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So yesterday I got the email from sprint,followed the link and it took me to a "comming soon" page....WTF. So I call sprint, rep asked someone else in the room and said aug. 20. Then I figured I Might as well confirm contract pricing and stuff. She said that the $10/mo. Fee allows higher speed/wider bandwidth connection even on 3g network locations. Can evo owners confirm or deny this?
She also seemed to hint that we might get some sort of pre-notification/pre-order email if your on that list or whatever, I think its all just some sort of bass aackwords social media campain to keep us talking about it...........epic 4g..epic 4g..epic 4g..epic 4g,can I have my phone now?
Evo 4g still is only at select locations "due to unprecidented demand" WTF. Sprint you better pull your head out of your bass and hook an "early adoptor" up.

ummm, what?

radar5 said:
ummm, what?
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That's what I would've said.
Anyway does anyone know if the Epic 4g is gonna cost that $10 extra a month? It's not really all that big of a deal but I still wanna know.

I'd bet 10$ it will. Its here to stay on 4g phones.

Yes its going to cost the extra 10.

I can assure you that they are no faster on 3g than we are. 3g is '3g' is "3g" is EVDO RevA. The technologies don't allow for one device to be different than than other one. The towers don't give an EVO a priority over a Hero, its just not how things work. If the EVO does get a better speed test its because it can process the data faster, so if a website feels like it loads faster - it probably does - but its all in rendering not in the network.
And yes, the $10.00 fee will be there. I am not sure what everyones big deal is with it. It gives you the ability to hit 4G if you can, its a lot easier for sprint to tell you that you can connect to 4G regardless of where you live than for them to keep track of 4G users and non 4G users.
Given I do think they need a 3g super phone for those of you who are complaining.

All about the fee...
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Kcarpenter said:
I can assure you that they are no faster on 3g than we are. 3g is '3g' is "3g" is EVDO RevA. The technologies don't allow for one device to be different than than other one. The towers don't give an EVO a priority over a Hero, its just not how things work. If the EVO does get a better speed test its because it can process the data faster, so if a website feels like it loads faster - it probably does - but its all in rendering not in the network.
And yes, the $10.00 fee will be there. I am not sure what everyones big deal is with it. It gives you the ability to hit 4G if you can, its a lot easier for sprint to tell you that you can connect to 4G regardless of where you live than for them to keep track of 4G users and non 4G users.
Given I do think they need a 3g super phone for those of you who are complaining.
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Ok so I kind of accepted what she said ( I don't argue with children or uninformed people),but I asked "sooo the fee makes me somekind of priority user?" She replied "yes" I said "ummm ok". Please understand that I'm not saying she was right or truthful. Also when I went into the sprint store to ask about coverage in my little 3 stoplight town they had multiple overlapping signal strength maps on their terminal (3 I think). They were telling me yes your in 3g coverage area, yes your in area for cell modem, hotspot at home etc. Its my understanding all of these devices operate on the same network, but at differant speeds usually, isn't a cell modem plan more than adding data coverage and also faster? IDK maybe cell modem users do have priority.
The reason makes sense to me is because I use to move pretty often and I had a blackberry pearl that I bought when it first came out specifically for use as usb tether modem. Whenever the local high school let out for the day my connection would take a dump, so I would call T-mobile and explain my problem," is there anything you can do, this is a really important work project? They'd say hold on ill try to boost your network priority. I did this 2-3 times a week and it seemed to work, every time I called in I got the same response,T-mo RIM support had their own dept. Back in the day and they were actually quite good. This took place from 4-2 years ago.

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I am not a lawyer, don't play one on tv, and didn't sleep in a holiday inn express lastnight.

harrybozack said:
Try out explainthefee dot com
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You could just choose not to have Sprint. You always have that choice. They aren't adding the fee to current subscribers without possibly using the service. Unlike the other carriers with similar products, the user experience IS very different. I don't know if its your website, or a website you're just fond of. But if you really want to make Sprint pay for their $10 fee, then don't use them. Even with the $10 fee, they still sold out on the Evo, maybe its because their service isn't half-bad for what you do pay for.
Would you complain to the BBB about AT&T just announcing tiered data plans? No, because there is nothing you can do about it. Want an Iphone 4, pay for your extra data you'll use. VZW will go this way soon enough.

