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Hi, sorry if this is a double post. I did look around but could not find much info.
I'm interested to know how well the new 16GB MicroSD cards work on the Xperia. Anyone using one of these? My main concern is that they all seem to only be class 2 atm. Is this too slow to run apps and my videos stored on it etc?
Should I wait till a class 4 16GB card comes out?
Thanks
Edit: I also noticed that SanDisk has a “Mobile Ultra” memory card range. Only up to 8GB though. Anyone using one of these? Is there a big difference in speeds?
i don't think it matters in a phone.
I ordered the eact same Mobile Ultra card today. Should be here saturday, so I will tell when I get it. But assuming it's Class 6 card, it should be fast. I wouldn't go with Class 2, since it's slow. But as Jabe says, it might not matter on the phone.
So as at now no one's using a 16GB yet?
Give me a week or 2. I'm planning on ordering the Sandisk one.
Sandisk Mobile Ultra is good, and it's what I am using for X1. Since it's class 6, the read/write speed is about 20/16 mb/s, which is much faster than class 2. If you wanna watch video storaged in card, this one is your first choice.
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Sandisk Mobile Ultra is good, and it's what I am using for X1. Since it's class 6, the read/write speed is about 20/16 mb/s, which is much faster than class 2. If you wanna watch video storaged in card, this one is your first choice.
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Note that the speed in the end is depending on the host itself. If the host is slow, even if you use class 6 memory card, it's not going to make any difference. Personally I believe the phone itself would be the bottleneck and not the memory card.
I know it's not totally relevant but just for reference, take a look at the link below. As you can see the speed of class 2 and 6 are pretty identical as it's limited by the host. This is even with a dedicated memory card reader. Compare the 2nd and 4th entries from the bottom.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/reader_report_multi_page.asp?cid=6007-9438
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Note that the speed in the end is depending on the host itself. If the host is slow, even if you use class 6 memory card, it's not going to make any difference. Personally I believe the phone itself would be the bottleneck and not the memory card.
I know it's not totally relevant but just for reference, take a look at the link below. As you can see the speed of class 2 and 6 are pretty identical as it's limited by the host. This is even with a dedicated memory card reader. Compare the 2nd and 4th entries from the bottom.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/reader_report_multi_page.asp?cid=6007-9438
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If that's the case, what's the optimal speed supported by X1?
So anyone able to compare the 2 classes
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So as at now no one's using a 16GB yet?
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I'm using a 16GB Class 2 at the moment. No probs with apps or music. But I have no videos on the card...
with normal sd cards the pdas were mostly not able to transfer as fast as the sd card supported
as the sd interface in onchip and not that fast
would like to see some tests if the same hold true with newer pda's and class X microSD cards
anyone able to follow this up yet?
I'm using a Sandisk 8gb Class 4 HC. No problems with speed or data read/write (on the phone itself).
Using the phone as a disk drive though (not activesync) is noticeably slower than using a USB adapter, *suggesting* the phone itself is the bottleneck?
I'm using a SanDisk 8GB Class II Card and I had no problems with photos, videos or music so far.
Don't think a Class 4 or 6 is worth the price in a mobile phone.
I got my 16GB Microsdhc today. And everything works. Sad thing is it only shows 15GB.
I find no difference in speed between my 8G class 6 and 16G class 2 (both from Sandisk)
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I got my 16GB Microsdhc today. And everything works. Sad thing is it only shows 15GB.
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it's 15G probably because of the way how "G" is being calculated. 16,000,000,000 = 16,000,000,000/(1024*1024*1024) = 14.9GB
im using a 8g class 4 card, music, apps and vids work great.
just a quick question, the x1 has a sd card limit of 32g, when a larger card comes out like the 128gb card that sandisk has said will come out, could windows mobile have a update so that it can read it or is limited to the reader hardware inside the x1
I have 2 cards: Sandisk 16GB Class 2 and Kingston 8GB class 4.
