Wow.. 4.5 'super amoled plus', 1.2 hummingbird process, 8mp/1.3 - Epic 4G General

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First introduced just last year on the Wave, it feels like Super AMOLED was just starting to get its sea legs... but here we go again: Samsung's latest handset -- announced today in collaboration with AT&T at CES -- is the first to tout "Super AMOLED Plus" technology that features a 50 percent boost in sub-pixel count, promising improvements both in contrast and outdoor readability. Maybe more importantly, the display clocks in at a whopping 4.5 inches, besting HTC's 4.3-inch range (the EVO 4G, Desire HD, and likely the Thunderbolt) without getting dangerously close to Dell Streak territory. It's got an 8 megapixel camera on back paired with a 1.3 megapixel shooter up front, a 1.2GHz single-core Hummingbird processor, and still somehow promises to be the thinnest smartphone on AT&T when it launches at a to-be-determined date. Now, the controversy: despite the name, the Infuse 4G apparently doesn't have a hint of LTE -- it's HSPA+, which means AT&T's now playing the same game as T-Mobile.
We've had a brief chance to play with an early Infuse 4G dummy unit, so we weren't able to turn it on, but we got a pretty good impression of how it feels. Basically, we came away encouraged that 4.5 inches isn't going to feel too big for practical use -- if you're accustomed to something like an EVO, you probably won't skip a beat (that's undoubtedly due in part to the fact that the Infuse seems to be quite a bit thinner). We're told the tastefully textured matte rear cover that we saw wasn't final, but we're crossing our fingers that
Its a Samsung Evo 4g lol
At&t looking mighty fine.. plus found out first hand their 3g is
as fast as my 4g on a bad day..
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hayabusa1300cc said:
http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...uper-amoled-plus/&category=classic&postPage=1
Its a Samsung Evo 4g lol
At&t looking mighty fine.. plus found out first hand their 3g is
as fast as my 4g on a bad day..
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Thought about posting this myself but I was just depressed. They're getting the dualcore motorola. Jeez.

That looks awesome, however my step mom switched from at&t cause of there poor phones service slow 3g and unreliable network, plus i rather have a keyboard on my epic and damn that thing is going to be big with 4.5 screen. Also probaly horrible battery life since it has a 1.2 processor..
Cool but i like my epic better...

davidrules7778 said:
That looks awesome, however my step mom switched from at&t cause of there poor phones service slow 3g and unreliable network
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but...but...but...all their commercials say that at&t has the fastest network in America.
/sarcasm

but...but...but...all their commercials say that at&t has the fastest network in America.
/sarcasm
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LOL so true so true.. I had such fun at a recently holiday gathering with my iPhone-toting friends. The frustration abounded as I was able to zip photos from the party up to Facebook/Twitter in seconds and their network dragged and dragged. As much as this froyo fiasco is grinding my gears, at least I have a solid data connection 99% of the time.

If it had a physical keyboard, I'd be intrigued. It's a nice looking phone, but I rely too much on my hardware keyboard..

One of the reasons we dont have Froyo yet too. They've been busy with this big thing.
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I might have to find me another dummy to go to att and get me this phone,so I can use it with tmobile,is they hsdpa+ same as tmobile?

DiGi760 said:
but...but...but...all their commercials say that at&t has the fastest network in America.
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Ya ill believe there commercial when my **** turns hot pink lol
themirthfulswami said:
LOL so true so true.. I had such fun at a recently holiday gathering with my iPhone-toting friends. The frustration abounded as I was able to zip photos from the party up to Facebook/Twitter in seconds and their network dragged and dragged. As much as this froyo fiasco is grinding my gears, at least I have a solid data connection 99% of the time.
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So get this, my sisters bf has an iphone and i have sprints epics with mobile ap for free and he was saying my data speeds were 4g and he stated connecting to my phone with his iphone on my 3g service along with my laptop and 2 ipod touchs saying it was faster then his 3g service. LMFAO
hydrogenwv said:
If it had a physical keyboard, I'd be intrigued. It's a nice looking phone, but I rely too much on my hardware keyboard..
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Dido, however i would not switch to crap At&T Service..
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One of the reasons we dont have Froyo yet too. They've been busy with this big thing.
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+1
Right? Seriously!!!

Finally, all the subpixels. Makes me jealous.

hydrogenwv said:
If it had a physical keyboard, I'd be intrigued. It's a nice looking phone, but I rely too much on my hardware keyboard..
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Same here... I would be an AT&T customer but their Android phones with keyboards is just laughable. Damn the apple for being the driving force behind the keyboardless phones. They are just useless to me... nothing like banging away at a text or email without having to even look at the screen once.

What would be funny, if it came shipped with 2.1, or 2.2 when they already made the nexus s 2.3 lmfao samsung would look bad...
Edit: nvrmind it has 2.2, and probaly wont get 2.3, wow samsung announcing a new device top of the line with android 2.2, sucky!!!!

