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They can "speak out" all they want, but until they deliver, I'm not buying anything they say. As someone in the comments wrote, "talk is cheap". I honestly don't think ANY carrier / manufacturer is this bad with an update.
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They can "speak out" all they want, but until they deliver, I'm not buying anything they say. As someone in the comments wrote, "talk is cheap". I honestly don't think ANY carrier / manufacturer is this bad with an update.
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This article is why I love Engadget and all of the posts. It can become quite entertaining at times and that thread is very heated. People are beyond pissed off and all Samsung can still say is "soon"? WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT SAMSUNG! They should change the phone name to "The Daikatana 4G."
Let's see if anyone is old enough to get that reference.
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They should change the phone name to "The Daikatana 4G."
Let's see if anyone is old enough to get that reference.
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Samsung's about to make you it's b!tch!
Daikatana was actually released, you should use DNF as a reference instead.
EDIT how I wish Google did all the software work, the manufacturer just did hardware (and sometimes drivers), and the carrier just provided the service. It'd be like a real computer, and it would work.
Yeah, until we see an official ROM release from Samsung, their statement is nothing more than damage control for bad publicity. Their Twitter "support" was being bombarded with messages last night; it drew much attention from other tech sites. Samsung's next step is to come up with with an official (vague) excuse for the delay and then hope it tides the community over...
It's been half a year, promises are pretty shallow at this point.
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So Samsung says "The Reports aren't true." Way to go with some serious insight. I bet their next response will be when someone calls them frauds they'll say "I know you are but what am I?"
"You're a phoney! Hey,this guys a great big phoney!" -HC
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My response to Samsung:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=angi1vwUkQc
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOVXh4xM-Ww#t=2m (Substitute Samsung when he says the Fed)
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"You're a phoney! Hey,this guys a great big phoney!" -HC
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Folks keep in mind this was pretty much a direct response to the accusations that they're charging for upgrades. I'm not saying I believe the response or that they haven't been awful at providing an update or adequate communication.
What I'm saying is you clearly have to make accusations to get a response (true or not).
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Daikatana was actually released, you should use DNF as a reference instead.
EDIT how I wish Google did all the software work, the manufacturer just did hardware (and sometimes drivers), and the carrier just provided the service. It'd be like a real computer, and it would work.
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I'd like source code with my driver modules please
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Daikatana was actually released, you should use DNF as a reference instead.
EDIT how I wish Google did all the software work, the manufacturer just did hardware (and sometimes drivers), and the carrier just provided the service. It'd be like a real computer, and it would work.
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then windows might try and take over our phones!! noooooo
Screw samsung. As much as I love my Epic 4G's hardware, all their support and the community is much smaller. I probably will never buy Samsung again. I might even sell it and eat the ETF once the new androids/windows come out with dual cores.
lol they said soon......samsung should just stop selling phones.
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http://twitter.com/#!/sprint/status/28185273577775104
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The problem is when Samsung and Sprint say ASAP it really just means "Another Sorry A$$ Promise."
I'm sorry everyone. I am the reason why we don't have Froyo yet. Let me explain. Every other smart phone I have ever had in the past 5 years on Sprint was an HTC phone. I went through 3 or 4 Moguls, 2 Touch Pros, and 3 Touch Pro 2s. I thought that since I had so any issues with HTC hardware I would try a different manufacturer so I got the Epic. Well.... It looks like the black cloud has followed me! Anyone want to pony up and buy me an iPhone? LOL I'd love to take this black cloud over there!
Well it is nice to hear Samsung open up and say something, but I sure am getting tired of getting the "details will come soon" BS from both Samsung and Sprint. We've been hearing "details will come soon" for more than 4 months. Perhaps we have different definitions of the word "soon."
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Well it is nice to hear Samsung open up and say something, but I sure am getting tired of getting the "details will come soon" BS from both Samsung and Sprint. We've been hearing "details will come soon" for more than 4 months. Perhaps we have different definitions of the word "soon."