I use Sandisk in Xperia, and the speed is more than sufficient. It reaches 12-15 MB/s writing on USB adapter. Reading - it's no problem reaching even more. So it's ok, speed wise.
I don't think you would need more speed in Xperia )
There's no HD video recording option in there )
one can use pocket mechanics to benchmark the sdcard speed
if the results are lower i would suspect it show the bottleneck speed
of the sd interface of the qualcomm cpu in x1
I have a 16gb micro sdhc and some .avi videos lag (highish quality). Specifically, top gear season 12 episodes from finalgear.com. it might be the divx client though, Im using the WM 6 Pro version available on the divx website.
I am thinking about purchasing a 32Gb microSD for use with my galaxy S.
My concern is that, is this too large? Are there any bad side effect like it being too slow to display picture/start up scann/run applications?
Which brand? That's probably more important for the speed than class (a class 2 Sandisk is often as fast or faster than a class 6 from a lesser brand).
The capacity of the card shouldn't affect the speed during most situations. However the phone does scan for media each time it is turned on or after disconnecting from USB connection (Kies or mass storage), the amount of time this takes depends on:
-the amount of media stored on the card and
-(probably) the read speed of the card.
Note that class rating is minimum write speed - so it's not a great indicator of real-life performance.
Also note that some too-cheap-to-be-true cards are actually smaller capacity cards that report larger capacities to fool the customer.
BTW where are you getting the card from (I want one as well ).
Hi flamingpitofhell,
I am looking at Sandisk as well and most likely get it from their online store. I am trying to find more information whether it is worth the trouble.
I don't think Sandisk sell class 6 cards (yet). Buying from their online store's also more expensive than online retailers (I can get one in Australia for AUD155, which is ~USD137, cf their RRP of USD200).
thanks for the pointer. will look around for local stores here in Thailand.
Which city in Australia are you in? I studied in Perth more than a decaded back.
I'm in glorious Melbourne mate, haven't been to Perth yet
the only LEGIT 32GB Sandisk available right now in the market is only Class 2
if you read anything else, it is FAKE, specially from eBay
wait until the other microSD manufactures start pushing out 32GB on class 4 or class 6 before buying.
i'm using 2x 16GB Class 6 until the 32GB class 6 becomes available.
I'm using Class 2 32GB card in mine, its fine.
Its slower when you're transferring to the card from your PC, but for most people thats only particularly problematic the first time (loading music collection), after that you'll not really notice a difference in the phone (the read speeds are basically the same, and the phone can neither read nor write to the card faster than a Class 2 card can cope with). You can see it in the benchmarks taken post-mimocans fix - Class 2 cards are no slower than any other Class within the phone.
Grab one now and be happy.
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I'm using Class 2 32GB card in mine, its fine.
Grab one now and be happy.
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Where did you get yours from and how much for. I`m interested in getting one myself.
Thanks
my local stores already carry the real Sandisk 32GB class 2
too slow for my taste, i like to run Apps from the SD card, also use it as a SWAP partidion to prevent the LAG problem people complains about, it's a very easy fix
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
i wonder what would be better a 16gb class 6 or 32gb class 2...
is it worth sacrifising double of the memory for the speed?
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i wonder what would be better a 16gb class 6 or 32gb class 2...
is it worth sacrifising double of the memory for the speed?
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it depends what you are trying to do
if it's just to listen to mp3, then Class 2 is fine
if you want to run games, software, watch movies, use it for SWAP drive to have no lag, then minimum a Class 6
Class ratings don't really seem to have too much of an effect on real world performance: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1468705. Just discount the last result from the SGS (it's most likely mistaken for the internal SD).
i rather trust my experience coming from PalmOS + WinMb where real life situations using a class 4 or slower cards, made a huge word of difference when launching applications from SD and watching movies from SD
funny enough the numbers reported on that topic shows SGS i9000 to have the fastest speed even using the same card that got lower speed on the other phones.