Speaking of sub pixels..did the Nexus S use PenTile Matrix? cause In Google's specs they made it sound like no PenTile too..forgot to ask :/
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What would be funny, if it came shipped with 2.1, or 2.2 when they already made the nexus s 2.3 lmfao samsung would look bad...
Edit: nvrmind it has 2.2, and probaly wont get 2.3, wow samsung announcing a new device top of the line with android 2.2, sucky!!!!
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Its not shocking..Nexus One already had 2.2 and EVO came out with 2.1...its ow these things work..just cause Gingerbread is out does not mean its 100% stable..hence why its on a developer phone...the N1 got a few Froyo updates before any phone got theirs...

gTen said:
Speaking of sub pixels..did the Nexus S use PenTile Matrix? cause In Google's specs they made it sound like no PenTile too..forgot to ask :/
Its not shocking..Nexus One already had 2.2 and EVO came out with 2.1...its ow these things work..just cause Gingerbread is out does not mean its 100% stable..hence why its on a developer phone...the N1 got a few Froyo updates before any phone got theirs...
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Oh i see, well i doubt samsung will upgrade anytime soon, i mean we still dont have froyo on any galaxy s devices in the U.S. so..
Thanks for that info tho. didnt know that

AT&T blows, nuff said.
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Im fine with 4.5 screen if they still make the phone same size as Epic.How?Epic has 0.2 inches of unused space on each side of the screen,now if they could make the whole screen as wide as the phone itself,why waste any space?I bet that sht is possible to make and get rid off 4 android buttons that nobody uses and make 1 or 2 physical buttons imstead and make them smaller.To make it short bassicly fit that 4.5 screen on our Epic- it can be done.

leatherneck6017 said:
AT&T blows, nuff said.
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+1........ I sold their phones awhile ago their customer service is the worst. they also are way too expensive for pretty much the ****ty service all these carriers have just because it comes with a pretty red bow doesnt make it any better.if you are complaining about 3g speeds get wifi boneheads. all of my major downloading is done on wifi at my house. im not impressed by the phone at all it is probably our exact processor just overclocked. whoop deee dooo daaaa. dual cores will be coming out in feb that will impress me
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no keyboard no thank you....it looks like a decent phone though too bad samsung made it measn they will get no support sucks to be them

No disrespect meant towards the OP but, F samsung. They aren't getting any more of my money.

Specs-wise, it's an incremental upgrade at best. We could easily overclock our chips to 1.2 GHz if we wanted to. I am surprised really, that it didn't come with a dual core ARM Cortex A9 CPU. I doubt that the camera will be much better (remember megapixels != quality).
The only thing that is really tempting is the screen, which now uses the RGB layout. Otherwise, it's not worth upgrading to. Upgrade when your phone is significantly weaker than the status quo, or else you're constantly going to be spending big.

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Engadget: Epic 4G review, EVO still #1