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I think with another other carrier releasing the 2.2 update for a SGS phone, it will put pressure on other carriers to follow. No longer can they say it's someone else's fault.
But honestly, I bet we'll see noobnl release an operational version of Gingerbread before we see Sprint push 2.2 out.
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So Samsung's bragging again that it's going to introduce a "evolution" and in the picture its the Galaxy S and then a white blog signifying it's "masterpiece" that it hopes to unveil on Feb. 13. Speculation seems to point at it's possibly them actually showing off the Vibrant 4G or another device.
The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
Take a read,
http://androidandme.com/2011/01/phones/samsung-to-introduce-the-next-evolution-of-the-galaxy-s-on-february-13-but-will-they-ever-update-it/
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The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
I understand they can't just release a phone and wait 2 years to release another one. But ( I guess I cut the ending short) they need to work on supporting what they have out now along side what they push out in the future. It's sad that the cell phone business has taken on Apples take of things. Make a new device, sells millions. A year later push out the same phone but with "enhancements" and newer things. Wait another year and do the same thing, and then drop support for the original after the 2nd one comes out..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Unfortunately as soon as Samsung announced a phone with 4.3" SuperAMOLED+ screen and a Tegra2-beating Orion SOC, everyone who were complaining about the Android updates will secretly be counting their savings so that they can get the latest and the greatest hardware. Such is the way of phone upgraditis.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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You spelled "whiny" wrong....
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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im a whiney little ***** haha......have you spent any time in the general section??? nothing but whining lately. what makes me any different?? because i go against the majority, which makes me an easy target??? take a nap dude. at least i make points and contribute to the debate, i dont think ive seen you make one yet. youjustkillpeople apparently
You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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since the beginning?? i started my *****-thread on monday.....this class-action/fck samsung/lack of froyo crap has been going on for weeks....pleasedontkillme, thats all i ask
back up your accusations dude
Samsung sucks yo.
EDIT: NVM..
Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.......AND SAMSUNG STILL HASNT UPDATED ME TO VERSION 65.32.9!!!! I HATE SAMSUNG. lets start a class action lawsuit!!! hell no, we wont go! hell no, we wont go!!!!!
apparently we are the neglected orphans of the smartphone world. its only us. its only samsung. wowowowow.....it is so much fun to sit here at work, and just wonder how miserable it must be to invest so much emotion into the OS of your phone (which you can get in a custom ROM anyway)
you knwo what would solve all of these problems?? TRADE BLAKE WHEELER
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
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Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
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dude ive been saying this for the past two days, and these weenies just flame me because i challenge their little cause......i think this post says it all:
-Originally Posted by TopShelf10-
So ignorant to the fast-growing industry of the cell phone. Name one combination of user-devicemodel-OSprovider-Manufacturer-NetworkProvider that is flawless. You roam around the internet you will find people complaining about these kinds of things eeeeverywhere. Lack of updates, lack of device support, lack of customer loyalty, unkept promises, hardware/software issues, blahblahblahhhhHHHhHHhHHHhhhHH
Nowadays, smartphones are outdated/obsolete within 6months of their release. Yes, indeed, its a monster that the manufacturers have created for themselves, and theres no way they can keep up with their competition while also keeping every single one of you crying babies happy. Yes, its an ugly industry, and it isnt fair. BUT ITS THE WAY IT IS.
*****, moan, *****, moan, *****, moan alllllll you want. File your class action lawsuits, spam their customer service lines, create facebook pages and twitter accounts, start petitions. do you think its going to change ANYTHING?? do you think its just THAT easy? you guys just sound so damn pathetic with all of your bellyaching.
Youre on a forum that is meant for modding your device, and making it better than the way it came out of the box, yet you are complaining that they wont do it for you. Then why are you guys even here??? No device is perfect. And when the day comes that they do release a perfect device, they will release an even more perfect device shortly after....thus making the prior one not perfect, and people *****ing for updates on their old ones to make it as good as the new one. Round-and-round we go.
