Hooking up a USB Hardisk to the HTC Universal - JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General

Hi People!
Is it Yes or Not possible to hook up a USB hardisk to the HTC Universal (providing the hard disk is powered externaly) to exchange file between the Universla and the Hardisk?

No

I'm sure some day there'll be a way, but dont hold your breath...

So does it have USB host? I thought the previous conclusion was that it didn't come enabled after all?
Why do you want to hook up a drive anyhow? What's wrong with a UNC connection over WiFi?

Why not use a 4GB SD card?

Hi
i use my Toshiba e800 as storage transfer solution of my pictures.
I connect an 80GB usb hardrive to the toshiba and insert my 2gb lexar memories on the CF slot for backup photos on hollidays ....
The issue is ? thoes the universal have usb host function ????

fcaeiro said:
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The issue is ? thoes the universal have usb host function ????
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No they don't.
We all hope it's just a matter of OS/Drivers and maybe a day in the future an update will give Universal usb host capability.
Roberto

Forget it. Only the CPU supports the USB Host feature. HTC chose not to include the neccessary remaining hardware on the device's mainboard, hence something a driver can never cure.

What about an SDIO USB host? Possible? Do they exist already?

Buy a laptop if you need that much space. This isn't a PC, it is a phone with PDA functionality. Show me any other PDA you can do this to? You can't.

saldous said:
Buy a laptop if you need that much space. This isn't a PC, it is a phone with PDA functionality. Show me any other PDA you can do this to? You can't.
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Toshiba 740
Toshiba E800
Toshiba E830
Asus (several models)
Siemens Pocket loox
And several other i don't know by head....

for me it will be the nicest thing in order to use the digicam as a usb drive in order to copy/send pictures

xiasma said:
What about an SDIO USB host? Possible? Do they exist already?
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That's what I was alluding to earlier, shouldn't be too long before they're available, I read about them on some website a couple of months ago but I can't find the flippin' link now.
Can't honestly say I'd use that much memory though, 2Gb is enough for me for the forseeable future.

when comparing mb / £ a HDD is the only real solution so far,
especially if you want vga res videos running. SD cards are good but only having 1-4 movies on a 2gb card becomes a pain.
i use a 2.5" hdd in a caddy hardly bigger than the drive, its only a 10gb drive atm as it is all that was avaliable "freely" :wink: , but it is WAY WAY WAY handier than a handful of SD's to ship data around
hdd usb conectivity would only be an interim step in the right direction, when 40gb+ SD type cards are mainstream and can be housed in the universal without ever needing to swap to your "videos" sd or your "music" sd or your "data" sd, then we are approaching the ideal situation.
but we wont get there until the basics are met first.

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Copying large files.. best method?

I'm copying largish files to my storage card (around 200MB) But the progress bar moves REALLY slowly, then gets to about 50%, then it starts over again.. then loops!
I've been copying smaller files (~10-20MB) with no problems whatsoever...
btw: do i HAVE to have activesync loaded to be able to access the storage card?
Any help appreciated, thanks
I could not find a way round this problem with activesync, hopefully someone else will help, I gave up and bought a USB2 universal card read/writer for less than a fiver, this is very quick and large files are no problem, also it plugs into the same lead used for the JasJar. Not sure where you are based, I bought from Ebuyer, good price on Viking 1Gb SD as well.
There is a utility called "WM5torage" available that turns your Universal into a card reader. You don't need AS for this but you do need an OS that will recognise a Mass Storage Device.
If you are giong to be transferring files this size regularly then go the card reader route, less wear and tear on the fragile USB port on the Uni.
PReDiToR said:
There is a utility called "WM5torage" available that turns your Universal into a card reader. You don't need AS for this but you do need an OS that will recognise a Mass Storage Device.
If you are giong to be transferring files this size regularly then go the card reader route, less wear and tear on the fragile USB port on the Uni.
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Hmmm ok i might get a SD card reader then, i guess, along with a 2GB card heh
Is the USB port delicate? It seems pretty sturdy to me?!
Pooper said:
PReDiToR said:
There is a utility called "WM5torage"
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Hmmm ok i might get a SD card reader then, i guess, along with a 2GB card heh
Is the USB port delicate? It seems pretty sturdy to me?!
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No, there is no need to buy a card reader. Just use this application: "WM5torage", as PReDiToR mentioned from above to transfer large files. This small app transforms your Universal into a card reader and it is free. It is similar in function as Softick's Card Export II.
You can download it here: http://www.modaco.com/index.php?act=dscript&CODE=showdetails&f_id=1702
Mmmm.. I'm not sure I undestand how WM5torage does anything different that connecting the HTC to a PC as usual and accessing the storage card via the file explorer. Am I missing something?
mdaexecfan said:
Mmmm.. I'm not sure I undestand how WM5torage does anything different that connecting the HTC to a PC as usual and accessing the storage card via the file explorer. Am I missing something?
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Ohh ok, i was just worried by the 'fragile USB port' comment!