which seems to point out it's directly proportional to the CPU speed, and the multitasking software running in the back end.
however as you see on those test itself, there are speed differences between class 2, class 4 and class 6
the same class # can not be compared to another class # of a different size,
if you imagine a hard drive, the bigger the hard drive the more layers/disk area it has to read, the same is true even for static SD cards.
however as pointed on those test Transcend usually has the fastest SD cards in the market, that's why i always buy that brand for performance, using a 16GB Transcend myself, waiting for the 32 GB class 6+ to come out
Adata has 2 lines, the performance line, and the standard line
if you want speed get the performance SD cards
Kingston and Sandisk are mostly standard speed, they don't release much performance level SD cards anymore, but they do have lots of those on USB sticks.
I tried my Brothers Sandisk Class 2 32GB and it worked perfectly.
Granted it's not as fast as my Sandisk Mobile Ultra Class 4 but that card flies anyway.
Certainly for recording your large movie files taken with the camera it's no different in speed than using the built in SDCard on the phone.
I have no problems watching 720P video on my phone. I have no problems launching applications either.
So much misinformation...
of course there is no problem, the issue here is getting the top performance, any SD card will work just fine.
it's just a matter of how fast/slow are you able to torelate
The only time you will notice any difference in speed is when transferring data to and from the card.
However, when you have double the space of other cards to consider speed should not be a deciding factor.
I'm already looking to get the Sandisk Class 2 32GB card. It will store all of my work files normally kept on my Laptop.
My Sandisk Class 4 Mobile Ultra 16GB will be my spare ~ should the larger card fail...
Thanks for the information s everyone.
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I have the 32GB sandisk card and works perfect. I have a 720p mkv file and my music on there. Playback was superb for the video with no noticeable lag. Mind you the card isn't anywhere near full yet. From my limited knowledge of sd cards, they put data on the fastest part first so the fuller it gets the slower the card is likely to get..
My plan is to put movies and songs on the 32GB file and reserve the internal 13GB for capturing video and taking pictures on the phone.
Howdy, I tried to film the aftermath of the bizarre weather we've been having here in Scotland yesterday, but I noticed that when I played it back, even converted it to an HD Avi and ran it through VirtualDub that at certain points the video lags and freezes, the sounds remains the same but the picture will pause for a second. I'm assuming (based on some research on Google and here) that it's because the memory card I'm using was the basic Class 2 that was shipped with the phone. Assuming I buy a Class 6 or that, the card will be fast enough to write HD video to it? I'm just wondering if any of you have had these problems, and/or does a higher class SD card fix it? (before I buy one!). Or, is it for a separate reason on the Desire Z that the video is jerky? Thanks! Below is my video should you want to see an example!
http://youtu.be/XX0zKKDRtUI?hd=1
Yes the class can have a massive impact on HD recording on this phone (and others), get a class 6 and you should soon see the differences.
Lennyuk said:
Yes the class can have a massive impact on HD recording on this phone (and others), get a class 6 and you should soon see the differences.
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Thank you, I shall, I just wanted to make sure! On a side note, if I change my memory card does Android get confused because of how it "deals" with the SD Card? (I'm coming from five years of Windows Mobile & I know they had no issues with SD Cards being swapped) but I noticed Android "Prepares The SD Card" whenever you unmount it or that.. Is it a straight forward swap and everything's working or is it a hassle of reinstalling certain things? Thanks!
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Thank you, I shall, I just wanted to make sure! On a side note, if I change my memory card does Android get confused because of how it "deals" with the SD Card? (I'm coming from five years of Windows Mobile & I know they had no issues with SD Cards being swapped) but I noticed Android "Prepares The SD Card" whenever you unmount it or that.. Is it a straight forward swap and everything's working or is it a hassle of reinstalling certain things? Thanks!
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I only ever copy files over, never had any issues doing that.
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I only ever copy files over, never had any issues doing that.
