Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers
FYI #2, I figured some of ya might be very interested to hear this!
Got me interested!
I'll believe it when I see it.
I call bull ****
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Wow. Don't believe that. Were still trying to get another froyo coming on the 21st.
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Willieumm said:
I'll believe it when I see it.
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this
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I have trouble believing... but maybe someone in the Samsung front office actually got a clue...
Add in the "rumor" of a Samsung Nexus S 4G being announced by Sprint at CTIA....
Heck, would be nice to be ahead for a change....
But I'm not gonna hold my breath! ROFL!
More than one person here has said any official port of GB to the Epic would be far less work than Froyo has been for Sammy and Sprint. But I've always said that's being more hopeful than history warrants us to be. I'll be glad to just get a good Froyo on here without worries.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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While I have my doubts about Sprint/Samsung actually supporting our phones with OS updates past 2.2; the possibility of the Nexus coming to Sprint and the speed at which they have (supposedly) fixed bugs and moved to release another Froyo update to us has me optimistic this may have some truth to it.
Maybe samsung does care after all
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FoxRacR17 said:
I call bull ****
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This belongs in the rumour thread...
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If this happens it could go a long way to make me rethink my never buying another samsung and going back to HTC. Samsung had great hardware. I love it, but I can't deal with this software delay again. If I see evidence I won't have to wait with samsung then I would be welling to give another shot. They need to prove it.
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I suspect much would be forgiven if Sammy actually accomplished this, it went relatively smoothly, defects were minimal, and the change persisted in the future.
I know I'd forgive and forget. As I posted in another thread awhile back, I'm not vindictive, and it makes no sense to hold a grudge against a company... I only punish myself, not them.
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I always have believed that if a couple of dev's on this site can pump out a stable rom in a short amount of time WHILE having other jobs and doing this in their free time, there is no reason for any company that PAYS people to do the same job to take as long as these companies do.
As neat as it sounds to have Sprint and Samsung push out the first 2.3 updates in the US, I will not be holding my breath what so ever. I'll stick with custom roms and just Odin back if I have any trouble.
With that said, it'll be nice to see Samsung release this, but then again I just don't care. I love my phone regardless
Jus be patient ppl...it will come when it comes....
IF it comes that is.
Ok... Flame me if you want to, but I believe it.
You: Omg! No! Sammy will nevurrrr do that!
Yes, they would. They dont want to lose customers and more importantly, if the nexus s 4g rumors are true, it will most likely have the same hardware as the epic because the epic 4g radios arent broken, so they dont need to fix them, and even if they are, samsumg used some of the horrible moment files for us. Anyways, with a nexus s 4g, samsung will have a 2.3.x device with epic hardware, and since they already have the drivers from it, the epic 4g will get 2.3 quick like how the i9000 has official 2.3, even if we dont get it quick, we (the xda community) can get the nexus s 4g software running on the epic really quick.
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The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
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Technically, this is a Gingerbread rumor. The other thread is for Froyo rumors.
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RSPC said:
The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
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Totally agree. Samsung is slow, sprint is just as slow if not worse. I started out with blackberry(bowing my head in shame) and they were horrible with them. Rim atleast understood that so they let out leaks on a fairly regular basis for the devs to play with. Now with android, first the moment and now with the epic, sprint is terrible again. And whats even worse with both of them, and where they can stop alot negativity from even starting is if they both just comminicate more with the users. I feel if we had more info, especially on promised updates, it is an easier pill to swallow then being left totally in the dark.
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Related
http://engadget.com/2010/10/21/samsung-comes-clean-with-galaxy-s-froyo-upgrade-dates-all-carri/
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Then how long until sprint releases it? That's what I would like to know. Lol
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As ususal, Engadget gets it wrong. They can't even read a press release, and never bothered to pick up the phone and call Samsung. This announcement was datelined from London and about the UK, which is clear from its context.
See also this thread in Vibrant forum.
p.s. As recently as a few minutes ago, Samsung's Galaxy S support site for the U.S. on Twitter was saying there is not ETA for Froyo on this side of the pond at all.
