tightness of slider - EVO Shift 4G General

how tight is everyone's slider mechanism? If you grab the screen with one hand and grab the keyboard with the other (while closed or open), does it twist much?

I have a little play with the slider but its barely noticeable. I've come to expect this with all slider phones.
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koolkid09 said:
I have a little play with the slider but its barely noticeable. I've come to expect this with all slider phones.
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I wasn't sure if it was normal or not. Haven't ever had a slider. I'm not a huge fan of how the keyboard doesn't really "snap" open, but it's a darn nice keyboard to me either way

I've had mine in the blue/black case from radioshack since the 6th. In the case is has pratically no play at all, out of the case its just as awesome.
I was worried it being in the case might damage it, buts it great so far.
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Mine's developed a little play when it's closed. By that I mean the screen can move slightly before more force is required to open the keyboard.
When the keyboard is open, there's also a small amount of play with the screen. The screen can 'twist' a bit if I push down on the right or left side.
Small annoyances but I'm not sure it would be any different if I took it back for a new one.

I never noticed the "new" plastic wrap thats on either side of the keyboard, after i removed it, the slider is smoother and more responsive. Feels really solid to me.

My wife's has never had any play at all. The slider feels smooth and crisp. Compared to my old Epic which would bend and move its quite refreshing to not feel like I could break the phone by opening it.

I'm going back to radioshack and trade my phone for a newer shift because it seems like my slider keeps getting worse and worse. And I also have a black hue at the bottom of my screen. Now I remember why I hate sliders. Lol.
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I never noticed the "new" plastic wrap thats on either side of the keyboard, after i removed it, the slider is smoother and more responsive. Feels really solid to me.
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Wow.. I cant believe I didnt notice it either until I saw this post... I was like, no way could I have missed that after using it constantly for 2 weeks. But there it is...
P.S. - seconds after posting I realized that the protective plastic wrap is not only on both sides of the keyboard. If you slide your keyboard out and turn the phone around, you will notice that the entire backside of the screen surface (where it reads "with Google") is covered in a large sheet of the same plastic. After all of the plastic is off there is definitely a noticable difference in the smoothness of the slider. Thanks again to stealthfx.

Osin83 said:
Wow.. I cant believe I didnt notice it either until I saw this post... I was like, no way could I have missed that after using it constantly for 2 weeks. But there it is... Made a noticable difference in the slider after removing it.
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Wow, me too

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you know what i hate?

that when my screen is closed and the keyboard is hidden, where ever i touch on the screen the screen and the entire top part of the phone moves when i touch the screen. its like my screen isnt tight. im not talking about the hindge opening, because obvioulsy what horse has been beaten to a pulp, but the screen itself. i apologize for the rant, but i just want to see if anyone else has the hate as well. only thing wrong with the phone!
I do not have this problem. You probably have a defective unit.
your screen isnt loose just a tad? i might just be over thinking it. i mean i just can feel the the screen just move a little when i type on it.
I too have never had this issue...you should take a look into that.
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Just pushed on my screen MUCH harder than I would in normal use and it didn't so much as budge. Think you might have a bad device.
Yep me too,.... My hinge is definitely loose but there is no movement whatsoever when the device is shut.
Warranty!!!
Mine does that too. My wife's does not and my original one which I warrenteed already didn't either. But my replacement does.
The plastic casing must be slightly warped enough to misalign the little bumpers.
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Yea I have this to, really annoying. I had one of those clip on cases on my phone for a while , it might have been that which made it loose.
It depends on which way you are holding it when you push on it, if you hold it perpendicular for example it has this issue.
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Mine will rock sideways if you try (and if you're tapping around on screen you MIGHT feel the gap on the left side change), it's not all that much though - and the 3 G2s I've used were all like that.
yeah, thats what i mean. like the way the hinge was made, it doesnt quite sit the phone flat on the keyboard piece. im glad i see other peoples g2s have it as well and im not the only one. its mainly when the phone is in portrait and the top left part of the screen is touch it rocks just a tad.
My condolences to all who have these petty little problems..and i mean that..no sarcasm at all here...
Even with that...and the ballyhooed hinge hysteria...
Is this not the greatest phone ever made? For real? Sure..its no Dream snappy impenetrable...but its still a suhhhhhhhweeeeet phone.
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androidcues said:
My condolences to all who have these petty little problems..and i mean that..no sarcasm at all here...
Even with that...and the ballyhooed hinge hysteria...
Is this not the greatest phone ever made? For real? Sure..its no Dream snappy impenetrable...but its still a suhhhhhhhweeeeet phone.
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Sarcasm noted...
For a phone with such great build quality/feel, something like the OP's problem (and mine) is fairly annoying. This feels like an executive class phone...for the first few weeks. It is a sweet phone/device. Too bad it's not perfect like my Vibrant, errr Nexus S, err.... Still waiting for the "perfect" phone.
lol
I was hanging out on Slickdeals and saw all the G2 love (yes, people really loved getting their phone free on cyber monday).. then a thread came up for the HTC shift.. and all the sprint guys were bashing it.
It's the same damn phone.
Still makes me laugh.
Best phone I have ever owned without a doubt, not a huge fan of the Z hinge but without it the keyboard wouldn't be so flush and ergonomic, its a small price to pay for superior user-friendliness
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I have to agree with all the DZ/G2 love here. It's a fantastic phone. Aside from VERY minor issues with the hinge tightness (though, there seems to be some 'hardware hackers' working on that! , this phone is as close to perfect as I can imagine. I *love* having a hardware keyboard, and it's waaay better than the G1. (Though a ctrl/alt key would be nice for ssh sessions!).

