I was just looking at Engadget, and I saw this: http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/17/bell-mobility-hints-at-ice-cream-sandwich-release-dates-for-gala/
Here is what the article it says:
"We've come across an internal document from Bell Mobility that's bound to raise the hopes of a few good Canadians. Yes folks, we're talking Ice Cream Sandwich. The carrier to the north estimates that it'll have Android 4.0 ready for the Sensation in February, which is to be followed by the Raider's update in March -- this handset may be more familiar to AT&T customers as the Vivid. Pulling up the rear, users of the Galaxy S II are to expect the upgrade in April, and while the Optimus LTE is also mentioned, there's no specific time frame for that one. Certainly estimated release dates don't always come to fruition, but at least we know what Bell's aiming for, anyway."
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I really hope this estimate is wrong, what do you think?
Kp1. Maybe P = April
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I think that is the date the Galaxy SII will get ICS on that carrier. Remember that a lot of carriers delay updates to their phones so they can be "certified". Also, if we already have a pretty much working build of ICS (give or take a few force closes and battery life), how can it take them so long to polish it?
At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
Bell is very, very slow at releasing official firmware updates. As far as I know the SGSII still comes with their carrier branded 2.3.3
If they're releasing in April and that happens to be at the same time as ICS goes global, I'd be very, very, VERY surprised. Just a possibility.
I will be issed also if it isn't released by February by the latest, if it isn't i think ill be getting a nexus phone next year.
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I will be issed also if it isn't released by February by the latest, if it isn't i think ill be getting a nexus phone next year.
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I think I am going to get the next nexus phone regardless of when we get ICS for the GS2.
to be honest i hope they dont rush it , it isnt just building ics for their hardware it needs intensive testing as well
the sgs2 has shipped over 10 million units now , releasing a firmware with bugs in it could do more harm then good and id rather wait and get a rock solid ics for our phones and for the devs to have a solid base to tweak from
lets face it they got the firmware the phone shipped with pretty dam good and i hope too see a nice stable ics release from them too
i use my phone to much to be using beta software and ive had enough nokias in my time and had enough of unstable buggy firmware and waiting for patches to come to fix the bugs
i think april sounds about right for a genuine samsung firmware that has been fully tested for stabillity and compatabillity with apps and extras
Does not sound like an xda developer member...just sayin'
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jonny68 said:
At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
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Here we go again!
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Here we go again!
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They do it because they're mean. But I guess they don't like law suits either. Mean.
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This really means nothing for international GS2's. More than likely Samsung's ICS will release in late December/early January and those on XDA will have it looong before Bell in Canada.
Bell is an North America carrier which does not have any Apple vs. Samsung court cases.
Yet, rest of the world do. That's why I can certainly say that Ice Cream Sandwich for SGS II & Galaxy Tabs will be the fastest delivery of an Android distribution (from Google release to End users) Samsung ever made.
That date is for carrier branded phones.
For international phones it would be much sooner.
I'm expecting mid Jan
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how can it take them so long to polish it?
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Dude... Have you ever tried to polish ice cream? Took me ages and it still wasnt that shiney...
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Well let see when is ICS released Foote galaxy S2. There is no even ant sign of CM9. Earlier there was issue of mic not working during call. Now after release of the leak version, lots of stuff are working but unstable, but now no any news of CM9 for galaxy S2. It seems we have to depend on Samsung rather then cm9 team for ICS. Developers pls don't be hurt. Almost all devices are getting ICS except S2. It really feels bad that we are deprived of the same. Thanks
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Hope you guys that live in Europe get the update Asap. Here in Latin America (Brazil), we will receive the update maybe on Q3 2012. But, i really hope that all of us can get CM9 before April.
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Well let see when is ICS released Foote galaxy S2. There is no even ant sign of CM9. Earlier there was issue of mic not working during call. Now after release of the leak version, lots of stuff are working but unstable, but now no any news of CM9 for galaxy S2. It seems we have to depend on Samsung rather then cm9 team for ICS. Developers pls don't be hurt. Almost all devices are getting ICS except S2. It really feels bad that we are deprived of the same. Thanks
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Its actually samsung's fault they haven't got it working yet. Samsung hasn't released kernel sources yet. I think the main obstacle right now for cm9 is the RIL is unstable. Codeworkx said once they can stabilize that they'd probably have a beta soon after. Kernel sources would give the cm9 team what they need to get RIL stable. So when we get that or a leak with stable RIL we should get cm9. I totally believe the cm team will get to the finish line long before Samsung. The other devices already getting alphas and betas of cm9 must just be easier to get working. I've read the galaxy sII is "unique" to code for because of the hardware.
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At this stage i have to say im a bit pissed off that we still haven't been given ICS for our SGSII why cant they just release all the necessary code required so developers can do their thing.
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There's still a lot of work to be done by Sammy.
They can't release something they don't have - makes sense, doesn't it?
As for the second part of your statement: They did. KP1, nuff said.
Definitely for that carrier.
KP1 is already released and all the major functions work. So another month max it will take to release the stable version.
And I didn't pay 600 US$ to Devs, but Samsung, so it's their responsibility to release it at time, hence I don't give a damn what Devs are doing.