from http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/16/epic-4g-review
"So is it the right phone for the job? In a word, yes -- the Epic 4G is a great device. Killer, even. Nothing speaks to us more strongly during the course of a review than finishing it and saying, "alright, I'm ready to buy this thing," and the Epic is on the short list of phones that has managed to do it. More than its Galaxy S siblings, it feels like the Epic has overcome its shortcomings -- notably the forgettable UI skin -- to shine, and it's a phone we could easily imagine using day to day. Only thing is, the EVO is also on that short list for us -- and the better camera, bigger screen, and $50 savings versus the Epic still make it our winner in this 4G shootout, though only by the thinnest of margins. Needless to say, if you need a physical keyboard and you're looking for the one of the most musclebound Android phones money can buy, we wouldn't hesitate to recommend it."
I've been thinking about switching over to the Epic but the GPS problems found on all the Galaxy S phones along with Samsung's bad reputation for slow if any updates make me really appreciate how awesome the Evo/HTC really is
You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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Of course they would, they are iphone fanatics. And aren't they also owned in part by apple or at&t or something?
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Of course they would, they are iphone fanatics. And aren't they also owned in part by apple or at&t or something?
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You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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But the Evo and iPhone 4 got the same score.
They really aren't as bad as some other news blogs out there (Gizmodo).
How many Epic threads do we need in an Evo forum? Are we going to have a separate thread for the Gizmodo review?
i played with a epic today, i wont be switching from my evo...
Engadget? -- Really? -- They're not even fully aware of GPS problems that are affecting the Galaxy S line of phones -- in short, completely disregard their reviews because -- Engadget isn't playing with a full deck -- don't let your love for HTC cloud your objectivity.
Hopefully I used -- enough.
Minjin said:
How many Epic threads do we need in an Evo forum? Are we going to have a separate thread for the Gizmodo review?
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The Gizmodo article needs its own thread actually...unlike this one..I mean in the Gizmodo article..now don't get a heart attack...only time it compared the Epic to the iphone 4 was to say that the Epic is better at it...when I saw that my jaw dropped....if anyone doesn't believe me read the article...
That said samsung said GPS will be fixed in September..so thats withing the 30 days of the Epic..so if necessary it ca be returned if GPS is a concern.
As for the Engadget review..only reason it got an 8/10 over a 9/10 was due to the 50$ extra..so its not that its a worse phone.it just costs 50$ more...
Vandam500 said:
I've been thinking about switching over to the Epic but the GPS problems found on all the Galaxy S phones along with Samsung's bad reputation for slow if any updates make me really appreciate how awesome the Evo/HTC really is
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They amended the review at Engadget after talking to Samsung. The Epic ships with AGPS turned off. Once it was activated, they said things look fine.
Apparently google is requiring this to be off by default now. Must be a privacy thing, because I can't see a logical reason to reduce functionality otherwise.
Most buyers will never turn it on, and will assume their phone navigation sucks.
We see who is lurking in the background:
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Considering the Epic *****ing when the evo was released about all the bone headed issues HTC still have not fixed I don't think anyone can point a finger at samsung. The Epic is slated for 2.2 in September and a GPS fix.
Without root and custom roms the EVO, for a power user, is a POS.
Talk about construction issues. Different parts of varying capability and quality. Different screens, different multitouch sensors etc its like they took all the extra parts they had lying around and stuffed them into the cases.
Light leakage, screens lifting etc... FPS fix? SD cards corrupted? Touch input lag? Grounding issues? Thank God for XDA and some updates.
The EVO shipped with far more wrong that the epic. This is coming from an EVO owner. If the worst thing wrong with the Samsung is a GPS issue that will get fixed and touch wiz lag (Which you can remove without a custom rom unlike HTC sense) then they are a few steps ahead of where we were at release.
Also it seems the 1gb of storage may entirely be NAND fixing the app lag from the vibrant and other Galaxy S devices. From Slash gear's review:
Happily, while use of the Galaxy S series was punctuated with freezes and pauses, anecdotally blamed upon the handsets’ use of an internal microSD card for their onboard storage, the Epic 4G seems generally free of such lag.