[Q] My only concern about the Epic

I'm pretty content with my Epic so far. I've had it since November and have had no major issues with it and any I did have I was able to fix (no gps after flash, fixed thanks to Epic community, unresponsive screen orientation, fixed thanks to epic community again).
But I'm noticing a potential problem that I'm afraid no one here will be able to fix.
One of the minor gripes I have with my Epic is that whenever I press the top right button on my phone to either lock or unlock it, I ever so slightly apply some pressure with my fingers as if I wanted to push the screen up to slide out the keyboard. The amount of pressure my fingers are giving is minuscule but I'm already noticing that my phone no longer is as firm as it was 90 days ago.
This troubles me because I hardly ever use the keyboard, in fact, I only used it several times the first month to try out some emulators but gave up on it because the keyboard just isnt that great for it. My fear is that this phone is going to get as loose as the epics you find at the Sprint stores in less than a year!
Dont get me wrong, I dont expect the sliding mechanism to be strong forever, but I am pretty surprised that the phone is already feeling loose and I dont even use the physical keyboard
My question to you all is are any of you experiencing the same problem? How about those who use the keyboard frequently? Is there any way we can "re-tighten" whatever it is that is getting loose??
My phone is only 2months old and when the keyboard is shut and you look at it from the volume side I have a huge gap there. The slider is a little loose not to bad. My problem is just the gap issue. If I press on the left side of my screen you can literally see the left side of the screen go down due to that gap. I'm gonna be exchanging it soon I just don't feel like it cause my setup is finished and I just dont feel like doing it again.
I notice the epic case set helps it from feeling as loose now.
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My phone is only 2months old and when the keyboard is shut and you look at it from the volume side I have a huge gap there. The slider is a little loose not to bad. My problem is just the gap issue. If I press on the left side of my screen you can literally see the left side of the screen go down due to that gap. I'm gonna be exchanging it soon I just don't feel like it cause my setup is finished and I just dont feel like doing it again.
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You can backup your data to your pc..and when you get your new epic just throw it back in.
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It is what it is...
There are multiple causes for the screen wobble effect, and once it gets loose, much like a fine woman's _____, there's not much you can do to fix the situation. I've read on here how people have taken their epic's apart to try and tighten the slider but it's just not possible unless you send it back to samsung to have them do it. However, there are a few solutions insofar as mitigating one's "noticing" it on a daily basis. Both the Otterbox and Seidio Active X are nice cases and once they are attached, there is not really any screen wobble effect due to the way the cases fit. Although, what most people don't realize is that most of the cheap cases that are available for the epic (including the ones at the sprint store and the non-platinum series cases at best buy) are actually to blame for creating the gap between the screen and keyboard in the first place. The way that they clip on to the phone is not very well thought out like on the more expensive cases and the clips sometimes overlap and are simply thicker than they need to be on most of the cheapo cases. I learned this the hard way with my first epic and when I figured it out it was still within the 30 day trial period Sprint gives you with their phones. So i took it back under "false pretenses" and told bestbuy that the earphone speaker quality was ****ty compared to my "friends" Epic and that i wanted to get a different Epic. I've been very careful about which cases I use on my phone from that point on. The Seidio innocase and active x, platinum series, and otterbox cases are all the ones i know for sure that won't cause a "gaping" effect on your phone. All the ones at the sprint store have a negative impact and even the otterbox does just a tad, mainly due to the side clips on the top bezel that clipon by the top row of numbers on the keyboard.
anyways, that's my 2cents

