[Hardware Hacks] Oh The Possibilities.. - Adam General

While chatting with dougie187 in the ##adamroot IRC, I was wondering if the antenna was still included in units that are ordered without 3G.
Then got to thinking the possibilities and options available in using the mini PCI-e port. There are a few CDMA cards, I am assuming it would be a matter of drivers and then it was mentioned, the issue with it asking for a SIM card.
Other options I saw was a DIY Sata SSD PCI-e adapter, CF Card to Mini PCI-E Adapter and ZIF CE 1.8 Inch HDD to Mini PCI-E Adapter.
Any ideas?
-CC
i.e. :http://www.amazon.com/RunCore-70mm-50mm-Converter-Adapter/dp/B003BK4OZ8
http://www.amazon.com/CablesToBuy-I...?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1296584829&sr=1-23
http://www.amazon.com/CF-Card-Mini-PCI-Adapter/dp/B003MMS4SS/ref=pd_cp_e_3
dougie187 linked http://www.hwtools.net/CardReader/MR04R.html

Antenna shouldn't be a problem, they normally come with the card and according to the pictures relatively easy to fit in. The question will be, is the Sim Card connector installed.

I'd like to see if we can upgrade to a bigger flash drive. 8 gb is kinda weak.

Greg G said:
I'd like to see if we can upgrade to a bigger flash drive. 8 gb is kinda weak.
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You can't "upgrade" the internal 8GB, but you can pop in an sd card and/or usb drive for an additional 128GB +/-...
-CC

clockcycle said:
You can't "upgrade" the internal 8GB, but you can pop in an sd card and/or usb drive for an additional 128GB +/-...
-CC
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You *might* be able to upgrade the internal 8GB, but it would take some serious modding. It would not be an easy upgrade by any means, and would require some soldering, if it's possible at all. I would not recommend it to anyone for that matter, but someone who REALLY wanted to do it, might be able to.

jupppo said:
Antenna shouldn't be a problem, they normally come with the card and according to the pictures relatively easy to fit in. The question will be, is the Sim Card connector installed.
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I have a LCD version without 3G. According to the manual the 3G slot sits directly next to the micro sd slot (bottom front corner) so I assume its some sort of shared module or they conveniently sit right next to each other. My version only has a sd slot so I am doubting any 3G hardware is installed. My guess of course.

techboydino said:
I have a LCD version without 3G. According to the manual the 3G slot sits directly next to the micro sd slot (bottom front corner) so I assume its some sort of shared module or they conveniently sit right next to each other. My version only has a sd slot so I am doubting any 3G hardware is installed. My guess of course.
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Thanks for clarifying it, seems paying the extra $ for the hardware may be worth it.
-CC

clockcycle said:
You can't "upgrade" the internal 8GB, but you can pop in an sd card and/or usb drive for an additional 128GB +/-...
-CC
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Where would the sd card connect? Assume you don't mean micro sd or we would be talking 32g. Too bad NI didn't go with an SDHC slot instead of the micro sd. Seems like there would be plenty of room for it.
EDIT: Reread your first post. Guess you are thinking we can tie into the mini PCI-e port. That's there or 3G?

Installing 3G doesn't seem to be an option, when there is no sim card connector. As for the internal memory upgrade I see two possibilities:
1) when the miniPCe is fully connected an we find an android tablet with a SSD that provides the device drivers, so that we can port them to the Adam
2) physically mount an usb flash drive internally, reworking one of the external usb ports to do this. There seems to be enough space internally that could fit a dismantelled jump drive..