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It's still "Internal SD" from what I can see, we (Captivate/Vibrant) don't have the newer firmware (yet) that eliminates lag when going back to the homescreen or when opening apps.
Got a chance to compare them side by side today and I have to say I highly prefer the EVO, the Samsung has a smaller screen yet the device is bigger and bulkier than the EVO. The UI looks like something designed by a 5 year old with a box of crayons. I guess if you really need a hard keyboard the Epic would be the only route you can take but the keyboard works great on the EVO so I actually prefer the slimmer device rather than a bulky 90's esque slide out keyboard phone. I honestly can't fathom why anyone would want an Epic over an EVO but I imagine some Epic owners feel the same way about the EVO. Regardless there is not a snowballs chance in hell I would ever own an Epic over an EVO The only other phone I might choos is iPhone 4 but with it's tiny screen and lack of widgets the whole thing just seems like outdated technology, I think Apple has alot of catching up to do to win me back from the EVO/Android.
Aridon said:
Considering the Epic *****ing when the evo was released about all the bone headed issues HTC still have not fixed I don't think anyone can point a finger at samsung. The Epic is slated for 2.2 in September and a GPS fix.
Without root and custom roms the EVO, for a power user, is a POS.
Talk about construction issues. Different parts of varying capability and quality. Different screens, different multitouch sensors etc its like they took all the extra parts they had lying around and stuffed them into the cases.
Light leakage, screens lifting etc... FPS fix? SD cards corrupted? Touch input lag? Grounding issues? Thank God for XDA and some updates.
The EVO shipped with far more wrong that the epic. This is coming from an EVO owner. If the worst thing wrong with the Samsung is a GPS issue that will get fixed and touch wiz lag (Which you can remove without a custom rom unlike HTC sense) then they are a few steps ahead of where we were at release.
Also it seems the 1gb of storage may entirely be NAND fixing the app lag from the vibrant and other Galaxy S devices. From Slash gear's review:
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I agree. I decided to return my evo today, I'll preorder an epic as soon as sprint receives the evo and grants me upgrade eligibility again.
bluehaze said:
Got a chance to compare them side by side today and I have to say I highly prefer the EVO, the Samsung has a smaller screen yet the device is bigger and bulkier than the EVO. The UI looks like something designed by a 5 year old with a box of crayons. I guess if you really need a hard keyboard the Epic would be the only route you can take but the keyboard works great on the EVO so I actually prefer the slimmer device rather than a bulky 90's esque slide out keyboard phone. I honestly can't fathom why anyone would want an Epic over an EVO but I imagine some Epic owners feel the same way about the EVO. Regardless there is not a snowballs chance in hell I would ever own an Epic over an EVO The only other phone I might choos is iPhone 4 but with it's tiny screen and lack of widgets the whole thing just seems like outdated technology, I think Apple has alot of catching up to do to win me back from the EVO/Android.
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agreed, i played with our demo epic all day today, and honestly, im not that impressed. It is a VERY nice screen, but as stated all over, colors look highly over saturated, and text is grainy because of it. I am envious of the 60fps when scrolling through menus, but thats ALL. Touchwiz is a JOKE. The capacitive android buttons work when they want to, cameras are much lower quality, and the screen is smaller. MY unbiased opinion? I think the epic is better for the GENERAL public out of the box vs the evo. That being said, For us XDA people, The evo is still the clear winner. Ill take my over clocked custom rom'd up ass evo ANYDAY over the epic. GO HTC!
rockethot said:
You can't take engadget reviews seriously. They gave the iphone 4 a higher rating than the Droid X
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thats all the more reason to take them seriously... the droid x is crap
Success100 said:
It is a VERY nice screen, but as stated all over, colors look highly over saturated,
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"Oversaturated"? Riiight. I'm guessing those true black levels are highly exaggerated too.
I am within 30 days of return date for my evo and was considering making the switch but the reviews make it easier for me to stick to the evo
With fresh Rom and havs kernel my battery life is fine and I don't really think I would ever use the horizontal hardware keyboard
If it was a vertical keyboard maybe since id be able to use it one handed
The screen is nice but from looking at the vibrant it had a blueish hue I did not care for. Additionally the pentile matrix display made text a bit tough to read from anything but zoomed in levels