[Q] Slight Screen Wobble Normal?

Hello Everyone,
This post is, more than anything, just for peace of mind (and some of you will probably think it's not a big deal).
Anyways, I just got a Google I/O version of the Xperia Play and noticed that with the slider closed if I hold the phone with the micro-usb facing up, and tap on that edge of the screen, it will exhibit slight looseness. Also when the slider is open there is a very slight movement (but it probably wouldn't move unless you were testing it). I'm just wondering if all this is normal since all the reviews I've read call the slider one of the best ever made "solid as Stonehenge on a windy day" as one reviewer called it. Any thoughts?
zac
Hmm mine doesnt shake
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mine kind of wobbles, if I push either corner up it'll wobble maybe about 2mm.
Every slider phone I've had wobbles a bit even the aino which was possibly the most stable slider I've ever used.
I was hoping that the xplay was a little more stable.
Yeah...maybe it's my inexperience with slider phones but I almost thought it would be completely stiff (like no wiggle). It's not like it's "shaking" persay, just that there enough movement when pressing it in certain areas, to make it noticeable. I finally found another thread on the sony forum which had a conversation about this...the crowd is divided on whether this is a manufacturing problem or just designed that way...
The problem seems to be that the hinges are at the very top (when the slider is open). So there is nothing holding it down towards the very bottom when the slider is closed.
I only see wobbling when the slider is closed btw, when it's open its very solid.
I think a long, thin rubbery strip underneath the analogue thingamajigs would stop a lot of the wobble. IMO
+1 mine wiggles a little bit
The side where the usb port is wiggles 1mm.

To All Owners-Does Your Note 10.1 make creaking sounds?

