Is the UK O2 Dell Streak fully compatible with all US AT&T bands - GSM & UMTS??
Hello,
I was wondering if the UK O2 Dell Streak is fully compatible with all US AT&T bands - GSM & UMTS??
Specifically can it handle 850/1900 UMTS?
Thanks.
no they can not handle att 3g bands. the only streak with att's 3g is the beta att streaks witch have been blacklisted. you will only get 2g using att with the o2 phone.
I know you can only use 2g in Tmobile network in US.
But if HSDPA+ is available can dell streak use that instead of 2g? or it's not compatible with HSDPA+ frequency?
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The Streak on O2 in the UK has HSDPA, can't speak for what you will get on TMobile but no reason why it should'nt work.
I imagine several Canadians like myself will be considering the Dell Venue Pro for use on our new AWS 3G networks (Wind, Mobilicity, Public Mobile, etc.) or, in the alternative, for EDGE 850/1900 2G use on Rogers (or Fido, Chatr, etc.).
(This post is NOT a question about the frequency bands that the DVP supports - there are plenty of other threads for people who are confused about that.)
For the few who managed to get the DVP from Microsoft Stores off-contract (i.e. for $499) on launch, has anybody tried putting in a non-T-Mobile (i.e. AT&T) SIM? Some posts and sites are reporting that Dell will SIM lock the phones to T-Mobile whether you buy them with a contract or not. Has anybody tried calling Dell and asking for a SIM unlock code?
Someone with a DVP from a MS store has already confirmed they tried an at&t SIM and it worked, in one of the threads here.
Okay cool.
Obviously I realize that it will be difficult to confirm until mid-December, but hopefully the same thing will be true of off-contract Venue Pro phones ordered from Dell.com
A sidenote to those who are confused about the Venue Pro 2G and 3G bands (a tragic bit of confusion):
First, pdadb.net lists a SECOND model of the Venue Pro, set to be released in December or January, that does UMTS on the 850/1900/2100 bands. I can't find any independent sources for this.
Second, Rogers users will be pleased to recall that there have been reports, over the past year and a half, of limited 2100 mHz 3G service in parts of downtown Toronto and other Canadian cities.
Third, the FCC documents posted for the current AWS model of the Venue Pro include letters from Dell apparently promissing the FCC that although the phone's radio is capable of 3G on the 850 and 1900 MHz bands, they will prevent it from doing so in firmware. This has led me to speculate that the phone's hardware is indeed capable of 850/900/1700/1900/2100, like the iPhone 4G - but with certain bands shut off in firmware depending on the SKU. Very cool, and some hope if future radio firmwares are interchangeable.
I was going to test this for you using one of our DVPs here in the office, but apparently ATT will automatically charge the loan ATT user in the office for data once the smartphone authenticates with the network. He's already been burned once by this and wants to hold off testing again until he actually has a smartphone plan on his line.
benjaminries said:
Okay cool.
Obviously I realize that it will be difficult to confirm until mid-December, but hopefully the same thing will be true of off-contract Venue Pro phones ordered from Dell.com
A sidenote to those who are confused about the Venue Pro 2G and 3G bands (a tragic bit of confusion):
First, pdadb.net lists a SECOND model of the Venue Pro, set to be released in December or January, that does UMTS on the 850/1900/2100 bands. I can't find any independent sources for this.
Second, Rogers users will be pleased to recall that there have been reports, over the past year and a half, of limited 2100 mHz 3G service in parts of downtown Toronto and other Canadian cities.
Third, the FCC documents posted for the current AWS model of the Venue Pro include letters from Dell apparently promissing the FCC that although the phone's radio is capable of 3G on the 850 and 1900 MHz bands, they will prevent it from doing so in firmware. This has led me to speculate that the phone's hardware is indeed capable of 850/900/1700/1900/2100, like the iPhone 4G - but with certain bands shut off in firmware depending on the SKU. Very cool, and some hope if future radio firmwares are interchangeable.
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It works with ATT
My VP does work with ATT only when 3G is turned off but that's to be expected.
I have been using my Microsoft store Tmobile Dell Venue Pro on ATT since day 3 or so. Been over a week.
Sangheili said:
I have been using my Microsoft store Tmobile Dell Venue Pro on ATT since day 3 or so. Been over a week.
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You will be able to use the phone fine on AT&T. But you will be limited to Edge only.
The Dell Venue Pro uses 900 / 1700 / 2100
AT&T's 3g network is: 850 / 1900
Well, thank you everyone for the info. That's quite a relief and I appreciate you testing your Venue Pros.