Still I think Samsung should take a little bit of extra time, if it's needed, it's far better to release a Stable version than releasing a non stable one in a hurry. Also Google said that they would like the manufacturers to use 4.0.3 as the base version, so I don't know if Samsung will give us 4.0.1 like KP1 or directly 4.0.3.
Google also wants 4.0.3 as the base version of Ice Cream Sandwich to be used by Android handset manufacturers.
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Source:
http://www.gsmarena.com/gsm_galaxy_nexus_gets_402_update_403_announced_already-news-3533.php
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I am, and I'll tell you why.
Samsung hasn't even started building a GB ROM for our phone, and that's kind of weird to me, because I would think that they would have something.
I don't remember where I read this, and this could be wrong, but doesn't the carrier has to request the update, and then the manufacturer builds it? (I can be COMPLETELY wrong, so don't hold me to this) If that's true, then we may not see a GB build, because T-Mobile USA wouldn't request it.
Tell me what you think, because this interests me a lot.
Where did you get this info? that they haven't started the gingerbread for us.
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Where did you get this info? that they haven't started the gingerbread for us.
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http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/81421451059671040
http://twitter.com/#!/SamFirmware/status/81257522966700032
There.
They posted the GS4G leak, the Cappy leak, and they have a leak for the Epic 4G.
since there have been no vibrant leaks, it automatically means they have not started building it?
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since there have been no vibrant leaks, it automatically means they have not started building it?
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It's not that, SamFirmware stated (and I honestly believe them, if they found all these leaks for other phones so quickly), that there's no Vibrant (SGH-T959) build, which could mean A LOT of things, possibly something as simple as Samsung is really lazy and doesn't want to upload it, but it would mean more.
I'm just saying, I don't know what's up, but I'd like to know more.
And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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Unfortunately, this is most likely the truth. :/
I hope they don't forget us. All we want is a leak.
Relax, It'll be released in a couple months for sure. Enjoy the new ROM's with working GPS this weekend
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Relax, It'll be released in a couple months for sure. Enjoy the new ROM's with working GPS this weekend
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THAT's the only thing good thing for us about all these leaks, we have working GPS now.
djquick said:
And they probably won't, at least not in the near future since there are a ****load of new 4G phones coming out in the near future. The Vibrant is old news already like yesterdays dirty laundry. Technology advances faster than you can fart.
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I fart very fast...
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I noticed that as well. But you have to remember that T-Mobile plays real dirty. Remember when we had 2.2 leaks back late November (JK2)? It didn't become official until #NeverAgain made such a huge PR mess for them that Samsung & T-Mobile had to release it. But it was up until then, that T-Mobile didn't want to update out phones because of the pending MT4G & SGS4G release, dirty mfers...
By the way this issue gets more complicated now with the AT&T merger. AT&T strongly believes that updates are not good for business. From their point of view if they don't do updates it gives users more reasons to upgrade to new phones.
So if TMo was borderline crap about this already, the adoption by AT&T is only going to delay things further.
What does that mean for us, enjoy the awesome roms on xda and forget about TMo.
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Just read da tweets someone should just port from 4g to us
Ya boy
Ya, but Google kind of helped us all out with that. Its not up to the carriers if a phone is going to get an update anymore. If Manufactures want to use Android they have to abide by the 18 month update cycle this goes for carriers too. They have to provided updates to newer versions of Android during the first 18 month of a phones life. Our Vibrants really only have six months left of that 18 though. So don't expect an official Ice Cream Sandwich update. I wish google had been enforcing this rule back in the days of the original cliq and cliq xt. The poor XT didn't even get an update out of 1.5. I think Google has gotten tired of all the negative press that manufactures are developing because of the unwillingness to update phones. Of course as you we all know a lot of this has to do with carriers not wanting these updates or their need for unreasonable software packages they want add to the update packages.
How shock i am? Look at this pic.
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Hmm I don't see it as a problem, well at least as long as we have the vibrant 4g, I'm just waiting for the sgs2, then I'll be gone
Well we cant be mad at samsung as its not there fault its tmobil. Most of us will be moving to hercules or sgs2 anyway so no worries crying over this in my opinion.
Yeah, I think it's time to accept the likelihood that Samsung/T-mo won't be providing much further development or support for the Vibrant given the new product lines. It doesn't mean it'll be obsolete though. Thanks developers!
what does it matter? theres literaly pages upon pages of custom rom's out there that are 100000x BETTER Then what any company puts out in the first place.
im pretty sure for a big majority of people here the first thing they do when they get a new phone is wipe it out and start over fresh.
what is it you want exactly, a bloated gingerbread rom from samsung full of **** you dont need or use?
what a useless thread
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what does it matter? theres literaly pages upon pages of custom rom's out there that are 100000x BETTER Then what any company puts out in the first place.
im pretty sure for a big majority of people here the first thing they do when they get a new phone is wipe it out and start over fresh.
what is it you want exactly, a bloated gingerbread rom from samsung full of **** you dont need or use?
what a useless thread
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Believe me it does matter.
