Can i start my G1 with no SIM CARD? - G1 General

Helo i bought today a second hand G1...
i will buy tomorrow a sim card but can i start my g1 without a simcard

If you bought it, why not just try it?
And yes, you can.

Crembo said:
If you bought it, why not just try it?
And yes, you can.
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i tried it it say no sim card inserted pls help

I have that problem with my G1. Sometimes it recognizes my sim card and sometimes it doesn't, but once it does it keeps working and doesn't think I took out my sim card.

This thread is idiotic.
1) The OP **DID** try it without a simcard in.
2) It *DID* start up and worked just fine (though obviously wouldn't make phone calls).
HE DIDN'T ASK A QUESTION, HE MADE A STATEMENT.
A statement of ZERO value.
And followed it up by ANOTHER statement that has the same value as the first.... when it has no simcard, it says that it has no simcard.... well gee, I wonder why that might be?

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Can I duplicate a sim card?

I love my wizard, but sometimes I want to take something smaller with me. I have another cellphone, but I don't want to have to pull them apart and switch the sims every time I swap them. Is there anything out there that will make an exact copy of a sim card so i could keep one in both of them and then just turn off one when I'm not using it?
guttrhead said:
I love my wizard, but sometimes I want to take something smaller with me. I have another cellphone, but I don't want to have to pull them apart and switch the sims every time I swap them. Is there anything out there that will make an exact copy of a sim card so i could keep one in both of them and then just turn off one when I'm not using it?
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they do that here in Bulgaria, but you have to be VEERY careful to switch off the unused one..
I know it is a lenghty process and takes a day to clone the card
guttrhead: what country are you in?
Have a search on the board for multi sims or clone sims.
Basically, in Western Europe, you're unlikely to have much success due to the encryption system used in the SIM.
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Most providers here in europe offer DUO SIM solutions, where they provide you with a second sim with your telephone number so you can put that in a second phone or a car system. Most of them only charge a small one-time fee for it.
Of cource only one of the SIM's can be active.
Cheers
Cactus
I'm in the US on cingular. I'm thinking about just buying something like this from ebay. If it doesn't work, at least I could use the sim utilities it has, considering the wizard doesnt really have any.
guttrhead: as le_cactus says, if you can get a 2nd sim, get one.
However, cloning a sim requires cracking its protection. In this country at least, that can be destructive to the sim, and even then, not successful.
I've posted a number of posts on this issue. But I have no experience with US sims...
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guttrhead said:
I'm in the US on cingular. I'm thinking about just buying something like this from ebay. If it doesn't work, at least I could use the sim utilities it has, considering the wizard doesnt really have any.
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Holy crap! This sounds awesome! Have you tried it? I'm thinking of just getting it too!
guttrhead said:
I'm in the US on cingular. I'm thinking about just buying something like this from ebay. If it doesn't work, at least I could use the sim utilities it has, considering the wizard doesnt really have any.
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Holy crap! This sounds awesome! Have you tried it? I'm thinking of just getting it too!
Multi SIM Cards avalible here in Thailand as well. Switch by *100# from Phone to Phone (up to 4 phones. Check with your provider!
I've just ordered one of these super sims. Looks like the donkey's dangler, then I can keep my wizard and universal on the go and switch as desired.
If it works of course... :lol:
I have a similar card reader + card... from another copmpany...
It works fine with portuguese cards... I have it for 2 years now...
As naugthy said, it really takes quite a few hours to read(crack) the original... just depends on how fast is your computer... mine took about 8-10 hours per card (2 years ago...)...
But they also warn that cracking the card *may* be destructive for the card... But if it happens, you can try to contact you network provider and ask for a replacement because it «just stopped working»... or something...
Cloner on ebay
It looks good .... but does it allow you to use your telephone service? Reading the details on the advert it seems to me that it only copies the data from your sim but mentions nothing about using it for calls/GPRS/GSM etc.
If it works let us know. I am a bit wary about swapping my sim between my MDA Pro and 6515 and this gadget looks an ideal solution if it really does work (I have my doubts :? ).
I will report back. And out of geek interest, I will be doing the cracking on an AMD FX55 processor with 4Gb of dual channel RAM, so I will time the cracking process.
Joe
joebongo said:
I will report back. And out of geek interest, I will be doing the cracking on an AMD FX55 processor with 4Gb of dual channel RAM, so I will time the cracking process.
Joe
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We just cant wait to hear from y m8! :lol:
Joost39 said:
joebongo said:
I will report back. And out of geek interest, I will be doing the cracking on an AMD FX55 processor with 4Gb of dual channel RAM, so I will time the cracking process.
Joe
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We just cant wait to hear from y m8! :lol:
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Same here. Guess I'll wait a bit on my purchase to see how it worked for you.
Re: Cloner on ebay
cranny said:
It looks good .... but does it allow you to use your telephone service? Reading the details on the advert it seems to me that it only copies the data from your sim but mentions nothing about using it for calls/GPRS/GSM etc.
If it works let us know. I am a bit wary about swapping my sim between my MDA Pro and 6515 and this gadget looks an ideal solution if it really does work (I have my doubts :? ).
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The kit I have has a card reader/writer and copying software. You need to copy/crack the sim card and save it into a file in your disk. You do this for the sims you want to copy (I have 2 cards, one for each network).
After that, you copy these files into the multi-card using the same software, and you're ready to use it.
It works perfectly for calls, gprs, gsm... In the SIM apllications area I have an extra app that enables me to switch between cards.
The card I own (not the one that was posted) only has one problem: it cannot have a PIN.
Can i just get another cingular sim and load the settings onto it, or does it have to be the super sim that comes with it.
guttrhead said:
Can i just get another cingular sim and load the settings onto it, or does it have to be the super sim that comes with it.
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It has to be the superSIM that comes with it...
At first I thought I'd wait for someone else to try the super-sim. Now I am regretting changing my mind.
No problem with the order - nice and quick. Super-Sim, USB sim reader, Installation CD and instruction card in a neat bubble pack. The instructions were not very clear to me (poor translation?) and contained warnings that some sims were not compatible and the copying process may destroy them. The instructions on the CD were a little clearer so I decided to take a chance.
Tried it with the T-Mobile sim from my MDA Pro. 3 Hours later it told me it wasn't going to work. Same for the o2 sim from my XDA2.
Both sims still appear to be working but as I understand it, the more cycles of trying to 'crack' the sims, the more chance of destroying them. This makes me reluctant to try again with different settings.
Sorry if I seem a bit vague but I didn't really know what I was doing. I could have done with better instructions.
Anyone know a little more about this please?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=190220#190220
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Sim card issue

