My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.
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My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.
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Noone can answer that unless they are in the know over at sprint and HTC, If i had to guess and judging by how they got froyo out first, then probably by the end of Feb or early march.
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Noone can answer that unless they are in the know over at sprint and HTC, If i had to guess and judging by how they got froyo out first, then probably by the end of Feb or early march.
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That is kind of what I think too. Then it makes me wonder, the EVO-2, should be out I am sure, on the one year anniversary of the EVO, so that would be in June, to compete with the iPhone5
But with HTC slower to bring out updates due to SENSE UI, will the EVO-2 be a "Gingerbread" dual core device, or hopefully a "Honeycomb" dual core phone ? What are the predictions ?
Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.
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Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.
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You gave up waiting? Hasn't it only been out a few weeks?
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You gave up waiting? Hasn't it only been out a few weeks?
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Well we've known of it for months, and besides i never claimed to be very patient
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Of course its just speculation, but i think Evo-2 will be gingerbread as will most phones in 2011. If we see honeycomb it wont be till the very end of 2011 i think.
I personally gave up waiting for 2.3 on the Evo and just flashed custom ROM. As you said it usually takes HTC longer because they have to incorporate Sense into it. If the Evo see's 2.3 (i beleive it will) then it will prob be late in the Q1 or early Q2 of 2011.
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Honeycomb will be shown off on tablets in just a few days, and I'd expect those tablets to be on store shelves in just a matter of weeks. My guess is that Honeycomb (or it's equivalent for phones) will follow the usual Android update schedule and will be released for phones in May. With the Nexus S just dropping I'd expect that the new OS is being developed on it, so HTC will probably be scrambling around May to get it working on their phones. The EVO 2 (if it even will exist) will probably be announced a few weeks before that so chances are that it will ship with 2.3 and get the newer update a few months/weeks later just like the original EVO.
As for 2.3 on the EVO. I wouldn't hold my breath. There's a decent shot of it coming but with all the new flagship phones that HTC now supports, it's probably a low priority for them. If it does come, I wouldn't be surprised if that it takes as long as March or more.
I was pretty surprised how fast the EVO officially got 2.2 it was like two months after the phone came out. So in theory can we expect 2.3 Gingerbread for the EVO in mid to late February ? I wouldn't be surprised if it does come out around then. Because around that time "Honeycomb" will soon be getting all the press and being released on the major Tablets in March they say.
Strictly theory and conjecture? I'd say late February. I know we're going to be one of the first to get GB, but I also know that Sprint likes to take its sweet ass time releasing updates. You have to remember that HTC releases the beta to the telecoms, and they beta test like crazy before release. Sprint just happens to take the longest usually.
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Nobody knows when it's coming out. We're neither psychics nor HTC employees. Your only safe bet is that it's not today, it's not tomorrow, and CyanogenMod 7 Nightlies will be out first.
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My Wife and I have the EVO, I am running 6.1 C mod, but my Wife doesn't want me to install custom roms on her phone. When do you think HTC will update the EVO to 2.3 Gingerbread ? And will it even happen at all, or will they just concentrate on the EVO-2, due out in 5 months.
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Hell, maybe never being that CES is next week and the evo shift is on the horizon.
Any update on EVO officially getting 2.3 ? I thought I heard rumored to be late Feb / early March ?
If ur evo is rooted will u still see the ota update?
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Any update on EVO officially getting 2.3 ? I thought I heard rumored to be late Feb / early March ?
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No.
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If ur evo is rooted will u still see the ota update?
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No, but you wouldn't want it anyways. A rooted version would be out <48 hours afterwards, in which you could keep your root.
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No, but you wouldn't want it anyways.
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yes it would. A rooted phone will still get the ota update if it is based on a stock rom. An aosp rom will not however.
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yes it would. A rooted phone will still get the ota update if it is based on a stock rom. An aosp rom will not however.
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Not necessarily. Many ROM devs will alter some of the files so that OTA notifications don't appear by tricking the phone into thinking it has a different version.
I was actually in a corporate Sprint store a couple days ago and overheard two employees talking about the evos "update sometime next (this) month".
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Only if they alter the rom version info, which seems pointless to me.
Some people have no idea what they are talking about. Honeycomb is for tablets only...
my guess is..
we will know by end of feb.
