to financial reasons (ie: selling the iphone) if you're interested in getting one used I have listing on ebay for a 16gb. Look for the one in a lifeproof case
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Have you tried buying a new OEM battery? Much cheaper than the iphone and that should help your battery problem. These batteries don't last forever
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My First Smart Phone

I own a Tablet, Netbook, Windows & Ubuntu Laptops, and Servers; but I've never owned a SmartPhone. Now that I may finally be upgrading my Verizon Plan, I need guidance.
Asking which is the best SmartPhone out there is very a very subjective and possibly contentious discussion, and if you have a hands-down favorite I want to hear about it, but more importantly I want to know which of the current VZW offerings to avoid. I figure that will be a better way to narrow the field and make my choice.
Thanks in advance,
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hey. Not sure.

AFarenci said:
I own a Tablet, Netbook, Windows & Ubuntu Laptops, and Servers; but I've never owned a SmartPhone. Now that I may finally be upgrading my Verizon Plan, I need guidance.
Asking which is the best SmartPhone out there is very a very subjective and possibly contentious discussion, and if you have a hands-down favorite I want to hear about it, but more importantly I want to know which of the current VZW offerings to avoid. I figure that will be a better way to narrow the field and make my choice.
Thanks in advance,
ALF
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First off it depends on what you want to do with the phone. there is never one clear cut winner. if you are looking to root, mod, flash and such. you may be interested in a completely different phone then someone looking to maximize random features and such.
my vote. you can never go wrong with a nexus. easy to unlock. root. flash. have long-term support. always a great choice. i have one. love it.
Verizon carries a lot of motorola phones. they tend to have good build quality, and lots of factory features. but be warned some are a headache to work with, and moto can be a real pain about unlocking bootloaders and such. im not down-talking moto in anyway, i have an atrix too and love it. just letting you know.
again there is not "best phone" there is a new great phone out every day. look around. read some reviews. and remember if you really cant decide. nexus is the best of ALL worlds. just remember to do some reading up on what the limitations are before you buy.
hope this can help a little.

AFarenci said:
I own a Tablet, Netbook, Windows & Ubuntu Laptops, and Servers; but I've never owned a SmartPhone. Now that I may finally be upgrading my Verizon Plan, I need guidance.
Asking which is the best SmartPhone out there is very a very subjective and possibly contentious discussion, and if you have a hands-down favorite I want to hear about it, but more importantly I want to know which of the current VZW offerings to avoid. I figure that will be a better way to narrow the field and make my choice.
Thanks in advance,
ALF
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That's a tough one because, as you mentioned, it's a very subjective issue with most people. You have a diverse set of other devices so my first question would have to deal with how badly do you need your smartphone to interact with them. What OS is on your tablet and netbook. If they're both Android I would recommend you stay with Verizon's Droid line. If they're Windows I would heavily recommend that you look at Windows Phone, namely the Trophy on Verizon. Don't get caught up in the whole "specs" conversation, go to a Verizon store and actually work the phone. Is it intuitive? Does it lag more than you would care for? How are the buttons, keyboards, etc. If this is your first smartphone I would definitely suggest you consider the "feel" of the phone and the menus, layout & screen. On another note, if you don't feel comfortable with any of their offerings, buy a good used one on ebay or Craigslist and put it on your contract. It'll be much less sour than to have to spend the next two years with a phone you hate to even look at. Hope this helps.

Once you have used the HTC EVO 3D camera you will never look at another phone again! when i take photos of my family and kids in 3d the photos just amaze me every time. when i switch to 2d and take photos the pictures are still very clear but just boring. i actually only take 3d photos now as you can edit the photo later and create a 2d copy from it. it also scored an impressive 2800 points in quadrant on a ics leak stock kernel!! im running myn without sense and it starts up only using 300mb of ram. there's 1gb ram!!!!

Well, these days I'd say the One X or Sammy Galaxy the 3rd ;o)
But the iPhone is not a dumbphone either, no? (I feel I'll get hell for this...)
I totally agree it's a complex question.
As mentioned before.try to summarize what you're going to do with it and which functions and feature are a must for you.
Keep us up on what you got in the end.
Cheers and good hunting

Thanks for all the input so far. To answer some of the questions:
I don't think I need the phone to interact with my tablet or netbook.
My tablet is a rooted ViewSonic G-Tablet with Flashback ROM
My netbook is WinXP with Ubuntu bootable from usb-stick.

If you could please wait until the end of this summer. There are a lot of great devices that are going to be released.
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If you could please wait until the end of this summer. There are a lot of great devices that are going to be released.
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This. There are great offerings coming from Sony, LG, and others before the end of the summer. You're definitely best off waiting to see what comes, and if nothing new catches your eye you'll still get an even better price on older devices once the new crop hits.

There are many good smartphones,
many others will suggest iphone 4s or 5, or SIII, but a good model in stores now is Sony Xperia S.

Oh hell yes, the Xperia S is pretty good.
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That's a tough one because, as you mentioned, it's a very subjective issue with most people. You have a diverse set of other devices so my first question would have to deal with how badly do you need your smartphone to interact with them. What OS is on your tablet and netbook. If they're both Android I would recommend you stay with Verizon's Droid line. If they're Windows I would heavily recommend that you look at Windows Phone, namely the Trophy on Verizon. Don't get caught up in the whole "specs" conversation, go to a Verizon store and actually work the phone. Is it intuitive? Does it lag more than you would care for? How are the buttons, keyboards, etc. If this is your first smartphone I would definitely suggest you consider the "feel" of the phone and the menus, layout & screen. On another note, if you don't feel comfortable with any of their offerings, buy a good used one on ebay or Craigslist and put it on your contract. It'll be much less sour than to have to spend the next two years with a phone you hate to even look at. Hope this helps.