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Sign the petition here: http://www.change.org/petitions/htt...ndwich-version-for-users-of-the-samsung-i9000
facebook petition page: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Petition-Android-40-ICS-for-Samsung-Galaxy-S/311749272184543
4195 signatures! keep signing if you haven't yet done so.
theres no point in starting or doing one as they dont work... no body knows that ics is or is not coming to the galaxy s 1 only samaung dose
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theres no point in starting or doing one as they dont work... no body knows that ics is or is not coming to the galaxy s 1 only samaung dose
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they do work to some extent. samsung will probably decide the millions of sgs1 owners can just upgrade to a sgs2 or a sgn, and we'll be ignored unless we make our opinion known.
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they do work to some extent. samsung will probably decide the millions of sgs1 owners can just upgrade to a sgs2 or a sgn, and we'll be ignored unless we make our opinion known.
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Making our opinions known will not change the fact that it will cost Samsung money, and possibly prevent them from making money off of us buying newer phones.
If you want it that bad, either cross your fingers or wait for an unofficial release.
Honestly really not much point in doing so. I'd be surprised if Samsung made ICS available to the i9000, but however no petition will make them listen. Developing ICS for the i9000 will cost them a lot of money they will not be willing to spend as the phone is outdated by the SGS 2.
All this threads about ICS while it's not released yet make me feel concerned about xda mods mental sanity for the months to come.
I would MUCH rather we got a petition together to get Samsung to release driver details and source code for the i9000 so that the Cyanogen team can fix the RIL and 720p recording issues
Ivegottheskill said:
I would MUCH rather we got a petition together to get Samsung to release driver details and source code for the i9000 so that the Cyanogen team can fix the RIL and 720p recording issues
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if they do, it will be much easier porting ICS(or anything else, really) to our lovely device, where can i sign?
start a petiton stating if samsung drops firmware support for their still best selled device you will move to a brand that can deliver such updates - as "Galaxy Nexus" branch or any other phone maker that will continue to support their devices not promote/force you to use their latest devices to get updated firmware
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start a petiton stating if samsung drops firmware support for their still best selled device you will move to a brand that can deliver such updates - as "Galaxy Nexus" branch or any other phone maker that will continue to support their devices not promote/force you to use their latest devices to get updated firmware
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Well, I am starting to think that we can't find one that has Android in it... Look even Google doesn't support their Nexus One that is more than capable to handle ICS. In less than 2 years time they will drop support for Galaxy Nexus claiming it is too old again... It's simply a shame.
It hurts me to say this but I am starting to admit that Android has failed in its purpose of proving that it was different in terms of policies than Apple. It's the same s***....
nexus one never was a primary phone for google - it was nexuss, but still i am suprised that they droped 'nexus one'
at least google will not get distorted like samsung with all their devices to release buggy firmwares
google devices always her latest and well developed updates & support - samsung fails to do that
and on the top of that 2 years is normal contract lenght (and most of us got 'contract phones')
so best time to sign new 'pact with the devil' and get new google phone
if nothing will change from samsung on that i will surley not buy samsung phone (but samsung+google yes due to 'working updates/support)
to be honest i see even wave/bada getting more attention/love from samsung
check this vid: [Wave 3] Official Live Demo
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nexus one never was a primary phone for google - it was nexuss, but still i am suprised that they droped 'nexus one'
at least google will not get distorted like samsung with all their devices to release buggy firmwares
google devices always her latest and well developed updates & support - samsung fails to do that
and on the top of that 2 years is normal contract lenght (and most of us got 'contract phones')
so best time to sign new 'pact with the devil' and get new google phone
if nothing will change from samsung on that i will surley not buy samsung phone (but samsung+google yes due to 'working updates/support)
to be honest i see even wave/bada getting more attention/love from samsung
check this vid: [Wave 3] Official Live Demo
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Don't be so sure that Google will be better than Samsung in that department. I don't think Nexus S will get a new major Android update after ICS but let's see...
This idea that you have to buy another phone every 2 years is completely out of reality. I don't want to spend 400€ for a new phone every 2 years. It's completely unacceptable. And if this rumor that I9000 is not getting it becomes true, then I will try my best to discourage Android for anyone I know and is thinking in getting a new phone. I suggest everyone else that feels like this to do the same and try to stop these companies of doing those practices.
NexusS will be supported until the phone that will follow Galaxy Nexus, something simmilar that we witness now
i get my phone for free every 2 years =) thats why i do not see a problem in exchanging it in this time period :]
trust me, no ics for i9000 is not an option, i9000 is their best seller for the moment.
leaving all shose people wo latest firmware upgrade would not be logic.
they are aware how many people would be pissed at them due that fact.