Deployment for the Epic is even more complicated than the rollout for the GSM-based variants in the U.S. If the Epic gets Froyo in November, I will be most pleasantly surprised.
one way or another it seems like typical samsung taking forever to release an update
I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!
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I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!
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Typical sprint. Its like a perfect storm of two companies that look at support only as an expense, not as retaining future customers.
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I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!
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The Samsung Twitter sites for the United States, debunking the the speculation based on the U.K. news, reiterate what Samsung has said all along: Froyo will be deployed by U.S. carriers sometime this year:
RT @SamsungMobileUS Re: Froyo release in November statement came from SamsungUK. Froyo for US SGS will be avail this year http://ow.ly/2Xce8
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Anyone who expected something sooner has been misinformed, or just thinking wishfully. Many examples of both errors have populated comments in the various forums for weeks or months.
I hope they put the Sprint ID or whatever it is on it so I can do away with TW all together. Looked at the Samsung Transform review and was jealous that there was no TW.
I was hoping the delay was due to Sprint ID
In other words.....maybe on the next phone.
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I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!
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I'm inclined to believe this since Rogers in Canada is saying their version of the Captivate will get Froyo in 2011. If Froyo was ready in 2010, everywhere else in the world, why would Rogers tell their customers to expect it in 2011?
Samsung is a joke when it comes to software updates...almost on par with htc gimping allof there products
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Like I said in previous threads, sprint will recieve it last, because of 4g kernel modifications.
Honestly id rather them skip froyo and work on gingerbread.
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mykenyc said:
Honestly id rather them skip froyo and work on gingerbread.
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What? You want to wait until 2012 to get a new OS update?
What does 2.2 offer that you can't have on 2.1? I just don't see what the big deal is anyways. Is everyone that unsatisfied with their phone that they are getting bent out of shape about 2.2? This is Sprint and Samsung we are talking about right? I fully expect it to be here in January or February. In the mean time, I will enjoy my Epic with 2.1 Which is still better than the Evo on 2.2, imho.
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What does 2.2 offer that you can't have on 2.1? I just don't see what the big deal is anyways. Is everyone that unsatisfied with their phone that they are getting bent out of shape about 2.2? This is Sprint and Samsung we are talking about right? I fully expect it to be here in January or February. In the mean time, I will enjoy my Epic with 2.1 Which is still better than the Evo on 2.2, imho.
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Its faster, and "the latest and greatest" has support for full flash, not just flash lite...theres a few others.
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Its faster, and "the latest and greatest" has support for full flash, not just flash lite...theres a few others.
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I heard flash sucked with 2.2 but that's just me. Granted it's nice to have and it's something the I-suck doesn't have so that's always a plus.
Phone is plenty fast for me but I don't do anything extensive on it. Even when it drops I'll probably still wait a while to see if it's even worth it. Reading the Evo forums, it sounded like it was more trouble than it was worth and broke more things than fixed.
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I heard flash sucked with 2.2 but that's just me. Granted it's nice to have and it's something the I-suck doesn't have so that's always a plus.
Phone is plenty fast for me but I don't do anything extensive on it. Even when it drops I'll probably still wait a while to see if it's even worth it. Reading the Evo forums, it sounded like it was more trouble than it was worth and broke more things than fixed.
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THANK YOU!
rquinn19 said:
I hope they put the Sprint ID or whatever it is on it so I can do away with TW all together. Looked at the Samsung Transform review and was jealous that there was no TW.
I was hoping the delay was due to Sprint ID
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You want to exchange one piece of bloat for another piece?
Why not just ship it with stock Android (and more than 3 screens) and then allow us to customize our devices as we see fit?
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I heard flash sucked with 2.2 but that's just me. Granted it's nice to have and it's something the I-suck doesn't have so that's always a plus.
Phone is plenty fast for me but I don't do anything extensive on it. Even when it drops I'll probably still wait a while to see if it's even worth it. Reading the Evo forums, it sounded like it was more trouble than it was worth and broke more things than fixed.
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Thats because its on a Evo lol
Yeah I went to the Sprint store when I went and bought my case for my Epic and messed around with an Evo..be it a display, and they had a screen protector on it, the screened looked REALLY grainy, and it was very very slow. I'm guessing it hadn't been restarted in awhile and had every app open on it running in the background. I checked it and sure enough it was running on 2.2.