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Perfect thanks! I'm away to buy one, I assume that a higher class will improve the frame rate too! Thanks for your help!
Mine even stops recording after 13 seconds or so. Also have an older 16GB Class 2 card. I'm also getting a good Class 6 one.
Regarding files on the sdcard: Just copy everything from your old card to the new one. If you are using linux, be sure to also copy the hidden directories
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Mine even stops recording after 13 seconds or so. Also have an older 16GB Class 2 card. I'm also getting a good Class 6 one.
Regarding files on the sdcard: Just copy everything from your old card to the new one. If you are using linux, be sure to also copy the hidden directories
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Thank you, shall do! I'm just waiting on it now!
I have a 16Gb Class 6 card and have noticed the same thing with my HD video recordings being choppy.
I attributed it to other things going on such as data downloading or the system splitting resources to keep other balls in the air at the same time.
I can live with it, but would like it to be better as well.
I don't think the Class 6 card will make a difference for you, but it can't hurt either.
As to switching microSD cards, there's no issue with that. I don't know what happens behind the scenes when it's 'preparing the SD card' but the only issue I had was on the G1 when I was using apps2sd and have all of my apps on the ext3 partition.
I use a couple of different microSD cards regularly, no issues with swapping.
Good luck!
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I have a 16Gb Class 6 card and have noticed the same thing with my HD video recordings being choppy.
I attributed it to other things going on such as data downloading or the system splitting resources to keep other balls in the air at the same time.
I can live with it, but would like it to be better as well.
I don't think the Class 6 card will make a difference for you, but it can't hurt either.
As to switching microSD cards, there's no issue with that. I don't know what happens behind the scenes when it's 'preparing the SD card' but the only issue I had was on the G1 when I was using apps2sd and have all of my apps on the ext3 partition.
I use a couple of different microSD cards regularly, no issues with swapping.
Good luck!
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I'm using a 8GB Class4 card, same situation.
I tried to disable Live Wallpaper, put the phone in Flight Mode, close all user background program, overclocked to 1.4GHz. still lags.
If you change to the resolution just below the HD level then the videos record smoothly even on my 8gb class 2 card.
Does formatting the SD card with a different allocation unit size increase performance? Can anybody with a spare mini SD card test this -- the higher the size the better the performance (but more space gets eaten up by small files). The general idea with this is if the aus is small it conserves file space but you get slower read/writes -- if the aus is higher you get faster read/write but files take up more space.
I wonder if there is a good alternative video recording app that would handle the recording better...?
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If you change to the resolution just below the HD level then the videos record smoothly even on my 8gb class 2 card.
Does formatting the SD card with a different allocation unit size increase performance? Can anybody with a spare mini SD card test this -- the higher the size the better the performance (but more space gets eaten up by small files). The general idea with this is if the aus is small it conserves file space but you get slower read/writes -- if the aus is higher you get faster read/write but files take up more space.
I wonder if there is a good alternative video recording app that would handle the recording better...?
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Ah that's a good point if anyone has one spare!
Yeah, the 480 works fine on my standard SD too!
B73C said:
IAs to switching microSD cards, there's no issue with that. I don't know what happens behind the scenes when it's 'preparing the SD card' but the only issue I had was on the G1 when I was using apps2sd and have all of my apps on the ext3 partition.
I use a couple of different microSD cards regularly, no issues with swapping.
Good luck!
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Perfect, thank you!
For info i had bought a Kingmax class10 8gb, to swap with the supplied one but
after a 10 hours use of my desireZ, i had a message "sd card is read only"(corrupted files on it, in fact), at that time i used only googlenavigation/Layar/whatsApp as software "using Sdcard" and took 2 or 3 pictures with the camera for testing.
perhaps it's a single defective unit, but for feedback and history purposes, i post that
I'm waiting for my 16gb to arrive but I'm wondering if the chippy video is due to the included memory card.