Consumers will NEVER be happy, and you guys are proving that. Do some research before buying a damn phone next time. Dont buy it right when its released just because its the hottest thing, and having the phone that is on all the commercials gives you a sense of purpose. Maybe next time wait a couple months, come onto XDA, and see if the children are whining about the damn GPS. That would be a tell-tale warning, wouldnt you say? Then Samsung wont have your money, youll still have your upgrade to play with, and you wont be stuck with a device that didnt get sharted from god's ass. Problem solved.
To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
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To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
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if i didnt use all of my 5 "thanks" for the day, id thank you......um......thank you
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oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.....
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Lmfao. That **** cracks me up. Got Nos on that *****?
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Wasn't he supposed to make some kind of announcement on Monday according to his thread? Thought something was in the works and was hoping for more since the other thread got closed.
He did say that and I've been watching all day for this "announcement"
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good things come to those who wait.. just chill
Just hoping he didn't get banned from posting since the thread got closed by a Senior moderator. Thats all, I'm not impatient, but really excited to hear what he has to say.
All threads in all forums (not just Epic's) by John were locked by 'upper management' so to speak with XDA, so I'm guessing they didn't like the initial approach of things for whatever reason. I PM'ed him earlier today myself and asked about it for curiosity's sake and he said 'we' were in talks with XDA and he hoped to be able to post some details again soon in a new thread. Without being privy to the particulars of all that, my guess is that they'd prefer him be isolated to some higher level 'general' XDA forum and all interaction/feedback occur in one central thread than have a separate thread with every device of theirs. But that's purely a guess on my part.
Lol don't hold your breath
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All threads in all forums (not just Epic's) by John were locked by 'upper management' so to speak with XDA, so I'm guessing they didn't like the initial approach of things for whatever reason. I PM'ed him earlier today myself and asked about it for curiosity's sake and he said 'we' were in talks with XDA and he hoped to be able to post some details again soon in a new thread. Without being privy to the particulars of all that, my guess is that they'd prefer him be isolated to some higher level 'general' XDA forum and all interaction/feedback occur in one central thread than have a separate thread with every device of theirs. But that's purely a guess on my part.
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I dont want to believe this, but it makes me wonder.
His last activity was 6:49 today, so I doubt he is gonna make any post regarding what he promised.
He's got 4 hours until its no longer Monday. He is in Texas, so its around 8PM there now. I sure hope "politics" doesn't get in the way of him making his announcement or whatever.
Did anyone really think that this was going to turn into something great? I mean really? Samsungs track record for putting customers first has been proven time and time again, long before the galaxy line and long before cell phones. Not only that, look at XDA from the eyes and view of a large corporation such as Samsung... not just from the view of a dev, themer, consumer. If you've ever worked for a larger corporation/company who's main priority is profit and remaiming current and ahead of the competition you probably understand. One main priority is keeping products and control over those products within your reach, not within the reach of the consumer.
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Did anyone really think that this was going to turn into something great? I mean really? Samsungs track record for putting customers first has been proven time and time again, long before the galaxy line and long before cell phones. Not only that, look at XDA from the eyes and view of a large corporation such as Samsung... not just from the view of a dev, themer, consumer. If you've ever worked for a larger corporation/company who's main priority is profit and remaiming current and ahead of the competition you probably understand. One main priority is keeping products and control over those products within your reach, not within the reach of the consumer.
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No one expects anything good from Samsung. We can at least hold on to a little bit of hope that they may change though. From MWC:
"Samsung did make a promise about upgrades, though, with reps saying that the ongoing disaster involving upgrading the current Galaxy S line to Android 2.2 "will never happen again.""
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There is a small chance that they get it.
Oh how I wish for an announcement of any kind.
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Oh how I wish for an announcement of any kind.
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It will happen in the near future... sprint and samsungjohn will be updated by Q4 of 2011... they are working dilligently to bring 2.2 asap...blah...blah.......blah
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No one expects anything good from Samsung. We can at least hold on to a little bit of hope that they may change though. From MWC:
There is a small chance that they get it.