Any of those SSD adaptors are likely only meant to support the non-standard MiniPCIe implementation that you find in Eee PCs.

tgoode said:
Any of those SSD adaptors are likely only meant to support the non-standard MiniPCIe implementation that you find in Eee PCs.
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Regardless what miniPCIe implementation you use, you need two things to make it work:
1) Firmware/Bios support
2) Android drivers
My hope lies on the new tablets coming out with SSD's, so that Firmware can be ported and drivers can be used.

jupppo said:
Regardless what miniPCIe implementation you use, you need two things to make it work:
1) Firmware/Bios support
2) Android drivers
My hope lies on the new tablets coming out with SSD's, so that Firmware can be ported and drivers can be used.
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Perhaps I need to be clearer.
A majority of MiniPCIe SSDs are designed specifically to only work with the eee PC or Dell Mini 9 netbooks. In these non-standard implementations, the PCIe lanes in the MiniPCIe slot are replaced with USB2.0 or SATA depending on if it is the Asus or Dell implementation. They are electrically incompatible with slots that are designed to the true MiniPCIe specification, which is what you most often see being used for 3G modems.
So - here is the question - Does the Adam have a true MiniPCIe slot (likely) or a Dell or Asus implementation (unlikely)?

Oh the possibilities huh...lets see then what are some of the possibilities.
Of course mPCIe card add-ons provided they are non-variant implementation (as stated above, i never knew) not sure how to tell the difference. more info
Open aux port on the 3G card so a external antenna plug.
Swap out microSD for Standard size SD.
Magsafe power cord
Vibration
Laptop Lockdown port
One True white Bright LED
or
A crap ton of ugly rainbow LEDs (and the obligatory clear case *yuck)
Built in induction charger
Audio-in jack
A barometer
As mentioned internal Flash drive.
Add near field communications chip
Back track pad.
Add Infra Red
Solder on more internal memory.
Wacom Pen
I would not know how to do much of anything on this list, just looking for a jumping off point for people. Anyone else got any ideas?

tgoode said:
Perhaps I need to be clearer.
A majority of MiniPCIe SSDs are designed specifically to only work with the eee PC or Dell Mini 9 netbooks. In these non-standard implementations, the PCIe lanes in the MiniPCIe slot are replaced with USB2.0 or SATA depending on if it is the Asus or Dell implementation. They are electrically incompatible with slots that are designed to the true MiniPCIe specification, which is what you most often see being used for 3G modems.
So - here is the question - Does the Adam have a true MiniPCIe slot (likely) or a Dell or Asus implementation (unlikely)?
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Are you sure? I've done quite a bit of searching around and it seems post MiniPCIe implementations have either a SATA or PATA controller embedded. For example: Search newegg for SSDMAEMC040G2C1 (Sorry about the link, but apparently I don't have enough posts to be link trustworthy :\)
Am I correct in assuming this should work once drivers are provided?

BuckeyBall said:
Are you sure? I've done quite a bit of searching around and it seems post MiniPCIe implementations have either a SATA or PATA controller embedded. For example: www (dot) newegg (dot) com/Product/Product (dot) aspx?Item=N82E16820167039&cm_re=MiniPCIe-_-20-167-039-_-Product[/url]
Am I correct in assuming this should work once drivers are provided?
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No, there needs to be BIOS support for SATA/PATA as well. All SSD's (and USB storage) needs to have some kind of controller, that's normal.
And as said earlier, some SSD's won't work due to incompatibility, but they normally say that in the specs of the SSD.

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Hooking up a USB Hardisk to the HTC Universal

