Hey everyone,
I just wanted to help out those people out there who are getting terrible battery life with their G2's. I made this thread because all of the other threads that have a screenshot of someone getting about 14 hours of battery life have just the screenshot and no explanation of how they got this great battery life.
This is after quite a bit of usage (probably about 3 hours of internet browsing and about 1/2 hour of angry birds
Obviously this will only apply to you if you are rooted.
Step 1: Download and flash this kernel.
Step 2: Set SetCPU to this:
NOTE: If you go any farther than 960mhz then the cpu voltage will be raised, causing lower battery life. Everything below and including 960Mhz is the exact same voltage with this kernel so you won't get any improvement by lowing the cpu freq.
Step 3: Disable profiles. ALL profiles.
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DON'T USE TASK KILLERS. THEY DON'T WORK.
Hello? Did this help anyone?
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Thanks for this link! I'm trying this out as we speak. I was previously running the GODspeed 1.4 Overclock with ok battery life..so i'm curious to see how this works. I'll definately keep you updated!
I always have a "screen off" profile with the frequencies set to 245/500, and I get insane battery life. Went over 14 hours yesterday, and I still have 55% remaining when I plugged in. That was also on the stock CM kernel. I'm trying out the UV kernel right now.
ibemad1 said:
Hello? Did this help anyone?
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It's only been a few hours that this has been posted (and at least in the States, a Sat. morning). Just give it some time. Also, I think quite a few people are running this kind of set up already (based on the numerous discussions seen in the various rom and and kernel threads anyway), so they probably aren't inclined to reply/vote. Even if they weren't doing this, you probably can't expect any results from people for at least a day or two (unless their battery usage was really bad to begin with, they aren't going to know how much this helps until after the change has been in place for a while).
Just a heads up, Pershoot updated his kernel so that the voltages from 768-960 are now the same as at 979, so you might want to update the guide. Also, just wondering why you recommend the performance governor over on demand if you are looking to improve battery life? Won't the performance governor stay at the higher clock speeds for longer periods of time than on demand? Or did you think this was an acceptable tradeoff (as in things don't run as smoothly for you on on demand and you felt the extra power usage was negligible). Just curious. I had always run on demand or conservative for battery life, but conservative is no longer supported in the Pershoot kernel (and some times led to slight lag in my display turning on).
Also, I'm not positive on this since I don't use Sense roms, but I heard that because Pershoot's kernel was designed to run specifically on AOSP-based roms, it may cause problems with Sense ones. Might want to either put a warning in your guide or verify that this isn't the case.
Ok, I'm following this guide, just flashed the kernel, it took more to backup than to actually install the kernel, on CM6.1.1, will check in tomorrow if I see any improvement, because I used to get only about 6hrs of battery life as I was before.
I always have wifi all day at home since my carrier (Movistar Venezuela) does not have 1900/2100 frequencies.
Thanks for the information. Although it is common.
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It's only been a few hours that this has been posted (and at least in the States, a Sat. morning). Just give it some time. Also, I think quite a few people are running this kind of set up already (based on the numerous discussions seen in the various rom and and kernel threads anyway), so they probably aren't inclined to reply/vote. Even if they weren't doing this, you probably can't expect any results from people for at least a day or two (unless their battery usage was really bad to begin with, they aren't going to know how much this helps until after the change has been in place for a while).
Just a heads up, Pershoot updated his kernel so that the voltages from 768-960 are now the same as at 979, so you might want to update the guide. Also, just wondering why you recommend the performance governor over on demand if you are looking to improve battery life? Won't the performance governor stay at the higher clock speeds for longer periods of time than on demand? Or did you think this was an acceptable tradeoff (as in things don't run as smoothly for you on on demand and you felt the extra power usage was negligible). Just curious. I had always run on demand or conservative for battery life, but conservative is no longer supported in the Pershoot kernel (and some times led to slight lag in my display turning on).
Also, I'm not positive on this since I don't use Sense roms, but I heard that because Pershoot's kernel was designed to run specifically on AOSP-based roms, it may cause problems with Sense ones. Might want to either put a warning in your guide or verify that this isn't the case.
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Don't ask me why, but ondemand drains my battery like crazy compared to performance.
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Don't ask me why, but ondemand drains my battery like crazy compared to performance.
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I call BS on this. Performance is max frequency constantly while on demand is whatever is needed.
ahhh...another excellent finding after task kill. btw, task killer helps save the battery power a lot ,too....
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I call BS on this. Performance is max frequency constantly while on demand is whatever is needed.
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I'm just reporting what I found. Perhaps the ondemand governer is using more power because its constantly checking the cpu utilization?
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Here's some:
Use the stock charger. I believe the stock charger provides power at 5.5V (I'd have to check to know for sure), because that is the voltage the battery was designed for. A lower voltage could mean that your phone *thinks* it's charging at 5.5V and will stop charging when it *thinks* it's at 100%, while in reality it might only be at 80% or less. Higher voltages could wear out the battery faster but provide faster charging times.
Calibrate your battery. Roughly once a month, let your battery completely runs out (after it shuts down again, turn it on again until it's fully out), let it charge while off, and repeat at least once again. This may have a significant effect depending on how you use your phone
Turn off unneeded services while not in use. Having WiFi, Bluetooth, 3G, autosync, facebook sync, widgets, etc can harm battery. It is super simple to put toggles in your notification bar with either CM, MIUI, or Enom's roms that it is pretty much a painless way to dramatically improve your battery life. Facebook sync can be a huge waste too if you have it updating automatically, try instead refreshing it manually. Get rid of widgets that "seem" useful, but in reality just take up ram, download useless data, and take up space. I mean, I like to be able to know the temperature or whether I should bring a jacket, but do I really need the news to be right there in my face 24/7? Widgets like that would have to be constantly downloading data to be even be relevant, and IMO it is easier to just open an app. You can leave GPS on though, as the phone only activates it when necessary.
Update your radio to the latest available. This one is just common sense. The radio is basically the driver which your phone uses to connect to the cell tower, so wouldn't it make sense to have the newest, most efficient radio? I use the .02.17 radio and it is definitely better than the radio that came with the phone originally. Use Gfree before you switch because getting s-off with .02.17 is a pain in the butt.
Those are just some of the things I've realized with both my G2 and my G1 before it.
phonepart8 said:
ahhh...another excellent finding after task kill. btw, task killer helps save the battery power a lot ,too....
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No, task killers don't work at all on Android. Especially so after 2.2.
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Use the stock charger. I believe the stock charger provides power at 5.5V (I'd have to check to know for sure), because that is the voltage the battery was designed for. A lower voltage could mean that your phone *thinks* it's charging at 5.5V and will stop charging when it *thinks* it's at 100%, while in reality it might only be at 80% or less. Higher voltages could wear out the battery faster but provide faster charging times.