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/android/4229-android-gingerbread-samsung-epic-captivate-fascinate-vibrant
If this is true, and followed through it will restore my faith in Samsung.
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Just a rumor.... but makes sense.
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On second thought. Why would samsung OTA us to 2.3, by doing so that would make the Nexus S just another Vibrant over at T-Mobile.
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On second thought. Why would samsung OTA us to 2.3, by doing so that would make the Nexus S just another Vibrant over at T-Mobile.
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My understanding is that the Nexus S (like the Nexus One) is a stripped down, super-phone, demonstration of new technology and in this case the most notable difference would be the form factor and the NFC. I think Sammy would face more backlash from consumers for ignoring hardware customers already paid for so as to make a new product with near-identical hardware better.
I would assume to have a 2.3 powerhouse phone on all major carriers for bragging and sales purposes. Would make a ton of sense.
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styckx said:
I would assume to have a 2.3 powerhouse phone on all major carriers for bragging and sales purposes. Would make a ton of sense.
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That *would* make sense. Also, it would rock.
Is the person who posted that credible?
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Is the person who posted that credible?
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From the article:
While only a rumor, he's usually spot on and the tweet does seem very plausible so we wouldn't be surprised if Samsung Galaxy S phones (Captivate, Fascinate, Epic 4G and Vibrant) will beat HTC and Motorola devices to Android 2.3.
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Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
I honestly though don't care about gingerbread all that much. I'm planning to have this phone for awhile. It does everything I need with ease. Big difference from when I had the Moment and from day 1 felt the need to smash it into a wall because of how slow and laggy it was. I would hope samsung realizes this isn't a phone to cut ties with because it defintely has staying power even after it's superceded by something faster on paper but probably only marginably faster in real world use.
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So if you're wondering why Samsung hasn't bothered upgrading most of its smartphons to Android 2.2 Froyo yet then this could be the reason. Let's see if Samsung leapfrogs to Android Gingerbread before the holidays or not.
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if we skip straight to 2.3 I will start rescuing kittens!!!!
With how good samsung did with sales from all the galaxy s phones, i wouldnt be surprised that they would do this.. that would be so sweet to have gingerbread on epic and since its on the nexus s with samehardware screen and stats, makes sense they could upgrade all variants epic will definitly be the top of the line if it got gingerbread, but also i agree with the poster above about caring less as long as i have a good running phone with 2.2 ill be set til the dual core processors come out and another top of the line phone comes out for sprint next year or 2 years,
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From the article:
Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
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I agree, its better to wait and see. I would rather not get myself excited only t be disappointed in the end. The best i could see out of this is samsung releasing gingerbread much earlier then any of us would expect. I don't know...lets just see.
kenvan19 said:
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Personally, I'd never heard of him but I've requested to follow him on twitter. In the end we'll just have to wait and see but it would be nice. If this update were coming soon I think there would be some RCs floating around but seeing as we have Froyo ones and a 'near-official' OTA update that went to .4 phones its hard to know if we'll skip 2.2 and go right to 2.3. I want this to happen but the evidence I have right now would seem to go against this.
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I would have to agree with you. It would be nice, and it would increase following among sammy, but will it be released soon? At this point, possibly but not probably.
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I agree, its better to wait and see. I would rather not get myself excited only t be disappointed in the end. The best i could see out of this is samsung releasing gingerbread much earlier then any of us would expect. I don't know...lets just see.
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Indeed. I spent months reading about how my Mytouch was getting Eclair only to be let down every time. I will say that if they do leapfrog 2.2 and get my device up-to-android-date then when I buy my fiancee's new phone in about a month she'll be getting a Sammy device. Otherwise, I'm not going to get her a phone that's always out-of-date.
Now if we dont receive an update b4 january first for anything this might prove that we will have gingerbread later and prove that they skipped froyo.
I mean if they dont give us froyo b4 the end of the year like they promised, they could be working on gingerbread we shall see by the end of this month.
The only thing I am not looking forward to is the possible return of these forums turning into unreadable garbage of people trolling, fighting and starting multiple threads about when or why Gingerbread is/isn't on the epic.