Well it looks like I'll be putting off my quest for the perfect phone for another time.
When I said I've never had a SmartPhone, that wasn't exactly true. Collecting dust in my draw for years, I've had a Mogul PPC-6800. Problem was I could never get Verizon to connect it without a data plan. They just relented and I now have it activated (with no data). Of course now that I'm using it, I'm too blind to read the damn screen.
back when I first got the Mogul, however many years ago that was, all I wanted was a PIM to replace my Palm Pilot and to be able to make Skype calls from wifi hot-spots.

Just wait for the galaxy g3 or just buy the galaxy nexus. My friend who never had a smartphone but he picked it up (gnexus) easy and now he using use all the features. If ur really really dumb, there is the iphone
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HTC rezound
if you are on verizon you should go with the htc rezound.

eyupb said:
That's a tough one because, as you mentioned, it's a very subjective issue with most people. You have a diverse set of other devices so my first question would have to deal with how badly do you need your smartphone to interact with them. What OS is on your tablet and netbook. If they're both Android I would recommend you stay with Verizon's Droid line. If they're Windows I would heavily recommend that you look at Windows Phone, namely the Trophy on Verizon. Don't get caught up in the whole "specs" conversation, go to a Verizon store and actually work the phone. Is it intuitive? Does it lag more than you would care for? How are the buttons, keyboards, etc. If this is your first smartphone I would definitely suggest you consider the "feel" of the phone and the menus, layout & screen. On another note, if you don't feel comfortable with any of their offerings, buy a good used one on ebay or Craigslist and put it on your contract. It'll be much less sour than to have to spend the next two years with a phone you hate to even look at. Hope this helps.
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I would appreciate it if you didn't copy & paste my posts and try to pass it off as "my idea". Not cool.

a google phone like the galaxy nexus will give you the best android experience since it gets its updates directly from the carriers.
unfortunately verizon hasnt updated their cdma version of the galaxy nexus since it was launched in 2011.

i like iphone 4s - 5 very like it ...

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i like iphone 4s - 5 very like it ...
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IPhone 4s and the iPhone 5 are very different
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[Q] Trying to get my dad to choose a RAZR M over iCrap..help me

I currently have a Galaxy S3, but my dad wants a budget phone and he is looking to get the 4S...I have been trying to convince him otherwise and to get this phone, but he WILL NOT budge. He doesnt want an Android because I had multiple problems with my Nexus when I had it, and I am trying to explain to him its because Samsung did a horrible job with the Nexus.
Anyone have any good reviews or things that I can use to persuade my dad against the iPhone.

Phositadc gave an awesome review under this same general forum. Thread titled impressions after 1 day of use.
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To be completely honest and put my Droid bias on hold for a second, I would probably say that the 4S would be a good phone if he is new to smartphones and not very technology oriented. The one thing the iPhones have is simplicity. While I do firmly believe that android is the superior OS for power and utility, I can't deny the "user friendliness" of the iOs. Also, if he has an iPod of some sort and uses iTunes heavily, that would be a sure seller for the 4S for continued Apple nursing.
However, if he has is in any way tech savvy, push him towards the power, personalization, and screen size factors and make him hold and play with the M for a while. The M beats the iPhone 5 even hands-down in these terms, but you need to put down the Apple flavored kool-aid to see it.
At the end of the day, though, it's his cash, he will spend it how he wants so you may just have to accept that. If he starts sitting in line for days for things, however, he may need to be put down since he is obviously a lost cause at that point, lol. Can't save 'em all...

exactly what he just said. your pops has to use the phone not you so he should choose what he feels is good for him. working in IT folks always ask us at work what the "best phone" is and i tel lthem to i prefer android but IOS is a really good choce, esp for less tech savvy users who just want a phone that "works"
ive stopped rooting most friends and families phones because majority of the time it breaks updates, etc. unless they understand (or are willing to learn) how to use CM, etc and do backups and update ROMs on their own.

schwartzman93 said:
Anyone have any good reviews or things that I can use to persuade my dad against the iPhone.
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I don't understand why you don't want your dad to get a phone that he wants. It's true that iPhones are limited/locked down compared with Android phones, but they also have their advantages. He can likely get help from anyone who has an iPhone, because of that consistency. Even though I've owned an original Moto Droid and then switched to an HTC DInc 2, I feel somewhat lost when looking at other Android phones, mostly because of the manufacturer overlays (Sense, TouchWiz, etc.) and other changes that they make.
I tried getting my wife to switch from her Blackberry to Android, but after she tried my Moto Droid she said she hated it. After she tried my DInc 2 she said she hated it and would stay with her Blackberry rather than switch to a smartphone. One day one of her friends showed her an iPhone 4 and guess what? Yep... she wanted one. The UI is simpler and less customizable, but it's also easier to understand and start using quickly. Maybe something similar is going through your dad's head. While there are really good Android phones out there, it's mostly a crap shoot unless you know exactly what you're doing, and getting help, even from another Android phone owner, can also be a crap shoot. The simplicity and consistency of the iPhone is a liability OR a plus, depending on who's looking at it.
I see them as too limiting, and that's why I've purchased and am waiting for my Moto Razr M developer edition.

If you're looking for ease of use, get him a WP phone. Those are way easier to use and much smoother than iOS or Android.
I find Android a lot easier to use than iOS, though. I can never find where anything is on iOS, and it's not intuitive to me at all.

My brother calls iPhone's "Kid Phones". Tell your dad that.

I got my dad to get the Razr M and he loves it
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