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Hope I get. Acting like Samsung John was the next coming of Christ is another thing (again, not just on the Epic forums). I was hopeful as well that Samsung would get it, but the Epic is soon to be old news, to me at least.
And yes, I'm sure samsung gets it. NOW they get it. I take that to mean they won't make the same mistakes on the SG2 line that they made on our phones.
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Guys, please keep it civil. I know it's frustrating but if you need to rant just chill for a bit.
All this bickering isn't helping anybody.
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Its another disappointment from Samsung and John we got used to that story. It seems like there is a big problem epic and froyo getting along so they want some help from xda dev cuz sprint can't get their things together and who knows the deal is already made.
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Samsung did make a promise about upgrades, though, with reps saying that the ongoing disaster involving upgrading the current Galaxy S line to Android 2.2 "will never happen again.
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Sounds like a sucker move to me. They say it wont happen again to suck you into buying a a new phone with the same support, only to drop support for the last line of devices. Not buying it Mr Samsung.
As soon as another competitor has a device that has even within reasonable specs at the same time of launch, they are gonna notice why their failure has come to a reality with their next device release.
Lol.
Yano, the cynic in me, as I'm sure is true with some other people, (and I hope its not lost on those people either) believes his lack of a post today is intentional. Remember, he is a social media "analyst". Looking for what type of reactions he would get for breaking such a small "promise" sounds like a pretty good barometer to gauge just how accurate the "mass feelings of resentment" for samsung for not getting us an update sooner is.
Do believe he's the real deal? Yes, and I'm confident he will post with his details later. But I'm pretty sure he's holding off just to watch us, and see how much we hold people to verbal commitments.
We're all lab rats.
But that's just the cynic in me talkin
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He is holding out for sexual favors.
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It will happen in the near future... sprint and samsungjohn will be updated by Q4 of 2011... they are working dilligently to bring 2.2 asap...blah...blah.......blah
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LOL! Beautiful.
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He is holding out for sexual favors.
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Ok.....ill take one for the team
Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers
FYI #2, I figured some of ya might be very interested to hear this!
Got me interested!
I'll believe it when I see it.
I call bull ****
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Wow. Don't believe that. Were still trying to get another froyo coming on the 21st.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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this
/10 char
I have trouble believing... but maybe someone in the Samsung front office actually got a clue...
Add in the "rumor" of a Samsung Nexus S 4G being announced by Sprint at CTIA....
Heck, would be nice to be ahead for a change....
But I'm not gonna hold my breath! ROFL!
More than one person here has said any official port of GB to the Epic would be far less work than Froyo has been for Sammy and Sprint. But I've always said that's being more hopeful than history warrants us to be. I'll be glad to just get a good Froyo on here without worries.
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While I have my doubts about Sprint/Samsung actually supporting our phones with OS updates past 2.2; the possibility of the Nexus coming to Sprint and the speed at which they have (supposedly) fixed bugs and moved to release another Froyo update to us has me optimistic this may have some truth to it.
Maybe samsung does care after all
Negativity in 3.....2......1............
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I call bull ****
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This belongs in the rumour thread...
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If this happens it could go a long way to make me rethink my never buying another samsung and going back to HTC. Samsung had great hardware. I love it, but I can't deal with this software delay again. If I see evidence I won't have to wait with samsung then I would be welling to give another shot. They need to prove it.
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I suspect much would be forgiven if Sammy actually accomplished this, it went relatively smoothly, defects were minimal, and the change persisted in the future.
I know I'd forgive and forget. As I posted in another thread awhile back, I'm not vindictive, and it makes no sense to hold a grudge against a company... I only punish myself, not them.
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I always have believed that if a couple of dev's on this site can pump out a stable rom in a short amount of time WHILE having other jobs and doing this in their free time, there is no reason for any company that PAYS people to do the same job to take as long as these companies do.