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I'll get out my multimeter later to test this.
However, I don't think that's true. It probably just figures out whether it's on a usb port or ac charger by seeing if there's power on the DATA lines inside the usb cable. iPod Touches and iPhones REQUIRE this power so they recognize it as a usb port, otherwise they WILL NOT charge. This explains why, if I plug in my G2 into a charger designed for an iPhone (same specs, 5V out at 1.0A) it will register as USB to the phone and will charge quite slowly.
Again, this is all going off assumptions. I'll put my thoughts up against my multimeter readings later. ^_^
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No, task killers don't work at all on Android. Especially so after 2.2.
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So yesterday morning I woke up at 9 am and went to ihop, I disconnected my phone from the charger at around 920 at 100% by the time it was 1040 ish I randomly looked at my phone and noticed my battery was at 33%?!?!?!? And I went crazy:O yet when I got home I charged it to around 83% disconnected at 730..then at 12 am when I got home I was barely at 61%?!?! Whatsoever the reason for this?!?!?!
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kingvaj23 said:
So yesterday morning I woke up at 9 am and went to ihop, I disconnected my phone from the charger at around 920 at 100% by the time it was 1040 ish I randomly looked at my phone and noticed my battery was at 33%?!?!?!? And I went crazy:O yet when I got home I charged it to around 83% disconnected at 730..then at 12 am when I got home I was barely at 61%?!?! Whatsoever the reason for this?!?!?!
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I had this very problem with my G2... it fixed itself like yours did. I think it was probably either skype or qik, as the problem went away after I uninstalled them. You might have had a hung up application running in the background.
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I suppose I'm one of those people who had no issues with their battery, but I recommend using a screen off profile for SetCPU. In doing so, I can effectively go almost a full two days on a single charge, but this is with minimal usage. Such as texting and browsing the web for only a few minutes.
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I just got about 9 hours of battery life with heavy use using this guide:
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Ive spent the last few days fiddling and testing stuff to increase battery life. Here is what i have learnt...
(Im running R2BA026)
Firstly, personally i do not want to lose any functionality/performance in order to gain battery life. I think that if you are going to spend the money to get a phone with awesome hardware it should be able to run at full whack.
This guide will not be useful to all, but hopefully it will be handy to those in my situation.
This is a guide for what i have found to be the best compromise between battery life and user experience, with the emphasis being on user experience.
My specific goals are:
- I do not want to lose any performance i.e cause any slowdown/choppiness.
- I am only looking for a 24h battery life as i can charge every night.
- I want to be able to use my phone without worrying about battery. Specifically I never want to think "i shouldnt do that it might run down my battery". I should be able to use all the features on my phone without questioning if i can afford to.
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In my experience using a task killer resulted in only minimal gains to battery life but it meant that opening up apps could be a lot slower and apps could be choppy just after opening them.
Additionally the idea of setCPU is a good one however when coming out of sleep or opening an app it takes a little while to get back up to speed. This also causes choppiness. Personally I find lag/choppiness a real pet peeve, it irritates me alot, so I do not use setCPU either. It is true that with careful set up the lag can be minimised but then the battery life gains are also minimal, so I choose to keep full performance and dispense with setCPU. Bear in mind that the hardware platform is already very efficient and well optimised so a software solution will pretty much be a straight trade of performance for battery life.
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With those two common options out of the way, what else can be done to save juice?
Well generally the biggest consumer of energy is the screen. The simplest option is just to turn it down to minimum brightness, but in my opinion that is not a good solution, its too nice a screen to have dimmed all the time. Thankfully the auto-brightness does a pretty good job of keeping the back light at a good level. It can be a bit disconcerting if you enable it when using full brightness as the drop can seem somewhat dramatic but don't let that put you off, give at 1/2 a day or so and you wont even notice.
Other easy but important things you can do are turning the screen timeout to minimum and always turning off the screen (power button) as soon as you are finished. They are tiny changes but really do make a big difference.
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Onto wifi...
I think there may be a bug with the firmware because if I disable wifi I get a HUGE increase in battery life when Im at home. I have good 3g coverage here and a 3GB allowance so I only need to turn on wifi when Im browsing the web or market, seeing as it takes seconds with the widget this option suits me fine.
I suspect that when the phone is connected to wifi it doesn't sleep properly so drains very fast.
Only turning on wifi when i want it made by far the biggest difference to me, and as it doesn't affect my user experience in any appreciable way I am happy to do it.
I think its a good idea to mention app/widget updates and refreshes here, personally i have all my widgets and apps set to refresh only once a day, that suits me fine because I can refresh them all manually very easily if I want to to be absolutely up to date and I'm not a twitter or facebook addict Most of my widgets are news/article based so once a day is perfect.
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GPS, again this is rather obvious, if you don't use it, turn it off. Personally i use latitude so I have it turned on all the time. Android seems very good about only using it when it is needed and the phone seems to get a fix very quickly so in reality it doesn't spend much of the day being active.
Same goes for bluetooth, although I don't use it so it stays off.
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Nothing i have said here is particularly revelatory mostly common sense but I have always had battery issues often with the battery lasting ~12 hours before asking to be charged.
Updating to 026 made a big difference and following these rules means my battery drains on average 2-2.5% an hour under normal use.
Normal use for me:
-Wifi Off
-GPS on (With latitude widget)
-Gtalk always running
-3 news widgets + timescape
-frequent texting
-moderate calls
-frequent fiddling
The phone is very very snappy, everything apart from timescape opens as near to instant as makes no odds, the phone is a pleasure to use. My battery life has comfortably doubled without the use of any apps or any loss of performance.
Mission Accomplished
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Cheers for that. Very interesting .
I definitely agree about the task killer apps, the OS does a perfect job at running itself!
One question, Am i correct in presuming you have 3g always running? Network mode set to GSM/WCDMA preferred? Ive been afraid to do this as i have it in my head that 3g eats up my battery for fun! I'll have to try it out.
Thanks again!
I bought an extended battery for my X10 the sloping sides stop it looking like a brick. The G1 always looked like a brick with an extended battery but the X10 sloping sides do serve a purpose.
helliewm said:
I bought an extended battery for my X10 the sloping sides stop it looking like a brick. The G1 always looked like a brick with an extended battery but the X10 sloping sides do serve a purpose.
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Cheers for that. Very interesting .
I definitely agree about the task killer apps, the OS does a perfect job at running itself!