they were ahead when releasing sgs/nexuss now competition is catching up very quick
i do notthink that they are ready to piss so many people
question is how long will it be supported with ics updates and i guess this will decrease untill sgs3 release after witch it will stop
you all need to take a chill pill. think of it this way: until samsung will release an update for the existing phones they will release an ICS device and after that they will try, hopefully, to update them and that could take some time and i don't think they will update a phone that will be so "old". it's logical... if they update the sgs and sgs2 to ICS why would you buy the next phone? if you were stuck on 2.1 or 2.2 on your sgs you would have taken into consideration to buy sgs2 but knowing that the differences between sgs and sgs2 are in terms of camera proc and size you are not willing to do this... damn that was a long message that no one will read
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you all need to take a chill pill. think of it this way: until samsung will release an update for the existing phones they will release an ICS device and after that they will try, hopefully, to update them and that could take some time and i don't think they will update a phone that will be so "old". it's logical... if they update the sgs and sgs2 to ICS why would you buy the next phone? if you were stuck on 2.1 or 2.2 on your sgs you would have taken into consideration to buy sgs2 but knowing that the differences between sgs and sgs2 are in terms of camera proc and size you are not willing to do this... damn that was a long message that no one will read
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Your thinking is wrong. If Samsung doesn't update their 400€ phones that are 1 year and a half old (And don't even care to do proper QA), then why should you buy another one that will get no updates after that period, even when the hardware can handle it very well? And then you look at Apple that updates their old 3GS (that runs at least twice as fast as the Galaxy S stock)... What reason has Apple to update the 3GS when they just launched the 4S? This is how you gain customer loyalty!
If at least the phone worked well stock, then I wouldn't complain much. But take JVT firmware as an example. It has so many bugs and is so slow!!! How can they do it with this hardware??????????????????
i will not buy SGS2/3 if i will not see ICS on SGS1, i would not want to get stuck again with no updates because they want to sell me their next, new phone
also with ICS on SGS i am aware that it could be missing some features from Galaxy Nexus version, and that it will not be as fast as on newer devices
i do not think that i am the only one that when considering GT-I9000 purchase was looking at this info/fact also
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@boliveira2 it's called consumption market... they want you to buy the newest ones otherwise they could just try to develop and optimize android os for all version (a little exaggeration i know) so you could run it on any phone... cyanogen released 7.1 for the Moto Cliq that didn't even get a 1.6 update here but they managed to do something about it... it's all marketing... why would they waste money and time and man power to update an old phone? i know it is disappointing, i am in the same boat as you... i'm not happy about this but this is it... i hope that i am wrong but... BTW is gingerbread official for all sgs's? i mean anyone can upgrade using kies?
us carrier variants seems to have froyo still same as some countries for gt-i9000 did not upgraded due to the bugs in gb (ex poland)
looks like samsung got overwhelmed by the variety of devices they support and obligations to google to update asap to latest firmware version (that "with Google" partnership) what resulted in overall mess ;]
I think in the end if you want the latest updates for a long time you have to buy the Google phones, period.
It's a shame but that's just the way it is. I think if many people turned their noses at the Samsung/HTC/Motorola-branded phones until they improve their updates they might actually get the picture. As it is most people rush out to get the latest, shiniest closed-driver carrier-specific device and then complain about updates later.
Perhaps this will change now that many Android users are more experienced and have learned their lesson, like so many of us here. If a huge chunk of us ignore devices other than Nexus they might get the point. One thing they may have to do if they really get serious about better updates is tell the carriers, especially the glacial ones here in North America, to screw off and stay out of it. Apple and Nexus phones get their frequent and timely updates mostly because the carriers are out of the loop.
What most have also forgotten is Google want ICS to stop fragmentation but what's happened is its made it worse.
Doing a petition to google to force samsung to roll out ICS
Samsung are clearly using this to sell devices as always
Then after that you have networks to sort as Vodafone in the UK have not released any updates to the Galaxy s past 2.3.3
Google phones get updates faster then from samsung and networks but the Galaxy Nexus is not that good i'll wait for the Motorola Nexus next time round
The rom is designed to work on the Nexus s and the specs are almost the same as the Galaxy s
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Goes by and no sign of JB for the 8013. Sadness. I really thought it would be out this week. Anybody have any whispering about the wifi 8013 updates ?
Here are some things that are odd compared to Samsung's normal s/w roll outs:
1) The German ROM was for a carrier and not Samsung's own unlocked devices that are sold direct-to-consumer. Typically they roll-out their own devices first and carrier's generally prefer that so they and their customers aren't guinea pigs. So while a production ROM by its quality and features it could still be a leak. Are there any N8000 owners from Germany here that received the OTA directly rather than installing it via Odin like the majority of us? If so was your Note from mobilcom-debitel?
2) The German ROM is 3G. Historically Wi-Fi devices have received intermediate updates before 3G devices. For the OG G-Tab ICS update one region got a Wi-Fi update (UK) and another region got a 3G update (Italy). They were both released on the same day and were for Samsung's unlocked devices sold direct. The week after that other regions began receiving both updates.
3) There are no carrier specific apps or branding on the German ROM. And the lock screen short cuts were disabled but still packaged in the ROM as people that changed their CSC got them back. Both items are unusual.
4) Samsung released another 4.0.4 update for Argentina after the German JB ROM was outed. That doesn't make a lot of sense with JB so seemingly close to done. I've been using the German ROM since the day it became available and it's rock solid so it wouldn't seem as if there's a lot left for Samsung to do on it.
So it could all mean something or all mean nothing. But I've never seen Samsung treat a major update like this one by releasing a single carrier ROM then stopping.
I am not expecting JB until at least around Christmas (it could even be later)
I'm not even expecting a JB update.