They are charging $10 extra a month on all of their 4G phones now. They charge evo $10 extra for the chance to use 4G if you can find it.

Ok so I went to explainthefee.com read the transcript and some other stuff. My guess is that some mid level exec. business school graduate got his hot little hands on a evo, flexed its muscles and decided that they "could/should" charge more. Keep in mind 2 things, firstly these guys running the companies don't understand/care about "fringe users like us" their personal phones are not rooted/overclocked/themed they have no idea!,they may have never bothered using youtube etc. On a smaller screeen device. Secondly the new CEO of sprint turned the company around and wanted to offer the lowest priced plans available with the most everything. They want it both ways and that's why they can't answer a simple question "what am I paying for".
I guess the 10$ is for..........Ummm well were not going to restructure our entire rate plan menu because of one device are we? I mean we signed a contract for 1.5m rate plan pamplets, and those little signs in all the stores.........etc.
I say after the epic is released we start a serious email/bbb campain they don't seem to have any firm ground to stand on. They will raise all rate plans $10 or more and allow us our legacy plans without the $10 fee.
Remember AFTER epic release............... Say 10 days?

Indeed, as far as I know, what they're doing is essentially unheard of in the US. I wasn't into phones as much back in 2002 or so when 3G first got started, but I do know that nowadays you don't have to pay an extra surcharge for EDGE over GPRS, or HSPA over EDGE (apologies for the GSM examples). You pay for Internet on other carriers, plain and simple. It would be slightly easier to take if they at least gave you the choice to not use their 4G Internet, especially since it might not be available where you live anyway, and they may have no plans to make it available.

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gophergun said:
Indeed, as far as I know, what they're doing is essentially unheard of in the US. I wasn't into phones as much back in 2002 or so when 3G first got started, but I do know that nowadays you don't have to pay an extra surcharge for EDGE over GPRS, or HSPA over EDGE (apologies for the GSM examples). You pay for Internet on other carriers, plain and simple. It would be slightly easier to take if they at least gave you the choice to not use their 4G Internet, especially since it might not be available where you live anyway, and they may have no plans to make it available.
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You do realize that when the iPhone 3G came out, they jacked up the cost of the internet plans on AT&T right? I THINK it was $20 for the 1st gen, and $30 for the 3G.

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entropism said:
You do realize that when the iPhone 3G came out, they jacked up the cost of the internet plans on AT&T right? I THINK it was $20 for the 1st gen, and $30 for the 3G.
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Firstly we are Android users, and as such I don't drink from the kool-aid cup of at&t/steve jobs/apple. Secondly at&t aplies their rates evenly on all users. Would I pay more per month
For a i4 vs i3gs?
And in conclusion what product or service is being provided for $10/mo. Or $120/yr Or in my case $240/yr? Am I renting a big screen/fast processor/whatever, in addition to paying for the device and service?

I'm sorry but I'm so tired of reading about the $10 fee, (Did a lot of lurking on the EVO forums before it released)
The $10 sucks, but it does allow you to access 4G in various locations around the country. Out of the 5 or 6 Cities I'm visiting in the next year, 4G is everywhere but Wichita so I won't be missing out.
Even then, paying $79.99 for a plan is still cheaper than what you would pay with AT&T and Verizon.
If you're too upset to pay the fee, it's not that hard to switch to another company that offers a comparable high level android phone and not have to pay that $10. Maybe if you and enough like minded people don't sign up for the 4G phones, it'll make a difference to Sprint.
I just get so tired of seeing these same old complaints from people and then they turn around and get the phone anyway!