One question, Am i correct in presuming you have 3g always running? Network mode set to GSM/WCDMA preferred? Ive been afraid to do this as i have it in my head that 3g eats up my battery for fun! I'll have to try it out.
Thanks again!
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Yep, thats correct With the 3g on it seems to stay in 2g when sleeping then switch to 3g when you wake it, you can see the change in the status bar about a second after waking. Pure speculation though ...
Well, let us know how you get on with 3g active all the time
helliewm said:
I bought an extended battery for my X10 the sloping sides stop it looking like a brick. The G1 always looked like a brick with an extended battery but the X10 sloping sides do serve a purpose.
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I love how slim the x10 is, that combined with the fact that the 3rd party backs are ugly and can be poor fitting mean an extended battery isnt really an option for me, whatever suits though ^^
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I prefer this:
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Nice one where i can get one.
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I certainly plan on getting a pair of bluetooth headphones, will be interesting to see how they affect battery life...
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Nice one where i can get one.
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It's from Sanyo. It's being released in Japan in October, but, I'm sure it will come out internationally as well.
James thanks u were helpful
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Some additional tips based on my personal experience:
-Using a third-party task launcher helps too. Some may not agree, but it works for me.
-Use a third-party digital clock widget instead of the stock one. Again, YMMV.
-Use a third-party(AGAIN!) MP3 player instead of Mediascape. I'm using Meridian, and notice an increase in battery life when playing MP3s.
I like having some control so I run task killer but there's no auto-kill enabled and if I know the phone is just going to turn it back on in 5min, I don't bother killing those apps. Maybe I should just remove it altogether, but it seems convenient to be able to kill an app at will (I do it with windows sometimes).
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-Use a third-party digital clock widget instead of the stock one. Again, YMMV.
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I think the reason why you find that the stock one drains your battery is due to the "use network provided values" being checked in the date and time settings.
Interesting article. I am running 024 and my battery is life is poor. I managed to get seven hours use yesterday after a full charge. My usage throughout the day wasn't anything too crazy. Where I work I get only a standard signal (no 3G). I seem to get a better battery life.
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I agree battery life is horrible. It makes me really miss my blackberry.
Even when battery life is low, charging it takes FOREVER, not to mention if you plug it in and play with it at the same time, it charges even slower.
My Blackberry Tour charged fully in what seemed like 45 mins from less than 10% batt life. I know they are different phones, but it just really sucks to me.
I'm debating going back to a blackberry now. The X10 and other android phones (and Iphone), are more toys than anything else.
/end rant.
hehe sorry
Thats odd, my phone charges pretty damn fast, just a few days ago i was pleasantly surprised that it charged from completely empty (id forgotten to charge it) to ~80% in less than an hour.
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Even when battery life is low, charging it takes FOREVER, not to mention if you plug it in and play with it at the same time, it charges even slower.
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Hmm, mine charges from <10% to 100% within 1 - 2 hours.
Make sure you are charging by AC, charging by USB does indeed take forever.
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Hmm, mine charges from <10% to 100% within 1 - 2 hours.
Make sure you are charging by AC, charging by USB does indeed take forever.
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Yeah I agree by USB takes forever.
JamesBarnes said:
Additionally the idea of setCPU is a good one however when coming out of sleep or opening an app it takes a little while to get back up to speed. This also causes choppiness. Personally I find lag/choppiness a real pet peeve, it irritates me alot, so I do not use setCPU either. It is true that with careful set up the lag can be minimised but then the battery life gains are also minimal, so I choose to keep full performance and dispense with setCPU. Bear in mind that the hardware platform is already very efficient and well optimised so a software solution will pretty much be a straight trade of performance for battery life.
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Quite interesting for me, I decided to add some statistical experiment about it.
Under my situation and environment. (I won't go in detail, sorry about that)
With SetCPU were 2.32% per hour without any usage.
W/O SetCPU were 3.18% per hour without any usage.
or approximately 7% maximum saving per day time. (for me)
My SetCPU only effected sleep state.
Not a big deal but still significant different, but it could survive for whole day anyhow.
I'm more interested about Killing app. I might try after this as I see many argument about it.
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Quite interesting for me, I decided to add some statistical experiment about it.
Under my situation and environment. (I won't go in detail, sorry about that)
With SetCPU were 2.32% per hour without any usage.
W/O SetCPU were 3.18% per hour without any usage.
or approximately 7% maximum saving per day time. (for me)
My SetCPU only effected sleep state.
Not a big deal but still significant different, but it could survive for whole day anyhow.
I'm more interested about Killing app. I might try after this as I see many argument about it.
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Ohh figures, good stuff! Always better to have some numbers to work with.
Do you not find that for a few seconds after waking up the phone gets choppy?
I would definitely be interested in seeing the stats with a task killer
Do you guys leave internet/gps on or something? I get 3 hours/percent on idle.
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Ohh figures, good stuff! Always better to have some numbers to work with.
Do you not find that for a few seconds after waking up the phone gets choppy?
I would definitely be interested in seeing the stats with a task killer
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Yup, with SetCPU for sleep state, it was 'choppy' for a few sec, mostly effect lock screen and screen switching.
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Stock everything. Using SetCPU and Autostarts to manage things.
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Stock everything. Using SetCPU and Autostarts to manage things.
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Can u share your settings on setcpu.
sent from my el mero, mero chingon evo.
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Can u share your settings on setcpu.
sent from my el mero, mero chingon evo.
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Interactive governor with min and max frequency bars all the way down/up. The only profile I use is Screen Off, conservative governor, and freq bars all the way down.
What sort of Quadrant scores are you pulling with CM 6.1 RC1? I just installed it yesterday and hit a 1675 today. I haven't isntalled SetCPU yet. i am going to let it work it's magic for a few days and see what it can do.
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What sort of Quadrant scores are you pulling with CM 6.1 RC1? I just installed it yesterday and hit a 1675 today. I haven't isntalled SetCPU yet. i am going to let it work it's magic for a few days and see what it can do.
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Just ran it and got a 1417. I've never been obsessed with benchmarks, so it doesn't really bother me. The phone is fast as ****, and that's all that matters to me.
I plan to test the battery life tomorrow at work. I have been mostly at home this weekend so I have had a charger around.
I was also having amaaazing battery life with this kernal, I am in love and am just waiting the days till 6.1.1 comese out with our hdmi and 4g support!!!!
Im gonna check out that bfs kernal from bnice now, if it helps make it better than ooohh myyy.
I'm hesitant to try anything else with results like this. If it isn't broke...
My question is how stable is it? And you didn't underclock it at all except for screen off? I seem to be getting worse battery life than I did with Fresh but CM Evo always seemed to have a brighter screen than fresh which is what I attribute that to. I can't go back to Sense right now though. Loving CM6.1.