As neat as it sounds to have Sprint and Samsung push out the first 2.3 updates in the US, I will not be holding my breath what so ever. I'll stick with custom roms and just Odin back if I have any trouble.
With that said, it'll be nice to see Samsung release this, but then again I just don't care. I love my phone regardless
Jus be patient ppl...it will come when it comes....
IF it comes that is.
Ok... Flame me if you want to, but I believe it.
You: Omg! No! Sammy will nevurrrr do that!
Yes, they would. They dont want to lose customers and more importantly, if the nexus s 4g rumors are true, it will most likely have the same hardware as the epic because the epic 4g radios arent broken, so they dont need to fix them, and even if they are, samsumg used some of the horrible moment files for us. Anyways, with a nexus s 4g, samsung will have a 2.3.x device with epic hardware, and since they already have the drivers from it, the epic 4g will get 2.3 quick like how the i9000 has official 2.3, even if we dont get it quick, we (the xda community) can get the nexus s 4g software running on the epic really quick.
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The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
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Technically, this is a Gingerbread rumor. The other thread is for Froyo rumors.
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RSPC said:
The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
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Totally agree. Samsung is slow, sprint is just as slow if not worse. I started out with blackberry(bowing my head in shame) and they were horrible with them. Rim atleast understood that so they let out leaks on a fairly regular basis for the devs to play with. Now with android, first the moment and now with the epic, sprint is terrible again. And whats even worse with both of them, and where they can stop alot negativity from even starting is if they both just comminicate more with the users. I feel if we had more info, especially on promised updates, it is an easier pill to swallow then being left totally in the dark.
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Seriously. Everytime I open up my xda app all I see is Ginger this Ginger that..for every phone but ours. Who else is gets annoyed by this? I know it makes me cringe everytime!
Of course no blame goes to our devs who are fantastic. I applaud them for doing what they have done with Sammy's seemingly awful coding (good luck Kaos!) Wish they spent as much time and money on their software as they do on hardware! (which consequently is brilliant!)
End late night rant.
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I know it sucks! But by the sounds of it we might get Froyo tomorrow...Not getting my hopes up. I wish Samsung/VZW would update the fascinate from 2.1 to 2.3.3
I don't mind honestly... Just more of a reason for me to get an iPhone
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I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
Just my 2 cents.
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^^^^^^
good day.
Legato525 said:
I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
Just my 2 cents.
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Yes we were told we would get the froyo in a couple of months but now almost a year has passed.
It doesn't help the fact that international sgs just got the official gingerbread.
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Complain to Verizon and Samsung if you have an issue. Complaining here isn't going to get anything accomplished.
Nope, it sure isn't. Remember...I am always watching....
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I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
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I hate this kind of response.
When I buy a phone, upgrades and updates are part of my buying decision. They're probably part of yours too. If there's a phone with a 900mhz processor and locked to 2.1, and an identical phone but with an 800mhz processor that will be supported for years, I will choose the latter. Whether you like it or not, when the operating system updates this quickly, updates are a feature.
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I hate this kind of response.
When I buy a phone, upgrades and updates are part of my buying decision. They're probably part of yours too. If there's a phone with a 900mhz processor and locked to 2.1, and an identical phone but with an 800mhz processor that will be supported for years, I will choose the latter. Whether you like it or not, when the operating system updates this quickly, updates are a feature.
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I think the point here is that there never is any promise or guarantee of that support and I'm sorry but a sales person's word is no indication by any means. When we buy our phones we buy them as they are. To gripe about Samsung or Verizon's lack of promptness is ignorant and really annoying after seeing it so much. Normally you can trust the talented developers here to do better work anyway. The best approach is to wait patiently and support them in anyway you can whether it be logcats or donations.
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Legato525 said:
I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
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This is my first Android phone (I'd previously been on an old dumb phone made by Samsung, and it'd been reliable the for all the years), and the reps said that Froyo was coming 'soon', and Samsung had already began rolling Froyo out for the Samsung Galaxy S in Europe a few weeks before- I figured it'd be at most a few weeks, not realizing that 'Galaxy S' did not include any of the phones sold in the US!