Hi People!
Is it Yes or Not possible to hook up a USB hardisk to the HTC Universal (providing the hard disk is powered externaly) to exchange file between the Universla and the Hardisk?
No
I'm sure some day there'll be a way, but dont hold your breath...
So does it have USB host? I thought the previous conclusion was that it didn't come enabled after all?
Why do you want to hook up a drive anyhow? What's wrong with a UNC connection over WiFi?
Why not use a 4GB SD card?
Hi
i use my Toshiba e800 as storage transfer solution of my pictures.
I connect an 80GB usb hardrive to the toshiba and insert my 2gb lexar memories on the CF slot for backup photos on hollidays ....
The issue is ? thoes the universal have usb host function ????
fcaeiro said:
Hi
The issue is ? thoes the universal have usb host function ????
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No they don't.
We all hope it's just a matter of OS/Drivers and maybe a day in the future an update will give Universal usb host capability.
Roberto
Forget it. Only the CPU supports the USB Host feature. HTC chose not to include the neccessary remaining hardware on the device's mainboard, hence something a driver can never cure.
What about an SDIO USB host? Possible? Do they exist already?
Buy a laptop if you need that much space. This isn't a PC, it is a phone with PDA functionality. Show me any other PDA you can do this to? You can't.
saldous said:
Buy a laptop if you need that much space. This isn't a PC, it is a phone with PDA functionality. Show me any other PDA you can do this to? You can't.
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Toshiba 740
Toshiba E800
Toshiba E830
Asus (several models)
Siemens Pocket loox
And several other i don't know by head....
for me it will be the nicest thing in order to use the digicam as a usb drive in order to copy/send pictures
xiasma said:
What about an SDIO USB host? Possible? Do they exist already?
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That's what I was alluding to earlier, shouldn't be too long before they're available, I read about them on some website a couple of months ago but I can't find the flippin' link now.
Can't honestly say I'd use that much memory though, 2Gb is enough for me for the forseeable future.
when comparing mb / £ a HDD is the only real solution so far,
especially if you want vga res videos running. SD cards are good but only having 1-4 movies on a 2gb card becomes a pain.
i use a 2.5" hdd in a caddy hardly bigger than the drive, its only a 10gb drive atm as it is all that was avaliable "freely" :wink: , but it is WAY WAY WAY handier than a handful of SD's to ship data around
hdd usb conectivity would only be an interim step in the right direction, when 40gb+ SD type cards are mainstream and can be housed in the universal without ever needing to swap to your "videos" sd or your "music" sd or your "data" sd, then we are approaching the ideal situation.
but we wont get there until the basics are met first.

usb thumb drive instead of PC?

I tried searching to see if this has already been discussed, but like all vBulletin forums, the search function rejected USB and Pen (as in pen drive) and a few other essential but three-letter words. So I found zero.