I agree on the battery life being great....
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My question is how stable is it? And you didn't underclock it at all except for screen off? I seem to be getting worse battery life than I did with Fresh but CM Evo always seemed to have a brighter screen than fresh which is what I attribute that to. I can't go back to Sense right now though. Loving CM6.1.
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What do you mean by "how stable?" Also, make sure you wipe your battery stats and let the battery drain all the way. You can control your brightness by changing it... I leave mine on auto-brightness, which is actually a battery hog compared to stable brightness.
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What do you mean by "how stable?" Also, make sure you wipe your battery stats and let the battery drain all the way. You can control your brightness by changing it... I leave mine on auto-brightness, which is actually a battery hog compared to stable brightness.
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By how stable I mean does it crash or randomly reboot? CM6 doesn't ever do that to me unless I use SetCPU so I want to make sure that doesnt happen with your settings. Good call on the battery drain and battery stats. Forgot to do that. So wait, leaving it on a stable brightness setting uses less battery life than auto? Are you talking about half way up the scale or full blast?
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By how stable I mean does it crash or randomly reboot? CM6 doesn't ever do that to me unless I use SetCPU so I want to make sure that doesnt happen with your settings. Good call on the battery drain and battery stats. Forgot to do that. So wait, leaving it on a stable brightness setting uses less battery life than auto? Are you talking about half way up the scale or full blast?
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I never get any random crashes or anything. The stock kernel doesn't OC enough to cause stability issues there.
A stable brightness of like 50% uses less battery than auto because it isn't constantly checking what the brightness should be then adjusting it. Not sure about full-power, but I'd assume it is a little more wasteful than auto.
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I never get any random crashes or anything. The stock kernel doesn't OC enough to cause stability issues there.
A stable brightness of like 50% uses less battery than auto because it isn't constantly checking what the brightness should be then adjusting it. Not sure about full-power, but I'd assume it is a little more wasteful than auto.
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Good point on the brightness. Ok so I set 50% brightness and screen off to the lowest settings in SetCPU. Let's see if this gives better battery life. Aside from the dialer being slow when I recieve a phone call (I hear the ringtone but the screen doesnt turn on for like 2-3 secs after it starts ringing) it actually seems faster with this interactive governor.
Interesting you're getting that kind of performance without using jd, impressive.
I got 36 hours recently, no setcpu, just ultimate juice and autostarts.
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Interesting you're getting that kind of performance without using jd, impressive.
I got 36 hours recently, no setcpu, just ultimate juice and autostarts.
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UltimateJuice always slowed my phone down to a crawl and burned though battery like crazy. Totally worthless.
i just cant see buying a 4G phone, paying an extra $10/month for it as well, and then put a rom on it that doesnt have 4G...... JMO
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i just cant see buying a 4G phone, paying an extra $10/month for it as well, and then put a rom on it that doesnt have 4G...... JMO
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Well... 4G does nothing but suck battery like water in exchange for a marginal speed increase, and I'm usually almost always on wifi, which is faster than 4G by a mile. Sooooo....
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Well... 4G does nothing but suck battery like water in exchange for a marginal speed increase, and I'm usually almost always on wifi, which is faster than 4G by a mile. Sooooo....
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well i stay on the move, i dont know of any statewide free wifi, so 3g/4g come in handy
plus faster is faster, that much less time to download files n such
and i have a 3500mah ext battery so mainly i have to charge at night when i sleep,so i keep 4g,bluetooth,GPS on all the time, and use my phone for the smartphone it is.......
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well i stay on the move, i dont know of any statewide free wifi, so 3g/4g come in handy
plus faster is faster, that much less time to download files n such
and i have a 3500mah ext battery so mainly i have to charge at night when i sleep,so i keep 4g,bluetooth,GPS on all the time, and use my phone for the smartphone it is.......
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Not everyone lives in a 4g area, why stay with a slower, less functional rom just so you can keep a 4g toggle available for the 4g you don't have?
I was actually taking a trip last weekend to an area with 4g so I switched roms to one that had 4g as an option, besides the fact that it is easy to switch roms in situations like that, I never ended up using the 4g.
Maybe its because the phone isn't glued to my hand, I use it to look up some things, play some games, make some phone calls, find addresses, but it isn't a permanent implant on my hand, I put it down when I'm not using it. Besides, it turns out that I'm on wifi 90% of the time, even at random places around the city.
I don't torrent with my phone, and I don't hang out downtown just to sit on a street corner and stream hd youtube or hulu. Apps like urbanspoon that I use a lot in new areas don't require heavy downloads.
Yes, the option would be better then not having the option, but CM will have 4g soon enough, for the 10 mins a month I might use it.
I am using ava z3 and caulkins modded(uv and sdfix) HTC 15 kernel.
I only get about 11-12 hours of battery life with moderate to light usage (20 mins of phone, 25 or so texts and maybe 25 minutes of total web browsing)
I see all these posts of people having battery life lasting 20+ hours...
I have setcpu drop my clock when screen is off, random advanced task killer taps, autosync off, gps off, Bluetooth off, and only use 3g all day. Anyone have any combos that I could try or possibly some tips to get my bat life higher?
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MIUI + BCblend. I'm sitting at 36 hours and still have 47% on my battery.
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MIUI + BCblend. I'm sitting at 36 hours and still have 47% on my battery.
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What's your display on time?
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What's your display on time?
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No clue, MIUI doesn't give the awake vs. uptime like a sense rom does. It was with moderate use, maybe 30-40 texts, a bit of browsing, maybe 30 minutes of mini squadron and a few short phone calls.
Myn's Warm 2.2 RLS5 with netarchy-4.3.2-cfs-nosbc-havs-more has done wonders for my evo. I use SetCPU and set the govenor to smartass, have one profile for screen off (384max, 128min smartass). I can get about 7 hours of uptime(20 hours of total up time= that averages to 21 minutes of use every hour...) with 1.5 hours of that being phone calls, about 50 texts a day, checking 3 e-mail accounts (gmail's push) and reading my hundreds of RSS feeds with NewsRob.
The only other time i got similar results was with Warm 2.2 RLS4, HTC kernel #17, and some very aggressive SetCPU profiles. and similar usage.
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No clue, MIUI doesn't give the awake vs. uptime like a sense rom does. It was with moderate use, maybe 30-40 texts, a bit of browsing, maybe 30 minutes of mini squadron and a few short phone calls.