So let me explain the fee:
With Comcast/Charter you have different levels of speed you are able to get - you pay more for faster speed. They cannot guarantee that you will get 25 mb/s but - you pay for it any way...theres your explanation. You don't want the fee, don't buy the hardware.
I don't understand the drama.

kgold708 said:
Ok so I kind of accepted what she said ( I don't argue with children or uninformed people),but I asked "sooo the fee makes me somekind of priority user?" She replied "yes" I said "ummm ok". Please understand that I'm not saying she was right or truthful. Also when I went into the sprint store to ask about coverage in my little 3 stoplight town they had multiple overlapping signal strength maps on their terminal (3 I think). They were telling me yes your in 3g coverage area, yes your in area for cell modem, hotspot at home etc. Its my understanding all of these devices operate on the same network, but at differant speeds usually, isn't a cell modem plan more than adding data coverage and also faster? IDK maybe cell modem users do have priority.
The reason makes sense to me is because I use to move pretty often and I had a blackberry pearl that I bought when it first came out specifically for use as usb tether modem. Whenever the local high school let out for the day my connection would take a dump, so I would call T-mobile and explain my problem," is there anything you can do, this is a really important work project? They'd say hold on ill try to boost your network priority. I did this 2-3 times a week and it seemed to work, every time I called in I got the same response,T-mo RIM support had their own dept. Back in the day and they were actually quite good. This took place from 4-2 years ago.
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There is a priority on the network, and it would probably allow you to drop less calls. I think priority 0 is reserved for emergency departments use - but speed would not be affected by it. Just how often you can poll the tower and how likely you are to be bumped off in high traffic.

1: I'm ok with paying $10 extra for decreased latancy/higher network priority. Not ok with "enhanced user experience" BS
2: I am going to sign a contract for @$3840-4000, 2 devices 2yr contract, that $10 fee is $480. If I pay over $500 (after tax) for something, don't you think I should know what it is?
3: Sprint fanboys/employees,how about next time they charge $20/mo (Android 3.0 provides an enhanced-enhanced experience).

Lol at Verizon's LTE pricing

Just read the article on engadget. 50 for 5gb and 80 for 10gb. With 10$ over charges. Not sure if its all lte phones or only for the service though. Still sucks imo. I'll take sprints 10$ 4g charge any day.
Edit: Reading comprehension failure. Think this is not mobile lte data plans.

I just hope Sprint can keep up with coverage.. verizons will be the same as their 3g coverage in around 2 years..
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We all know verizon will be a reliable lte provider. But can they keep up with sprints pricing.
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Sprint's isn't even true 4g though. I feel like because they went with wimax they did get ahead of the game, but now that companies are coming out with true 4g they will be way behind because LTE covers MUCH more area. LTE towers reach farther then even 3g towers which crushes wimax. I hope sprint has a plan for this because I don't want to have to change phone plans again >.<

crazyloof said:
Sprint's isn't even true 4g though. I feel like because they went with wimax they did get ahead of the game, but now that companies are coming out with true 4g they will be way behind because LTE covers MUCH more area. LTE towers reach farther then even 3g towers which crushes wimax. I hope sprint has a plan for this because I don't want to have to change phone plans again >.<
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Uh, no one has true 4G. In order to get that, you have to wait for Wimax 2 and LTE-Advanced.
And "The WiMAX Forum expects to see WiMAX Release 2 available commercially in the 2011-2012 timeframe."
The LTE-Advanced standard won't even be ratified until 2011.

I thought Dan Hesse came out and said that Sprint was looking into bolstering the "4G" network with an LTE network. is this no longer the case?
Also, those verizon prices are beyond ridiculous. i very much hope that sprint doesn't move to a tiered plan.

SilverStone641 said:
I thought Dan Hesse came out and said that Sprint was looking into bolstering the "4G" network with an LTE network. is this no longer the case?
Also, those verizon prices are beyond ridiculous. i very much hope that sprint doesn't move to a tiered plan.
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They most likely will. If not, there is a lot of money to be lost there. It's becoming an industry standard.