I have a 4 GB USB U3 thumb drive that I always carry with me--until I lose it, that is. I would like to load it up activesync (or not--whatever works) and a whole bunch of files I want to install on my HTC Touch Pro (AT&T Fuze). I have a short cable with a male mini USB connector at one end and a female regular-sized USB connector on the other (so I can slip the male USB thumb drive connector into the cable and thence connect it to my TouchPro).
I'm not sure whether this will work, but it seems like it should. This way, I can carry with me all of my files-to-be-installed and work on customizing my fuze anytime, anywhere. I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little. (i have a 32 GB F card and a 32 GB SD card in my iP 211.)
For starters, I can't even figure out how to install Windows Mobile Device Center on the thumb drive--the process keeps wanting to mess with the AS/Winmobile Device Center already istalled (and used for another WM device).
Maybe there's a way to do with without AS or the Device Center. That's fine with me. All I care about is having access to the many, many apps I have waiting on the flash drive.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Sandra
Im no expert, but I dont think many devices have the capability for being hosts, meaning they cant have external memory devices attach except through the supplied card slot.
There are a couple out there which can handle it, but they normally come with a usb port built in. Otherwise I doubt its possible. I dont think its one of those things which can be programmed. Of course, I could be entirely wrong about it.
Edit: Ok, im completely wrong about it. I just found a web page through google saying that many devices with wm on dating back to Pocket PC 2002 do in fact have the ability to do it.
My bad. lol
http://www.mypdacafe.com/articles.php?id=219
See this threads for discussion on Touch Pro's USB host possibilities:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905&highlight=usb+host
sfrrr said:
I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little.
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What size do you have? They are currently available up to 16 gig, and 32 is coming. I keep all my cabs on my Sandisk 16. As for USB host, see the post above with the link to the thread. The chipset does not appear to support it. BTW, if you do a search on "USB host", you will find the thread.
I'm about to follow those links you guys recommended, but I wanted to say a quick thanks to you all. I didn't know anything about USB hosting, etc, and it's a whole lot easier to think anything is possible if you don't know anything than if you are well-educated. (OTOH, I suppose that that knowing might also inhibit experimenting which means you don't pursue new ideas. Hence the box we have to think outside of.)
Thanks again,
Sandra
I'd recommend a Trio adapter: Trio is not a brand name, just a mechanical name they have given this adapter. I had one made by A-Data and its awesome.
The adapter itself is an SD card that accepts a MicroSD on the side. However, the neat part is the fact that you can remove a piece and voila! you have a USB stick.
http://memoryworld.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=14&products_id=386 is the first hit from google. I bought mine from Newegg way back in the day. Sadly it was ran over when my phone was. The MicroSD card was good, but the adapter died. I am saving up to get the new SDHC version and a 16GB MicroSD card.
BE ADVISED: there are similar products out there called DUAL adapters: the memory is non removable in those. What that means is that there is no MicroSD card that comes out.
Enjoy!