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well if you look at the power usage you can click display and it'll show how long your display was on.
what brightness do you set yours at and do you use a stock battery
i have a 003 evo and i find myns rls4 & netarchy 4.2.2 less havs/no sbc the best in battery life & speed.
where do u check this 003 thing? and i have miui 1/21 zendroid kernel about 15 hours so far at 72% wifi on all day 50-60 texts and probably an hour of fb hahaha
To check what hardware go to settings-about phone-hardware info
Also, is anyone using aftermarket batteries or stock batteries for these impressive battery lives?
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To check what hardware go to settings-about phone-hardware info
Also, is anyone using aftermarket batteries or stock batteries for these impressive battery lives?
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im feeling pretty stupid right now haha i cant see it. Im running miui rom and i go to about phone>more info but i dont see it
Ahh in ava z3 its similar to stock where settings-about phone has software/hardware infos... I wish I could tell you how to find out because I have been getting the feeling the way hardware reacts to Rom and kernels is a big deal. My buddy has hw:004 running same Rom and kernel and gets about double the battery life
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Ok so ive been changing different kernels just to see if i can get different results. Now im using KingKlicks #12 w/ myns rls5. I use my phone alot & am just looking for SOMETHING that will help my battery life.
So the other day i was in this super retardly long useless meeting. Less than 10 texts, no internet, no apps no nothing. 4g, GPS, Wifi & bluetooth all off. Granted that isnt my regular useage (I really use my phone) but this is the best battery life i could get. (SetCpu on w/ a helluva lotta profiles)
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Whaddya think? What other kernels can use that are made for heavy usage? What else can i tweak....or am i just doomed to carrying a charger everywhere i go??
+1 for a netarchy 4.3.x kernel:
I'm on the original red battery
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Ahh in ava z3 its similar to stock where settings-about phone has software/hardware infos... I wish I could tell you how to find out because I have been getting the feeling the way hardware reacts to Rom and kernels is a big deal. My buddy has hw:004 running same Rom and kernel and gets about double the battery life
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I've been thinking the same thing I've got a day 1 evo with hardware :v002 and some of the stock kernels worked better im currently trying the modded HTC #15 but battery life is not great with regular use
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+1 for a netarchy 4.3.x kernel:
I'm on the original red battery
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3 days??? wait wait...either thats photoshop or you've got a different phone than me!!! In any event im flashing netarchy as soon as i finish typing this!!!
Do you use your phone? Like heavy useage? Or is that 3 days with absolute minamal useage?? 4g, wifi, gps & everything else off??
The question is, what is the definition of best battery life... How long the battery will last with the phone doing nothing? If so, I can get a good 4-5 days using the setup in my sig with just a minimum of texts, calls, and emails, while on wifi.
However, actual practical usage, including 3g, 4g, web, text, calls, etc. Results in a good 1-2 days of battery life. I think once a user has all the bugs (rogue apps that are causing wakelock issues) worked out, that user should focus on optimizing the system for best results for the way THEY use THEIR phone, not the way someone else uses theirs.
^^Agreed i am trying to find the best fit for the way "I" use it however suggestions are welcome. BTW you get 4-5 days 'cause you've got the extended batt. I wanna squeeze every last drop of juice out of my stock battery!! If you can help me there then by all means...please do!!!
Edit: side bar i just flashed netarchy's 4.3.2 cfs-nosbc-havs-more-universal and everythings fine but when i plug my charger in AC or USB it throws my phone into a boot loop....Any ideas?? Btw yes i am gonna find the netarchy thread and ask in there as well.
What's the best one for Myns Rls 5 ?
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The question is, what is the definition of best battery life... How long the battery will last with the phone doing nothing? If so, I can get a good 4-5 days using the setup in my sig with just a minimum of texts, calls, and emails, while on wifi.
However, actual practical usage, including 3g, 4g, web, text, calls, etc. Results in a good 1-2 days of battery life. I think once a user has all the bugs (rogue apps that are causing wakelock issues) worked out, that user should focus on optimizing the system for best results for the way THEY use THEIR phone, not the way someone else uses theirs.
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What's the best way to find the wake lock issues, are you referring to maps, voice, or other random apps running in the background? If so what is the best way to keep these apps but put an end to the wakelock issue.
I am still running ava z3 but I flashed the netarchy 4.3.2 cfs-nosbc-havs-more this morning, downgraded my pri and nv because netarchy said to for battery issues, gave it a full charge from 0, and my battery was garbage... 5-6 hours with a moderate use. Calks modded htc 15 w/ uv and sdfix worked way better, but still can't find these magic 20 hour battery lives that I am dying for.
Reflashed the new pri, nv, and Calks modded 15 and my hunt continues, about to give myns a whirl despite liking ava z3 a lot.
How simple is myns, bloatware gone, fairly simplistic, pretty snappy and lag free? Difference between rl 4 and rl 5?
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Use the battery history function in Spareparts to see what's causing wakelock. As for ways of dealing with it, that's up to the developer.
I don't have too many apps on my phone, just the necessities. Of the main apps I use, k9 and handcent both had issues.
With k9, any time I'd receive an email (using imap), the phone would stay wake locked for 60 seconds. This may not seem like a lot, but after getting many messages throughout the day, that could add up to an hour or more. I experienced this both with fresh 3.5.0.1 and evio2 1.75. When Evio2 1.7.7 came out, I was hesitant to switch - I'm not one that flashes roms every other day just for the hell of it. I already had the phone set up and configured. Decided to give it one more shot, I installed 1.7.7 from scratch and started reinstalling apps.
Through out the process, I was very careful to monitor wakelock state. For what ever reason, k9 was no longer causing wake lock. Something in 1.7.7 changed. It wasn't kernel related because I've tried way too many kernels with similar results. So now, the only wake lock is when the program actually receives an email. Usually 1-3 seconds per email received.
Now with handcent, there is a known issue if the popup function is enabled. Anytime a text is received, with popups enabled, the phone enters a wakelock state until that text is acknowledged. This occurs even if the only popup task is to display the text, and NOT turn the screen on, or flash the led. The fix? Disable popups in handcent. I've posted on their forums, but haven't gotten any acknowledgment. I'll continue to use the program, but without this functionality.
For other programs, best bet it to try to narrow down the conditions causing wakelock and either work around them, or work with the author to try to resolve.
Any as for stand by time, I'm sure even with a standard battery, 4 days is possible if the phone is idling the whole time with data turned off, and minimal or no other usage.
As for kernels, there are other factors at play besides the kernel itself. These include the governor in use and its parameters. Two otherwise identical phones with the same kernel and governors, but different governor parameters will result in different battery life.
In the end, I chose to stick with the conservative governor.