Succky file tranafer

I love my wing but one of the several suckky things about it is the file transfer, if i am transfering a files that is anything bigger han like 5o mb it takes mad long to tranfser from my pc to my phone. And files like movies are impossible to transfer. I was trying to transfer a movie to my phone and even after waiting about 5 hrs. it did not finish the transfer. That basically means that i can't use my phone as video player. That suck, or is there a way that i could speed up the ttransfer speeds, tips tricks hacks, anything is fine. Except i don't want ot go too far with the hacks. Thanks people
Why dont you just pop-in the microSD into its SD adapter and put it into the cardreader? I'm using a sandisk branded microSD and it transfer 1.7GB in <5mins!
For smaller data transfers(<40mb),I use activesync.
I am aware of the solution that you gave me, but the problem is that my computer does not recognize the micro SD card in the SD adopter, which by the way is Sandisk branded and the two came together. Is there a way i can make that work??
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I am aware of the solution that you gave me, but the problem is that my computer does not recognize the micro SD card in the SD adopter, which by the way is Sandisk branded and the two came together. Is there a way i can make that work??
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there are also usb-sticks where you can put a microsd... for me that worked..
USB 1.1. Crazy right?
hidavi said:
USB 1.1. Crazy right?
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no the usb sticks are usb2!!!
http://www.dooyoo.de/sonstige-speicher-adapter/kingston-usb-microsd-reader-plus-card/
papamopps said:
no the usb sticks are usb2!!!
http://www.dooyoo.de/sonstige-speicher-adapter/kingston-usb-microsd-reader-plus-card/
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I think he meant the phone's built in connection.
^exactly what I meant. A $15 1GB flash drive has USB 2.0, but this $400 phone can't...
yay, my computer recognizes my card, but still no good.
Ok so finally after waiting an hour for my computer to recognize my Micro sd card which was in an sd adopter, it finally did it. But then when i tried to open it it took another 35 minutes to respond. And then it said that the card is'nt formatted and asked me if i wanted to format it. i know that if i format it for my computer all it's previous data will disaper, so what should i do.
There is a possibility that the cardreader doesn´t support the size of your memorycard. For examplae my laptop is equipped with a bulit-in cardreader that supports SD&Memorystick BUT only up to 1GB. Anything above that (for example my 2GB card from my digicam) and I get the same results as you do. Sometimes i isn´t recognized and sometimes it is but extremely slow but I can never write anything to it.
So is there anything i can do about that?

usb thumb drive instead of PC?