I was also fooled about the quality of the GPS, when I was first testing it out, I always thought it locked instantly, because I was always around wifi (and Google's Location services have wifi routers geolocated down fairly well). And when I wasn't around WiFi, I saw the big blue circle and assumed that was the GPS just slowly loading, not Verizon's cellular triangulation doing all the work while the GPS was just robbing my battery and doing nothing with it.
At the time, I was hesitant to go with Android. I knew that the devices were generally fairly low quality, while getting slow updates... but the iPhone hadn't been announced on Verizon, and I wanted to do application development, which is massively cheaper to get into on Android than the iPhone ($25 vs $100 + a mac).
Next device will be from a reputable manufacturer, I've learned my lesson.
I know what phone I bought. Thanks for your concern though. Also our phone actually was guaranteed to be further upgraded quite sometime ago.
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Complain to Verizon and Samsung if you have an issue. Complaining here isn't going to get anything accomplished.
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I'm not complaining at all, in fact I don't see one word in the OP that looks like a complaint. Just asking a simple question if other people cry a bit inside when they see gingerbread in the "latest" category all the time.. excluding our phone.
As previously stated, for the sake of amazing devs I wish Samsung didn't code things like imbeciles.
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As previously stated, for the sake of amazing devs I wish Samsung didn't code things like imbeciles.
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I don't think there's anyone who would disagree with this. It's honestly disappointing how much more talented the devs seem to be when compared to Samsung's team. Good for the devs but you'd think a multi-billion dollar company could hire some better programmers.
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We are finally getting sources for froyo, and now you are already complaining that we don't have gingerbread???
Sheesh.
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Also our phone actually was guaranteed to be further upgraded quite sometime ago.
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Where is this "guarantee"?
And like many have said before, sales reps, service reps, and tech reps don't count. They are only trying to sell you a phone and a contract, or placate you with the current setup you already have.
Neither Samsung nor Verizon have officially said the Fascinate will be upgraded.
I'm not complaining about not having gingerbread. Like i said earlier its just annoying seeing it all over the place when opening up my XDA premium app.
(please don't respond to this with a childish comment saying "well don't use your XDA app then dohh") we arent 5 y.o. here
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Where is this "guarantee"?
And like many have said before, sales reps, service reps, and tech reps don't count. They are only trying to sell you a phone and a contract, or placate you with the current setup you already have.
Neither Samsung nor Verizon have officially said the Fascinate will be upgraded.
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simple google search proves my point. If you want a direct quote i guess i can search more, but for me this suffices.
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=16730&news=Google+Android+OS+2.2+Samsung+Galaxy+S+Epic+4G+Vibrant+Fascinate+Froyo
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I'm not complaining about not having gingerbread. Like i said earlier its just annoying seeing it all over the place when opening up my XDA premium app.
(please don't respond to this with a childish comment saying "well don't use your XDA app then dohh") we arent 5 y.o. here
simple google search proves my point. If you want a direct quote i guess i can search more, but for me this suffices.
http://www.brighthand.com/default.a...sung+Galaxy+S+Epic+4G+Vibrant+Fascinate+Froyo
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That article is almost a year old. Therefore it proves nothing other than hurting your argument rather than helping it.
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Electrodeath0 said:
I hate this kind of response.
When I buy a phone, upgrades and updates are part of my buying decision. They're probably part of yours too. If there's a phone with a 900mhz processor and locked to 2.1, and an identical phone but with an 800mhz processor that will be supported for years, I will choose the latter. Whether you like it or not, when the operating system updates this quickly, updates are a feature.
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I agree with you, but my point to the OP is, did anyone tell you the fascinate would get 2.3? I agree that they had a press release when the phone released about 2.2, but I have not heard anyone at samsung say anything about a fascinate getting 2.3. Would it be nice, ya. But does samsung have some moral resposibility to make non critical updates to the phone? No. I will never argue the froyo point, I was speaking in generalities.
