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[Q] I see 2 tiny silver lines under the front glass. Is my nexus 4 defective?

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I've been using my Nexus 4 for a week until now, and someday I looked at the top bezel carefully, (with proper angle & light)
and I found out that there are 2 shining lines under the glass. (As you know the bezel is supposed to be just black without any decorations or marks.)
The right one is right below the front speaker, and the middle one is right below the perimeter dividing the area in half.
They are very short(like a millimeter), and shiny like some kind of metal. They look like some cracks of the bezel.
But the front glass is just fine and there are no scratches on the surface now. And I never dropped or hit my phone.
I'm not sure the lines are from the beginning or created after unboxing.
Anyone sees the same thing or knows about it?

Coating wearing off

my nexus 7's screen coating wore off on the right hand thumb spot (which is always used obviously)
it got to a point that i no longer want to use it, whenever i slide in that spot it feels rough like sliding my hands on a window instead of being smooth in other places.
is this a common problem or am i an exception?
i bought a screen protector, but it's matte so now reading text on a white background is really a pain, any ideas on what i could do to fix this?

it sounds like you need to replace that screen protector, just buy and apply a new one (glossy), as matte looks bad on low density displays. a pic might help too on the forums
good luck

Painted bezel / Zero-gap: Like? Dislike? Scrape it off?

The Moto X has an interesting glass front. The glass actually covers the entire face and "wraps" around the sides of the phone to the equator of the entire phone. This was commonly referred to as the "zero-gap" or "magic-glass" technology when I was first reading about the phone.
The bezel that we have appears to be painted onto the glass itself. Especially for people like me with the white face, the painted bezel effect really shows off a rather unsightly vertical gap between the painted bezel and the surface of the digitizer, which rests about .5 mm under the glass itself.
I wonder what the glass looks like under the painted bezel. If it was scraped off, do you think it would just be smooth glass enveloping the front of the phone? If so, I wonder why Motorola felt the need to paint the bezel on. That painted bezel looks really cheap to me.

I read rumors that it was wrap around glass but I really don't believe that to be the case - when tapping on it with a metal object, the "wrap around" area sounds distinctly plastic and on the top, you can actually see a distinct area where the plastic is taller than the glass that meets it.
It would be a lot more expensive to create a wrap-around glass piece than it would be to simply do some good plastic forming create tight bezels. I don't think it's glass at all - it's just plastic that's assembled with the glass to some tight tolerances.
Look here:
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/KidY6tB4P22vESDH.huge
Looks/sounds/feels like plastic to me.

binary visions said:
I read rumors that it was wrap around glass but I really don't believe that to be the case - when tapping on it with a metal object, the "wrap around" area sounds distinctly plastic and on the top, you can actually see a distinct area where the plastic is taller than the glass that meets it.
It would be a lot more expensive to create a wrap-around glass piece than it would be to simply do some good plastic forming create tight bezels. I don't think it's glass at all - it's just plastic that's assembled with the glass to some tight tolerances.
Look here:
https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/KidY6tB4P22vESDH.huge
Looks/sounds/feels like plastic to me.
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I disagree. While the teardown picture shows what appears to be plastic, there appears to be an additional layer of something covering the outer rim. Check the bottom right (and even bottom left) corner(s) shown in the picture. In the alternative, the "wrapped" portion of the glass simply doesn't go as far as the equator.
I'm virtually certain there is some "wrapping" going on, largely due to the fact that I'm dealing with a white face. I will stake my life on the fact that there is no horizontal meeting between the glass and the bezel (on the flat portion of the face). I can actually see under the painted bezel and see no leading edge of plastic. The glass just goes until I can't see any further. I agree with you that it sounds like plastic when tapped with metal (I just tested it myself), but that can be easily explained by the mere fact that it is painted with some plastic-like substance.
Finally, I think your statement that the bezel is raised only supports the idea that the bezel is painted atop the surface of the glass. If it weren't, you could theoretically have it be level with the glass, though not necessarily. I really wish someone's teardown would show a close picture of the glass.

its not painted glass or wrap around glass. its a plastic bezel. i know becasue i can lift mine up with my fingernail

I have a white front too. At first I was too a bit angry about that shadow where glass touches the plastic/color, but I learned to live with it I don't really think it is just color. Maybe it's some really thin plastic bezel on top of the glass, but certainly not color. Try to look at some crashtests of Moto X. If you look at damaged bezel, you can see it's not just color but something more solid

eyc said:
I agree with you that it sounds like plastic when tapped with metal (I just tested it myself), but that can be easily explained by the mere fact that it is painted with some plastic-like substance.
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No, it wouldn't. Painting a glass surface with plastic doesn't make it resonate like plastic. Especially not at the thin layers we're talking about.
Finally, I think your statement that the bezel is raised only supports the idea that the bezel is painted atop the surface of the glass.
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To raise that tiny little piece of bevel on the top and bottom of the phone, and do all of this wrapping, would be very expensive since it would be pretty sophisticated forming, and from an engineering standpoint, it's a bad idea.
I'd lay money on it being plastic. Easy test, though - go ahead and scrape off your paint and we'll see. I'm not going to do it on mine, though, since it's plastic and will look like hell after that

murso74 said:
its not painted glass or wrap around glass. its a plastic bezel. i know becasue i can lift mine up with my fingernail
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Well, then. I stand corrected. What do you see when you lift it up? Does the glass extend a tad past the plastic bezel? I guess the plastic bezel is just really thin and tapers off into paper-thinness at the very edge where you see the glass.