WOOT CDMA iPhone coming soon

Verizon just confirmed the iphone release:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704739504576068170230339348.html?mod=djemalertNEWS
Would this make it possible for us to flash it for sprint?
Get that outta here...the ipunk gets no love here. We're all about android here buddy. Go to a iphone forum with that question....lol
Just playing.
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plmiller0905 said:
Get that outta here...the ipunk gets no love here. We're all about android here buddy. Go to a iphone forum with that question....lol
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YEAH! lol j/k
But really gtfo
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YEAH! lol j/k
But really gtfo
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Lmao...lol
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Possibly has something to do with this?
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-cut-return-policy-14-days-effective-jan-16th
Only sissies have iphones.
I can't believe the OP even asked that question here..too funny
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No phone would be able to convince me to take it in the ass from At&t OR Verizon.
Iphones are for the ladies it takes a real man to run on Android and harness it >=]
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wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
Also i never said that people should switch to verizon. Hence why i posted:
"Would this make it possible for us to flash it for sprint?"
Also hence why i said "CDMA iphone" and not "verizon iphone"
lrn2read, and then comment.
Ill pass. I got a iPod touch.
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Last-Chance said:
wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
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Irrelevant to what some people said:
mattykinsx said:
No phone would be able to convince me to take it in the ass from At&t OR Verizon.
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You'll notice that says no phone, not "the iphone"
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-cut-return-policy-14-days-effective-jan-16th
http://www.androidcentral.com/veriz...de-policy-youll-have-wait-20-months-new-phone
Only two examples of many, many.
Last-Chance said:
wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
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Last-Chance said:
wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
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Have you ever looked in an iphone forum and seen how they bash android?
This is nothing.
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No phone would be able to convince me to take it in the ass from At&t OR Verizon.
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What this man said is how I feel.
I'd probably leave Android as well. I do miss my iPhone and all the amazing apps.
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I would jump on a sprint iphone 4 in a hear beat.
Last-Chance said:
wow you guys are seriously worst than iphone fan boys.
hmm, a retina display with better cpu/gpu, better app market, better front and back camera, and overall 10x better as hardware and software (minus the ****ty at&t network) or an old outdated cpu/gpu, with a pretty bad app market, and ****ty cameras.
hmm thats a hard one. If someone figures out a way to "unlock" it to work on sprint, im jumping it asap. Unless sprint has something up their sleeves like the motorola atrix, which i doubt.
Also i never said that people should switch to verizon. Hence why i posted:
"Would this make it possible for us to flash it for sprint?"
Also hence why i said "CDMA iphone" and not "verizon iphone"
lrn2read, and then comment.
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Yeah have you ever been to an Iphone forum? They act like the iphone is god's work and every other phone is just trying to copy.
I'm guessing you're comparing the Evo/Iphone.
The camera app actually has many more functions than an Iphone camera. From contrast/saturation/brightness levels to ISO levels, we have quite a bit of customization there. The camera is as good as the person using it.
We also have some camera replacement apps (as well as messaging app replacements and widget replacements and keyboard replacements... )
Retina display is all Steve Job's bs crap. No one cared about pixels until he mentioned it. Have you used a magnifying glass to read text on your phone and find all the pixels?
I'd rather have a bigger screened phone. I don't know how anyone can go from 4.3" to 3.5", lol. I can't even drop down to 4.0" for some of these new phones coming out.
Better cpu? Eh, snapdragon is fast enough on the CPU side.
GPU? Sucks...
But if you're comparing any of the newer phones such as the newer GPUs by HTC and the Galaxy line by Samsung, then it beats the iphone.
App market? We have SOOOO many more free apps... period. I rarely buy apps. The App store is filled with soooo many 99c crapps. Until recently, they have been getting priority with companies. Nowadays, many new apps are built for android/iphone both simply because of the marketshare.
Though I do commend Apple on keeping their product line so simple... they can create the thinnest phone with the biggest battery and everyone buys it.
Other companies need to learn from that. HTC pumps out new phones like no other. Phones get lost with all these random names like Desire, Eris, Incredible, Hero, Evo... not to techies, but to regular users.
Woooah rant. Fed troll. :/
The retina display is so much clearer than super amoled, or any other android screen on the market (right now)
The iphone is so much snappier than my evo, even with me running CM6. Everything on the iphone is faster. One thing i really noticed was how fast photos upload. In order for me to look at my pictures on my sd card, it takes 10 seconds to see one photo (might be exaggerated by a couple of seconds), but on the iphone you click on gallery, and the photos are there.
The app store on mac products also has apps for basically everything. Android is finally catching up..and im proud of them. However, it will take a while before they have the amount of apps that are as good as iphone. I would rather pay 99 cents for an app than not have an option for it at all.
My opinion is that a iPhone is a toy its a ipod touch really with more specs I'd rather have a phone that looks different from. Every apple product all there touch products look the same
To me that's my opinion