Sometimes, microSD is better than SD

I've seen many people complain that they wish the Iconia had a full-size SD slot and not a microSD one. Today, I realized that microSD can be a big advantage.
My wife is on a school trip this weekend, currently on a bus with 60 high-schoolers. She just called because she realized that she'd left behind some important instructions that she's supposed to read to the kids on the bus. I can e-mail them to her, but the problem is that the tablet (my Acer Iconia) doesn't have a WiFi connection on the bus and lacks 3G so she can't receive the e-mail there. The instructions would be too small to easily read from her phone. Fortunately, her phone is an Android one with a microSD card. So, I've e-mailed her the instructions - she can save them on the microSD card, swap the card into the tablet, copy the file to the tablet's memory, and then return the cards. This will put the document on the tablet, where she can easily read it.
This made me realize that a similar solution would be useful with photos. I can take the photos on my camera, copy them to the tablet and convert the RAW images to 800x600 JPGs. Next, I can put the JPGs on a microSD card in the tablet's card slot and then put that card into an Android phone to e-mail them as desired. True, having 3G on the tablet, or setting up tethering with the phone, would be better options, but neither are available to me at the present. So, this will be a great solution - when I replace my iPhone with an Android (I hope to have a Samsung Galaxy SII LTE/Skyrocket soon).
Thanks for that post. It just shows how far we have come with technology over the years and how tablets are becoming part of every day life.
Just be careful putting the SD card in and out of devices. I think the locking tab on most micro SD cards is much too small and will wear off. This will make the card not hold in.Safari as the Iconia its tough to get micro card locked in .for me anyway.I don't think micro slots should be mechanically spring loaded to small to work correctly.
You can do Bluetooth file sharing between tablet and iteration non android devices.just pare them. I think you have to send the file from the phone.
From my touch pro2 i send files to the A500 via bluetooth. Im sure you can do the same with a android phone. I wouldnt go swapping cards from device to device.
Why didn't she just connect her Android phone to the USB port of your iconia via the cable?
erica_renee said:
You can do Bluetooth file sharing between tablet and iteration non android devices.just pare them. I think you have to send the file from the phone.
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Thanks, I'll have to give that a try when she brings the tablet back.
drkalo said:
Why didn't she just connect her Android phone to the USB port of your iconia via the cable?
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Well, that would have been possible, if she'd had the cable available on the bus.
Looking for my sd slot on my nexus s
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nfazz said:
From my touch pro2 i send files to the A500 via bluetooth. Im sure you can do the same with a android phone. I wouldnt go swapping cards from device to device.
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I've found that bluetooth usually works pretty well for transferring small files. It seems to be too slow to transfer larger files quickly, however. With files over 20mb in size I try to use a cable, or even a thumb drive with the acer.
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drkalo said:
Why didn't she just connect her Android phone to the USB port of your iconia via the cable?
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also, my Acer doesn't seem to recognize my android phone when I connect them via usb cable. I'm using an LG Revolution. Maybe it works on other phones, but maybe the acer just won't recognize another android os?
erica_renee said:
Just be careful putting the SD card in and out of devices. I think the locking tab on most micro SD cards is much too small and will wear off..
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Do the MicroSD cards have locking tabs? The ones I have dont.... thought it was only on the full size.
But aside from that... the OP had the exact same thought as me when I got my tab. Although i really wanted a full size SD slot for the extra capacity and to swap with my camera, I ended up using a Mini/Full SD adapter to use the Minis in my camera.
I bought this from my local Kmart and use the USB adapter in my A500 to read MicroSD from my phone or another tablet. Beats the crap out of actually trying to fiddle the one out from my tablet, and it has the bonus of being able to plug into my PC and my car stereo's USB port if I want to listen to music from it.
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-SDHC-Ad...J7FA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1321670793&sr=8-2
Works really well and its a tiny little thing, I can leave it plugged into my tablets USB port all the time and it doesn't get in the way too much at all.
Cheasy123 said:
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also, my Acer doesn't seem to recognize my android phone when I connect them via usb cable. I'm using an LG Revolution. Maybe it works on other phones, but maybe the acer just won't recognize another android os?
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You need to turn on USB storage on the phone!
kpfx said:
Do the MicroSD cards have locking tabs? The ones I have dont.... thought it was only on the full size.
But aside from that... the OP had the exact same thought as me when I got my tab. Although i really wanted a full size SD slot for the capacity and to swap with my camera, I just used one of the SD adapters to use the Minis in devices that use full sezed.
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Not write protect locking. Ian refering to the tiny bump on the side of the card that holds it into the slot.This is not used on many phones. But the Iconia SD card locked in by this tab.I have a SD card I used alot between two phones with music on it.this card will not stay in position on my tablet that lock (little bump on card) is worn off
drkalo said:
You need to turn on USB storage on the phone!
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Even with USB storage turned on it won't recognize it! My computer can see both drives on my phone just fine but the tablet gets nothing :/
I intentionally bought a micro SD card + SD adapter for my digital camera so I can easily swap the card into my tablet to transfer photos over. Yes, a USB adapter would have done the job with a regular SD but this is one less thing to carry around. Now I can swap Micro SDs between my tablet, camera and phone. It feels good to be connected