This thread has been nice though.
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styckx said:
The only thing I am not looking forward to is the possible return of these forums turning into unreadable garbage of people trolling, fighting and starting multiple threads about when or why Gingerbread is/isn't on the epic.
This thread has been nice though.
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i completly agree with you hopefully it doesnt get posted all over the place including the develpment thread, this was a nice find and read tho thanks OP!
davidrules7778 said:
Now if we dont receive an update b4 january first for anything this might prove that we will have gingerbread later and prove that they skipped froyo.
I mean if they dont give us froyo b4 the end of the year like they promised, they could be working on gingerbread we shall see by the end of this month.
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What you are saying makes a lot of sense. Good post.
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this was a nice find and read tho thanks OP!
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;-) np .... Hopefully we could keep most gingerbread talk here. After all, anything we hear to this point are only to be considered rumors.
Look at this everyone. Does this mean we are close to our official froyo?
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376045,00.asp
Edit: T-mobile even gives a reason why it took so long.
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Unlikely...
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Look at this everyone. Does this mean we are close to our official froyo?
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376045,00.asp
Edit: T-mobile even gives a reason why it took so long.
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I still think it won't be until February/March. Kinda ironic that t-mo is the first to release the update since they were the ones that came under fire for allegedly holding up 2.2 until the fascinate 4G came out.. hmmm..
You never know. Sprint likes to be "the first" at things. Maybe this will put pressure on them to roll out froyo sooner then later as well.
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Believe it when I see it.
I also saw a unicorn today...
Sprint should change their name to Snorlax... it would be more fitting....
Epic is as Epic does
I can promise you that we won't get 2.2 before the Captivate. Past that, I have no idea. It seems the problem is really getting the CDMA differences worked out. That said, I'd hate to be a Continuum user right now.
Probably only because of the backlash about Samsung holding it in order to sell more Vibrant 4Gs.
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Definitly the outside pressure caused this
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from what i seen we should have froyo within a week..
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Definitly the outside pressure caused this
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What is the outside pressure on Sprint?
jbadboy2007 said:
from what i seen we should have froyo within a week..
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From what I've seen, I'm not going to hold my breath. No offense, of course.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/20/samsung-vibrant-will-get-froyo-tomorrow-says-t-mobile-cmo/
We're not totally sure, but we imagine that T-Mobile's rivals aren't sitting still -- we'll probably hear some fascinating, captivating and totally epic news about Froyo any minute now.
We are getting froyo very soon.
Vibrant scheduled for tommorow, and Mesmerize(U.S. cellular) is scheduled for early february. So who knows when e get it.
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with this source code ppl wont need carriers to update we can just get it from here xda dev work 9999999999999999999999 billlion times faster then any carriers
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What is the outside pressure on Sprint?
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Anyone here file a class action? I actually believe that Brodman guy when he said that they just weren't aware that timely updates are very important to users. Google has introduced a new paradigm with their frequent OS updates, and I don't think the carriers have really considered updates a top priority. One thing is for certain, flood their Facebook pages and Twitter accts. I'm pretty certain that anytime anything regarding any topic is posted anywhere regarding T-Mo, a flood of Vibrant users respond with calls for the Froyo update.
And I guess the best thing is if you can get something written up in one of the big tech media sites. The carrier execs may not be reading XDA, but they sure start running for the mikes when they get a black eye in Engadget or TechCrunch.
Sprint has tweeted that the Epic will get Froyo ASAP, but this isn't new . I'm still going to hope that T-mobile will pressure Sprint to roll out Froyo.
http://mobile.twitter.com/sprint
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ASAP huh? That could be tomorrow or a year from now depending on whenever they feel it's "possible".
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If it really is true, based on what the Tmo CMO stated, that the hold up is caused by the carriers needing to add whatever software they think we need. Well, that's just ridiculous. They should just stop messing with apps not everyone wants on their phones and just release Froyo or whatever is in the pipelines. Perhaps we should start a campaign to get manufacturers and carriers to move closer putting stock android on their phones. Just a thought.
Seriously. Everytime I open up my xda app all I see is Ginger this Ginger that..for every phone but ours. Who else is gets annoyed by this? I know it makes me cringe everytime!