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just got my new 16gb class 4 card and the video steal seems to be a problem. when moving the camera, the video will be smooth, then pause for a split second and continue w/smooth recording again, then the video will pause for a second again and so on. anyone having this issue while recording in hd?
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just got my new 16gb class 4 card and the video steal seems to be a problem. when moving the camera, the video will be smooth, then pause for a split second and continue w/smooth recording again, then the video will pause for a second again and so on. anyone having this issue while recording in hd?
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Bumping this thread because both my wife and I have the same problem with hesitations in video. She's stock; I have a 16gb class 4, stock rom, and faux's latest kernel.
Anyone else have or solve this problem?
I also have this problem. I was wondering if it was the sd card. I have this isssue with all sense ROMs. I even unrooted and flashed PD15IMG to get back to "as new" and reformatted sd card. The hesitation was still there. I haven't always had this problem with HD videos... I have a few videos recorded a while ago that are perfect or have one spot where it skips. I have contacted Tmobile about the issue because I have the insurance. The technician wanted to do some research on the issue and get back to me within 72 hours... which should be tomorrow (3-15-11). He said he wanted to see if there was a solution he didn't know of before they replace the phone. I'll let you know what happens.
T-mobile told me it was my sd card. I bought a class 10 and still had the problem. I called them back and asked for a replacement phone. My replacement should be here tomorrow.
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T-mobile told me it was my SIM card. I bought a class 10 and still had the problem. I called them back and asked for a replacement. My replacement should be here tomorrow.
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Seems unlikely, but keep us posted...
I read that rebooting right before creating a video helps, and I've also played around a little with overclocking the cpu before making a vid. Seems like these have helped on mine, but haven't had a chance to really test it out thoroughly.
I did get good 720p recording a day or two ago. It was a 40 second video with no choppiness. It's the first good video I had in a long time. I was running the RoyalGlacier 1.2 ROM. Team Royal makes great ROMs, especially coupled with faux123's kernels.
Here's some info that might be helpful to someone. I'd been having problems with choppy video, and was using a 16gb Patriot class 4 card. It turns out that this card was at least part of the problem. It's not a 'counterfeit' and was bought through a reputable retailer, and it passed the the 'h2testw' program in terms of overall capacity. BUT, the test showed that the write speed was actually a bit slower than the 8gb card that came with the phone (the read speed on the 16gb was a bit higher than the 8gb card, but I imagine this doesn't matter in recording vids much).
So I'm back to using the 8gb card that came with the phone. This fixes 90% of the choppiness issue that I've been experiencing the past couple months (got the new card in January). Btw, I did try reformatting the card, etc. I'm now going to look at buying another 16gb or 32gb card, but will be staying away from the Patriot brand and also trying to get one that is class 6 or higher.
I have class 2, 4, 6, and 10 cards. Only my class 10 patriot 8gb micro sd card seemed to work. Honestly a class 4 card should be fine for 720p recordings...but something's up with the software.
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I have class 2, 4, 6, and 10 cards. Only my class 10 patriot 8gb micro sd card seemed to work. Honestly a class 4 card should be fine for 720p recordings...but something's up with the software.
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It may be that something in the software keeps it from writing efficiently, but definitely weird that the 16gb class 4 patriot tested out with a lower write speed than the 8gb one that came with the phone...and that's the only thing that seemed different with that card that would explain why I was getting so much more stuttering on my vids.
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It may be that something in the software keeps it from writing efficiently, but definitely weird that the 16gb class 4 patriot tested out with a lower write speed than the 8gb one that came with the phone...and that's the only thing that seemed different with that card that would explain why I was getting so much more stuttering on my vids.
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what class is the 8gb card that came with your phone? some came with class 2 and some with class 4.
it's commonly known in the storage/memory world that the larger the card size the slower the write (and often read) speeds will be. Granted when an SD card is certified to be a certain class it should meet the standards of that class. That being said, how a card is formatted, handled, and ejected or not ejected properly affects the performance of the card.
in my years of experience buy the size of the card that you need to use...getting a card 2x than your storage needs maybe thinking ahead but if speed is what you want, smaller is better and of course the higher class the better.