Hello guys
I'm having an issue when my x10 says there's no Sim card inside and the problem isn't with my Sim card since I tried in my old phone and it works. Even other Rogers Sim card don't work. Anyway I tried taking the battery out and after 3 attempt its working again. So, I want to know anyone else having the same problem and what's the solution?
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I had the same issue but mine was a little different. My Xperia would not accept my rogers Sim ( 3 years old ) but it worked fine in all my other handsets.. it was the Sim card in my case and I was surprised to have it replaced free of charge.. also I found that some of the Sims are thinner than others so they would not have enough pressure to make a good contact. A quick fix from my friends Nokia was some clear tape on the back of his sim and it worked perfect.
Good luck!
htc fan89 said:
Hello guys
I'm having an issue when my x10 says there's no Sim card inside and the problem isn't with my Sim card since I tried in my old phone and it works. Even other Rogers Sim card don't work. Anyway I tried taking the battery out and after 3 attempt its working again. So, I want to know anyone else having the same problem and what's the solution?
Sent from my X10a
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TMobile's customer service department told me to bend the sim card very gently to ensure good contacts are made. Did this on first day and not had any problems since (famous last words... I'll be digging out the tape by tomorrow!)
My Sim card is like 5 year old anyway It's working now
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All u guys with 5yr old simcards need to get rid of them! Those have like 28kb of storage on them, so their phone books are so, so limited!
I know! U use the phones memory, which is a whooooooole bunch! But if your phone ever crashed, all your contacts will be gone! U cannot always copy the entire list of contacts to the sim card, but with a newer 3G simcard, you can copy a lot more than your 5yr old sim card can hold.
These are free! Just walk into your provider's store and request a new simcard. U dont even have to show them what kind of phone u have (ahem!... those of us who are skimming with grandfathered data plans ). Just walk in and say "left my phone at work, but I need a simcard".
I think this thread will help you
as it does for me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743818
I checked that thread, but I hadn't rooted my x10a yet. Going waiting until something extraordinary happens
Someday I will change my sim card lol