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SE Turkey Support Center has replied that mail , as the answer of "when will x10 get 2.2?" Since it is in Turkish you will not understand what it says and let me translate it for you.
SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011. Works are still going on for 2.2 version. For further info , you may visit bla bla..
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So Q2 2011 is the date..
Edit 1 week later
They have sent another mail about that mail (the one above) saying that:
"We would like to correct the statement that we have told you in the previous mail about Android 2.2 version. The information that has been given to you by SE Customer Service is not true We are sorry about the misinforming..
I guess Jeff's investigation worked out Cheers
already have 2.2 on mine waiting for next version of AOSP that TeamX10 are working on. I dont want another SE ROM on my phone unless i have to have one
Thanks for sharing that anyway, it will get many people excited!
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SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011.
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What means it will be around q3 2012...
But that's great news, imo! I think they want to make amends for all the delays with 2.1.
Well... 2.1, then Dual-touch, then 2.2... Sounds like an almost apropriate "excuse-us" for me.
hmm...the words i got is different, so i would recommend not to put up all hopes to the words that they gave out. I will try to confirm from my side too whether the info is correct. This is due to the new handsets are pushing out with 2.3. Also, the end of life cycle of the X10 is Q1 2011, and SE usually doesn't bring out updates for its product after its EOL (Same policy with all companies). Thanks for the info though!
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hmm...the words i got is different, so i would recommend not to put up all hopes to the words that they gave out. I will try to confirm from my side too whether the info is correct. This is due to the new handsets are pushing out with 2.3. Also, the end of life cycle of the X10 is Q1 2011, and SE usually doesn't bring out updates for its product after its EOL (Same policy with all companies). Thanks for the info though!
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I thought I saw on their site product life was 2 years.
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I thought I saw on their site product life was 2 years.
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Yes. It is two years indeed.
So how much time do we have until EOF then?
Well.. x10 was born (in the UK at least).. end of March 2010.. so... March 2012.
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Well.. x10 was born (in the UK at least).. end of March 2010.. so... March 2012.
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Yep. March 2012 seems like the correct date.
correct date for warranty, but cell phone companies doesn't produce the same phone for more than 1 year, with some exceptions of course.
We're not talking about warranty - SE have committed to support the X10 with software updates for 2 years.. so it would go "end of life" March 2012.
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Yep. March 2012 seems like the correct date.
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EDIT: OK i found your source on their site. EOL for retail will be in March, but support wise, who knows. It will be UP to 2 years, but I doubt they will push it that far with the rapidly changing Android version.
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SE Turkey Support Center has replied that mail , as the answer of "when will x10 get 2.2?" Since it is in Turkish you will not understand what it says and let me translate it for you.
SE X10 will get the 2.2 update at the second quarter of 2011. Works are still going on for 2.2 version. For further info , you may visit bla bla..
So Q2 2011 is the date..
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Given my limited Turkish, I think it reads something more along the lines of:
Ha! fools - do you honestly think you're going to get 2.2 in this lifetime. As an absolute best, products we release in 2011 may get a 2.2 upgrade, providing it is at least 3 or 4 steps behind the current Android release
Like I say, my Turkish is pretty poor, but I think that's the gist of it...
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correct date for warranty, but cell phone companies doesn't produce the same phone for more than 1 year, with some exceptions of course.
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I think you have it reversed, Warranty is 1yr, support is 2 yrs.
"This Limited Warranty will last for a period of one (1)
year as from the original date of purchase of the Product"
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EDIT: OK i found your source on their site. EOL for retail will be in March, but support wise, who knows. It will be UP to 2 years, but I doubt they will push it that far with the rapidly changing Android version.
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Great. I have been a SE user since 1997 (Ericsson prior to 2001). All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.
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Great. I have been a SE user since 1997. All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.
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Actually Sony Ericsson started in 2001
just to let you know as you might got confused with Sony itself or Ericsson
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Actually Sony Ericsson started in 2001
just to let you know as you might got confused with Sony itself or Ericsson
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Yeah sorry. I meant Ericsson which then became Sony Ericsson. Thanks
I think we should better lobby with SE to release the 2.3 update rather than blabbering on about Froyo, given SE have already spent their resources on upgraging to 2.3. Would be a viable thing for them to do as well.