I got my 8gb class10 patriot from amazon for $25 flat and have no complaints. SD card tester programs tell me the card is writing data at about 10mb/sec which is what it should be doing.
good luck with your video issues, and hopefully a future update will rectify the situation so that even class 2 can handle the recording and playback of recorded videos on the device.
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what class is the 8gb card that came with your phone? some came with class 2 and some with class 4.
it's commonly known in the storage/memory world that the larger the card size the slower the write (and often read) speeds will be. Granted when an SD card is certified to be a certain class it should meet the standards of that class. That being said, how a card is formatted, handled, and ejected or not ejected properly affects the performance of the card.
in my years of experience buy the size of the card that you need to use...getting a card 2x than your storage needs maybe thinking ahead but if speed is what you want, smaller is better and of course the higher class the better.
I got my 8gb class10 patriot from amazon for $25 flat and have no complaints. SD card tester programs tell me the card is writing data at about 10mb/sec which is what it should be doing.
good luck with your video issues, and hopefully a future update will rectify the situation so that even class 2 can handle the recording and playback of recorded videos on the device.
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The card that came with the phone is a class 2, and the test showed it was writing at above 5MBps, while the 16gb Patriot class 4 was just above 4MBps.
In terms of creating videos on each card, I tested them each immediately after a full format and with a somewhat controlled view of the same scene. Thus, the only variable that would seem to be able to account for the poor performance using the 16gb card seems to be the card itself, and, my guess is more specifically, the write speed.
Perhaps slightly over 4MBps is just below the threshold for what is required for a stutter-free video, and perhaps some variability in the cards that shipped with the phones accounts for why some people are reporting hesitations in their videos while others are not.
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The card that came with the phone is a class 2, and the test showed it was writing at above 5MBps, while the 16gb Patriot class 4 was just above 4MBps.
In terms of creating videos on each card, I tested them each immediately after a full format and with a somewhat controlled view of the same scene. Thus, the only variable that would seem to be able to account for the poor performance using the 16gb card seems to be the card itself, and, my guess is more specifically, the write speed.
Perhaps slightly over 4MBps is just below the threshold for what is required for a stutter-free video, and perhaps some variability in the cards that shipped with the phones accounts for why some people are reporting hesitations in their videos while others are not.
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that's probably a good evaluation of the situation. i never did test my 4gb class 6 card, but i do know it transfered the contents of my music folder significantly faster than the 8gb class2 card that came with the device. Yet that card was still not enough for stutter free 720p recording. I can only assume its speeds were <10mb/sec. So the sweet spot is probably 6mb/sec.+
thinking bigger picture, there's a serious QC issue if some people with the same cards have issues while others don't. though i question if some people think that they're recording 720 by default and never bothered to check the video settings to begin with (default is 480p). therefore some people think they have no problems, but it's only because they're recording in 480p (which is still clear, especially on screen).
i had a few minutes. ran a test on 3 cards
1. 8gb class2 - stock card - ~4mb write
2. 4gb class6 - ~6mb write
3. 8gb class10 - ~10mb write
So as i stated before, for my phone, i need more than 6mb/sec + card for stable 720p video recording.
I haven't checked this thread in a while, but I just got a replacement mt4g w/the good screen and thought maybe it'd improve, but hd video recording is still freezing up every so often. so I've just resorted to taking video in widescreen. hopefully someone figures something out. I'm running faux kernel, stock rom.
So I was reading this thread and remembered a thread I read yesterday in the android apps and development forum. Apparently we are governed by how fast our SD Cards are read, but you can change it. Anyway, if someone wants to try the fix out (seems simple) I think it would be a good place to start. If it ends up working out make sure to let us know which method you used.