SilverStone641 said:
I thought Dan Hesse came out and said that Sprint was looking into bolstering the "4G" network with an LTE network. is this no longer the case?
Also, those verizon prices are beyond ridiculous. i very much hope that sprint doesn't move to a tiered plan.
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He stated that he is fully committed to wimax. He did state earlier that he was thinking about testing out LTE alongside wimax.
Ha.... I thought that was 2 different people posting... D:

Ill take sprint any day of the week as they are the only contender with a truely unlimited data plan.
I pay for tethering, im rooted and could get it for free, but pushing no-fine-print unlimited data is is a huge huge win in my book, not to mention that sprint hasn't screwed me over once since I switched from t-mobile (t-mobile screwed me over every chance they got), they did kinda sneak the $5 spending limit onto my account, but after a quick chat with a rep, they now give me $4.99 credit toward my bill every month.
Wimax is still rolling out in my area (I can get the signal, but its weak and slow), so I primarily use 3G. My second job is fixing computers/building computers/rooting android phones, I'm not always at home for this, and when I'm at a clients house/coffee shop with crap wifi (cough...cough...starbucks) its so freakin' nice to be able to tether and download all the drivers/updates/.zips/roms I need without worrying about going over my data limit. Sprints 3G might not be as fast as a regular internet connection, but sometimes its all I have access to, and its usually better that using Quest DSL through the $10 walmart-special router.
....I pushed nearly 70GB last month in 3G data, and 37GB in the last two weeks....not a single peep/complaint/charge from sprint.
I dont care how fast a network is, being able to do what I do with my phone makes my job much much easier and less of a headache, in my book unlimited data>network speed. Im eagerly awaiting the 4G rollout in my area, as it rivals my oversaturated comcast connection.
It also feels good knowing that, if sprint ever does decide to change their plans on data usage, I will be grandfathered into unlimited data for my stay. I also see this as being one of the last non-tiered data plans avalable (at least in the US anyway), if sprint ever does change, their wont be any more.....
...well, that was a long rant...

starnostar said:
My second job is fixing computers/building computers/rooting android phones, I'm not always at home for this, and when I'm at a clients house/coffee shop with crap wifi (cough...cough...starbucks) its so freakin' nice to be able to tether and download all the drivers/updates/.zips/roms I need without worrying about going over my data limit.
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Hold on. you use other people's work(i assume you DIDN'T build your own root method) that is offered freely and CHARGE people for it?? dude...

SilverStone641 said:
Hold on. you use other people's work(i assume you DIDN'T build your own root method) that is offered freely and CHARGE people for it?? dude...
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not to go OT, but it sounds like he is selling his labor and time, not the rom itself.

Nefariouss said:
Just read the article on engadget. 50 for 5gb and 80 for 10gb. With 10$ over charges. Not sure if its all lte phones or only for the service though. Still sucks imo. I'll take sprints 10$ 4g charge any day.
Edit: Reading comprehension failure. Think this is not mobile lte data plans.
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Ima sprint cust but work for vzw those plans are for tge modems not phones no word yet on the premium data for phones

Little off topic I realize but with all the buzz... I'd like to see Sprint and T-Mobile merge and bang some heads in both the wired/wireless telco industries.
Hell..smack around the cable companies too. They got their day coming.
One day a majority of their subscribers will finally realize they can get same content or better on the web and start leaving in droves.

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Little off topic I realize but with all the buzz... I'd like to see Sprint and T-Mobile merge and bang some heads in both the wired/wireless telco industries.
Hell..smack around the cable companies too. They got their day coming.
One day a majority of their subscribers will finally realize they can get same content or better on the web and start leaving in droves.
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First of all, why would you want a sprint/t-mobile merger?? T-mobile has nothing that we don't. Secondly, what would sprint OR tmobile have to do with cable companies? wouldn't sites like hulu, vudu and boxee be better suited to "smack the cable companies" around? i believe most people are aware that they can get all their normal shows online. the cable box is just too convenient and familiar.

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Sprint's isn't even true 4g though. I feel like because they went with wimax they did get ahead of the game, but now that companies are coming out with true 4g they will be way behind because LTE covers MUCH more area. LTE towers reach farther then even 3g towers which crushes wimax. I hope sprint has a plan for this because I don't want to have to change phone plans again >.<
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LTE does not necessarily reach further its the frequency that reaches further. Verizon is using a lower frequency which does travel further so its the spectrum that Verizon has not the technology. Also neither wimax nor LTE are true 4g. When a car has the radio up loud you hear the base first because base travels further because it is a lower frequency.