Of course no blame goes to our devs who are fantastic. I applaud them for doing what they have done with Sammy's seemingly awful coding (good luck Kaos!) Wish they spent as much time and money on their software as they do on hardware! (which consequently is brilliant!)
End late night rant.
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I know it sucks! But by the sounds of it we might get Froyo tomorrow...Not getting my hopes up. I wish Samsung/VZW would update the fascinate from 2.1 to 2.3.3
I don't mind honestly... Just more of a reason for me to get an iPhone
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I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
Just my 2 cents.
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good day.
Legato525 said:
I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
Just my 2 cents.
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Yes we were told we would get the froyo in a couple of months but now almost a year has passed.
It doesn't help the fact that international sgs just got the official gingerbread.
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Complain to Verizon and Samsung if you have an issue. Complaining here isn't going to get anything accomplished.
Nope, it sure isn't. Remember...I am always watching....
Legato525 said:
I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
Just my 2 cents.
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I hate this kind of response.
When I buy a phone, upgrades and updates are part of my buying decision. They're probably part of yours too. If there's a phone with a 900mhz processor and locked to 2.1, and an identical phone but with an 800mhz processor that will be supported for years, I will choose the latter. Whether you like it or not, when the operating system updates this quickly, updates are a feature.
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I hate this kind of response.
When I buy a phone, upgrades and updates are part of my buying decision. They're probably part of yours too. If there's a phone with a 900mhz processor and locked to 2.1, and an identical phone but with an 800mhz processor that will be supported for years, I will choose the latter. Whether you like it or not, when the operating system updates this quickly, updates are a feature.
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I think the point here is that there never is any promise or guarantee of that support and I'm sorry but a sales person's word is no indication by any means. When we buy our phones we buy them as they are. To gripe about Samsung or Verizon's lack of promptness is ignorant and really annoying after seeing it so much. Normally you can trust the talented developers here to do better work anyway. The best approach is to wait patiently and support them in anyway you can whether it be logcats or donations.
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Legato525 said:
I have to ask honestly and flame if you must, when you buy a phone with eclair, should you not assume you will never get anything else? Were you given a contract by verizon or samsung stating if you bought a specific phone, it was guaranteed to be further upgraded?
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This is my first Android phone (I'd previously been on an old dumb phone made by Samsung, and it'd been reliable the for all the years), and the reps said that Froyo was coming 'soon', and Samsung had already began rolling Froyo out for the Samsung Galaxy S in Europe a few weeks before- I figured it'd be at most a few weeks, not realizing that 'Galaxy S' did not include any of the phones sold in the US!
I was also fooled about the quality of the GPS, when I was first testing it out, I always thought it locked instantly, because I was always around wifi (and Google's Location services have wifi routers geolocated down fairly well). And when I wasn't around WiFi, I saw the big blue circle and assumed that was the GPS just slowly loading, not Verizon's cellular triangulation doing all the work while the GPS was just robbing my battery and doing nothing with it.
At the time, I was hesitant to go with Android. I knew that the devices were generally fairly low quality, while getting slow updates... but the iPhone hadn't been announced on Verizon, and I wanted to do application development, which is massively cheaper to get into on Android than the iPhone ($25 vs $100 + a mac).
Next device will be from a reputable manufacturer, I've learned my lesson.
I know what phone I bought. Thanks for your concern though. Also our phone actually was guaranteed to be further upgraded quite sometime ago.
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Complain to Verizon and Samsung if you have an issue. Complaining here isn't going to get anything accomplished.
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I'm not complaining at all, in fact I don't see one word in the OP that looks like a complaint. Just asking a simple question if other people cry a bit inside when they see gingerbread in the "latest" category all the time.. excluding our phone.
As previously stated, for the sake of amazing devs I wish Samsung didn't code things like imbeciles.
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As previously stated, for the sake of amazing devs I wish Samsung didn't code things like imbeciles.
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I don't think there's anyone who would disagree with this. It's honestly disappointing how much more talented the devs seem to be when compared to Samsung's team. Good for the devs but you'd think a multi-billion dollar company could hire some better programmers.
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We are finally getting sources for froyo, and now you are already complaining that we don't have gingerbread???