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I think you accidentally a word
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That article is almost a year old. Therefore it proves nothing other than hurting your argument rather than helping it.
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How does this hurt my point? No matter how old an article is a promise is a promise. And I'm sorry I didn't spend the time to find an article with a more acceptable time table.
Also in regards to gingerbread, Sammy did say that the "entire" galaxy line would be updated to android 2.3
I can find that article as well if you really need it
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As you can see by the title I am getting more and more disgruntled by the day.
I assume the playbook made no mention of GB this f'ing week?
.....I'm not sure how I am supposed to respond to this. There is no question. Or any way to know whether or not Sprint will drop GB. Hmmm
darkierawr said:
.....I'm not sure how I am supposed to respond to this. There is no question. Or any way to know whether or not Sprint will drop GB. Hmmm
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If it is going to drop isn't it mentioned in the PB?
Therefore the question is - Was it in the PB tonight?
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If it is going to drop isn't it mentioned in the PB?
Therefore the question is - Was it in the PB tonight?
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If it was, your title is going to look more retarded than it does already, and its already full fledged.
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muyoso said:
If it was, your title is going to look more retarded than it does already, and its already full fledged.
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Speaking of retarded, look who it is. Pot, Kettle, Black.
Anyway - I qualified my title in the first line of my post. I am disgruntled and I am tired of the same old **** from Sprint/Samsung. No communication, late patches... Tired and disgruntled beyond belief. Hence the title.
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As you can see by the title I am getting more and more disgruntled by the day.
I assume the playbook made no mention of GB this f'ing week?
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The guy that looks at the playbook and shares with us looks at it on Wednesday and shares on Thursday. Calm your damn nerves til tomorrow when we're told what he found out.
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The Great Lonny from Charlie Brown!!!!
Milkman00 said:
Speaking of retarded, look who it is. Pot, Kettle, Black.
Anyway - I qualified my title in the first line of my post. I am disgruntled and I am tired of the same old **** from Sprint/Samsung. No communication, late patches... Tired and disgruntled beyond belief. Hence the title.
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Thanks for being real. I feel the same way bro. I feel your pain. But I am not surprised. Maybe some of the guys can ask Lonny Claus for his version of gingerbread. I am on the naughty list so I won't be getting gingerbread but others who are on the nice list can or maybe we can wait for the Lonny Bunny but our best chance is to ask the Great Lonny next Halloween for gingerbread by that time we will have an official gingerbread while everybody else will be on Jellybean.
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The guy that looks at the playbook and shares with us looks at it on Wednesday and shares on Thursday. Calm your damn nerves til tomorrow when we're told what he found out.
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Thanks Steve. I didn't know that was the case. I thought several users here had access to it.
I am so disgusted with SamSprint it is disgusting. The worst part yet is that I feel that I have no options. I like Samsung technology (specifically the large AMOLED screen in combination with the physical QWERTY), but with attitude that Samsung and Sprint have in releasing software updates (the attitude of I got your money already), it is REALLY discouraging. I wish we had other options because I would GTFO of this phone QUICK and never buy another Samsung phone again.
ALSO, all of this in combination with Samsung and Sprint's complete lack of communication on the matter. No status updates, confirmations, NOTHING. SOOOOOOOOOO tired of this business model, and nothing on the horizon that looks better.
The Galaxy S is an awesome phone no matter which variant you have. Yes we don't get the up dates as quick as we should, I put it on the carriers(refer to the I9000 section on samfirmware and you'll see what I mean). If they'd let some members of xda do their updates they'd be a lot stablier and out faster.
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jamice4u said:
Maybe some of the guys can ask Lonny Claus for his version of gingerbread.
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It is pretty clear from all of the posts that I have read, that getting GB from his phone is nothing short of a lost cause.
That said, we shouldn't need to do this kind of reverse engineering crap to get the software off his phone to get it to the people that want it.