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LTE does not necessarily reach further its the frequency that reaches further. Verizon is using a lower frequency which does travel further so its the spectrum that Verizon has not the technology. Also neither wimax nor LTE are true 4g. When a car has the radio up loud you hear the base first because base travels further because it is a lower frequency.
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Your facts are correct but the car audio analogy is not. Lower frequencies do not travel faster. They just penetrate obstacles better. This means they penetrate building walls better for indoor coverage and they penetrate air better, going farther before the signal has degraded beyond usability.

thetakara said:
Uh, no one has true 4G. .
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"True 4g" has been defined as "capable of reaching 1gbit/sec"

mattykinsx said:
"True 4g" has been defined as "capable of reaching 1gbit/sec"
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4G also does not just mean speed. A true 4G network is an all IP network. Meaning no more circuit switched voice call transmission. Everything is packet switched. Calls are VOIP. A true 4G network allows VOIP calls to seamlessly be handed off to a wifi connection and back ect. All these carriers boasting 4G has degraded the significance of what a true 4G network is. And no one is there to blow the whistle on this false advertising.

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Your facts are correct but the car audio analogy is not. Lower frequencies do not travel faster. They just penetrate obstacles better. This means they penetrate building walls better for indoor coverage and they penetrate air better, going farther before the signal has degraded beyond usability.
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Further not faster.
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jkinnison90 said:
I just hope Sprint can keep up with coverage.. verizons will be the same as their 3g coverage in around 2 years..
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Which conveniently is when my contract is up on my EVO.
I'll go to whoever has the best technology at the best price. I bought the iPhone 3G on release and then switched to the EVO after my contract. If someone has a better option in 2 years then I'll go with that.
Wimax is more than enough to get me through it.

to everyone complaining about $10 add on

first of all, no sprint literature says the "$10 premium data" is for 4g access, the only reference to 4g is the phone names. I repeat, NO OFFICIAL SPRINT literature says the fee is for 4g access. You can call the charge what ever you want, but quit whining about sprint charging you for something you opted to purchase.
If you really have a problem with paying a small premium monthly for the best smartphone in the us right now, guess what you decided to buy it and sign the contract. there are plenty of other devices that do not require you to pay a premium. If you want to play, you gotta pay.
Sprint gives you unlimited data while on the sprint network, once again UNLIMITED DATA WHILE ON SPRINTS NETWORK, that includes evdo and wimax. You can make video calls while over sprints native data network, does att let you do that with the crabapple. NO, because it uses a ridiculous amount of data, the new skype app on the crabapple lets you make calls over 3g and with atts 2gb plan, it also eats those precious gigs faster than joey chestnut eating hot dogs on the 4th of july. so you pay $10 more than the base plan so $79 with UNLIMITED DATA, calls to all mobile phones in us, and messaging, as well as sprint nav (although pointless thanks to google nav). Do the math and see how much att will charge you to use 10gigs a month+unlim txt+calls+nav+insurance, $10 at that point seems petty.
There have been leaks of verizons pricing for lte access with phones and aircards, NOT UNLIMITED and more $ as well.
Also sprint plans to have every one of their cell sites supporting all of their technologies by 2015, and they do have the plans and infrastructure in place to switch to lte. Sprint owns more than twice of the spectrum that att and verizon own combined. So even when the competition can have lte up and running it will be alot more congested than sprint.
I am personally happy with the epic aside from not having newest software, but for the price i pay each month and the things i can do with my phone and not worrying about a crazy bill i wouldn't go anywhere else, but if your not happy you have choices and nobody is stopping you from getting what you feel is the best for you so quit complaining or get something different.

We don't need more of these threads. Will a mod please close them?

This general forum is just getting destroyed by people opening threads that have been hounded to death! where is the mod hiding at?
Sent from my Epic while i should be working

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We don't need more of these threads. Will a mod please close them?
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Agreed. I come here to learn new things about the Epic.. not to read about this crap..