Link to the thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010807
just flashed 2048 on my mt4g. tested a few short clips which seemed to have improved. The 2nd clip there were only a few very slight pauses on video recording. This was off of a fresh reboot though, so I will continue to test through out the day as I use my phone more.
Update: The flash didn't seem to stick. as suggested by some others on the thread I'm now using/testing sd speed boost. Settings seem to stick, and so far there hasn't been any choppiness in recording hd. will continue testing and let you know.
Update: Doesn't help...still happens.
im on cmrc4, using the same sd card that came with the phone it is recording fine
could you try this out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025512
just made the changes. video -15000000 and audio -96000. Let me do a few tests.
Hey I know that the main problem with the Evo camcorder is in how it is encoded and the main restriction holding back the quality is the speed of the sd card. I would like some feedback for those of you who upgraded their sd cards on whether it has had an impact on video recording.
Thanks
currently I have the stock sd card, but I'm considering upgrading if there is a significant difference in video quality
no increase on mine
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Hey I know that the main problem with the Evo camcorder is in how it is encoded and the main restriction holding back the quality is the speed of the sd card. I would like some feedback for those of you who upgraded their sd cards on whether it has had an impact on video recording.
Thanks
currently I have the stock sd card, but I'm considering upgrading if there is a significant difference in video quality
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I've had two memory cards besides the factory 8GB. One was a Sandisk 16GB Class 2 and the other is a Lexar 32GB Class 10. Video recording on the class 2 cards while panning at a good clip introduces artifacts into each captured frame, and the fps drops considerably. However, with the class 10 card, both of those are reduced significantly. The artifacts are virtually non-existant and the fps slow down only happens when moving the camera really fast.
I would definitely look into getting a class ten. Two cards that people are going with are the Wintec 32GB (avoid the 16GB) and the Lexar 32GB. Check out www.provantage.com for the Lexar card and www.newegg.com for the Wintec one.
I'm using a class 10 16gb, After looking through my videos, I would say there is a small improvement in quality. Mainly in the old videos I noticed every once in a while it would get pixelated, the new ones don't and theres less of a grainy look. One MAJOR thing I want to point out is on the old 8gb class 2 I was using a sense camera now I'm using the asop one in CM7.
I would just go spend the $30 and get a better card, it'll make your life better in every way!
anyone know what the threshold is for sd card classes regarding quality? in other words, besides faster data transfer speeds to another device what is the lowest class # needed to see improvement before its overkill?
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anyone know what the threshold is for sd card classes regarding quality? in other words, besides faster data transfer speeds to another device what is the lowest class # needed to see improvement before its overkill?
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Seems class 10 works well. If I get time at some point I'll try to do a test with similar lighting and such. I have class 2,4(?)6, and 10.
Also one point I want to make is I got my 16gb class 10 on newegg for $30(wintec, it has horrible reviews but mine works fine), but theres a ton of others and check out the accessories forum a lot of times people will post up when they find a deal.
If you just want more speed theres lots of 8gb class 6 for under $15. Micro Sd cards have dropped a whole lot in a short time
Drewmungus said:
Seems class 10 works well. If I get time at some point I'll try to do a test with similar lighting and such. I have class 2,4(?)6, and 10.
Also one point I want to make is I got my 16gb class 10 on newegg for $30(wintec, it has horrible reviews but mine works fine), but theres a ton of others and check out the accessories forum a lot of times people will post up when they find a deal.
If you just want more speed theres lots of 8gb class 6 for under $15. Micro Sd cards have dropped a whole lot in a short time
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i dont care too much for faster data/file transfers to & from a computer as id rather spend the extra money for more storage than on a class 10 when a class 6 improves video recording just as well.
on the other hand, if apps or videos that are installed onto an external class 10 sd perform better than class 6, than itd be worth the upgrade, but im not sure if the phones processing power is the limiting factor or the weakest link, if that makes sense.
any one else care to share their thoughts of say a class 6 vs a class 10. I still have the stock class 2 in both my evos and video quality is very unreliable.
Thanks