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JB is just another rom. I can't see why it matters so much if we get it now or in a couple of months time.
All I wish for is an update to fix that bloody keyboard pop-up bug after exiting an app to home screen.
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JB is just another rom. I can't see why it matters so much if we get it now or in a couple of months time.
All I wish for is an update to fix that bloody keyboard pop-up bug after exiting an app to home screen.
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Im using the German JB release on my N8013 and trust me you want it. It makes this tablet much faster overall. That and additiinal features is why it matters so much.
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JB is just another rom but it does bring host of updates which enhances the tablet by many folds I am also still on ICS and waiting for official JB release but day by day tilting towards rooting my tab and installing JB rom
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I can only speculate on the oddity based on my personal experience, which I will relate by way of a story.
Back in the mid to late '90s I worked for U.S. Robotics. One day they called a meeting to introduce the features of the latest software being made available for the Courier modems, the only flashable modems we had at the time. The engineer that was talking, very frankly, explained that we were adding the stupidest feature ever to our modems and that it was going to cause a ton of support calls. He went on to explain that the reason they added the feature was that a saleman had promised it to big client and that the direct sale of 20,000 modems hinged on the feature being added. Considering we made well over $100 on a direct sale, that was over $2 million profit and about $12 million in total sales.
So it's entirely possible that Samsung was looking at a big order from someone in Germany that was contingent on JB being released on the Note 10.1. Money will make companies do a lot of strange things.
Just flash the 8000 JB and change the governor to onDemand. Then you have a flawless Jelly Bean Rom until the 8013/8010 firmware is released.
My husband has an Asus Transformer Infinity tablet and he got JB last weekend. I have a Galaxy Nexus phone and got JB in Sept. He has a GIII phone and has no JB. I would expect he will get his JB update for his phone before I get an update for my Note 10.1. But then again, we are on Verizon. Maybe neither of us will get the update. I really don't understand Samsung not giving US Note owners JB. I know about how awful Verizon is about updating the phones.
Well I can now guarantee that JB will be released very shortly for the 8013. How do I know this? Because I finally broke down and flashed the German version on mine :victory:
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Im using the German JB release on my N8013 and trust me you want it. It makes this tablet much faster overall. That and additiinal features is why it matters so much.
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I don't want to reset my device and have to start again.
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I don't want to reset my device and have to start again.
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You don't have to. It only replaces the PDA (MD5) file which doesn't affect your apps, settings, and data if you use desktop Odin to update it. If you're on a 8010/8013 you will see some funkiness because the 3G ROM is looking for h/w that it can't find.
Looking at samsungs firmware update history at sammobile, the updates for all the other devices / regions comes around a month after the first update. So itll be december for us sadly :s
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Well I can now guarantee that JB will be released very shortly for the 8013. How do I know this? Because I finally broke down and flashed the German version on mine :victory:
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:laugh: I was thinking exactly the same, sometimes on monday...
But somewhat tells me that the actual JB was not completely finished, not buggy but usability flaws:
Annotate pictures, ok you can draw on the back of a picture, fine but to view it you get in that (paint)-editor again
did that make sense ? or did I overview something? Would be nicer with an airview support.:fingers-crossed:
Also in S-note when pressing the button on the s-pen while hovering, nice that it changes the pre-selectable writing tools (pen,pencil,brush,eraser) and cycle only through them. Edit: (works now)
My language is set to German, but got some French/ English texts...
I did 3 screenshots but didn't find out how I've done it! I know about the sw-button and the s-pen+button+press, but I was just looking through menues. Strange...
But otherwise, I like it. SApp- and Play-store works, also I didn't lose any data on the InternalSD (did move Tita. & Nand. backup to the extSD and computer)
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You don't have to. It only replaces the PDA (MD5) file which doesn't affect your apps, settings, and data if you use desktop Odin to update it. If you're on a 8010/8013 you will see some funkiness because the 3G ROM is looking for h/w that it can't find.
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Barry,
So if i odin via desktop the MD5 without rooting, flashing cwm or sorts, i can get JB on 8013 without changing csc? I stopped reading the WIP thread because i saw too many people flashing etc. Repeatedly. Ive had quite a bit of Samsungs so im familiar with odin - whats the quicksst route without losing data? Will Samsung apps work on the 8013 even though it wont find a sim card ?
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Barry,
So if i odin via desktop the MD5 without rooting, flashing cwm or sorts, i can get JB on 8013 without changing csc?
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Yes. I haven't been keeping up with the WIP thread but I'd guess their trying to figure out how to disable the 3G features in the ROM so it doesn't do strange things. I have a N8000 so anything I've shared is from using the ROM on it; not a Wi-Fi Note. So if your fellow Wi-Fi brethren have flashed the 3G ROM and the only issue has been wireless-related flakiness you should be fine. I'd read up some more on their experiences and make sure it's something you're comfortable with. I like JB but I was perfectly content with 4.0.4 which was very solid.
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1) The German ROM was for a carrier and not Samsung's own unlocked devices that are sold direct-to-consumer. Typically they roll-out their own devices first and carrier's generally prefer that so they and their customers aren't guinea pigs. So while a production ROM by its quality and features it could still be a leak. Are there any N8000 owners from Germany here that received the OTA directly rather than installing it via Odin like the majority of us? If so was your Note from mobilcom-debitel?