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It is pretty clear from all of the posts that I have read, that getting GB from his phone is nothing short of a lost cause.
That said, we shouldn't need to do this kind of reverse engineering crap to get the software off his phone to get it to the people that want it.
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That is not going to happen.
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Care to take your childish, complaining somewhere else? Try any android blog, or the sprint forums. This thread, and all of these supportive attitudes are asinine.
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Care to take your childish, complaining somewhere else? Try any android blog, or the sprint forums. This thread, and all of these supportive attitudes are asinine.
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I am sorry that you think it is ok for companies (Sprint/Samsung) to treat THEIR CUSTOMERS this way. You know, the same customers who pay the salaries of the employees of their respective companies???
I am also sorry that you don't find this ridiculous delay, and this non-communication as acceptable, and as something that doesn't warrant complaining.
Instead, you chose to complain about my post. Good use of your time. It is YOUR passive attitude which is what allows these exact delays to occur. GOOD JOB!
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I guess it wasn't in the playbook this week?
Dude, for real? Grow up. We've gone this long without official GB, it's not like the phone is unusable without it.
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Dude, for real? Grow up. We've gone this long without official GB, it's not like the phone is unusable without it.
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And that makes it ok!!!!
I simply don't understand how so many people think it is OK for a consumer to be treated this way by the company they are supporting. This is NOT OK. Instead of being passive about the entire situation, why not be more vocal???
Funny thing is, if you pacifists would actually read what I post, you would see that I am not even necessarily asking for GB tomorrow. I would be thrilled just to get some communication from these companies. Stop keeping the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the dark. Let us know what is going on.
If more people spoke up, maybe these companies would change their tune a little, but nooooooooooo, people are ok with not getting updates in a timely fashion, with no communication from the companies that will ultimately provide said update.
Unless GB is gonna make my phone physically do my job for me I don't see it as that big of a deal. The devs have made this phone kick ass but in essence its just a phone that's fun to mod. I just don't get all the anger. Besides that I'm running eh17 with one of the new kernels from source and it is running great. (Although it still doesn't do my job for me)
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Your complaing in a development fourm isn't going to do anything for you if your upset that sprint/samsung does not give you timely updates to your phone. Try complaining in the sprint/samsung fourms, it might help your cause a litttle more.
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GituSum said:
Your complaing in a development fourm isn't going to do anything for you if your upset that sprint/samsung does not give you timely updates to your phone. Try complaining in the sprint/samsung fourms, it might help your cause a litttle more.
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I have personally written to both companies (actual paper and stamp). I am just one person. If more and more people did it (even just demanded communication), things would change.
rgregg504 said:
Unless GB is gonna make my phone physically do my job for me I don't see it as that big of a deal. The devs have made this phone kick ass but in essence its just a phone that's fun to mod. I just don't get all the anger. Besides that I'm running eh17 with one of the new kernels from source and it is running great. (Although it still doesn't do my job for me)
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I had to lol at the job still not being done for you. Now there's a real challenge for the devs.
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Milkman00 said:
And that makes it ok!!!!
I simply don't understand how so many people think it is OK for a consumer to be treated this way by the company they are supporting. This is NOT OK. Instead of being passive about the entire situation, why not be more vocal???
Funny thing is, if you pacifists would actually read what I post, you would see that I am not even necessarily asking for GB tomorrow. I would be thrilled just to get some communication from these companies. Stop keeping the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the dark. Let us know what is going on.
If more people spoke up, maybe these companies would change their tune a little, but nooooooooooo, people are ok with not getting updates in a timely fashion, with no communication from the companies that will ultimately provide said update.
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Spoke up to WHO? XDA Developers forum?
And no one is keeping anyone in the dark. We weren't guaranteed ANYTHING. We have been getting leaks (read: unofficial builds), and that's it. Nothing has been announced. We'll get it when we get it. Were we even TOLD we were getting Gingerbread by both Sprint and Samsung? I don't think so. We are all speculating release dates, 2.3.x builds, playbook leaks, etc.