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memory card ?

sorry for this question but i've just got this amazing phone but i've put some apps on the sd card and can't find the sd card on the phone ? even googled this but to no avail ! please help a newbie , thanks !

you mean the physical location of the SD Card? Its under the back cover. You need to remove the battery to get it out.
Also, apps are not stored on the SD card, but rather on the internal memory of the phone.

A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.

QMAN101 said:
A couple of things. First you need to set up the phone for non market applications. This is done thru Menu>>settings>>applications and check the box that says Unknown Sources.
Next, if you use Astro or some other file manager, you can go to /sdcard and whatever folder you keep your apps in.
I use EOEAppsinstaller to do this. It searches the whole SD card to find any APK files. Works great.
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thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !

does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1

audino said:
does this means i can put applications on sd card without rooting my n1
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Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.

marra2 said:
thanks i'll try that !
It wasn't the physical finding of the card its how to access it to install apk files and a movie I installed !
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+1 for Astro File Manager! It also has a built in apk installer AND task killer. I love multitasking apps.

your movie should appear in the Gallery

twiggy114 said:
Yes and no. You can put apk's that you find on the net so you can put them on the SD card so you can install them but as for installing them so they run off the SD card that won't happen until you root the phone.
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ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?

audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought
audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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another yes and no. Due to a bug both RAM AND ROM are limited to ~230MB ...all are waiting for the next update.
Took me 10 mins to type this in landscape mode due to keyboard bugs!
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audino said:
ah oke im able to instal apps from sd card... i only have 162 free phone memory is this ok? i thought it comes with 512 memory and 512 ram?
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The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.

flarbear said:
The 512MB Flash ROM is shared between the OS and your installed apps. The amount left over for your installed apps after the system reserves space for the OS, scratch, recovery, and update partitions is around 190MB or so. Google mentioned that they are working on allowing us to store installed apps on the SD card so the size of this partition should not matter eventually.
The 512MB RAM is not used for storing the apps, it is used for running them and is a different set of memory. In 2.1 there is a kernel limitation that prevents them from using all 512MB just yet, but the next version of the Android Linux kernel will remove that restriction and we should see another 100 to 150 MB of memory available for use. That improvement won't have any impact on how many apps you can install, just on how many apps you can run at the same time and how much work they can do before they elbow other apps out of the way.
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Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1

audino said:
Sound cool if they really let us install on sd would be very nice and for me no more reasons to root my n1
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Even more importantly - there would be no more disincentive for developers to start creating more interesting media-rich applications.
As it stands now, if you put a 10MB app on the market very few are going to be willing to waste that much space on their phone to download it. So, you wouldn't make much money on it. So, you are likely not going to bother developing it.
With relaxed storage restrictions will come nicer (looking, at least) apps...

NAND DFT - Sense and free space issues

Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.

geekyhawkes said:
Firstly, amazing day, finally been able to get rid of winmo and get android into my NAND.
Sadly, i keep running into free space issues which is a bit frustrating. Im sure it might be something i am doing (or not doing), but was wondering if i am alone. As far as details, im running UK HD2, with DFT - SENSE rom flashed into my NAND and radio 2.15. I had no problems with the flash process and the phone generally works well.
I have apps2sd running and it says there are no apps that can be moved to the SD so i have everything where it should be. My SD is listed as 6.1gb free but internal memory is 115in use and about 38mb free. I cant even get copilot to install as it just says there is no space left (although i was running the .apk from the sd to install on the sd).
Could this be because i was previously using the sd card for android? Anyone else having these issues?
Thanks.
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Same problem with me I only have 35 mb free internal memory ,own using cotulla nand desire Rom
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try the desire hd version, it has a bit more space ..
the owner of a hd2 (us) with 1024mb have no problems with that ..

Hi
Did you try titanium backup to move apps from nand to SD, it should be better to give it a try...