Evo is so much better than the Epic

I've had an Evo for about 6 months now and i've always loved this phone. However my evo broke and sprint offered to give me an epic 4g, so i said ok. After using it for about 4 days i missed my evo so much. This is why:
Cons:
Ecic doesn't have Android 2.2
Battery lasted about 8 hours on standby ( my evo lasts 28 hours )
Keyboard didn't always register when I hit keys
Screen is smaller
Power button is on the right of the phone so when you hold it in your hand you sometimes hit it with your fingers
Pros:
Screen is LED and looks amazing.
I would give up the LED screen any day for the Evo.
Yes I didn't like the epic either.
speedy0339 said:
I've had an Evo for about 6 months now and i've always loved this phone. However my evo broke and sprint offered to give me an epic 4g, so i said ok. After using it for about 4 days i missed my evo so much. This is why:
Cons:
Ecic doesn't have Android 2.2
Battery lasted about 8 hours on standby ( my evo lasts 28 hours )
Keyboard didn't always register when I hit keys
Screen is smaller
Power button is on the right of the phone so when you hold it in your hand you sometimes hit it with your fingers
Pros:
Screen is LED and looks amazing.
I would give up the LED screen any day for the Evo.
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The EVO you wish you had
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Pros:
Screen is LED and looks amazing.
I would give up the LED screen any day for the Evo.
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I prefer the Plasma screen on my EVO.
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Epic user here...
My best friend has an EVO so I actually get a bit of time to compare them side by side... I agree with some of your comments.
Epic has much better support for various kinds of video formats... kind of a minor pro depending on how much you use video on your phone.
Epic is by far faster in anything 3d and in general it has felt smoother in every day use
Epic has Gorilla Glass. It just feels different in your hands and feels a little bit better to "swype" on.
Evo is well built... my epic is not. My screen is loose and it wobbles.
Evo is thinner (no keyboard) ... I hate my physical keyboard
Evo has a much better dev community
I honestly wish neither existed and we just had or a CDMA version of the SGS i-9000, or cdma Nexus S.
The Galaxy S hardware is slick and when it doesn't have a physical keyboard it's a really sweet profile. I really think a CDMA Nexus S would bridge the gap between the EVO and Epic and be a truly great phone for Sprint... too bad, so sad
Evo is so much better than the Epic
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Duh !!! frhdjd !
The EVO you wish you had
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I went back to the sprint store and changed it back out for an evo.
I also agree with you snowmanwithahat.
The epic seems faster even though it has 2.1 and the browser seems faster too, but it doesnt have flash and when loading a site with no flash, the evo and the epic load at the same time.
The evo feels better in your hand and the battery lasts alot longer
I had an Epic as a loaner while my Evo was being sent to HTC for repairs, and I hated the Epic. It's ONE pro, was that the screen was nice (but even that was a con when red or orange were on the screen and looked overly boosted).
Things I hated:
Going back to 2.1
GPS took forever to lock on
It locked up pretty regularly for a few seconds for no reason at all
I had less bars
The whole top of it felt wobbly, like the physical keyboard was trying to slide out.
It didn't play files through Rockplayer as well as the Evo does.
I love the looks of the Nexus S, and without Touchwiz, it's probably a whole different phone, but overall, my opinion of Samsung phones is still pretty low.
i wonder what phones going to win in a poll started in the evo section... hmmmmm
i love the EVO.. sammy sucks.
but of course your poll will be a little scewed .. bing in an EVO section.
Yeah I hate Samsung. They never push out updates and their phones always break. HTC for the win. I WILL NEVER GO BACK
And Samsung's support sucks.
Has anyone noticed that the Epic is WAY faster, even with 2.1 than our Evos running 2.3?
My brother has an Epic and the UI and browser is buttery-smooth. I wonder if that is because it uses hardware graphics acceleration in the UI, or because the CPU is so much better?
Either way, it's almost painful to use my Evo after using his epic
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Has anyone noticed that the Epic is WAY faster, even with 2.1 than our Evos running 2.3?
My brother has an Epic and the UI and browser is buttery-smooth. I wonder if that is because it uses hardware graphics acceleration in the UI, or because the CPU is so much better?
Either way, it's almost painful to use my Evo after using his epic
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Android isn't fully HW accelerated but parts of it are. The Epic's GPU is significantly faster. For reference:
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the n1 has the same GPU as the EVO and the Nexus S has the same GPU as the Epic.
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Android isn't fully HW accelerated but parts of it are. The Epic's GPU is significantly faster. For reference:
the n1 has the same GPU as the EVO and the Nexus S has the same GPU as the Epic.
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If the GUI isn't really hardware (GPU) accelerated, then what difference does it make? Did Samsung add some sort of GPU support to the GUI?
ScrapMaker said:
Has anyone noticed that the Epic is WAY faster, even with 2.1 than our Evos running 2.3?
My brother has an Epic and the UI and browser is buttery-smooth. I wonder if that is because it uses hardware graphics acceleration in the UI, or because the CPU is so much better?
Either way, it's almost painful to use my Evo after using his epic
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The processor is supposed to be better. Samasung is always at the top in hardware but always at the bottom in software. HTC is just perfect
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
Crossrocker said:
The processor is supposed to be better. Samasung is always at the top in hardware but always at the bottom in software. HTC is just perfect
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.
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Hrm... Epic already has a build of CM7... I really wonder what makes the Evo so much better?
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Hrm... Epic already has a build of CM7... I really wonder what makes the Evo so much better?
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Its HTC.
10/character
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If the GUI isn't really hardware (GPU) accelerated, then what difference does it make? Did Samsung add some sort of GPU support to the GUI?
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Like I said, parts of Android are indeed HW accelerated and I'm not talking about Honeycomb. An Android team developer mentioned this a while back, although parts = not a lot. And I do think that Samsung added some things too, I remember reading about the browser being HW accelerated.
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Hrm... Epic already has a build of CM7... I really wonder what makes the Evo so much better?
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Well. Lots of things. You don't get the official update. This is BIG. In evo forums, some use sense(based on OTA'S) and some use cm7. Also, if you wanna talk about only the people that root their phones, evo has A CRAP LOAD more development going. Its ridiculous.
A drop of Chuck Norris's semen was placed on Android OS. We now have CyanogenMod.