These are the governor parameters I changed in the init.d folder
Filename: 01cpufreq_screenstate_scaling
Code:
MAX_CPU_SPEED_VDD="921600"
MIN_CPU_SPEED_VDD="245000"
#MIN_CPU_SPEED_VDD="384000" DEFAULT
#MAX_CPU_SPEED_VDD="921600" DEFAULT
CONSERVATIVE_SAMPLING_RATE="50000"
CONSERVATIVE_UP_THRESHOLD="80"
CONSERVATIVE_DOWN_THRESHOLD="55"
CONSERVATIVE_FREQ_STEP="10"
#CONSERVATIVE_UP_THRESHOLD="65" DEFAULT
#CONSERVATIVE_DOWN_THRESHOLD="35" DEFAULT
#CONSERVATIVE_FREQ_STEP="15" DEFAULT
These settings were not arrived at trivially, but were changed slightly one at a time, then tested by using the phone. I was looking for decent response/user experience. I was also trying to get the phone to utilize a larger range of cpu speeds than originally programmed into the ROM/kernel. Google the different parameters to understand what they're referring to.
Edit: I'm also using the -100mV undervolt script as opposed to -50mV that the rom originally comes with.
Hey guys. Battery life honestly, is the most important thing when owning a smartphone. Everyone gets different battery life apparently. Some are great!! Some are.. well..
Anyways, my whole point of making this thread is so that we can discuss our various battery lifes. See who has the best. Who has the worst. And why we have such differences! Maybe we can make solutions and we can all have great battery life.
Please include what ROM your running, what kernel, if your overclocked, and little things you might find suitable to add.
For example this is for me:
I'm running Acer liquid ROM 1.1 with pershoots latest .32 kernel. I can get maybe 8 hours out of my battery with extreme mild use. I'm currently trying to recalibrate my battery with the help of bongz ( thank you so much!) I have my screen usually dim, nothing syncing from what I know of, bluetooth never on, gps never on, wifi only at home.
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I'm running GingerVillan 1.5.
Battery life on standby is great - probably around 1-2% an hour. However, when I start using the phone, that drains QUICK. Generally I get around 12-14 hours out of a full charge with mild usage, including Phone Calls, Texts, 1-2 rounds of Words with friends, etc. WiFi is always off, bluetooth is off, GPS on. Stock kernel, newest radio near as I remember. Facebook and Google are the only two accounts.
I previously had a Vibrant that seemingly got better life - with mild use I could easily get 18-20 hours. However, having a keyboard and working GPS is worth the charge every night. The G2 could have gotten a couple hundred more mAh battery, if you ask me.
im running cm7 nightlies
my battery life is pretty good when not on. maybe 1% every 2-3 hours when off and in my pocket(set to absolute minimum via setcpu). with mild to extreme use i get ok battery life of about 4 hrs (starting at 80% usualy). im overcloacked to 1.8ghz ut have it set via setcpu to max out at 1.1ghz. i have gps always off, wifi always off, brighness to auto, and bluetooth off.
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I'm running GingerVillan 1.5.
Battery life on standby is great - probably around 1-2% an hour. However, when I start using the phone, that drains QUICK. Generally I get around 12-14 hours out of a full charge with mild usage, including Phone Calls, Texts, 1-2 rounds of Words with friends, etc. WiFi is always off, bluetooth is off, GPS on. Stock kernel, newest radio near as I remember. Facebook and Google are the only two accounts.
I previously had a Vibrant that seemingly got better life - with mild use I could easily get 18-20 hours. However, having a keyboard and working GPS is worth the charge every night. The G2 could have gotten a couple hundred more mAh battery, if you ask me.
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Hm, I might consider upgrading radios. A lot of people are getting great battery life because of it.. will se.
I have never got more than 8 hours with my vision ever. Maybe because I have the old radio?
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Hey,
I think there are too many variables at play here for this to be any use, but here is what I am running.
ROM: Virtuous 1.0.1, OCed to 1GHz using Virtuous Standard 2.1.2 Kernel
Radio: 12.18b.60.140eP_26.03.02.26_M
Build: 1.85
Brightness: Auto
Sync: Google, Facebook, Weather
Wifi: On at home, school; Off all other times
BT: OFF
Data: Always ON
Usage per day: 50-100 texts, 3-5 voice calls, 1-3hours of data/games
Current battery level including standby time and usage time is 57% after 6h 50m.
Good luck on the analysis!
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im running cm7 nightlies
my battery life is pretty good when not on. maybe 1% every 2-3 hours when off and in my pocket(set to absolute minimum via setcpu). with mild to extreme use i get ok battery life of about 4 hrs (starting at 80% usualy). im overcloacked to 1.8ghz ut have it set via setcpu to max out at 1.1ghz. i have gps always off, wifi always off, brighness to auto, and bluetooth off.
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Your oc'd that high lol? WHY?
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Sorry, but battery life threads/posts are always such a joke. So many things effect the battery life that it really isn't as easy as just posting your ROM and Kernel and call it a day. Every single setting in your settings menu, every app you run or have installed, screen on/awake time, BT/GPS/wifi/3g/4g connections, and even just general areas that you use your phone pertaining to their signal strength can effect what your battery life is. Unfortunately, there really is no way to figure out what the "best" battery lives are. It really takes your personal preferences and some of your own tinkering in order to get your configuration just right. You can go into any given custom ROM thread and find someone claiming 30hrs of battery life.
Sorry to be a downer. I (personally) just get really tired of people posting battery life screen shots because there are an extreme number of variables that affect it. I think it gives people false hope of looking to switch to a completely new ROM or change huge numbers of things and expecting to double their battery life.
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Sorry, but battery life threads/posts are always such a joke. So many things effect the battery life that it really isn't as easy as just posting your ROM and Kernel and call it a day. Every single setting in your settings menu, every app you run or have installed, screen on/awake time, BT/GPS/wifi/3g/4g connections, and even just general areas that you use your phone pertaining to their signal strength can effect what your battery life is. Unfortunately, there really is no way to figure out what the "best" battery lives are. It really takes your personal preferences and some of your own tinkering in order to get your configuration just right. You can go into any given custom ROM thread and find someone claiming 30hrs of battery life.
Sorry to be a downer. I (personally) just get really tired of people posting battery life screen shots because there are an extreme number of variables that affect it. I think it gives people false hope of looking to switch to a completely new ROM or change huge numbers of things and expecting to double their battery life.
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Well said and true that.
CM7 nightlies, new radio (forget which one), after 19 hours still at 74%. Mild usage, few texts, twitter, email, updating apps, etc. And I always use wifi whenever possible, and then edge only when I'm out or not in a wifi area.
cm7 latest nightly #14 , latest radio , pershoot's kernel i can go 4,5 hours screen time on , no problem with constant edge connection on..extremely happy..
oh.. oc @ 1ghz no profiles
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CM7 nightlies, new radio (forget which one), after 19 hours still at 74%. Mild usage, few texts, twitter, email, updating apps, etc. And I always use wifi whenever possible, and then edge only when I'm out or not in a wifi area.