I tried searching to see if this has already been discussed, but like all vBulletin forums, the search function rejected USB and Pen (as in pen drive) and a few other essential but three-letter words. So I found zero.
I have a 4 GB USB U3 thumb drive that I always carry with me--until I lose it, that is. I would like to load it up activesync (or not--whatever works) and a whole bunch of files I want to install on my HTC Touch Pro (AT&T Fuze). I have a short cable with a male mini USB connector at one end and a female regular-sized USB connector on the other (so I can slip the male USB thumb drive connector into the cable and thence connect it to my TouchPro).
I'm not sure whether this will work, but it seems like it should. This way, I can carry with me all of my files-to-be-installed and work on customizing my fuze anytime, anywhere. I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little. (i have a 32 GB F card and a 32 GB SD card in my iP 211.)
For starters, I can't even figure out how to install Windows Mobile Device Center on the thumb drive--the process keeps wanting to mess with the AS/Winmobile Device Center already istalled (and used for another WM device).
Maybe there's a way to do with without AS or the Device Center. That's fine with me. All I care about is having access to the many, many apps I have waiting on the flash drive.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Sandra
Im no expert, but I dont think many devices have the capability for being hosts, meaning they cant have external memory devices attach except through the supplied card slot.
There are a couple out there which can handle it, but they normally come with a usb port built in. Otherwise I doubt its possible. I dont think its one of those things which can be programmed. Of course, I could be entirely wrong about it.
Edit: Ok, im completely wrong about it. I just found a web page through google saying that many devices with wm on dating back to Pocket PC 2002 do in fact have the ability to do it.
My bad. lol
http://www.mypdacafe.com/articles.php?id=219
See this threads for discussion on Touch Pro's USB host possibilities:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411905&highlight=usb+host
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I don't want to store the installation files on my micro SD card because that wee thing holds soooo very little.
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What size do you have? They are currently available up to 16 gig, and 32 is coming. I keep all my cabs on my Sandisk 16. As for USB host, see the post above with the link to the thread. The chipset does not appear to support it. BTW, if you do a search on "USB host", you will find the thread.
I'm about to follow those links you guys recommended, but I wanted to say a quick thanks to you all. I didn't know anything about USB hosting, etc, and it's a whole lot easier to think anything is possible if you don't know anything than if you are well-educated. (OTOH, I suppose that that knowing might also inhibit experimenting which means you don't pursue new ideas. Hence the box we have to think outside of.)
Thanks again,
Sandra
I'd recommend a Trio adapter: Trio is not a brand name, just a mechanical name they have given this adapter. I had one made by A-Data and its awesome.
The adapter itself is an SD card that accepts a MicroSD on the side. However, the neat part is the fact that you can remove a piece and voila! you have a USB stick.
http://memoryworld.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=14&products_id=386 is the first hit from google. I bought mine from Newegg way back in the day. Sadly it was ran over when my phone was. The MicroSD card was good, but the adapter died. I am saving up to get the new SDHC version and a 16GB MicroSD card.
BE ADVISED: there are similar products out there called DUAL adapters: the memory is non removable in those. What that means is that there is no MicroSD card that comes out.
Enjoy!