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This hasn't been the case for some time - for example, Ice Cream Sandwich came to unlocked Galaxy S2 last, after all the carrier-branded ones got it.
The rationale is that Samsung needs to tailor (test and fix bugs) each carrier branded device to that particular carrier's network, but the unlocked one needs to be tailored to *all* carrier networks and so needs to benefit from the sum of all the bug fixing/testing from all the other carriers. I don't necessarily agree, it's just what was said at the time.
I've never seen Samsung treat a major update like this one by releasing a single carrier ROM then stopping.
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It could mean that they discovered bugs that needed to be fixed. They may be treating this german release a little like a public beta.
Here's another possible reason we're not hearing anything. The SGS3 JB roll-out doesn't appear to be going very well. This is from the SGS3 forum. If Samsung's rolling back SGS3 updates that's not a good thing for us as I'm sure the SGS3 is a higher-priority product based on sales alone and may be diverting attention from other devices. Purely speculation of course.
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I GOT THIS MESSAGE FROM SAMSUNG MOBILE INDIA
Dear Mr. Mahendrakar,
We acknowledge the receipt of your mail. We value the importance of information asked and we are here to assist you.
In response to your email regarding updation of the Samsung handset model GT-I9300 in android jelly bean version 4.1, we would like to inform you that android jelly bean version 4.1 was released earlier by Samsung India for Galaxy S III but now it rolled back due to some technical reasons, so we request you to kindly co-operate with us till the future release of Android v4.1 (Jelly bean) for mentioned handset and stay with us till then.
Any update in this regard will be conveyed to you by various means of communication.
We also thank you for your valuable feedback. We are forwarding your feedback to Product Innovation Team. Presently they are looking on same matter.
Regards,
Technical Support Team
Samsung India Electronics Pvt. Ltd.
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It’s been a bit of a roller-coaster when it comes to Jelly Bean on the Galaxy S2. Release dates have been pushed back and back, and there have recently been rumors flying about from Samsung Korea, but a solid release date still eludes S2 owners.
Well now we might actually be getting close to something more definite, as a Samsung spokesperson has stated that Android 4.1 updates will begin rolling out to current S2 owners in the beginning of February, if you’re living in Singapore.
So that’s both good news and bad news I suppose, great news that we are officially moving closer to a release date, but bad news as we still have no idea when the rest of the world will be seeing the update.
I suspect that the official release will fit with the recently information leaked from Samsung Korea, which interestingly has been taken down after it leaked. The leaked image showed the device running Android 4.1.2 and also listed the pre-installed apps and functionality which will ship with the update. Whilst 4.1.2 is not the newest version of Android, the update will contain all of the major Jelly Bean features, such as the updated camera, enhanced notification panel, swipe gesture typing, Google Now, and Project Butter.
So when can users in other regions expect to see the Jelly Bean update? Well it’s hard to say exactly, but we are probably still in for a long wait before we see any updates roll out in Europe or the US, as carriers will still want to tweak their specific versions of the update, and make sure that all their bloatware still works.
The good news is that we are officially etching ever closer, so we should hopefully see the Jelly Bean update roll out across the globe in the months following February.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s2-jelly-bean-update-singapore-147111/
Enough Sammy!
We ain't really playing your game anymore!
I am done with Samsung and It's little JB. I am pretty sure JB that sammy releases won't be no different to ICS (Except for Butter and few other spices).
Sammy -> ***** please! I'm done with ya & your exinos crap!. CM 10.1 \m/
Not interested anymore to Jellybean update for SGS2. Its because of delaying tactics from Samsung. They released Galaxy S2 plus with JB. I think Samsung is focusing on sales for SGS2 plus. So that JB for SGS2 is delayed. Samsung Sucks!
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Neo said:
Enough Sammy!
We ain't really playing your game anymore!
I am done with Samsung and It's little JB. I am pretty sure JB that sammy releases won't be no different to ICS (Except for Butter and few other spices).
Sammy -> ***** please! I'm done with ya & your exinos crap!. CM 10.1 \m/
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+1
cm 10.1 is better anyway.
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I will probably have key lime pie before it is released .Forget it guys.
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I threw cm 10.1 off a rock and the rock broke.
Solid
I think what's really sad is that Samsung is still the fastest third-party company in terms of OS upgrades... :/
Neckon said:
I think what's really sad is that Samsung is still the fastest third-party company in terms of OS upgrades... :/
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This.
I has a sig
Thanks for the beautiful phone sammy.. how ever i wont put stock ROM.. release the source code... thats enuf for us....
carlocarrera said:
cm 10.1 is better anyway.
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Yes but when you are using wifi or 3g its like battery killer.....
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I already Post this please delete this thread
sam77744 said:
It’s been a bit of a roller-coaster when it comes to Jelly Bean on the Galaxy S2. Release dates have been pushed back and back, and there have recently been rumors flying about from Samsung Korea, but a solid release date still eludes S2 owners.
Well now we might actually be getting close to something more definite, as a Samsung spokesperson has stated that Android 4.1 updates will begin rolling out to current S2 owners in the beginning of February, if you’re living in Singapore.