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Yeah sorry. I meant Ericsson which then became Sony Ericsson. Thanks
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Yep thought so
Missing Ericsson from the 90s
I think we should better lobby with SE to release the 2.3 update rather than blabbering on about Froyo, given SE have already spent their resources on upgraging to 2.3. Would be a viable thing for them to do as well.
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I do believe the next Xperia will be 2.2 and updated to 2.3.... or they might jump onto 2.3 in their X12
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Great. I have been a SE user since 1997 (Ericsson prior to 2001). All of my phones since that time have all been SE with the exception of a few months using Alcatel. My most recent phone was the C902i which was released summer 2008. I have had a firmware upgrade 3 times since then. The most recent one was back in March or April of this year. You can say all you want about SE being late releasing updates but, they do not abandon their phones. Unlike Samsung, which my wife uses, who abandon them a few months after release. They may have changed now but, that is my experience with them.
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woah woah woah, calm down please, I have not mentioned ONE WORD about SE being late. All I'm saying is whether the info is correct. We (SE and I) have had times where the customer support are not well informed. We've seen MANY cases here since before the 2.1 update. I never said SE will abandon their phones either, but internal people (like me) would know when the EOL of each handset is, and they only last 1 year. 1 1/2 AT MOST. Aino got extended due to the new Classic edition release, but they're the only exception so far. So please don't start bashing on me, I was just suggesting and warn about the info, not to bash on SE.
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I do believe the next Xperia will be 2.2 and updated to 2.3.... or they might jump onto 2.3 in their X12
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The devs got 2.3 update since last weekend on the new handsets. SE skipped 2.2 and went straight from 2.1 update-1 to 2.3 on the new handsets (Our X10 will still receive the update-2 however, the update-1 on the new handsets was only for debugging) So MR is already wrong on their facts, and I'm not surprised since Eldar isn't the one who wrote it.
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We're here live at Google I/O, and the folks from Mountain View have just shared something rather sweet -- a coalition of manufacturers and carriers committed to making sure their Android devices receive the very latest updates. All four major US carriers (and Vodafone) as well as HTC, Samsung, Sony Ericsson, LG and Motorola are on board, and all will guarantee you timely upgrades to the latest version of Android for eighteen months after release, provided the hardware's capable. Now that's change we can believe in.
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Source: Engadget.com
I believe it's too little too late for our beloved X10's
could be a little too late but seeing how quickly manufacturers tend to do upgrades and considering the fact that the 1 and a half year old X10 IS getting Gingerbread... doesn't seem that bad, could be worse (aka Motodesk...) and, either the costumers feedback or the really awesome work devs do over here, it's nice seeing Sony Ericsson coming to an agreement of having the latest Android version on the devices
Haha. That is awesome. 18 months. Right about the time your 2 year contract is up in most places where there is carrier subsidy. Gives you about 6 months to think about what your next phone will be...otherwise you'll be stuck on an "old" OS version after that.
Still, it is pretty cool that they have an update policy in place now. All things considered, 18 months is actually decent; there could be lots of hardware improvements in addition to the OS improvements in that time, unless phone technology plateaus like computers did a while back before picking up again. But it would be hilarious if the phone companies released an update the day after the 18 months are up...
i belive these will go hand in hand with the new arc play neo and newer xperia minis!
x10 wont recieve any futher updates above 2.3.3
its to late to our x10 , we must trust in our xda dev
Note that this is a policy for this year's phones and beyond, and does not apply to our X10s. Though the fact that we are getting the GB update is awesome.
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18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
Terul said:
18 months is hardly decent in the mobile business... especially in regards to Android.
18 months ago brings us back to the launch of Android Eclair. With this policy, SE would have been totally fine letting us run Android 1.6 until April 26 2011.
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What??
Did you read it? It is saying 18 months of getting updates as they roll out from google, meaning we would already be on gingerbread.....
18 months of guaranteed timely updates is awesome, and unparalleled so far in the world of mobile smartphones
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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Terul said:
Maybe I am confused, but I believe Gingerbread was released in December 2010. 18 months from that takes us to June 2012.
If I'm wrong please let me know.
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You are not understanding what this means....