Sometimes, microSD is better than SD

I've seen many people complain that they wish the Iconia had a full-size SD slot and not a microSD one. Today, I realized that microSD can be a big advantage.
My wife is on a school trip this weekend, currently on a bus with 60 high-schoolers. She just called because she realized that she'd left behind some important instructions that she's supposed to read to the kids on the bus. I can e-mail them to her, but the problem is that the tablet (my Acer Iconia) doesn't have a WiFi connection on the bus and lacks 3G so she can't receive the e-mail there. The instructions would be too small to easily read from her phone. Fortunately, her phone is an Android one with a microSD card. So, I've e-mailed her the instructions - she can save them on the microSD card, swap the card into the tablet, copy the file to the tablet's memory, and then return the cards. This will put the document on the tablet, where she can easily read it.
This made me realize that a similar solution would be useful with photos. I can take the photos on my camera, copy them to the tablet and convert the RAW images to 800x600 JPGs. Next, I can put the JPGs on a microSD card in the tablet's card slot and then put that card into an Android phone to e-mail them as desired. True, having 3G on the tablet, or setting up tethering with the phone, would be better options, but neither are available to me at the present. So, this will be a great solution - when I replace my iPhone with an Android (I hope to have a Samsung Galaxy SII LTE/Skyrocket soon).
Thanks for that post. It just shows how far we have come with technology over the years and how tablets are becoming part of every day life.
Just be careful putting the SD card in and out of devices. I think the locking tab on most micro SD cards is much too small and will wear off. This will make the card not hold in.Safari as the Iconia its tough to get micro card locked in .for me anyway.I don't think micro slots should be mechanically spring loaded to small to work correctly.
You can do Bluetooth file sharing between tablet and iteration non android devices.just pare them. I think you have to send the file from the phone.
From my touch pro2 i send files to the A500 via bluetooth. Im sure you can do the same with a android phone. I wouldnt go swapping cards from device to device.
Why didn't she just connect her Android phone to the USB port of your iconia via the cable?
erica_renee said:
You can do Bluetooth file sharing between tablet and iteration non android devices.just pare them. I think you have to send the file from the phone.
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Thanks, I'll have to give that a try when she brings the tablet back.
drkalo said:
Why didn't she just connect her Android phone to the USB port of your iconia via the cable?
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Well, that would have been possible, if she'd had the cable available on the bus.
Looking for my sd slot on my nexus s
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nfazz said:
From my touch pro2 i send files to the A500 via bluetooth. Im sure you can do the same with a android phone. I wouldnt go swapping cards from device to device.
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I've found that bluetooth usually works pretty well for transferring small files. It seems to be too slow to transfer larger files quickly, however. With files over 20mb in size I try to use a cable, or even a thumb drive with the acer.
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drkalo said:
Why didn't she just connect her Android phone to the USB port of your iconia via the cable?
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also, my Acer doesn't seem to recognize my android phone when I connect them via usb cable. I'm using an LG Revolution. Maybe it works on other phones, but maybe the acer just won't recognize another android os?
erica_renee said:
Just be careful putting the SD card in and out of devices. I think the locking tab on most micro SD cards is much too small and will wear off..
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Do the MicroSD cards have locking tabs? The ones I have dont.... thought it was only on the full size.
But aside from that... the OP had the exact same thought as me when I got my tab. Although i really wanted a full size SD slot for the extra capacity and to swap with my camera, I ended up using a Mini/Full SD adapter to use the Minis in my camera.
I bought this from my local Kmart and use the USB adapter in my A500 to read MicroSD from my phone or another tablet. Beats the crap out of actually trying to fiddle the one out from my tablet, and it has the bonus of being able to plug into my PC and my car stereo's USB port if I want to listen to music from it.
http://www.amazon.com/Micro-SDHC-Ad...J7FA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1321670793&sr=8-2
Works really well and its a tiny little thing, I can leave it plugged into my tablets USB port all the time and it doesn't get in the way too much at all.
Cheasy123 said:
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also, my Acer doesn't seem to recognize my android phone when I connect them via usb cable. I'm using an LG Revolution. Maybe it works on other phones, but maybe the acer just won't recognize another android os?
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You need to turn on USB storage on the phone!
kpfx said:
Do the MicroSD cards have locking tabs? The ones I have dont.... thought it was only on the full size.
But aside from that... the OP had the exact same thought as me when I got my tab. Although i really wanted a full size SD slot for the capacity and to swap with my camera, I just used one of the SD adapters to use the Minis in devices that use full sezed.
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Not write protect locking. Ian refering to the tiny bump on the side of the card that holds it into the slot.This is not used on many phones. But the Iconia SD card locked in by this tab.I have a SD card I used alot between two phones with music on it.this card will not stay in position on my tablet that lock (little bump on card) is worn off
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You need to turn on USB storage on the phone!
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Even with USB storage turned on it won't recognize it! My computer can see both drives on my phone just fine but the tablet gets nothing :/
I intentionally bought a micro SD card + SD adapter for my digital camera so I can easily swap the card into my tablet to transfer photos over. Yes, a USB adapter would have done the job with a regular SD but this is one less thing to carry around. Now I can swap Micro SDs between my tablet, camera and phone. It feels good to be connected

[Q] WiFi-connected mobile storage?