So that’s both good news and bad news I suppose, great news that we are officially moving closer to a release date, but bad news as we still have no idea when the rest of the world will be seeing the update.
I suspect that the official release will fit with the recently information leaked from Samsung Korea, which interestingly has been taken down after it leaked. The leaked image showed the device running Android 4.1.2 and also listed the pre-installed apps and functionality which will ship with the update. Whilst 4.1.2 is not the newest version of Android, the update will contain all of the major Jelly Bean features, such as the updated camera, enhanced notification panel, swipe gesture typing, Google Now, and Project Butter.
So when can users in other regions expect to see the Jelly Bean update? Well it’s hard to say exactly, but we are probably still in for a long wait before we see any updates roll out in Europe or the US, as carriers will still want to tweak their specific versions of the update, and make sure that all their bloatware still works.
The good news is that we are officially etching ever closer, so we should hopefully see the Jelly Bean update roll out across the globe in the months following February.
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http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s2-jelly-bean-update-singapore-147111/
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I already post a thread like this please delete this one.
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sam77744 said:
It’s been a bit of a roller-coaster when it comes to Jelly Bean on the Galaxy S2. Release dates have been pushed back and back, and there have recently been rumors flying about from Samsung Korea, but a solid release date still eludes S2 owners.
Well now we might actually be getting close to something more definite, as a Samsung spokesperson has stated that Android 4.1 updates will begin rolling out to current S2 owners in the beginning of February, if you’re living in Singapore.
So that’s both good news and bad news I suppose, great news that we are officially moving closer to a release date, but bad news as we still have no idea when the rest of the world will be seeing the update.
I suspect that the official release will fit with the recently information leaked from Samsung Korea, which interestingly has been taken down after it leaked. The leaked image showed the device running Android 4.1.2 and also listed the pre-installed apps and functionality which will ship with the update. Whilst 4.1.2 is not the newest version of Android, the update will contain all of the major Jelly Bean features, such as the updated camera, enhanced notification panel, swipe gesture typing, Google Now, and Project Butter.
So when can users in other regions expect to see the Jelly Bean update? Well it’s hard to say exactly, but we are probably still in for a long wait before we see any updates roll out in Europe or the US, as carriers will still want to tweak their specific versions of the update, and make sure that all their bloatware still works.
The good news is that we are officially etching ever closer, so we should hopefully see the Jelly Bean update roll out across the globe in the months following February.
link-
http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s2-jelly-bean-update-singapore-147111/
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I post the same thread before you.
gop97 said:
I already post a thread like this please delete this one.
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I post the same thread before you.
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Actually looking at the datestamps on the posts, this one was created before yours...
1997. Hmm. Maybe let's make all forums layout the same, as Facebook looks. Then everyone would know, how to use all functions.
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What is samsung singing to all their S2 customers:
Opps.... i did it again!! :angel:
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Dont forget one thing... Samsung only Updates devices because they want...
Because if they dont... You wanted a New software device, you got to buy a New one... So wait and be pacient... Relax...
When you get Jelly Bean... In one week you all say... I want key lime Now.... 5.0 please Men....
And they will say... Oooh Now you want a 5.0? Buy a New one... Get it?
They do that because they want it...
Dont stress out.. Just wait...
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Actually looking at the datestamps on the posts, this one was created before yours...
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yes, and is a op.thanks bro
I am started hating these kind of thread...
Please anyone block or remove these kind of threads or even start ignoring sammobile for fake news november dec jan feb just get lost,so sick of these news...happy with ics and i am not waiting anymore...first was due to s3 now due to s 2 plus wow i miss is s 2 advance is also on line...
Nicko80..... +1
All this whinging about how crap Samsung is is doing my head in. There is a reason they are one of the biggest sellers of devices and that their phones are top of the hackers pile. The devices and the updates are among the best out there.
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And to all guys that are thinking to go buy a Sony Z.. Think twice... Why?
Because you all cry for Updates from Samsung... Well.. Sony didnt Update none of their old devices to Jelly Bean... Go buy a Sony Z and cry later for 4.2.1 and for 5.0...You all will cry for a Samsung...
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And to all guys that are thinking to go buy a Sony Z.. Think twice... Why?
Because you all cry for Updates from Samsung... Well.. Sony didnt Update none of their old devices to Jelly Bean... Go buy a Sony Z and cry later for 4.2.1 and for 5.0...You all will cry for a Samsung...
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Sony will run flawleslly custom roms like CM, with butter and all the stuff, so you will not have to cry or wait for Sony to update or release sources or whatever.
With Android 4.4 KitKat, Google is aiming to bring a better Android experience to the masses through features such as reduced memory consumption on low-memory (512MB) and low-cost devices, and that has had a lot of people hoping manufacturers will bring the new version of Android to some of their mid-range devices that may not otherwise be eligible for another update. Well, according to an image we received in our inbox, Samsung is thinking of doing just that, and is considering the update for some of its mid-range and low-end devices.
In a document SAMSUNG has decided to release KITKAT update for SAMSUNG GALAXY S III Mini.Yo can see in below image :
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if you read the article or even the image it says its under investigation so its not decided!