[Q] WiFi-connected mobile storage?

Maybe this belongs in the Accessories subforum...
I'm seriously considering the N4, but like many others, am a bit concerned about the lack of microSD expandability (and yes, I've read ALL the pro & con arguments). Has anyone researched or used one of these WiFi-connected mobile storage alternatives? Objective opinions (I know that's asking a lot )?
Seagate Satellite
or
Airstash
Both seem to have their pluses and minuses (besides expense). Neither seems to enable WiFi pass-through routing, so you'd lose WiFi connectivity to the outside world while using these. Both are in the $150 range retail. Both would get around large cloud-based data xfers, so limited-speed or limited-size data plans wouldn't be an issue. Both could be used with other phones or WiFi tablets, as well.
Satellite -- Bigger size, but huge 500GB capacity. Has NTFS for large files. Can support multiple connections simultaneously.
Airstash -- Smaller size, uses (or reuses) removable SD cards, FAT32 filesystem limits file size to 4GB. SD/SDHC capacity to 32GB, SDXC cap. to 2TB (theoretically - good luck finding or affording a 2TB card)
Just asking...
arschend said:
Maybe this belongs in the Accessories subforum...
I'm seriously considering the N4, but like many others, am a bit concerned about the lack of microSD expandability (and yes, I've read ALL the pro & con arguments). Has anyone researched or used one of these WiFi-connected mobile storage alternatives? Objective opinions (I know that's asking a lot )?
Seagate Satellite
or
Airstash
Both seem to have their pluses and minuses (besides expense). Neither seems to enable WiFi pass-through routing, so you'd lose WiFi connectivity to the outside world while using these. Both are in the $150 range retail. Both would get around large cloud-based data xfers, so limited-speed or limited-size data plans wouldn't be an issue. Both could be used with other phones or WiFi tablets, as well.
Satellite -- Bigger size, but huge 500GB capacity. Has NTFS for large files. Can support multiple connections simultaneously.
Airstash -- Smaller size, uses (or reuses) removable SD cards, FAT32 filesystem limits file size to 4GB. SD/SDHC capacity to 32GB, SDXC cap. to 2TB (theoretically - good luck finding or affording a 2TB card)
Just asking...
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Thanks for mentioning it.
i have the 500GB Seagate Satellite, it works perfectly *shrug* what else is there to say?
arschend said:
Maybe this belongs in the Accessories subforum...
I'm seriously considering the N4, but like many others, am a bit concerned about the lack of microSD expandability (and yes, I've read ALL the pro & con arguments). Has anyone researched or used one of these WiFi-connected mobile storage alternatives? Objective opinions (I know that's asking a lot )?
Just asking...
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Hmm my biggest concern is the price. If you pay 130$ for this drive you can just buy another phone.
Much much cheaper is USB OTG/USB2Go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966864
You can mount a USB drive like a stick (cable costs 3$) and can access the data. I think I would stick with this possibility.
Androidmarketuser said:
Hmm my biggest concern is the price. If you pay 130$ for this drive you can just buy another phone.
Much much cheaper is USB OTG/USB2Go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966864
You can mount a USB drive like a stick (cable costs 3$) and can access the data. I think I would stick with this possibility.
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Good point. Also, it wouldn't require any extra power/recharging. If you can put up with occasionally having to plug-in a USB OTG and doing a bit of file swapping, it would be a MUCH cheaper option. If USB data xfer speeds are sufficient for streaming directly from an external USB-connected card, that could work, too. What's the USB 3.0 xfer speed spec?
arschend said:
Good point. Also, it wouldn't require any extra power/recharging. If you can put up with occasionally having to plug-in a USB OTG and doing a bit of file swapping, it would be a MUCH cheaper option. If USB data xfer speeds are sufficient for streaming directly from an external USB-connected card, that could work, too. What's the USB 3.0 xfer speed spec?
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Why would you need USB 3.0 to stream? There is a app called Nexus Media Importer, it can stream the files or someone told me that you can access the files easily with ES File Explorer.
I don't know how long the access time is but for larger files such as movies it would be great. If you are sitting in train or bus the usb cable shouldn't be annoying
Androidmarketuser said:
Why would you need USB 3.0 to stream?
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You are connecting to your external storage via USB, right? I believe the N4 USB port is spec'ed as 3.0.
It isn't USB 3.0 port, compare these pictures:
http://www.engadget.com/photos/google-nexus-4-hands-on/#5395910
There you can see that you can insert our old microUSB cable.
The new one looks like this:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/USB3-SuperSpeed-external-storage,4-A-252874-13.jpg
Edit: So just look for an OTG cable, which you can buy everywhere on the internet (for 3-7€) and you need a drive like a usb stick.
Hard drives can be used but need external power supply.
I've read that most should work but there can always appear problems...