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Can you go to about phone and check your radio?
Fellas hear this, with 2G constantly on only, the radio is using 47 percent of the battery. Do you guys find this normal at ALL? I'm running CM7 now with latest pershoot kernel and this damned .27 Radio which I am seriously considering removing for good.
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Can you go to about phone and check your radio?
Fellas hear this, with 2G constantly on only, the radio is using 47 percent of the battery. Do you guys find this normal at ALL? I'm running CM7 now with latest pershoot kernel and this damned .27 Radio which I am seriously considering removing for good.
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12.28h.60.140fU_26.06.02.27_M
It's that Hutch one from Australia or something. This one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959488
I just noticed that the battery life of my DesireZ is greatly dependant on where I am.... I have vacation now and I was mostly at home for the past three days the battery was still about 40% charged this morning so after 2 full days with moderate use, reading an Ebook, playing a game, wifi constantly on, exchange mail on Push and Gmail on push, with standard rom.
when I am at school the battery is often almost empty at about 5 pm...
maybe because of the bad coverage at school?
I don't know if anyone else really noticed, I seen it mentioned in another thread but not enough, if you don't use the wifi calling app, DELETE IT! I have noticed much better performance and battery life after getting of that ****
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Can some one tell me their usage with 4g on all day and moderate use?
Ive begun to get lazy turning 4g off so lately im getting 10-14 hours usage before the battery is dead not using wifi at all ( work days no wifi at work). moderate use maybe 20 mins calling 20-30 text up to 45 min facebooking. nothing too much,
On nightly #29 no pershoot since i am lazy to update to newest nightly and newest pershoot only works after #30 and overclocked to 1.2ghz
I still don't get why people care about battery so much with g2. I got 2 extra battery and an external wall charger all for 10 bucks on ebay. why not use android to its full potential without ever worrying about battery for $10?
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I still don't get why people care about battery so much with g2. I got 2 extra battery and an external wall charger all for 10 bucks on ebay. why not use android to its full potential without ever worrying about battery for $10?
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It's a hassle to take off the case (in my case an Otterbox) every time to swap the battery out. Added with the looser hinge, you might accidentally snap something that you don't want to. Would rather have one big battery than multiple smaller ones.
Understood. I don't ever use protection covers. Didnt even know tHere are the kind of cases not interfering with keyboard pullout...
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I want the Mugen battery, my G2 has been quite crap battery life for the past while, I wonder how much this one will help
No complaints here.
Just thought I would throw down my stats as well:
I can usually eke out a good two or three days from my G2. Some things of note: I'm on Wi-Fi with UMA at home, T-Mobile's home network (EDGE) when I'm in the town in which I live, but as soon as I leave town and head towards my place of work, I roam on EDGE all night (with roaming data always turned on) until I get back home. I don't think I've even seen the 3G or H indicators light up on this thing. Got to love the rural life. I leave Wi-Fi always on, in case I find new networks, I leave GPS always enabled, since it really only activates on Google's home page anyways, I use the 30% brightness setting that is the default 'low' setting via the HTC brightness widget, and Auto-Sync is always enabled (Facebook, HTC (weather once per hour), Google). I use the default 1 minute screen timeout, and I use the lockscreen that comes with Poweramp (which I use to listen to music on my drive to and from work via an FM transmitter.)
The capture below shows 2d 14h 2m 30s since being unplugged, at 7% remaining. I use Virtuous 1.0.1 with the stock HTC kernel and the stock T-MoUS radio. I am also using the stock HTC battery that the phone shipped with. I don't feel the need to overclock, as my last phone was a BB Pearl, so this thing is light years faster already.
The only time I really eat up my battery is when I play Wordsmith, because I'm always staring at the lit screen trying to make fancy words.
And while you're right, there are way too many variables when it comes to battery life and usage and signal strength and what have you, it amazes me just the same that others are fine with 8 hours of battery life and choose to carry around extra batteries. Sure, you have a mobile Linux box in your pocket (awesome!), but that's also why I keep a desktop PC at home. To each their own, though, no harm no foul.
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Hello, I am a happy owner of the DHD.
It 'a great phone, but as you know, the only drawback is battery life.
I've tried several (few) ROM so far, and one with which I am slightly better is the RCMIX.
Now with this post does not go into details about what set, how to optimize (Sync off, energy saving displays, etc. ...) but I ask all your experience based on the ROM that you have installed:
1 - how to use the terminal?
2 - how long you last on a full charge and use it to do?
3 - What kind of ROM you use?
Thanks to all. I think it will be useful for someone like me, prefer a long battery life rather than three thousand graphicals functions
cubases said:
1 - how to use the terminal?
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what !?!? which terminal do u mean ?
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2 - how long you last on a full charge and use it to do?
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With normal usage (some SMS, about 30 minutes surfing and emailing during the day, 30 minutes music listening and wifi turned on all day) my Phone lives mostly a full working day. When i come home from work (mostly 8 to 9 hours) i still have 20 % left...
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I'm using RCmix3D Runny 1.3 with Revolution Theme . My phone is overclocked with setCPU to 1,45GHz and the Batterylife is optimized with a good profile set from setCPU (downclocking when display is off...and so on...)
m0rbus said:
what !?!? which terminal do u mean ?
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Sorry... it mean: phone.... smartphone
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Batterylife is optimized with a good profile set from setCPU
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sorry but.. batterylife is an app?
Battery life... it's been quite heavily documented on the DHD fora, but here we go:
1500mah is not enough for a huge screen, especially if you want to use the phone's capabilities. The versatility of this phone means you'll want to be browsing, doing emails, playing processor heavy games etc. Each to his own
So, limit the stuff you sync (mail/facebook, news, weather), or at least reduce the frequency. These things cause "partial wake locks", which stop the phone falling into a deep sleep, after which battery consumption is minimal. Watch out for wifi settings too. Search for BetterBatteryStats (by chamonix) on the Android Apps section of the xda forum for much more detail, and tips.
You should be able to get to the end of the day with a good ROM (eg Leedroid/Revolution - they are very popular, but the threads are immense, which makes looking for information difficult). These ROMs have over/underclocking built in (governors), and you can also undervolt (theoretically reduces consumption too).
Limit transitions, be reasonable with screen brightness etc.