Sheesh.
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Also our phone actually was guaranteed to be further upgraded quite sometime ago.
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Where is this "guarantee"?
And like many have said before, sales reps, service reps, and tech reps don't count. They are only trying to sell you a phone and a contract, or placate you with the current setup you already have.
Neither Samsung nor Verizon have officially said the Fascinate will be upgraded.
I'm not complaining about not having gingerbread. Like i said earlier its just annoying seeing it all over the place when opening up my XDA premium app.
(please don't respond to this with a childish comment saying "well don't use your XDA app then dohh") we arent 5 y.o. here
Kevin Gossett said:
Where is this "guarantee"?
And like many have said before, sales reps, service reps, and tech reps don't count. They are only trying to sell you a phone and a contract, or placate you with the current setup you already have.
Neither Samsung nor Verizon have officially said the Fascinate will be upgraded.
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simple google search proves my point. If you want a direct quote i guess i can search more, but for me this suffices.
http://www.brighthand.com/default.asp?newsID=16730&news=Google+Android+OS+2.2+Samsung+Galaxy+S+Epic+4G+Vibrant+Fascinate+Froyo
zskate311 said:
I'm not complaining about not having gingerbread. Like i said earlier its just annoying seeing it all over the place when opening up my XDA premium app.
(please don't respond to this with a childish comment saying "well don't use your XDA app then dohh") we arent 5 y.o. here
simple google search proves my point. If you want a direct quote i guess i can search more, but for me this suffices.
http://www.brighthand.com/default.a...sung+Galaxy+S+Epic+4G+Vibrant+Fascinate+Froyo
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That article is almost a year old. Therefore it proves nothing other than hurting your argument rather than helping it.
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Electrodeath0 said:
I hate this kind of response.
When I buy a phone, upgrades and updates are part of my buying decision. They're probably part of yours too. If there's a phone with a 900mhz processor and locked to 2.1, and an identical phone but with an 800mhz processor that will be supported for years, I will choose the latter. Whether you like it or not, when the operating system updates this quickly, updates are a feature.
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I agree with you, but my point to the OP is, did anyone tell you the fascinate would get 2.3? I agree that they had a press release when the phone released about 2.2, but I have not heard anyone at samsung say anything about a fascinate getting 2.3. Would it be nice, ya. But does samsung have some moral resposibility to make non critical updates to the phone? No. I will never argue the froyo point, I was speaking in generalities.
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I think you accidentally a word
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times_infinity said:
That article is almost a year old. Therefore it proves nothing other than hurting your argument rather than helping it.
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How does this hurt my point? No matter how old an article is a promise is a promise. And I'm sorry I didn't spend the time to find an article with a more acceptable time table.
Also in regards to gingerbread, Sammy did say that the "entire" galaxy line would be updated to android 2.3
I can find that article as well if you really need it
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Exhibit 4G comes with 2.3. Vibrant peeps, time to start up #NeverAgain
Yup the time has come once again. Let the war begin. I mean the nagging to Samsung.
Saw krylon360's post on twitter about the exhibit and I was in aww because that phone is a low end phone with gingerbread. Well not to low end.
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Yup. We need to do act now, we're loosing a lot of vibrant peeps here.
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Samsung screws us over and over, and yet people still want to buy the SGSII. Blows my mind. Or maybe T-mobile is the real issue.
Either way I'm in... lets get #neveragain going with samsung and t-mobile.
Someone post the twitter/facebook accounts for samsung and tmo please
thanks!
SamsungVibrant said:
Samsung screws us over and over, and yet people still want to buy the SGSII. Blows my mind. Or maybe T-mobile is the real issue.
Either way I'm in... lets get #neveragain going with samsung and t-mobile.
Someone post the twitter/facebook accounts for samsung and tmo please
thanks!
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Samsung is fine, all US carriers suck. I'm in for the movement
boo.
Guess my PR wife was right that I needed to make "#NeverAgain" mine before I lost it.
Whats "#NeverAgain" ?
s15274n said:
boo.
Guess my PR wife was right that I needed to make "#NeverAgain" mine before I lost it.
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Yeah, she was definitely right.