[Q] Please help me, I'm having problems

Hello evreyone.
I'm having a bit of a problem with my Samsung Omia II I8000.
I just got it from a friend of mine, and for 24 days or so it has been working great!
Really loved the phone untill the next thing happened:
I was playing a game on it, and I suddenley saw my phone didn't have connection with my provider. (Vodafone NL)
From that moment I thought it was strange, so I did a soft reset.
Nothing happend, still no connection, I did a hard reset.
Again, nothing happend, then I did a clean reset, and as you can guess... Still no connection.
I don't know if this sound fammiliar to you, but can you guys please help a man out?
Last thing i'm waiting for is buying a new phone.
Also the other things I tried:
-Opened the case, looking for the antenna wire, but it was still attached.
-Looked for a firmware update by looking at new pc studio, but it had the latest installed.
And somthing diffrent that might help you out, my wifi is working great, I don't now if that matters or not, but just to let you know..
Again: I REALLY,REALLY hope you guys can help me out!
Greetings, Olav
any one?
any one?
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any one?
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Have you tried either your sim card in a another phone to rule out the fact that your sim card is dead. And also have you tried another sim card in your phone just to verify that its not the sim card?
I will do these two things first before proceeding to do anything else.
I had a similar issue with my phone and was able to solve it by changing the sim card.
redoxy said:
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Have you tried either your sim card in a another phone to rule out the fact that your sim card is dead. And also have you tried another sim card in your phone just to verify that its not the sim card?
I will do these two things first before proceeding to do anything else.
I had a similar issue with my phone and was able to solve it by changing the sim card.
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Sorry, forgot to mention.
Yes I did that.
The sim is not dead.
Thanks in advance!
Greetings.
bump, still having the problem..
more than 190 views , still no one?
still looking for a way to fix it!

Phone still works after sim removed. How/why.

Yesterday I upgraded to a gs3 which came with a micro sim. I wanted to see if I could keep my old phone as a backup. Would the lte micro sim work in my non-lte full-sized-sim captivate/gs1?
After 3 trys i managed to properly align the micro sim in the full sized sim slot and it worked. But then the weird part. Without powering down the phone I plucked out the sim (possible because the micro sim is so small). To my surprise the phone did not give any error and both data and voice calls continued to work without a sim actually in the phone.
How was that possible? Further, what would have happened if I had booted up my new phone with the sim card that my old phone still thought it was using (I was too afraid to try)? Would both phones continue to work? Would they both ring when someone calls?
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any sim should work as long as its activated and its the same size.
and no they both wont work, the phone that has no sim will show "no sim" upon reboot
ovoxo said:
any sim should work as long as its activated and its the same size.
and no they both wont work, the phone that has no sim will show "no sim" upon reboot
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Perhaps I was not clear. I removed the sim without turning the phone off and it continued to work. I know it should not, but it does. That is what I am asking, how is that possible? Does the phone only check for a sim when it boots, and from then on the sim is not needed?
Then what would happen if I boot up phone #2 while phone #1 still thinks that the sim card is in it.
I'm interested, try it and let us know what happens.
cypho said:
Perhaps I was not clear. I removed the sim without turning the phone off and it continued to work. I know it should not, but it does. That is what I am asking, how is that possible? Does the phone only check for a sim when it boots, and from then on the sim is not needed?
Then what would happen if I boot up phone #2 while phone #1 still thinks that the sim card is in it.
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I'm not an expert, but I think all the SIM provides is a string of numbers that identifies the phone with a phone number. This is most likely cached in the device while it is on and it might not need the SIM card after it has already gotten the information. This might not pertain to all phones, maybe the Galaxy S3 was programmed slightly differently.
If you power down the phone and restart without the SIM, the phone will most likely ask you for a SIM.
It is an S1/Captivate that is working without a sim. And yes, when I reboot the phone it stops working. I'm not brave enough to try both phones at the same time. That seems like something that the phone company would notice.
I tried removing the SIM from my captivate while it was running, and for a short time it still showed signal. Soon after I got a message asking to put in a SIM and restart. I don't have an LTE SIM or microSIM to test with, but it doesn't seem likely that the cappy will continue to work without one. Or at least without starting with a regular SIM.
cypho said:
Perhaps I was not clear. I removed the sim without turning the phone off and it continued to work. I know it should not, but it does. That is what I am asking, how is that possible? Does the phone only check for a sim when it boots, and from then on the sim is not needed?
Then what would happen if I boot up phone #2 while phone #1 still thinks that the sim card is in it.
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i Know that this is an old thread but i just wanted to say that with some networks, you can take the sim out and still use the phone locally. they only use the sim for international or roaming outside the country. thats what i got from Sprint before. i dont know about other networks
Pease cany any body tell me who can download apps frpm this software
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[Q] some sim cards work but others don't

So to make a long story short, an old straight talk sim card works on my phone but some red pocket sim cards do not. I have tried many things to make the sim cards be recognized like turning the phone off and on, taking the sim card out and putting it back in. I'm wondering if anyone knows of some reason for a new sim card to not work. I just got 10 sims from ebay so I'm going through them hoping that one will work.
inteprid said:
So to make a long story short, an old straight talk sim card works on my phone but some red pocket sim cards do not. I have tried many things to make the sim cards be recognized like turning the phone off and on, taking the sim card out and putting it back in. I'm wondering if anyone knows of some reason for a new sim card to not work. I just got 10 sims from ebay so I'm going through them hoping that one will work.
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Are they cut-down?
xda6969 said:
Are they cut-down?
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nope.

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