[Q] Hard Drives & MicroSD

1. What format does the drive need to be to be read by the MOJO?
At the time of this writing: Hard drives need to be NTSC. They are mounted as READ ONLY, so you will not be able to save files. Bummer.
2. Same question, except for a 64GB MicroSDXC format...?
At the time of this writing: microSD must be formatted as FAT32 with 32K cluster size. They need to be set as a PRIMARY drive rather than LOGICAL.
1. NTFS or FAT32 usb 2.0 HDs work. I've tried USB 3.0 HDs and so far those haven't worked
2. I havn't tested a 64gig micro sd but most Android devices only recognize up to 32GB sd cards.
I've got a 64GB in my A700 and it works fine as FAT32. The CM ROMS have issue with it, however. Also, according to the MadCatz website: "For those of you who need more, there’s a microSD flash slot to accommodate SDXC cards up to 128GB!"
What format is your MicroSD?
ExtremeRyno said:
I've got a 64GB in my A700 and it works fine as FAT32. The CM ROMS have issue with it, however. Also, according to the MadCatz website: "For those of you who need more, there’s a microSD flash slot to accommodate SDXC cards up to 128GB!"
What format is your MicroSD?
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I'm using a 64gb micro sd, format FAT. Works great.
Try exFat. It's the "standard" format for SDXC type cards and unlike Fat32 you're not limited to files less than 4 gigs in size. It's the format i use on my Galaxy Note 10.1 (last year's model). It should come in exFat anyway.
Or the simplest solution would be to rip open the packaging, stick it in the MOJO and if it tells you it needs to be formatted format it. That way it's in whatever format the MOJO prefers and your pc/laptop in all likelihood will recognise the format.
Also I'm guessing you're just going to leave it in there most of the time. To avoid card readers and sync cables I normally use FTPServer on my phone and tablet and the filezilla client on the pc, and to transfer stuff to the network drive I use the android ftp client andftp (there are file explorers like ES Explorer which can handle samba connections and FTP connections but I find they're a bit slower).
Avoid NTFS on flash media. From what I've been told it uses too many read/writes which isbad for flash media due to their limited write cycles.
Yeah, I didn't even think about formatting until after I had loaded my card down with movies and music and games....exFat = Nope.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48943761&postcount=5
FAT32.
Time to backup and reformat.
ExtremeRyno said:
Yeah, I didn't even think about formatting until after I had loaded my card down with movies and music and games....exFat = Nope.
Found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48943761&postcount=5
FAT32.
Time to backup and reformat.
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No ExFat support? Wow. Mad Catz put NO effort into the software of this device, did they. Just using the stock OS without bothering to add in bluetooth 4.0 support and just throwing in a dongle to compensate (various phone providers, i.e. HTC have a history of providing a better than stock bluetooth stack), no camera support, no exFat support (this just makes them cheapskates since they just needed to license it crom Microsoft like the phone makers that provide it on their phones and tablets).
I still have time to decide. I was planning on buying it on amazon, sending it to a friend and then having them bring it when they visited in order to avoid the overpriced shipping and import fees but I'm starting to think I'd be better off with a cheap quadcore A15 device with an SoC like the A80 from allwinner and a Moga controller. It would be cheaper, have better play store support and be more versatile from what I'm reading on here...
Considering how little effort they've put into the software I wouldn't be surprised if they never got around to the KitKat upgrade. Companies who put more effort into the OS often fail whdn it comes to promised upgrades. And if Mad Catz never upgrades the OS it means users are limited to just ONE USB port which seriously cuts dow on usability.
Wait, are you saying you can only use one usb port at a time because of the OS version?
jjprichards said:
Wait, are you saying you can only use one usb port at a time because of the OS version?
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yes beacause if there's no update to kitkat the BT smart dongle is in one already and will have to stay there.
I think it will come out, they have said it would a few times now. so just a matter of when.
yip I tested mine, no exFat support... a bit of a shame
Buy an USB Hub.
You can use hdd with ntfs should be much better then exfat.
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jjprichards said:
Wait, are you saying you can only use one usb port at a time because of the OS version?
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At this time- the controller requires a dongle which takes up one of the usb slots.
You are left with the micro SD slot and the usb 3.0 slot.
When the Kitkat update arrives, you will be able to remove the dongle and have the usb 2.0 slot available.
The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update.
The point of mojo is to do everything via bluetooth and wifi.
That's the beauty of the machine.
Mojorising said:
At this time- the controller requires a dongle which takes up one of the usb slots.