Hi,
I picked up a Note 10.1 from Amazon yesterday. When it arrived, like the other thread has mentioned. It came with the seal broken. However I wasn't too worried.
Today I was using it in a quiet room and without putting too much pressure on the tablet while holding it. I could easily produce creaking sounds by gently holding the Note 10.1 in landscape by the sides.
I love this tablet in all aspects. But it really bothers me as this is a sign of poor production quality control.
I am willing to give it another chance, but I want to know if yours make the creaking sound as well.
Thanks for your help.
no creaking sounds on my tablet and I had broken seals also from bestbuy... just return it for a new one... WD40 is good for creaks but dont recommend them on tablets.
Mine does a little and being all plastic I assumed it would before I purchased it.It's not a big deal to me.
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Maybe once,
but it's produced by Samsung,so you konw...
Mine has never creaked in the least. Who knows. Could just be a quality control issue on a few units. There have been a number of units with light bleed as well while most are just fine.
Consider getting a nice sturdy case for it. Not a bad idea anyway
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My First one had Creak so I returned it. The new one is solid no creaks at all.
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no creaking sound, sounds like a defect, send it back to samsung
No sound on mine
Absolutely no sounds on my tab regardless of how I hold it.
This is not normal, return it.
I bought mine on BB few days after release.
Yes, mine creaks extensively. My only complaint. I have grey 16GB and on the right side it creaks anytime i touch it. I have it in case too. I was curious if the white one doesnt creak but my creak doesn't seem like its a small amount. I considered returning it but its such a perfect tablet i was cautious i might get one that isnt perfect (sorry i used to be a Prime and Infinity user and it left a bad taste in my mouth) or one whose speaker doesnt work. But...its not a subtle creak at all, which is why i considered it in the first place. Biggest creaks for me are on the right side under the speaker (just touching my finger on the edge of the panel creaks, i dont need to press) and on the bottom left side of the screen to the left of the down arrow). I will consider returning it now after reading some of these comments... just worried because everything else is perfect including screen (again, ex-Prime user got me paranoid about returning a near perfect tablet). I know this is a ridiculous thing to complain about but the creak is quite loud, as i notice it in meetings and during a class. Also of course at night. If it didn't make a sound, and instead just had flexibility, i wouldn't complain as much. I know it's ridiculous but the tablet cost quite a lot...
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Yes, mine creaks extensively. My only complaint. I have grey 16GB and on the right side it creaks anytime i touch it. I have it in case too. I was curious if the white was doesnt but it does seem like its a small amount. I considered returning it but its such a perfect tablet i was cautious i might get one that isnt perfect (sorry i used to be a Prime and Infinity user and it left a bad taste in my mouth) or one whose speaker doesnt work. But...its not a subtle creak at all, which is why i considered it in the first place. Biggest creaks for me are on the right side under the speaker (just touching my finger on the edge of the panel creaks, i dont need to press) and on the bottom left side of the screen to the left of the down arrow). I will consider returning it now after reading some of these comments... just worried because everything else is perfect including screen (again, ex-Prime user got me paranoid about returning a near perfect tablet).
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Our tablet creak at the exact same spot. right.side under the speakers. i have a 32gb gray. to the owners that dont have the creaking, what color is yours and where is it made from?
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No. But, I haven't tried to bend it (like those reviewers I've read about) or put a lot of pressure on it. I just hold it. Lightly touch and swipe the screen. I just use enough force to get a response.
16GB Grey, creaks every time I pick it up, so annoying. Oh well.
I originally thought mine was creaking. It ended up being my finger squeaking on the plastic when I picked it up.
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Yes, mine creaks extensively. My only complaint. I have grey 16GB and on the right side it creaks anytime i touch it. I have it in case too. I was curious if the white was doesnt but it does seem like its a small amount. I considered returning it but its such a perfect tablet i was cautious i might get one that isnt perfect (sorry i used to be a Prime and Infinity user and it left a bad taste in my mouth) or one whose speaker doesnt work. But...its not a subtle creak at all, which is why i considered it in the first place. Biggest creaks for me are on the right side under the speaker (just touching my finger on the edge of the panel creaks, i dont need to press) and on the bottom left side of the screen to the left of the down arrow). I will consider returning it now after reading some of these comments... just worried because everything else is perfect including screen (again, ex-Prime user got me paranoid about returning a near perfect tablet).
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I am testing a white 16 GB unit, it creaks at the same spot, but it is not as severe. Still, not something I would expect in this price range. Maybe there is connection with a pen space, it creaks only in that area :S
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That's what I thought exactly. It has to do with the S Pen's slot. I also just realized I had mine for a month, it definitely passed my "lets see if I want to keep this or return it" period. I love it.
No creaking.
No creaking here, a white 16gb retail unit from John Lewis, seals intact.
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No creaking, White from Best Buy
No creaks on mine. I hold my Note with one hand on the corner and not a peep.
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I dropped mine in a creek and now it won't work. Does that count?
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Uncomfortable to hold for long periods