Orbiting234 said:
My sentiments exactly. *****y whiners just need to simply STFU and get over it already!
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I completely agree with the OP, but I wouldn't go to say that all whiners need to STFU, their simply not understanding what their getting for the $10. Before signing up with Sprint, I went ahead and looked at all the other service providers plans. None even compare to Sprint. If its an extra $120 / year for Unlimited Data on one of the most badass phones that will soon have 4G in lots more areas that sounds like a steal to me. Verizon has their 4G LTE hotspot thing for like $50 / 5gb month. You could just tether your phone, get unlimited data on such a small premium and not worry about data caps. So once again I think Sprints service is a steal, we've been with Sprint for over 10 years and I have absolutely no complaints besides I agree with the OP on the late software.
Anyway stop whining about Sprints lousy $10 "Premium Data" fee. Your getting unlimited data on a top of the line phone!
-D3luSi0n4L

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Agreed. I come here to learn new things about the Epic.. not to read about this crap..
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Then move on to the next thread.

Who cares if Sprint has more spectrum, if it's not being used. who cares what Sprint charges if Wimax isn't available in ones area or you have to stand still, outside, to be able to use it.
No matter what Sprint has with Wimax, right now, it's more marketing then anything else. They've already admitted their "1st to 4G" has failed.
All I care about is being overcharged for something I can't access. And when I'm in an area where it's supposed to be available, it's so spotty, it's not even worth using. BTW, I nor anyone else on Sprint should be being charged $10 a month for premium data since we all have UNLIMITED Data. I also don't care what any other company charges since they're not the ones billing me.
In real world use, what good is a FFC on the Epic or Evo. How often does anyone use video conferencing? What makes the Epic so much better then any other Galaxy S phone in the US, a keyboard? Get real, that is a personal preference ... There's nothing more advanced about the Epic then any other Galaxy S phone. In fact, you could say the GSM galaxy S phones are better since they can do Video out. Evo ... Nothing wrong with the Droid X on VzW and where the Evo has a FFC, the Droid X has better battery life.
Bottom line is this, if you feel good about paying more then one should, go ahead and pay, but don't tell others they shouldn't complain. If you want others to accept the $10 Sprint fee, why don't you just pay it for us? If you feel Sprint's phones are so much superior then other phones on the market, good for you, but that's a personal thing.
Ok... I'm getting off my soapbox now... I think I've said enough for you to get my jest.

Love all the threads with people whining about other people whining. Vicious cycle.

Please do not make anymore ranting threads.
k thx bye!
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tell sprint to change something in our plans so i can get out for free. then i can move to a real carrier then!

fixxxer2008 said:
tell sprint to change something in our plans so i can get out for free. then i can move to a real carrier then!
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I'll let em know as soon as I go back to work Monday.

use prl 00001 and torrent alldata discs, you will get dropped with no etf

how much of a battery drain is that app lol

NewZJ said:
use prl 00001 and torrent alldata discs, you will get dropped with no etf
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yeah after 2-3 months of using it.

fixxxer2008 said:
tell sprint to change something in our plans so i can get out for free. then i can move to a real carrier then!
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A real carrier?
Is that one without unlimited data? [att]
Or one with throttled data after so much usage? [verizon, tmobile]
Or one that is far behind when it comes to coverage? [tmobile]
Oh, did I mention for $40+ / month more?
...not sure how you define "real"....

oh, is time a factor? use your phone to host a wikileaks server

mattykinsx said:
A real carrier?
Is that one without unlimited data? [att]
Or one with throttled data after so much usage? [verizon, tmobile]
Or one that is far behind when it comes to coverage? [tmobile]
Oh, did I mention for $40+ / month more?
...not sure how you define "real"....
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funny Tmobile has just as much coverage or a bit more than sprint and is a bit cheaper too in my area but i like my evo to much atm

CheesyNutz said:
funny Tmobile has just as much coverage or a bit more than sprint and is a bit cheaper too in my area but i like my evo to much atm
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Actually they don't and they're $5 less a month for 450 minutes, unl text and thorttled data. That is of course if you don't mind losing your any mobile any time minutes and free GPS.