eyc said:
Well, then. I stand corrected. What do you see when you lift it up? Does the glass extend a tad past the plastic bezel? I guess the plastic bezel is just really thin and tapers off into paper-thinness at the very edge where you see the glass.
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Honestly I can't really tell... Seems like plastic. I can slip my thumb nail between the side glasss and the plastic bezel, but I don't really want to pull to hard. I've been meaning to call moto about a replacement
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This was one of their marketing things at launch it's zero gap where they "fused" the plastic bezel to the glass for that zero gap feel. The problem is that the bezel doesn't come all the way to the edge of the display so it does create an odd line. This is far more obvious on white than black on black it can only really been seen in direct sunlight.
"Motorola’s unique materials story continues on the front with a fused glass-plastic layer. The front glass and touch panel are fused into the plastic lip which rings the top side of the Moto X. They’re not separate parts, but literally fused together into one. Motorola is very proud of this feature since it results in one unbroken surface instead of the usual pressure-fit plastic ring affair with a raised section or gap."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7235/moto-x-review

It's plastic. I'm actually quite surprised it's being debated.
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Inner metal bezel scratched and huge gap

I just got my note 4 from t-mobile shipped yesterday oct 13. The pictures shows it all. Not only do i have a gap that is only at the top and right side of the phone (which i can live with), the top right hand corner shows that the inner bezel scratched possible from applying that screen. I can live with the gap but not those scratches as the white phone bezel make it more noticeable. Sucks to get the runt of the new note 4s...

i wouldn't call that a "huge" gap, you can probably just slip a piece of paper in, but not anything thicker, same info posted by androidauthority and unbox therapy. how did you scratch it with a SP anyway? glass SP?

It just seems like the paint that used on the metal came off in those spots. As for the gap, it's no bigger than any other note 4, but I do agree that dust and other particles will get stuck in there over time.

same small gap on my phone but then it disappeared after i put on a case. Even without the case it doesn't really bother me that much because i didn't even notice it

You can scratch it if your removing bubbles

I don't think you have a gap issue at all. I'd be a ticked about the scratches though.

Those aren't scratches. Those are the antennas

joe11784 said:
Those aren't scratches. Those are the antennas
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trust me those are scratches from the paint peeling off the metal. Probably for poor installation.
This phone also had very loose volume rocker buttons.
Also the gap is way bigger than any of the 4 phones that shipped. ( had a total of 6 so...)
Ended up returning this one and one with a dead pixel/dust ball under the screen.
Got my two replacements from t-mobile. all is good.

Oh my bad. I was looking at the last picture you uploaded where it shows the cut out at the top left of the phone

S8 Active Screen Defect?

Just got one this weekend. I got a decent glass screen protector. I applied it and noticed lines under the protector form and not go away. It looks as if there is moisture or grease...or maybe adhesive from the dust removal sticker I used on the screen prior to putting the glass on. Nothing changed in 24 hours, so I took it off and the line marks were ghosted onto the underside of the glass protector. And I had to scrub remnants of the lines off the screen itself. I used the second of 2 glass protectors after really cleaning and drying. Same thing.
I took the protector off and cleaned the screen. Upon inspecting, I find that holding the phone on a certain angle, there are ripple lines on the screen. It's like the screen isn't flat (that may be the problem of the lines under the protector?) It's like the screen is wavy..but symmetrical wavy. I've looked at a co workers Note 8 and I dont see this wave pattern on the screen.
Is anyone noticing this or familiar? I am attaching 2 photos. One showing what happens with the glass protector. Then another with the glass off. I had to angle the phone just right. You can see the ripple if you look at the reflection of the white window frame in the photo.
Thoughts?

shizam76 said:
Just got one this weekend. I got a decent glass screen protector. I applied it and noticed lines under the protector form and not go away. It looks as if there is moisture or grease...or maybe adhesive from the dust removal sticker I used on the screen prior to putting the glass on. Nothing changed in 24 hours, so I took it off and the line marks were ghosted onto the underside of the glass protector. And I had to scrub remnants of the lines off the screen itself. I used the second of 2 glass protectors after really cleaning and drying. Same thing.
I took the protector off and cleaned the screen. Upon inspecting, I find that holding the phone on a certain angle, there are ripple lines on the screen. It's like the screen isn't flat (that may be the problem of the lines under the protector?) It's like the screen is wavy..but symmetrical wavy. I've looked at a co workers Note 8 and I dont see this wave pattern on the screen.
Is anyone noticing this or familiar? I am attaching 2 photos. One showing what happens with the glass protector. Then another with the glass off. I had to angle the phone just right. You can see the ripple if you look at the reflection of the white window frame in the photo.
Thoughts?
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My screen has similar waves on it when looking at an angle. I think that's just a side effect of the gorilla glass. I haven't used a screen protector on it though, can't help you there...

hotbyz168 said:
My screen has similar waves on it when looking at an angle. I think that's just a side effect of the gorilla glass. I haven't used a screen protector on it though, can't help you there...
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Ohh boy. You better put something on it. This screen is SO susceptible to scratches, its pathetic. I used the phone for 2 days before my first glass protector came and I already had 3 small scratches on the screen. I had the phone in a felt lined pouch the whole time....never was dropped or used by anyone else but me.

shizam76 said:
Ohh boy. You better put something on it. This screen is SO susceptible to scratches, its pathetic. I used the phone for 2 days before my first glass protector came and I already had 3 small scratches on the screen. I had the phone in a felt lined pouch the whole time....never was dropped or used by anyone else but me.
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Yeah there's plenty of those marks on it, but only noticeable when looking with the screen off. While the screen is on, it's not noticeable. My main concern is fractures, in that sense, it's sturdy.