It isn't saying 18 months between updates, it is saying up until 18 months after the phone is put out you will get every update as it is released, so no waiting around for companies to release their own "custom" versions and getting left behind. Meaning we would have gotten gingerbread immediately.
Just read it over a couple times and saw where I mis-read what it said. I was assuming 18 months after release of the OS not 18 months of the release for the device.
Cheers
Willey1986 said:
What a huge joke. 18 months IF the hardware is capable? So what? 1 update and for some stupid reason the hardware cannot handle the next update.
Nothing will change except for later updates because now they have to provide an update within 18 months not even close to the stock release date like some manufacturers do already.
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well they can't release tablet software on a smartphone that isn't the same resolution, etc.....
I think that is more so what they mean.
Also, some phones released have been released with very outdated specs (i.e.- all of SE's new lineup) so if they release a dual core specific version of android, that would be sony's fault, not googles.
This sounds like a positive move to me.
To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
Horayken said:
I guess that the las update for ours X10 will be the ice cream sandwich OS, it's a new universal OS designed for all android devices..
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No, the last would be Gingerbread.
Since the X10 would not follow this policy (think this policy only applies to new phones).
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To bad they couldn't implement this sooner... they could have avoided att eol-ing this device with not one update.
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+1000000
At&t is already losing my business. Too little way too late. Add that to billing issues and abhorrent home internet and I'll never go back.
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Now it's just up to handset developers to stay awake & aware.
If they screw around Google will drop them like flies.
This really sound better to me. My next phone will also be Android so at least I will benefit from it then.
Today , I saw on a newspaper this breaking new: Google is going to release an rom called: Ice Cream Sandwich.(This is not a hoax or a joke , It's true 100%)
According to this,Ice Cream Sandwich will work for ALL android phones. The point is that it will have all the features of Android Honeycomb. (They will release in September 2011)
I am not holding my breath on generalized articles till more specifics are available. Apparently, it contains Honeycomb's holographic UI, and, if it does indeed contain eye candy like that, there's a very slim chance it will work like its completely meant to on a Non GPU and ARMv6 phone like the Wildfire.
Not saying that ICS will / may never be seen on the Wildfire. It probably will come, because, it will be open source, unlike Honeycomb. (PS - This applies only if Wildfire devs remain till then. The way devs are abandoning the Wildfire and upgrading to other devices is a bit scary for the already short future of the Wildfire)
Lastly, this is good news for Wildfire owners who own rootable phones. Nothing for those with newer S-ON HBoots.
Also, this doesnt belong here. This post cannot be 'Dev Related' in anyway I see it.
They didn't tell that it will work on ALL devices. They wrote on MOST of today's devices, which are probably only the usual high-end-well-known devices. I guess low-end devices like Wildfire will not manage to run it....
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I`m trying to quote but I only get this.... what does it all mean????!!!???
Cool... ice cream, tastes nice.
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Today , I saw on a newspaper this breaking new: Google is going to release an rom called: Ice Cream Sandwich.(This is not a hoax or a joke , It's true 100%)
According to this,Ice Cream Sandwich will work for ALL android phones. The point is that it will have all the features of Android Honeycomb. (They will release in September 2011)
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WOW really, I think everybody already knows about Ice Cream Sandwich for months now.........
Lets wait and see ...
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They didn't tell that it will work on ALL devices. They wrote on MOST of today's devices, which are probably only the usual high-end-well-known devices. I guess low-end devices like Wildfire will not manage to run it....
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They DID say that it work on ALL devices
Here is few information about it http://gizmodo.com/5800358/what-is-androids-ice-cream-sandwich
Kind of 3D on Wildfire that going to use OpenGL headtracking i doubt it
simple question for simple answer:
so will it work on wildfire or not?
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simple question for simple answer:
so will it work on wildfire or not?
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I don`t have my crystal ball with me, so I`ll go with low to no chances. Maybe a laggy port at most.
Like it was stated before, there are some hardware requirements for the holographic interface that requires a GPU, which the Wildfire doesn't have. However I think Icecream will run like on most other phones which are supported on xda (hence they usually have a GPU on board)
It's fine for me. I'm gonna have my Xoom soon and see all the fancy stuff, and by the time Icecream is available I could slowly think about replacing my Wildfire...