CheesyNutz said:
funny Tmobile has just as much coverage or a bit more than sprint and is a bit cheaper too in my area but i like my evo to much atm
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Sprint's coverage is actually second to Verizon...and that's barely.
At&t is right behind that.
Tmobile is way behind, although A LOT BETTER than it was only a few years ago.
Please keep in mind that when you look at tmobile and verizon's map on their website it states:
Portions of the maps include networks operated by our roaming partners;
This is not true for Sprint's.
DirtyShroomz said:
Actually they don't and they're $5 less a month for 450 minutes, unl text and thorttled data. That is of course if you don't mind losing your any mobile any time minutes and free GPS.
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Individual plans their prices stack up better against Sprint...
Family plans...no one comes close to Sprint's prices for the same services.

mattykinsx said:
A real carrier?
Is that one without unlimited data? [att]
Or one with throttled data after so much usage? [verizon, tmobile]
Or one that is far behind when it comes to coverage? [tmobile]
Oh, did I mention for $40+ / month more?
...not sure how you define "real"....
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i despise sprint and their lack of decent phones minus the year old evo. t-mobile has a great lineup and ill be moving there as soon as i can. just have to find a way to get out of two eft fees first.

sprint has massive coverage, they roam with verizon but I haven't been in many areas that didn't have sprint, and I be everywhere 4 my job

CheesyNutz said:
funny Tmobile has just as much coverage or a bit more than sprint and is a bit cheaper too in my area but i like my evo to much atm
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t-mobile is a very good carrier with better prices than sprint currently. they just get a bad rep but they have an impressive lineup of phones. i really want that new lg phone.

fixxxer2008 said:
i despise sprint and their lack of decent phones minus the year old evo. t-mobile has a great lineup and ill be moving there as soon as i can. just have to find a way to get out of two eft fees first.
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Your emotional dislike or like doesn't define "real".
Lack of phones?
The Evo shift, Evo and Epic lineup against everything that is out....will that be changing soon with the CES phone's being released?
Yes.
Will it last very long?
No.
Sprint's delay in releasing new phones is likely due to the situation they are having choosing lte or sticking with wimax, due to the financial issues with Clear.
But they're coming.
fixxxer2008 said:
t-mobile is a very good carrier with better prices than sprint currently. they just get a bad rep but they have an impressive lineup of phones. i really want that new lg phone.
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Tmobile's coverage, less the coverage providing including other's networks, is significantly less than Sprint/Verizon/At&t.
Their prices are barely, if at all, cheaper than Sprint's and that only is true if you're talking about individual plans.
But not always true....my girlfriend's individual plan with T-mobile is $85 / month.
More expensive Sprint.

mattykinsx said:
Sprint's coverage is actually second to Verizon...and that's barely.
At&t is right behind that.
Tmobile is way behind, although A LOT BETTER than it was only a few years ago.
Please keep in mind that when you look at tmobile and verizon's map on their website it states:
Portions of the maps include networks operated by our roaming partners;
This is not true for Sprint's.
Individual plans their prices stack up better against Sprint...
Family plans...no one comes close to Sprint's prices for the same services.
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Yup, that is correct, and on contract their plans are $79.99 for 500 minutes, unl text and data, which is the same exact price as Sprint, except Sprint gives you any mobile anytime. Their no contract prices are a little less than that, but of course phone cost is full retail price.

DirtyShroomz said:
Yup, that is correct, and on contract their plans are $79.99 for 500 minutes, unl text and data, which is the same exact price as Sprint, except Sprint gives you any mobile anytime. Their no contract prices are a little less than that, but of course phone cost is full retail price.
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Don't forget that "unlimited data" is throttled after so much usage.

I don't care what anyone says, T-Mobile might have throttled data, but at it's worst HSPA+ is numerous times better than WiMAX. Not to mention the fact that it doesn't cause your phone to chug your battery like WiMAX does.
http://phandroid.com/2011/02/10/4g-speed-tests-show-samsung-galaxy-s-4g-as-winner/
My co-worker's MyTouch 3G is always about 2 MBPS faster than my EVO on 4G.