What am I going to do now?

I bet I am not the only one feeling like this is the end of the line for my EVO.
I got MikG 2.1 on my phone and it is basically running as good as the hardware will let the EVO run. What now? I have been flashing OSs since the Blackberry days and I feel a big let down. I don;t see me going to the EVO 3D as it would not really improve my EVO experience all that much. I use my phone for business and personal stuff and it is doing a very good job.
What now???
I would go for the Galaxy S II when it comes out, or something else, since good things are coming.
The Galaxy SII looks good but I have not had very good luck with Samsung phones. SMH
As crazy as it might sound, I would consider going back to a Blackberry if they came out with a 4" plus screen. Like a Storm4. Crazy right? LOL
I feel the same way, on MikG 2.1 as well. The phone is just working too well to mess with! Can't complain about that. Don't worry though, just like with the hero ROMs and improvements will keep coming. The EVO is just in a weird place because handsets are more powerful now, it is a year old, and still keeps up rather than being totally outdated.
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As crazy as it might sound, I would consider going back to a Blackberry if they came out with a 4" plus screen. Like a Storm4. Crazy right? LOL
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Very weird; I had to use my sister's Blackberry when my first Evo went missing, then got a replacement; I hated it, little keyboard, had to go all backways just to get something simple, like an alarm, and had to use the calendar to have more than one.
Personally, I would recommend you at least try the Galaxy S II; I've had good experiences with Samsung products [for what its worth], the phone will be a powerhouse, and if you don't like it, can always return it within the 30 days.
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As crazy as it might sound, I would consider going back to a Blackberry if they came out with a 4" plus screen. Like a Storm4. Crazy right? LOL
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Going back to Blackberry is crazy. I have one for work and hate the damn thing, compared to my Evo. There's always something new on the horizon, just wait it out
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Just supercharge it.
It will feel like a new phone anyway without the expense
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I still have my evo. I'm currently stripping it down to barebones and using my tablet for everything else. I was working on an updated gingerbread rom but those plans have changed now. The evo is still a great device as a phone and as a smartphone. It's just a shame people jumped ship just to have the latest and greatest. I simply just added what I wanted which was the htc evo view tablet.
I would go to a Sprint store or Radio shack and play with the Evo 3D. I thought i wouldn't like it after seeing all the negative reviews, but when I played with it in person, I was really impressed. Just seemed way better than I thought, and I even dig the 3D now.
I just posted my Evo on Craigslist a few minutes ago. If I get a buyer, I'll go get the 3D. Thought about waiting for the GS2, but not really a fan of Samsung phones...and the development community the 3D seems to be building up outweighs the specs for me.
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I bet I am not the only one feeling like this is the end of the line for my EVO.
I got MikG 2.1 on my phone and it is basically running as good as the hardware will let the EVO run. What now? I have been flashing OSs since the Blackberry days and I feel a big let down. I don;t see me going to the EVO 3D as it would not really improve my EVO experience all that much. I use my phone for business and personal stuff and it is doing a very good job.
What now???
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The 3D is a really fast phone, played around with it yesterday but other then that I see no reason to pick it up. If it's not broken why mess with it?
Yeah some of the devs have moved onto the 3D, but this phone is far from dead. Let the excitement die down a bit and you will have plently of roms to flash in the future.
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what can the 3d do that the Evo can't do other than watch videos and shoot in 3d?
I still haven't figured that one out, but it seems all the hype over it is just because it's a new shiny toy...Kind of like the ipho..oops.
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what can the 3d do that the Evo can't do other than watch videos and shoot in 3d?
I still haven't figured that one out, but it seems all the hype over it is just because it's a new shiny toy...Kind of like the ipho..oops.
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Bigger Battery, more Ram, Dual, Core. Like having 2 evos in 1.. that's pretty much it
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Its just a phone. I don't feel the need to upgrade until I find something it can't do and that's definitely not now.
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Bigger Battery, more Ram, Dual, Core. Like having 2 evos in 1.. that's pretty much it
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That's sidestepping the question though. He didn't ask what the difference was. He asked what could it do the Evo couldn't? Having a longer battery life is certainly nice, though. But as of right now, I can't see the dual core and ram being useful... maybe in six months?
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That's sidestepping the question though. He didn't ask what the difference was. He asked what could it do the Evo couldn't? Having a longer battery life is certainly nice, though. But as of right now, I can't see the dual core and ram being useful... maybe in six months?
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Must of misread the question. The dual core plus more ram will be a huge factor on how much faster roms will run once these devs get root access. It will totally blow the Evo out of the water in that aspect for sure.
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Must of misread the question. The dual core plus more ram will be a huge factor on how much faster roms will run once these devs get root access. It will totally blow the Evo out of the water in that aspect for sure.
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Lol no I've had a g2x dual core overclocked to 1.5ghz
Then moved to Sprint .. got the EVO 4G..
Now I have the EVO 3d.. even with "development" nothing will be much faster
We need ice cream to utilize the dual core/adreno220 chip set...
As for more RAM.... Hardly I'm at 122-200 mbs free... That means over 70% is being used for sense 3.0 and OS...
Honestly I'm selling my EVO 3d for a EVO 4g and a laptop in two days.... Don't bother with this 3vo as they call it... It honestly isn't much of an improvement
The only thing I can seeing it be good with is a stock aosp ROM like miui or cm
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I am beginning to think the same way. I would not watch 3D movies on my EVO or take 3D videos. As tot he dual processor, what exactly will that do for me? Get my emails faster? Dial out faster? Surf the internet faster? Not unless we get steady 4G speeds or even really good 3G speeds. On wifi my EVO flies and does pretty good when I get good 3G service. So I am not sure what I would gain. I know when I went from Storm1 to Storm2 it was supposed to be such a big improvement but I did not see that much. I like Sense so I am not sure if I would go to Samsung but never know. I think I would switch more for longer battery life if a phone came out with that kind of technology. But, I don't see how these faster processors are going to help with that.
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Its just a phone. I don't feel the need to upgrade until I find something it can't do and that's definitely not now.
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Nexus Prime Pictures Leaked: No onscreen buttons, 720p screen