You are left with the micro SD slot and the usb 3.0 slot.
When the Kitkat update arrives, you will be able to remove the dongle and have the usb 2.0 slot available.
The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update.
The point of mojo is to do everything via bluetooth and wifi.
That's the beauty of the machine.
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What do you mean by "The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update. "?
jjprichards said:
What do you mean by "The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update. "?
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Why use a usb to transfer data when you can pull data/stream data from your pc?
saenta said:
Buy an USB Hub.
You can use hdd with ntfs should be much better then exfat.
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Mojorising said:
At this time- the controller requires a dongle which takes up one of the usb slots.
You are left with the micro SD slot and the usb 3.0 slot.
When the Kitkat update arrives, you will be able to remove the dongle and have the usb 2.0 slot available.
The usb's will probably be obsolete soon anyway- seeing as PC streaming is coming in the kitkat update.
The point of mojo is to do everything via bluetooth and wifi.
That's the beauty of the machine.
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First of all, the point is that you're not getting the functionality promised. You are told that it's a micro-console with TWO usb ports and you can either give up the controller, or give up a usb port. Secondly a usb hub can be an okay solution but you then have to worry about getting a normal one or a powered one and how much it will affect throughput splitting it up depending on what devices you have attached. And as is others here have reported problems in using both USB drives simultaneously (and that some drives work better in one than the other).
Yes, streaming is good, you can actually use it right now if you´re just talking about transferring files, but if you're told you'll get two USB ports you should GET two functional and available usb ports.
KitKat upgrade. They've mentioned it, but don't think there's actually an official announcement. Plus they could have had that functionality there since the beginning. Smartphone and tablet makers add/take away functionality from Android and its Kernel. Heck, people HERE do it all the time. So why can't Mad Catz. And how long exactly do people have to wait for the upgrade? As the saying goes, buy a device for what it can do today, not what it can do tomorrow. Manufacturers often don't come through on promised upgrades.
Also to say that you/they support SDXC without a disclaimer saying that you can't use exFat is fraudulent as exFat is STANDARD on SDXC. If they made all this clear from the beginning it wouldn't be so bad but they don't and as such mislead their (potential) clients. Who cares about friendly and speedy support if they can't actually solve the issues present?
I would use the USB to hold a thumb drive full of data like the ISOs I've ripped from my GameCube and PSX for emulation. (Trying to get my wife to give up the Wii to our son when the Android port of Dolphin reaches maturity).
Formatted my card as FAT32, loaded it down, NO LUCK.
Tried the card in two computers and it shows up as FAT32 with all files intact. I'm on my A700 right now, popped it in, and it is working just fine.
There really needs to be a reboot option on the MOJO...Yes, I rebooted..no luck. Causes FC from settings when I try to see my storage.
Thoughts?
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Formatted my card as FAT32, loaded it down, NO LUCK.
Tried the card in two computers and it shows up as FAT32 with all files intact. I'm on my A700 right now, popped it in, and it is working just fine.
There really needs to be a reboot option on the MOJO...Yes, I rebooted..no luck. Causes FC from settings when I try to see my storage.
Thoughts?
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Are getting any message when you stick it in?
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Are getting any message when you stick it in?
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When you put the USB in, do you see it say, preparing USB in the top left?
You then have to go to your mojo settings, storage, and 'mount USB'.
It will. Then show up.
To unmount, go to settings, storage, unmount.
Working now?
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Are getting any message when you stick it in?
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Nothing.
When it was formatted as exFAT, I could at least get to the storage options...just wouldn't mount.
I'm trying an extHD to connect.
First try 1 partition 1TB NTFS - recognized and mounted without problems on USB 3.0 port. (but NTFS don't work on my LG G2)
2nd try 4 partitions 1,2,3,4, extFat 256GB recognized, but can't mount. (but works fine on LG G2)
3rd try 4 partitions 1 NTFS, 2,3 extFat and 4 NTFS - don't work
4rd try 1 partition 1TB extFat - can't mount.
So, I let this thing NTFS formatted now. :silly:
If the M.O.J.O could be rooted, we could use tools to mount ALL formats and ALL partitions.
Solution for my rooted LG G2 was simple. " Paragon NTFS & HFS+ " is a free tool in Play Store.
NTFS is r/w now on my smartphone and r/o on the Mojo.

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