I think we can support sprint till we are yellow in the logo but it won't change the fact that tmobile might be better for him, sprint isn't the best for everybody I admit though it's right for me and most of you.
let him go, he will be back for the evo 2

akarol said:
I don't care what anyone says, T-Mobile might have throttled data, but at it's worst HSPA+ is numerous times better than WiMAX. Not to mention the fact that it doesn't cause your phone to chug your battery like WiMAX does.
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Don't know about battery usage but I can honestly say that HSPA+ is pretty terrible in the three personal examples [friends that have it] comparable to even Sprint's 3g.
I don't know if it's just our area Detroit suburbs or what but it's ****in' slow here.

sprint's LTE maybe not unlimited??

if this true, i know alot of people will be leaving sprint. but it doesn't make sense, still unlimited data is the only reason to be with sprint. hopefully will be grandfather in and still have all the data we can eat.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spri...E-could-lead-to-end-of-unlimited-data_id24120

tkeyes said:
if this true, i know alot of people will be leaving sprint. but it doesn't make sense, still unlimited data is the only reason to be with sprint. hopefully will be grandfather in and still have all the data we can eat.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spri...E-could-lead-to-end-of-unlimited-data_id24120
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You can never be grandfathered in. When you upgrade your phone to LTE and sign a new contract it will have any new restrictions and price changes. Hopefully it will not happen but if it does they will still need to be cheaper than the competitors or their coverage issues will cause people to switch.

You can possibly just buy the phone at full price and keep your plan. Not sure how they are gonna handle the LTE guess we may find out in Jan.
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5FOOTER said:
You can possibly just buy the phone at full price and keep your plan. Not sure how they are gonna handle the LTE guess we may find out in Jan.
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Yes until your contract runs out and then they are free to change your plan or you sign a new contract with the new plan. If you upgrade riiiiiiighhhht before they change the plans then you can get almost 2 years out of it but doubt they would activate LTE and start selling LTE phones without the rates in place.

kennyglass123 said:
Yes until your contract runs out and then they are free to change your plan or you sign a new contract with the new plan. If you upgrade riiiiiiighhhht before they change the plans then you can get almost 2 years out of it but doubt they would activate LTE and start selling LTE phones without the rates in place.
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that's incorrect, thats what should be the case, but its not ask anyone that had or has an data card, wifi hotspot with sprint. one day it was unlimited data the next day it wasnt. i was still under contract till next year.

tkeyes said:
that's incorrect, thats what should be the case, but its not ask anyone that had or has an data card, wifi hotspot with sprint. one day it was unlimited data the next day it wasnt. i was still under contract till next year.
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Ouch, that is worse. But doesn't it actually say unlimited data in our contract? Then that would get you out of an ETF anyway.

I don't think Sprint will get rid of unlimited data. Sprint has been advertising unlimited data for months and it is definitely a customer catcher, I mean just look at their latest commercial.
Them upgrading to LTE would simply make it even better .

Wild speculation from a no-name idiot "analyst". Did he even bother to read the executive summary of the Network Vision strategy update webcast?

k0nane said:
Wild speculation from a no-name idiot "analyst". Did he even bother to read the executive summary of the Network Vision strategy update webcast?
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Great post.
Let's face it, a lot of these "analyst" are just giving random thoughts based on speculation. We won't know until we get an official word, but I seriously doubt that sprint will be cutting unlimited.
Sprint has already officially said their network is handling all of it's users and not being stressed, especially with the iPhone not even touching the current 4G network, let alone LTE.

HanMan5000 said:
Great post.
Let's face it, a lot of these "analyst" are just giving random thoughts based on speculation. We won't know until we get an official word, but I seriously doubt that sprint will be cutting unlimited.
Sprint has already officially said their network is handling all of it's users and not being stressed, especially with the iPhone not even touching the current 4G network, let alone LTE.
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Sprint has promised to stay unlimited, maybe they'll throttle, but looking at their advertising campaign they better not or else they'll look like hypocrites.... Besides, if Sprint doesn't have unlimited, what's there to stay for? Nothing, and they know it.
Sent from my Samsung Legen-wait for it-dary! 4g

kennyglass123 said:
Ouch, that is worse. But doesn't it actually say unlimited data in our contract? Then that would get you out of an ETF anyway.
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maybe i talked to the wrong 3 ppl, it was $80 to get out of it, oh well. the crazy thing is that my clear internet is better then sprint. arent they using the same network.
the "analyst" and we doing the same thing just guessing, till sprint says their plans.