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Like it was stated before, there are some hardware requirements for the holographic interface that requires a GPU, which the Wildfire doesn't have. However I think Icecream will run like on most other phones which are supported on xda (hence they usually have a GPU on board)
It's fine for me. I'm gonna have my Xoom soon and see all the fancy stuff, and by the time Icecream is available I could slowly think about replacing my Wildfire...
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Heard good things about zoom, enjoy
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This is great news
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guys, forget about this hype.... it's just a misinterpretation and it seems everyone is believing it....
Froyo, Gingerbread were also possible to run on any device.... are they available on every phone? NO!
Is Gingerbread officially available for Wildfire? NO!
Will it be officially available for Wildfire soon? NO!
So how come you expect Icecream to be released for Wildfire in any way??? Like written before there will be a custom ROM at best, but due to the missing GPU it will probably suck!
[And please keep in mind: like it was written in another recent thread recently you can't just activate the missing hardware by adding a software driver]
It will probably suck.... yeah yeah.... that's what you guys said when Gingerbread was out. And guess what? The devs proved you wrong. It may have a kind of fallback mode for slow devices.
You're right pal!
Even now I'm still suck with Stock ROM.
All I expect now just able to root it again or looking for another higher spec.
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guys, forget about this hype.... it's just a misinterpretation and it seems everyone is believing it....
Froyo, Gingerbread were also possible to run on any device.... are they available on every phone? NO!
Is Gingerbread officially available for Wildfire? NO!
Will it be officially available for Wildfire soon? NO!
So how come you expect Icecream to be released for Wildfire in any way??? Like written before there will be a custom ROM at best, but due to the missing GPU it will probably suck!
[And please keep in mind: like it was written in another recent thread recently you can't just activate the missing hardware by adding a software driver]
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They said that It would work on every devices dude, that's why it's different from honeycomb.
That's the reason why I said it was a great new
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They said that It would work on every devices dude, that's why it's different from honeycomb.
That's the reason why I said it was a great new
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You are missing his point. Google said it will work, but, the end decision rests on HTC, which is what he was trying to point out.
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Is Gingerbread officially available for Wildfire? NO!
Will it be officially available for Wildfire soon? NO!
So how come you expect Icecream to be released for Wildfire in any way??? Like written before there will be a custom ROM at best, but due to the missing GPU it will probably suck!
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They said that It would work on every devices dude, that's why it's different from honeycomb.
That's the reason why I said it was a great new
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@mtnhan1996 . Seems like u r thinking ice-cream will be officially ported to wildfire (skipping the official gingerbread update). ---------- NO, it will never happen.
And official updates do not just depend on the google's statements. They depend on the device brand to a large extent. That is why GOOGLE branded devices will be updated much earlier and brands like SE will have late/no updates.
And one more thing to recollect is we didn't even had a non-buggy gingerbread sense custom rom yet. And we cant expect htc to give an os update to wildfire without newer htc sense. So, no way with the official update.
I am, and I'll tell you why.
Samsung hasn't even started building a GB ROM for our phone, and that's kind of weird to me, because I would think that they would have something.
I don't remember where I read this, and this could be wrong, but doesn't the carrier has to request the update, and then the manufacturer builds it? (I can be COMPLETELY wrong, so don't hold me to this) If that's true, then we may not see a GB build, because T-Mobile USA wouldn't request it.
Tell me what you think, because this interests me a lot.
Where did you get this info? that they haven't started the gingerbread for us.
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Where did you get this info? that they haven't started the gingerbread for us.
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http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/81421451059671040
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/81257522966700032
There.
They posted the GS4G leak, the Cappy leak, and they have a leak for the Epic 4G.
since there have been no vibrant leaks, it automatically means they have not started building it?
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since there have been no vibrant leaks, it automatically means they have not started building it?
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It's not that, SamFirmware stated (and I honestly believe them, if they found all these leaks for other phones so quickly), that there's no Vibrant (SGH-T959) build, which could mean A LOT of things, possibly something as simple as Samsung is really lazy and doesn't want to upload it, but it would mean more.
I'm just saying, I don't know what's up, but I'd like to know more.
And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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Unfortunately, this is most likely the truth. :/
I hope they don't forget us. All we want is a leak.