And if all else fails, and you use the phone intensively and can't get to the end of the day, you could invest in a power pack (search Amazon for the New Trent 5000mah power pack, which costs less than €30)
my DHD lasts around 4 hrs continuous screen on, much longer screen off. IMO, LM based roms have the best battery life.
But you could always get cheap $3 batteries for the Desire HD off ebay.
Battery life on my DHD was very bad before i rooted it. I am now running RCMix3D Runny V1.3 and my battery has lasted over 30 hours with alot of use.
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sorry but.. batterylife is an app?
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lol no....Battery life means how long the battery lasts... thats all. No app.
whistle81 said:
Battery life on my DHD was very bad before i rooted it. I am now running RCMix3D Runny V1.3 and my battery has lasted over 30 hours with alot of use.
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indeed! I can not believe it!... with a lot of use....????!!!!!!!
Your kernel? Radio? Ril?
with m0rbus called "normal usage" my phone lasts around 48h. using my rom and lordmod 7.2 cfs and my personal governor/undervolt settings.
edit: though this result is not really specific to MY miui rom. one should be able to achieve these results with that kernel and settings on every aosp rom.
edit2: with "my normal usage" it last around 24-30h. this includes gameing, emailing, testing settings for developing my rom, rebooting etc.
I've used alot of roms most of the sense ones seem to use about the same battery life better than stock (they get me through work stock needed charged at lunch) but for a week now I've been using miui I've been home about an hour played about 15 min of angry birds, watched a few min on youtube and surfed on xda for a bit and I just over 40% i think that's pretty good going.
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cubases said:
Hello, I am a happy owner of the DHD.
It 'a great phone, but as you know, the only drawback is battery life.
I've tried several (few) ROM so far, and one with which I am slightly better is the RCMIX.
Now with this post does not go into details about what set, how to optimize (Sync off, energy saving displays, etc. ...) but I ask all your experience based on the ROM that you have installed:
1 - how to use the terminal?
2 - how long you last on a full charge and use it to do?
3 - What kind of ROM you use?
Thanks to all. I think it will be useful for someone like me, prefer a long battery life rather than three thousand graphicals functions
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Hi, I upgrade the ROM from the group Android Revolution, and my internet I put on 2G and work with WI-FI, GPS and SYNC ON. My battery life is working about 1,5 day.
Before I upgrade I use a Super-Wire patch from ARHD, I think this patch get this performace.
PS.: Sorry My English. I´m Brazilian.
I dunno guys.. I think all that is your subjective feeling and that ROM has no effect whatsoever on battery. Maybe small, but unnoticable. You never do things exactly the same or have battery charged exactly the same. In order to prove ROM has effect on battery usage you would have to make lab tests, i.e. make conditions the same. Moreover, if you look at the statistics of battery usage, it is clear that the most battery goes on SCREEN. And then GPS. Everything else is just a couple of %. All the talk of turning off wifi/3G to conserve power is simply not true. Just look at the statistics! Wifi takes like 2-3% of the power used, tops! The screen with it's 40%-70% is the problem, and there is no way to reduce that...
dalanik said:
The screen with it's 40%-70% is the problem, and there is no way to reduce that...
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exactly....
You could always try to lower auto brightness levels by way of a flashable patch. I found that after doing this the screen was only using between 30-40% of the battery. Even so, it is the screen that always uses the majority of the battery. All the tips regarding decreasing battery by switching off syncing, wifi, widgets, etc are in my opinion a bit misleading. If you have a good radio and corresponding RIL then this will vastly reduce battery consumption whilst still being able to sync emails, widgets, etc with the wifi on. I recommend Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and it's matching HTC-RIL 2.2.0160HM. I'm currently on Orange in the UK and this combo works best for me across several different ROMs.
michael_duvalle said:
You could always try to lower auto brightness levels by way of a flashable patch.
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where could I found it?
If you have a good radio and corresponding RIL then this will vastly reduce battery consumption whilst still being able to sync emails, widgets, etc with the wifi on. I recommend Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2 and it's matching HTC-RIL 2.2.0160HM. I'm currently on Orange in the UK and this combo works best for me across several different ROMs.
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I have the same your radio/ril.
cubases said:
where could I found it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034743
Also, dependant on what ROM you're using you might find it within the development section post relating to your ROM. I'm using Virtuous Unity 2.37 and within the post there's a flashable lower auto brightness patch.
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dalanik said:
I dunno guys.. I think all that is your subjective feeling and that ROM has no effect whatsoever on battery. Maybe small, but unnoticable. You never do things exactly the same or have battery charged exactly the same. In order to prove ROM has effect on battery usage you would have to make lab tests, i.e. make conditions the same. Moreover, if you look at the statistics of battery usage, it is clear that the most battery goes on SCREEN. And then GPS. Everything else is just a couple of %. All the talk of turning off wifi/3G to conserve power is simply not true. Just look at the statistics! Wifi takes like 2-3% of the power used, tops! The screen with it's 40%-70% is the problem, and there is no way to reduce that...
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Yes and no.
If you are using the device, you can limit transitions, underclock the processor (via a custom ROM), flash a patch to modify the brightness as mentioned below. That definitely will help reduce consumption while in use.
However, and this is not collected in the Battery Usage option in Settings, Partial Wakelocks are the main contributor to battery consumption. When the phone is inactive, it should be asleep as much as possible - applications like Phone, Mail, Latitude, alarms etc wake it up for either scheduled or ad-hoc events. If you install BetterBatteryStats you will see which processes are keeping your phone awake & hence in a higher state of battery consumption.
Oh, do NOT buy cheap ebay batteries. They lie about their capacity. The only battery which offers more capacity than the OEM one, is Mugen (search in the Accessories forum), it's 1500mah. That extra power could make the difference in making it to the end of the day, but it costs about $45 I think.
You think this behaviour is normal?
Keep in mind that my DHD are this morning on the deck, and only hotspot is active (with whom I connect from the notebook) and sync only 2 emails to connect every 15 minutes each
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http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/101/screenshot7rt.png/
The display is set:
animations all, auto brightness, timeout 15 seconds
Probably do you think may be due to the fact that until now has always been on the deck in charge?
paul c said:
...Partial Wakelocks are the main contributor to battery consumption. When the phone is inactive, it should be asleep as much as possible - applications like Phone, Mail, Latitude, alarms etc wake it up for either scheduled or ad-hoc events.
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If I charge the phone before going to sleep to 100% and leave it on, in the morning the battery it at like 60-70% which IMHO is really too much. I have sync set to between 1-2 hour intervals depending on service, but over night I set phone data to OFF so it shouldn't matter, should it? Then why such consumption? I understand it over the day when I use it, but at night the display is off, data is off so what could cause this? It can't be syncing since the data is off....