Maybe this belongs in the Accessories subforum...
I'm seriously considering the N4, but like many others, am a bit concerned about the lack of microSD expandability (and yes, I've read ALL the pro & con arguments). Has anyone researched or used one of these WiFi-connected mobile storage alternatives? Objective opinions (I know that's asking a lot )?
Seagate Satellite
or
Airstash
Both seem to have their pluses and minuses (besides expense). Neither seems to enable WiFi pass-through routing, so you'd lose WiFi connectivity to the outside world while using these. Both are in the $150 range retail. Both would get around large cloud-based data xfers, so limited-speed or limited-size data plans wouldn't be an issue. Both could be used with other phones or WiFi tablets, as well.
Satellite -- Bigger size, but huge 500GB capacity. Has NTFS for large files. Can support multiple connections simultaneously.
Airstash -- Smaller size, uses (or reuses) removable SD cards, FAT32 filesystem limits file size to 4GB. SD/SDHC capacity to 32GB, SDXC cap. to 2TB (theoretically - good luck finding or affording a 2TB card)
Just asking...
arschend said:
Maybe this belongs in the Accessories subforum...
I'm seriously considering the N4, but like many others, am a bit concerned about the lack of microSD expandability (and yes, I've read ALL the pro & con arguments). Has anyone researched or used one of these WiFi-connected mobile storage alternatives? Objective opinions (I know that's asking a lot )?
Seagate Satellite
or
Airstash
Both seem to have their pluses and minuses (besides expense). Neither seems to enable WiFi pass-through routing, so you'd lose WiFi connectivity to the outside world while using these. Both are in the $150 range retail. Both would get around large cloud-based data xfers, so limited-speed or limited-size data plans wouldn't be an issue. Both could be used with other phones or WiFi tablets, as well.
Satellite -- Bigger size, but huge 500GB capacity. Has NTFS for large files. Can support multiple connections simultaneously.
Airstash -- Smaller size, uses (or reuses) removable SD cards, FAT32 filesystem limits file size to 4GB. SD/SDHC capacity to 32GB, SDXC cap. to 2TB (theoretically - good luck finding or affording a 2TB card)
Just asking...
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Thanks for mentioning it.
i have the 500GB Seagate Satellite, it works perfectly *shrug* what else is there to say?
arschend said:
Maybe this belongs in the Accessories subforum...
I'm seriously considering the N4, but like many others, am a bit concerned about the lack of microSD expandability (and yes, I've read ALL the pro & con arguments). Has anyone researched or used one of these WiFi-connected mobile storage alternatives? Objective opinions (I know that's asking a lot )?
Just asking...
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Hmm my biggest concern is the price. If you pay 130$ for this drive you can just buy another phone.
Much much cheaper is USB OTG/USB2Go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966864
You can mount a USB drive like a stick (cable costs 3$) and can access the data. I think I would stick with this possibility.
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Hmm my biggest concern is the price. If you pay 130$ for this drive you can just buy another phone.
Much much cheaper is USB OTG/USB2Go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1966864
You can mount a USB drive like a stick (cable costs 3$) and can access the data. I think I would stick with this possibility.
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Good point. Also, it wouldn't require any extra power/recharging. If you can put up with occasionally having to plug-in a USB OTG and doing a bit of file swapping, it would be a MUCH cheaper option. If USB data xfer speeds are sufficient for streaming directly from an external USB-connected card, that could work, too. What's the USB 3.0 xfer speed spec?
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Good point. Also, it wouldn't require any extra power/recharging. If you can put up with occasionally having to plug-in a USB OTG and doing a bit of file swapping, it would be a MUCH cheaper option. If USB data xfer speeds are sufficient for streaming directly from an external USB-connected card, that could work, too. What's the USB 3.0 xfer speed spec?
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Why would you need USB 3.0 to stream? There is a app called Nexus Media Importer, it can stream the files or someone told me that you can access the files easily with ES File Explorer.
I don't know how long the access time is but for larger files such as movies it would be great. If you are sitting in train or bus the usb cable shouldn't be annoying
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Why would you need USB 3.0 to stream?
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You are connecting to your external storage via USB, right? I believe the N4 USB port is spec'ed as 3.0.
It isn't USB 3.0 port, compare these pictures:
http://www.engadget.com/photos/google-nexus-4-hands-on/#5395910
There you can see that you can insert our old microUSB cable.
The new one looks like this:
http://media.bestofmicro.com/USB3-SuperSpeed-external-storage,4-A-252874-13.jpg
Edit: So just look for an OTG cable, which you can buy everywhere on the internet (for 3-7€) and you need a drive like a usb stick.
Hard drives can be used but need external power supply.
I've read that most should work but there can always appear problems...

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