Relax, It'll be released in a couple months for sure. Enjoy the new ROM's with working GPS this weekend
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Relax, It'll be released in a couple months for sure. Enjoy the new ROM's with working GPS this weekend
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THAT's the only thing good thing for us about all these leaks, we have working GPS now.
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And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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I fart very fast...
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I noticed that as well. But you have to remember that T-Mobile plays real dirty. Remember when we had 2.2 leaks back late November (JK2)? It didn't become official until #NeverAgain made such a huge PR mess for them that Samsung & T-Mobile had to release it. But it was up until then, that T-Mobile didn't want to update out phones because of the pending MT4G & SGS4G release, dirty mfers...
By the way this issue gets more complicated now with the AT&T merger. AT&T strongly believes that updates are not good for business. From their point of view if they don't do updates it gives users more reasons to upgrade to new phones.
So if TMo was borderline crap about this already, the adoption by AT&T is only going to delay things further.
What does that mean for us, enjoy the awesome roms on xda and forget about TMo.
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Just read da tweets someone should just port from 4g to us
Ya boy
Ya, but Google kind of helped us all out with that. Its not up to the carriers if a phone is going to get an update anymore. If Manufactures want to use Android they have to abide by the 18 month update cycle this goes for carriers too. They have to provided updates to newer versions of Android during the first 18 month of a phones life. Our Vibrants really only have six months left of that 18 though. So don't expect an official Ice Cream Sandwich update. I wish google had been enforcing this rule back in the days of the original cliq and cliq xt. The poor XT didn't even get an update out of 1.5. I think Google has gotten tired of all the negative press that manufactures are developing because of the unwillingness to update phones. Of course as you we all know a lot of this has to do with carriers not wanting these updates or their need for unreasonable software packages they want add to the update packages.
How shock i am? Look at this pic.
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Hmm I don't see it as a problem, well at least as long as we have the vibrant 4g, I'm just waiting for the sgs2, then I'll be gone
Well we cant be mad at samsung as its not there fault its tmobil. Most of us will be moving to hercules or sgs2 anyway so no worries crying over this in my opinion.
Yeah, I think it's time to accept the likelihood that Samsung/T-mo won't be providing much further development or support for the Vibrant given the new product lines. It doesn't mean it'll be obsolete though. Thanks developers!
what does it matter? theres literaly pages upon pages of custom rom's out there that are 100000x BETTER Then what any company puts out in the first place.
im pretty sure for a big majority of people here the first thing they do when they get a new phone is wipe it out and start over fresh.
what is it you want exactly, a bloated gingerbread rom from samsung full of **** you dont need or use?
what a useless thread
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what does it matter? theres literaly pages upon pages of custom rom's out there that are 100000x BETTER Then what any company puts out in the first place.
im pretty sure for a big majority of people here the first thing they do when they get a new phone is wipe it out and start over fresh.
what is it you want exactly, a bloated gingerbread rom from samsung full of **** you dont need or use?
what a useless thread
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Believe me it does matter.
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I was just looking at Engadget, and I saw this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/17/bell-mobility-hints-at-ice-cream-sandwich-release-dates-for-gala/
Here is what the article it says:
"We've come across an internal document from Bell Mobility that's bound to raise the hopes of a few good Canadians. Yes folks, we're talking Ice Cream Sandwich. The carrier to the north estimates that it'll have Android 4.0 ready for the Sensation in February, which is to be followed by the Raider's update in March -- this handset may be more familiar to AT&T customers as the Vivid. Pulling up the rear, users of the Galaxy S II are to expect the upgrade in April, and while the Optimus LTE is also mentioned, there's no specific time frame for that one. Certainly estimated release dates don't always come to fruition, but at least we know what Bell's aiming for, anyway."
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I really hope this estimate is wrong, what do you think?
Kp1. Maybe P = April
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I think that is the date the Galaxy SII will get ICS on that carrier. Remember that a lot of carriers delay updates to their phones so they can be "certified". Also, if we already have a pretty much working build of ICS (give or take a few force closes and battery life), how can it take them so long to polish it?
At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
Bell is very, very slow at releasing official firmware updates. As far as I know the SGSII still comes with their carrier branded 2.3.3
If they're releasing in April and that happens to be at the same time as ICS goes global, I'd be very, very, VERY surprised. Just a possibility.