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I never really stopped #NeverAgain-ing in the first place. We all hope they learned from their mistakes, but were the ones who haven't learned. Sensation here I come!
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I fail to see how they are screwing us over. They release a new phone with the latest Android, as they should. They are updating the Galaxy S line to 2.3, including the Vibrant. Its already an official release in Europe. Some of you think its late, but how many old handsets have been updated to official 2.3 across all brands? Galaxy S/Vibrant will be one of the few.
So can someone explain to me how we are getting shafted? Did Samsung announce that we are not gonna get Gingerbread?
^ you are being to logical
The original #NeverAgain that I got going was under much different circumstances, I agree. It is too soon. Then again, I think manufacturers/providers/Google need to know the demand of the consumer.
Trying to sell new phones (by slow updates), trying to save money (no OTA updates), etc... those are wrong reasons. I hate custom UI's for the reason they are used as excuses for slow/no delays too.
Vibrant owners whine too much. It is a phone, not a lifestyle.
TheSneakerWhore said:
Vibrant owners whine too much. It is a phone, not a lifestyle.
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+1
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Only 4% of android phones had Gingerbread as of a month ago.
Give it some time, it will come. Froyo was deserved, but Gingerbread is a gift.
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Vibrant owners whine too much. It is a phone, not a lifestyle.
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no. I just dont appreciate samsung going for the money making route over customer satisfaction. Bush league. Bush
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I don't understand why it's necessary to make this an issue to boycott anyone. Everyone should know fragmentation has been one of the biggest issues on android.
If the argument you're making is valid Samsung should charge more for their phones. Otherwise you should reevaluate your valuation of the phone when you purchase it.
If price you paid = $(vibrant2.2)
And
$(vibrant2.2) < $(vibrant2.2) + $(vibrant2.3 in the future)
Then we all got what we paid for, if not then you should reconsider what you expect from android.
ipetloudog said:
no. I just dont appreciate samsung going for the money making route over customer satisfaction. Bush league. Bush
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But how are they? They've updated us to Froyo like we asked and now the whole Galaxy S line will be updated to Gingerbread. Please show me all the other OEMs devices that have actually seen 2 major updates. Hardly any.
If you people would take a look around you'd not only see that as of late Samsung has been getting better, but almost every other OEM is treating their customers worse.
I can't wait for 2.3 either, but this isn't exactly NeverAgain material... Put down the pitchforks and wipe your tears now please.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't never again mean never again?
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pvspencer22 said:
I don't understand why it's necessary to make this an issue to boycott anyone. Everyone should know fragmentation has been one of the biggest issues on android.
If the argument you're making is valid Samsung should charge more for their phones. Otherwise you should reevaluate your valuation of the phone when you purchase it.
If price you paid = $(vibrant2.2)
And
$(vibrant2.2) < $(vibrant2.2) + $(vibrant2.3 in the future)
Then we all got what we paid for, if not then you should reconsider what you expect from android.
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So how does HTC and motorola able to charge the same as samsung yet provide all the needed updates? The Evo is already getting or gotten 2.3, most of the droids are getting it as well....doesnt sound like a problem with price like you put it, more like a problem with manufacturer, thats why my next handset will be from someone else.
My old crappy MyTouch 3g had froyo months before my Vibrant (which was sold with the promise of froyo in a couple of months or so) every did. BTW the MyTouch did not have froyo promised, hell not even eclair was promised
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20037371-251.html
Now what gets me is that the Nexus S (90% the same phone as the vibrant) has had gingerbread since 2010, we are now getting froyo
kponti said:
So how does HTC and motorola able to charge the same as samsung yet provide all the needed updates? The Evo is already getting or gotten 2.3, most of the droids are getting it as well....doesnt sound like a problem with price like you put it, more like a problem with manufacturer, thats why my next handset will be from someone else.
My old crappy MyTouch 3g had froyo months before my Vibrant (which was sold with the promise of froyo in a couple of months or so) every did. BTW the MyTouch did not have froyo promised, hell not even eclair was promised
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-20037371-251.html
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Might be because of the fact that Motorola Droid's are limited to only Verizon and the Evo's are only on Sprint? Samsung has different versions of the Galaxy S across all the carriers.