http://m.androidcentral.com/first-nexus-prime-photo-leak-shows-buttonless-device-720p-display
Looks pretty slick. So excited for the Nexus Prime and Google event next week with Apple's event today being a total snooze
Interesting, thanks sir.
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http://m.androidcentral.com/first-nexus-prime-photo-leak-shows-buttonless-device-720p-display
Looks pretty slick. So excited for the Nexus Prime and Google event next week with Apple's event today being a total snooze
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U no likey the iphone ? LOL
Awesome. Very nearly iPhone 4 ppi on 4.6 inches and its SAMOLED AND its 720p. I really hope this leak is real cause I'm sold on the display alone. I only hope the next nexus doesn't do away with the sd card slot >_<
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Same. Super excited about the 720p screen. Considering my laptop is 15" and 1280x800 its quite astonishing how far screen technology evolved :\ Although apparently its still pentile but considering my Epic is already pentile I think I should be fine.
What I want:
1.5 GHz Dual Core (or even quad-core? maybe too early still)
10-12 MP Camera (There is an android phone expected to have a 12 MP camera soon, so it would be cool to see the NP have one)
720p display (which seems confirmed)
4.5-4.65" display (which is also likely)
BETTER BATTERY LIFE? (2000 mAh??!!?)
ICS will bring a huge update to the OS, but most likely UI which is cool
Anyone else agree?
Lol Galaxy S II already blows iPhone 4S out of the water:
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What I want:
1.5 GHz Dual Core (or even quad-core? maybe too early still)
10-12 MP Camera (There is an android phone expected to have a 12 MP camera soon, so it would be cool to see the NP have one)
720p display (which seems confirmed)
4.5-4.65" display (which is also likely)
BETTER BATTERY LIFE? (2000 mAh??!!?)
ICS will bring a huge update to the OS, but most likely UI which is cool
Anyone else agree?
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I would agree with this for the most part. I don't think we'll see a quad-core in this guy quite yet. As for the camera, MP is only a fraction of what makes a good camera. I personally believe the camera on the Epic is pretty rock solid for a phone.
I think once you get over a 4.5" screen, it's getting to be too big for a phone. I would like to see it no more than 4.5". However, even with the lack of buttons, I'm surprised at how much 'dead' space there is at the bottom of the phone. I figured without the buttons, they would be able to utilize about the whole front as the screen. They can put the carrier branding crap on the back.
Not only would I like to see a bigger capacity battery, but I'm guessing ICS probably has some good things in it which will improve batter life as it is.
If this thing comes to Sprint, it shall be my next phone, without question!
Yeah the biggest issue being Verizon will probably be the first to get it.... My upgrade is available yet I have to wait more... /firstworldproblems
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I would agree with this for the most part. I don't think we'll see a quad-core in this guy quite yet. As for the camera, MP is only a fraction of what makes a good camera. I personally believe the camera on the Epic is pretty rock solid for a phone.
I think once you get over a 4.5" screen, it's getting to be too big for a phone. I would like to see it no more than 4.5". However, even with the lack of buttons, I'm surprised at how much 'dead' space there is at the bottom of the phone. I figured without the buttons, they would be able to utilize about the whole front as the screen. They can put the carrier branding crap on the back.
Not only would I like to see a bigger capacity battery, but I'm guessing ICS probably has some good things in it which will improve batter life as it is.
If this thing comes to Sprint, it shall be my next phone, without question!
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Gotta agree, there is too much dead space there tha can be use with more screen, I was hoping for a longer screen :S
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I think the title should be changed to 1/2 a picture of the nexus prime leaked, not pictures...
Nexus Prime Teaser Video
http://youtu.be/oM9RO-GAKjE
OMG that thing extremely slim!! I want it!!
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Pic looks familiar..see Prime thread a page or two back.
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Woah! Now we can definitely expect an even more contour phone!
(Or maybe it's just my eye perceiving it wrong)
Ahhh! Best teaser video ever! That was some slick advertising. And omg...curved glass...mmmm
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Will someone please tell me where all these ridiculous rumors that Verizon will get any exclusivity on the next Nexus came from? Let's stack up the evidence:
1) Verizon to this date is the ONLY carrier who does not currently have even 1 Nexus phone.
2) Verizon actively refused these phones because they couldn't ruin them with bloat; a factor that has not changed.
2a. The Nexus phones aren't crazy big sellers and thus wouldn't change Verizon's decision, especially not enough to make them pay for exclusivity.
3) Google is crazy in bed with Sprint right now with Google Wallet and Google Voice being exclusive services currently.
4) Google just tricked the Nexus lines current customers into signing 2 year contracts with T Mobile and Sprint; why would they intentionally screw developers by making it so they can't get this Nexus device without an ETF?
Evidence FOR Verizon exclusivity:
1) the words "Droid" and "Prime" were once seen written on the same line of text? And there is absolutely no proof that that phone exists or is not just a bloated Nexus variant.
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squshy 7 said:
Ahhh! Best teaser video ever! That was some slick advertising. And omg...curved glass...mmmm
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They seem to be sticking to the shape of the OG Nexus. Does anyone know if it will have no SD card slot and be all internal memory? I remember when people thought the OG Nexus would be dual core as well. I will wait for iron clad proof that its coming to Sprint and has at least a bigger battery and more powerful processor because that screen has got to use more battery
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@usf - I don't know all the answers to your questions, but here's where I see an almost problem:
3) Google is crazy in bed with Sprint right now with Google Wallet and Google Voice being exclusive services currently.
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This was true, until Sprint went and dumped $20B towards Apple. I really hope that didn't piss off Google too much. If I were getting cozy with someone and they went and did something like that, I would seriously have to reconsider my association/partnership with them.
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@usf - I don't know all the answers to your questions, but here's where I see an almost problem:
This was true, until Sprint went and dumped $20B towards Apple. I really hope that didn't piss off Google too much. If I were getting cozy with someone and they went and did something like that, I would seriously have to reconsider my association/partnership with them.
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And I would consider that compelling evidence against exclusivity on sprint as well. The decision for which carriers were getting this was made months ago and its unlikely that sprint was talking to google about buying the iphone all the way back then.
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