I will be issed also if it isn't released by February by the latest, if it isn't i think ill be getting a nexus phone next year.
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I will be issed also if it isn't released by February by the latest, if it isn't i think ill be getting a nexus phone next year.
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I think I am going to get the next nexus phone regardless of when we get ICS for the GS2.
to be honest i hope they dont rush it , it isnt just building ics for their hardware it needs intensive testing as well
the sgs2 has shipped over 10 million units now , releasing a firmware with bugs in it could do more harm then good and id rather wait and get a rock solid ics for our phones and for the devs to have a solid base to tweak from
lets face it they got the firmware the phone shipped with pretty dam good and i hope too see a nice stable ics release from them too
i use my phone to much to be using beta software and ive had enough nokias in my time and had enough of unstable buggy firmware and waiting for patches to come to fix the bugs
i think april sounds about right for a genuine samsung firmware that has been fully tested for stabillity and compatabillity with apps and extras
Does not sound like an xda developer member...just sayin'
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At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
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Here we go again!
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Here we go again!
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They do it because they're mean. But I guess they don't like law suits either. Mean.
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This really means nothing for international GS2's. More than likely Samsung's ICS will release in late December/early January and those on XDA will have it looong before Bell in Canada.
Bell is an North America carrier which does not have any Apple vs. Samsung court cases.
Yet, rest of the world do. That's why I can certainly say that Ice Cream Sandwich for SGS II & Galaxy Tabs will be the fastest delivery of an Android distribution (from Google release to End users) Samsung ever made.
That date is for carrier branded phones.
For international phones it would be much sooner.
I'm expecting mid Jan
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how can it take them so long to polish it?
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Dude... Have you ever tried to polish ice cream? Took me ages and it still wasnt that shiney...
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Well let see when is ICS released Foote galaxy S2. There is no even ant sign of CM9. Earlier there was issue of mic not working during call. Now after release of the leak version, lots of stuff are working but unstable, but now no any news of CM9 for galaxy S2. It seems we have to depend on Samsung rather then cm9 team for ICS. Developers pls don't be hurt. Almost all devices are getting ICS except S2. It really feels bad that we are deprived of the same. Thanks
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Hope you guys that live in Europe get the update Asap. Here in Latin America (Brazil), we will receive the update maybe on Q3 2012. But, i really hope that all of us can get CM9 before April.
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Well let see when is ICS released Foote galaxy S2. There is no even ant sign of CM9. Earlier there was issue of mic not working during call. Now after release of the leak version, lots of stuff are working but unstable, but now no any news of CM9 for galaxy S2. It seems we have to depend on Samsung rather then cm9 team for ICS. Developers pls don't be hurt. Almost all devices are getting ICS except S2. It really feels bad that we are deprived of the same. Thanks
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Its actually samsung's fault they haven't got it working yet. Samsung hasn't released kernel sources yet. I think the main obstacle right now for cm9 is the RIL is unstable. Codeworkx said once they can stabilize that they'd probably have a beta soon after. Kernel sources would give the cm9 team what they need to get RIL stable. So when we get that or a leak with stable RIL we should get cm9. I totally believe the cm team will get to the finish line long before Samsung. The other devices already getting alphas and betas of cm9 must just be easier to get working. I've read the galaxy sII is "unique" to code for because of the hardware.
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At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
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There's still a lot of work to be done by Sammy.
They can't release something they don't have - makes sense, doesn't it?
As for the second part of your statement: They did. KP1, nuff said.
Definitely for that carrier.
KP1 is already released and all the major functions work. So another month max it will take to release the stable version.
And I didn't pay 600 US$ to Devs, but Samsung, so it's their responsibility to release it at time, hence I don't give a damn what Devs are doing.
Still I think Samsung should take a little bit of extra time, if it's needed, it's far better to release a Stable version than releasing a non stable one in a hurry. Also Google said that they would like the manufacturers to use 4.0.3 as the base version, so I don't know if Samsung will give us 4.0.1 like KP1 or directly 4.0.3.
Google also wants 4.0.3 as the base version of Ice Cream Sandwich to be used by Android handset manufacturers.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/gsm_galaxy_nexus_gets_402_update_403_announced_already-news-3533.php