Sounds like the buyers of the off-contract Dell Streak aren't as lucky:
http://liliputing.com/2010/08/dell-...m-locked-to-att-with-or-without-contract.html
Again, I have no illusions about the 3G/2G thing. Though I live in Toronto, and odds are that I will get 3G on the 2100 MHz in some parts of the downtown. But 2G is fine until my Rogers contract runs out and I can switch to Wind or something.
benjaminries said:
Well, thank you everyone for the info. That's quite a relief and I appreciate you testing your Venue Pros.
Sounds like the buyers of the off-contract Dell Streak aren't as lucky:
http://liliputing.com/2010/08/dell-...m-locked-to-att-with-or-without-contract.html
Again, I have no illusions about the 3G/2G thing. Though I live in Toronto, and odds are that I will get 3G on the 2100 MHz in some parts of the downtown. But 2G is fine until my Rogers contract runs out and I can switch to Wind or something.
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There are 3 ways to unlock a phone:
1. Contact the carrier (in this case T-Mobile), and complain that you need to travel and switch to a local sim...you'll get your code.
2. Use one of the cell phone unlocking sites.
3. Wait for XDA to release an unlocking tool.
benjaminries said:
Well, thank you everyone for the info. That's quite a relief and I appreciate you testing your Venue Pros.
Sounds like the buyers of the off-contract Dell Streak aren't as lucky:
http://liliputing.com/2010/08/dell-...m-locked-to-att-with-or-without-contract.html
Again, I have no illusions about the 3G/2G thing. Though I live in Toronto, and odds are that I will get 3G on the 2100 MHz in some parts of the downtown. But 2G is fine until my Rogers contract runs out and I can switch to Wind or something.
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How are you planning on getting a DVP in Canada? I live in Canada as well (Ottawa) and I want a DVP too.
Se4nH4x said:
How are you planning on getting a DVP in Canada? I live in Canada as well (Ottawa) and I want a DVP too.
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I'm going to California to visit some people in December. I'll probably order from Dell.com and have it shipped to them. In the alternative I could go to the Microsoft store in L.A. (assuming demand dies down a bit and they have stock by then).
Razorfold said:
There are 3 ways to unlock a phone:
1. Contact the carrier (in this case T-Mobile), and complain that you need to travel and switch to a local sim...you'll get your code.
2. Use one of the cell phone unlocking sites.
3. Wait for XDA to release an unlocking tool.
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LOL
I hate to sway off topic, but which other WP7 devices are sim free? I swap sims a lot. Its my main deciding factor. Thanks.
I'm trying to buy a AWS Dell Streak 5 from some guy online. The box says "GSM 850/900/1800/1900 HSDPA 850/ 900/1700/1900/2100" But yet he is only to pick up AT&T's 3G, and is unable to pick up T-Mobile's 3G. He said he bought it directly from Dell. Isn't HSDPA 850/ 900/1700/1900/2100 the AWS version?? Why would it be able to pick up AT&T's 3G instead? Did Dell goofed up on the box? I want to use it on T-Mobile's 3G.
the AWS model supports 900/1700/2100
the US model supports 850/1900/2100
for 3g
both models support 850/900/1800/1900 for 3g
check the infobox at Dell streak - xda wiki
there's no model that can do 850/900/1700/1900/2100 for 3g
likely if that's what it really says on the box it's an error.
Most likely if he bought it directly from Dell, then it would be the AT&T model, right? I've heard Dell doesn't sell the AWS version.
Dell still manufactures them in small quantities, but you cant buy them directly though dell.
The only reliable way of getting a new aws streak is though cincinnati bell, which only sells them locally
Would I be able to buy the Dell streak 5 from cincinnati bell without contract, just the phone by itself? Or do I have to be currently active with service
i believe you can buy them off contract, but you have to buy them in person/in the coverage area. They dont ship cross country, they check zip codes or something.
I dont actually live anywhere near their coverage area, so I'm working off secondhand info
I am wondering if anyone knows if the dell streak will work on mobilicity with no data? just regular 2G. I have a regular GSM Dell streak and was wondering if the voice calls are possibile on the AWS Band. just no data from what i understand.
Hi,
Mobilicity does not have a 2G GSM underlay network like Rogers or AT&T.
Mobilicity just runs straight 3G UMTS for both voice and data.
You need the AWS varient Streak for Mobilicity, even for just voice.
The only time Mobilicity uses GSM is if you are roaming outside the unlimited zone. Then your Mobilicity SIM card will connect you to Rogers' GSM network and you switch to prepaid service.
Sent from Vera, my Iconia A500; All dressed up going places!
gypsydigi said:
I am wondering if anyone knows if the dell streak will work on mobilicity with no data? just regular 2G. I have a regular GSM Dell streak and was wondering if the voice calls are possibile on the AWS Band. just no data from what i understand.
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im in ottawa and i have an aws streak that i use on mobilicity. i will most likely be selling it in the very near future in case u are at all interested. also have an hd2 that works on mobilicity that i will also be selling