Using nexushd2 I have 216 MB free space.
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Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!

frankinstine said:
Tmo US W/Desire HD 538mb Free!
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TMOUS HD2 Rocks

I just get free space only 99 mb on my hd2, i want to know why each device don't be got free space as same as ones.
My hd2 runs in Colluta's desire nand rom.
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This is not a problem with you guys, it's just with the 512 limit of our devices.
Be patient and someone /Cotulla/ will fix it so that we can install to SD card.
BTW
I just downloaded move2sd and it works just fine. Now my apps go to the sd and i've moved all possible apps to sd.
I am left with 82 mb which should be enough for txt and logs...

Im glad im not by myself with this. I guess the solution will come when the devs get chance to get ext4 up and running on our sd cards as data.img, that way the problem goes away. apps2sd/titanium etc are all fine, but if you have a lot of apps then you will always be in the situation i am of bouncing off the warning of low space.

The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.

pr0x2 said:
The only problem is now the low space...
Hope the devs can add a partition from the SD that functions as the internal memory.
And people with 1024leo's should stfu. It's like saying to a blind person.. hah that's weird I can see perfectly fine.
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Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.

Google Earth and Flash Player are killing me.
They still hold much space after moving to sd.
Looking forward to app2ext.

nokn956120 said:
Totally agree with the ignorant TMOUS owners saying they have no problems. I used to put a 4gb data.img in with my builds to make sure I had plenty of space. Still early days so lets wait for TMOUS users to come forward saying they have used up all their memory.
Putting that aside, the same problem happens with most other devices. I suppose using Android from SD card we had the luxury of choosing how big data.img to have. Now we are in the same boat as other Android handsets with the exception we cant go into recovery mode. If we could go into recovery mode then we could partition the SD card into two partitions. One for sd card usage like music, pictures etc and the other partition as ext3 to expand the phone memory onto the sd card.
If Cotulla or the DFT enables us to use our device in recovery mode, maybe they should only make it for HD2 Europe devices, seeing as TMOUS owners are all saying they have plenty of memory.
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Sorry man, not tring to be ignorant, I do love my TMo HD2. Ido agree with you on the ext3. I have my N1 w/a2sd and its awesome, no need to worry about space.I had about 95+ apps at one time and still had 150mb free of internal. Im guessing once we get a recovery img. we can then get the ext3 and a2sd working as it should. I have clockworks recovery on my N1 and works awsome. You can Backup any part of your rom even your ext3. Also Amon_RA's recovery is good too cause it has PSfreedom implemented, for those looking at PSFreedom Modds

[Q] These is no storage left. wtf

Im using CM7 RC1 on wildfire, i have 800mb left on SD card, but now my programs cannot be moved to SD card, because it says no more storage left on SD card. And this problem is after i instaled CM7 RC1

And this is dev related..... how??
As for ur question, I have no idea.
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Just format your sd and try again?
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Maybe your partition is not big enough?

big enough. i say its 800mb free

Yes , You have 800 mb but on general partion.Check out how much space you have on ext partitions.
I check it in the easiest way without anyy software.I'm connectin WF to my TV and get in USB and there are few drivers to choose then check info about and here it is.
Or with some kind of software in PC

Internal 25mb free, External (SD) 837mb free.

I advice you to make a quite bigger Internal and then check out'em

vilks said:
Internal 25mb free, External (SD) 837mb free.
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Moving to SD does not move the whole app to SD many times. Internal memory is occupied too, maybe 25 mb is too less? What's the exact error msg that its giving?

Have the same problem.
As far as i know APP2SD doesnt use the ext partition (just the Darktremor Apps2SD does) - but the APP uses the Froyo/Gingerbread buildin function and just saves some amount of the Apps to the SD card.
Somehow it worked for me if i try it a 2nd time (or after restarting the device in begin - after it worked fine for me).
But sometimes if I install apps it also tells me - not enough space - and i have 37MB internal left - even the app is just about 500kb.... - anyway it also works if i just try agains ome seconds later.
Annoying - but perhaps also works for u

Formiak said:
I advice you to make a quite bigger Internal and then check out'em
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Could you also tell us how 2 make bigger internal !??! If I dont want to disasemble my device and replace a chip?
As far as i know u just can get bigger internal space by moving apps or systemparts to the SD card... and thats where he has problems.
(But yes many custom roms already do it a bit: dalvik cache,.. - but u need 2 reflash another rom.... not part of this discussin atm i think)

i didnt have any problems with 2.3 nightly 49# and other nightlys or even 2.2 roms. But with new 2.3 RC1 i have these problems. so im moving to other rom

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[Q] Phonememory.

Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB ​​internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
Space ...

This needs to go in the Q&A forum, not the development forum.

Spacetower said:
Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB ​​internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
Space ...
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u can try one ap2sd rom capabile or ap2ext.

Spacetower said:
Hello.
To begin with, I am new to this.
I tested the Android builds "DFT_Nand..." for a long time now but only on the memory card but not until now tested sharply into the phone.
I have problems with lack of space in my HD2. It has 512 MB ​​internal memory and a 16 gigabyte memory card. I have now installed the Android and discovered that I only see 125 mb of phone. Is there a way to expand patitionen?
so it is possible to utilize all available space. When installing software from the marketplace so you can move most things to the memory card but not all.
Grateful for answers.
Otherwise the phone works absolutely great with this build.
Space ...
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Yea but i am already run appmonster and i run all apps from sdcard and still i only get 14mb Free and still want to use all phonememory that is avalible.
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ap2sd, data2ext is different

Try the ROM in my sig. 320mb of free storage after you freed up 24mb from magldr.

with data2ext you make an ext2/3/4 partion on your sd card and the phone shows it as phone memory,but it depend on the ROM if it uses data2ext or sometimes you can choose it in a configfile. so just try another rom, my favorite is coredroid, a Desire HD ROM but very fast and with widgets in the notification bar like Galaxy S

Just to make this clear. By internal storage, they mean the ROM of your device. So that means you have 512 ROM. And ROM is the space for where the OS/bootloader, radio, apps, get installed.
Therefore when you say there is only 125 mb space free, that means that the android rom you just installed & bootloader took up the 387mb ROM you so claim to be missing. So is anything wrong with your device? Conclusion: No. Solutions? The people above have given them.

In my phone, when i run appmonster it says:
Phone 114,00MB / 24,05 MB Apps: 49
SD 14,83 / 6,93 GB
Maybe i missunderstand but the phone complain against my phone-storage.

ap2sd, data2ext is different

Installed coredroid and now i dont have any problems with space
Didnt know what the problem was so i reeinstalled another version of Android and it seems to work nice, it is very very fast.
Thanx for all your help.
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Low storage help fast please

I'm a beginner, please bear with me if I'm stupid. I recently installed Android on my hd2 and the storage space on my hd2 is very low. i want to install more apps than 73 mb or so. I see others getting 400. how can I get this.
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vijaygopal1234 said:
I'm a beginner, please bear with me if I'm stupid. I recently installed Android on my hd2 and the storage space on my hd2 is very low. i want to install more apps than 73 mb or so. I see others getting 400. how can I get this.
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There are several ways to create more space. The first one is deleting some apps but I don't think you want that.
If you have room on your SD card, place some apps on the SD card. You can do this with several apps like 'app 2 sd'. Since you are a beginner this is probably the best way to do it but you can also use a script for this. Most custom roms have this but you have to read the instructions on the particular roms thread on how to operate it.

Not exactly what i wanted
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There are several ways to create more space. The first one is deleting some apps but I don't think you want that.
If you have room on your SD card, place some apps on the SD card. You can do this with several apps like 'app 2 sd'. Since you are a beginner this is probably the best way to do it but you can also use a script for this. Most custom roms have this but you have to read the instructions on the particular roms thread on how to operate it.
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But others have like 400 - 300 mbs of free space on the same rom. I want to know what is wrong with my rom or installation. I have experiance in android and the lg optimus one, just no this phone. I know we can install link2sd but I want that 400 mb

First possibility, they have a device with 1024 MBytes storage, as i understand, this is the american version of HD2 (LEO1024).
Otherwise you must use A2SD or Link2SD.
I prefert the last one, because you have an influence, which APPs will be moved to the SD card.

Sounds like maybe you made too large system partition. Example, if your instructions says it needs 150mb partition, and you create 250mb partition, you LOSE 100mb of storage space, because storage is calculated on what is left AFTER the system partition is created.