Anyone else notice this or is it just me? I need to get a cover for it and that will probably help a lot. It's the shape of the edges, its like they are designed to mess up my fingers. The slick back makes it harder to grip and therefore I have to hold it tighter than I would say my old kindle, thus making the ergonomics worse.
Vibrate said:
Anyone else notice this or is it just me? I need to get a cover for it and that will probably help a lot. It's the shape of the edges, its like they are designed to mess up my fingers. The slick back makes it harder to grip and therefore I have to hold it tighter than I would say my old kindle, thus making the ergonomics worse.
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Yup I hate this...I even remove the slide cover to give my hands some slack. I have to hold the tablet with both hands just to make semi comfortable.
perez6991 said:
Yup I hate this...I even remove the slide cover to give my hands some slack. I have to hold the tablet with both hands just to make semi comfortable.
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Hey whats the slide cover like? Features etc, benefits too..... is it worth the #20 pounds from currys?:silly:
gagan313 said:
Hey whats the slide cover like? Features etc, benefits too..... is it worth the #20 pounds from currys?:silly:
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Well IMO I like the way they integrated the actual cover into the tablet itself, it makes a good stand for watching videos and stuff or playing games if you have a gamepad. As for benefits...hmm, protecting the screen may be one. I haven't seen a scratch and I've owned it for a month and a half now (my nexus 7 got hairline scratches in the first week -_-). The only problem is ergonomics, if you hold it incorrectly it makes it uncomfortable to hold after long periods of use. Overall I think its worth the buy.
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Well IMO I like the way they integrated the actual cover into the tablet itself, it makes a good stand for watching videos and stuff or playing games if you have a gamepad. As for benefits...hmm, protecting the screen may be one. I haven't seen a scratch and I've owned it for a month and a half now (my nexus 7 got hairline scratches in the first week -_-). The only problem is ergonomics, if you hold it incorrectly it makes it uncomfortable to hold after long periods of use. Overall I think its worth the buy.
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Thanks very much for that... Really helped.
I just ordered a case that's designed for the HP slate extreme. Cost me $12. Its a stand and cover and should fix the uncomfortable ergonomics. I'll post a review when it gets here tomorrow.
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Adding a decal skin to the face and back have helped immensely. Ofc, there's nothing out there that's a custom fit for the Tegra Note, so I just used a the cheapest Nexus 7 skin I could find and it's an incredibly ill fit, but it's an improvement. This tablet is really heavy as ****. I wonder who the genius engineer is that wanted a big magnet on the back cover.
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Adding a decal skin to the face and back have helped immensely. Ofc, there's nothing out there that's a custom fit for the Tegra Note, so I just used a the cheapest Nexus 7 skin I could find and it's an incredibly ill fit, but it's an improvement. This tablet is really heavy as ****. I wonder who the genius engineer is that wanted a big magnet on the back cover.
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HEy could you potentially post some pics of ur tab now with case/skins etc I would want to see what it looks like .....
.........Also I bought an tegra note case just last week and I have tested it out properly..... I have had no issues except to get used to holding it when playing games.... but then I got around it but standing it and putting two fingers either side inside the triangular flap where it stands and rest the two outside fingers on either hand around the triangular flap.... It made it loads easier and comfrtable to play :victory:
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HEy could you potentially post some pics of ur tab now with case/skins etc I would want to see what it looks like .....
.........Also I bought an tegra note case just last week and I have tested it out properly..... I have had no issues except to get used to holding it when playing games.... but then I got around it but standing it and putting two fingers either side inside the triangular flap where it stands and rest the two outside fingers on either hand around the triangular flap.... It made it loads easier and comfrtable to play :victory:
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Maybe you won't experience stiffness (tendonitis?) in the fingers. I didn't start to really notice this was going to be a big issue until probably a month into owning it. I'm sure there are other factors involved other than just the tablet, but I can say that I've never experienced tendonitis in my fingers before.
As far as photos, my skin looks like crap. It's all off center. If you're still interested I can post later when I get a new skin and cut it up & apply properly. I think the skin on the glass border shifts around a bit.
Vibrate said:
Maybe you won't experience stiffness (tendonitis?) in the fingers. I didn't start to really notice this was going to be a big issue until probably a month into owning it. I'm sure there are other factors involved other than just the tablet, but I can say that I've never experienced tendonitis in my fingers before.
As far as photos, my skin looks like crap. It's all off center. If you're still interested I can post later when I get a new skin and cut it up & apply properly. I think the skin on the glass border shifts around a bit.
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I think I understand where you are coming from from the fingers side... However i dont really think NVIDIA though the case through properly lol....Only for watching movies and drawing etc.. (Hands free sort of thing.... Although I play on it everyday xD)

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