Gabhain said:
if you read the article or even the image it says its under investigation so its not decided!
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hmm....I think you need to read the whole article,click on the source.
Really nice news - when it's true. I believe WHEN we get 4.4 it will come after Xmas, maybe january. They must sale their flagship S4. Anyway - the ACE 2 is also in the list, that's great, my wife has it and i really like to play around with this little thing. I mean the phone
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Really nice news - when it's true. I believe WHEN we get 4.4 it will come after Xmas, maybe january. They must sale their flagship S4. Anyway - the ACE 2 is also in the list, that's great, my wife has it and i really like to play around with this little thing. I mean the phone
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i dont think we will get the kitkat and even if by some miracle we do get it, who needs it while we have maclaw, he even fixed the camera
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hmm....I think you need to read the whole article,click on the source.
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i have read the source friend, it specifically says "However, just because Samsung is considering the update doesn’t mean the updates will actually come" so when you say "In a document SAMSUNG has decided to release KITKAT update for SAMSUNG GALAXY S III Mini" its misleading as they havent decided. ST-Ericsson are no more so the chances of an update is slim to none unfortunately.
Samsung first have to release new kernel for our device before kitkat it means we must get 4.2 maybe its true about ram but what about processor
because of heavy bloatware i think samsung have to redesign a touchwiz for our device its s4 mini which will get 4.4 most likely but sometimes miracle can happen . I hope we get new kernel for maclaw
They know it's possible. I mean, look at the Android development forums. There are already a few stable KitKat ROMs. They don't have an excuse to not release it.
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If the KitKat bring the Samsung Secured System KNOX like the 4.3 I want not chocolates, I prefer the 4.1.2 . What brothel on Note 3 and on S4. :crying:
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i dont think we will get the kitkat and even if by some miracle we do get it, who needs it while we have maclaw, he even fixed the camera
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Indeed. And i think it is best if we support him more.
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Rumor: Android 4.4 KitKat update for Galaxy S4 Mini, S3 Mini, Ace 3 and other mid-rangers “under investigation” http://drippler.com/updates/share/r...y-s4-mini-s3-mini-ace-3-and-other-mid-rangers Via j.mp/drippler_app
Read that
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Isus <3 said:
Rumor: Android 4.4 KitKat update for Galaxy S4 Mini, S3 Mini, Ace 3 and other mid-rangers “under investigation” http://drippler.com/updates/share/r...y-s4-mini-s3-mini-ace-3-and-other-mid-rangers Via j.mp/drippler_app
Read that
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Page 1 already has posts like that.
Even if we already have Maclaw's version, i'd like this to be official, a lot of people have s3 minis now and it's not fair that the s4 may get an update but the s3 mini dont
abnerangel96 said:
Even if we already have Maclaw's version, i'd like this to be official, a lot of people have s3 minis now and it's not fair that the s4 may get an update but the s3 mini dont
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True. But for Maclaw's works, i think it's "better than nothing at all". CMIIW
deepseeker said:
True. But for Maclaw's works, i think it's "better than nothing at all". CMIIW
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Have to agree, lets hope samsung decide to release an update and make average users happy, i think ill stay with CM by Maclaw, its great
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abnerangel96 said:
i think ill stay with CM by Maclaw, its great
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It is. I just flashed his CM 11 4.4 fully working version. No major complain until now.
Just a tiny issue that the settings option for gallery is not working. But i think it is not a problem thinking all Maclaw's hard work.
Salute
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don't you underestimate an official release... 99.9% of smartphones don't even know the word root but many care about updates and the s3 mini is one of the top 10 selling devices around the globe and also used to cost 400 euro. so they have to release it. otherwise the'll lose customers. ste-ericsson not giving drivers is an excuse, maclaw with some others is a single developer that has booted almost fully working kit kat for s3 mini, Of course samsung can release a stable kitkat... and in my s3 mini capacitive buttons don't work when i flash a custom rom so i really need the official kitkat...
I installed last night and everything looks good. Hats of to MacLaw.
Just 1 thing. I have i8190N and have lost NFC now. Would be nice to see a ROM for the N variant.
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Still Good if...
I've been following Maclaw's work for months now, using his work as a "final" ROM for my device. However, what some users state here is a very valid idea, which I support. Is cool and all that we have Maclaw, Oliver and all of'em (without the drama, please save that for TV Soap Operas), but many many people out there would like to have the "Real Deal", be it for the sake of convenience -we sure enjoy testing every new update of our ROMs- but other people want an experience that "just works"- or because they prefer to have an officially backed up software. And let's face it, Samsung is the manufacturer of this phone and no one but the manufacturer would know better how it works and how to upgrade it. You custom developers are awesome, no doubt, but the manufacturer will always be a little above in the matter of knowing the device and undestanding it.
So, I really doubt Samsung will, after all this time, update our S3 mini, but I also think it would be awesome if they did so and I would totally use their update if they manage to improve the weak points of the last official one.
The question remains... did anyone get a legitimate version of KitKat?
If so, what are the chances of the G730A Model getting it, and of said thing is done, will it make it easier for us to root the G730A?
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