Here are stock roms for differant european countries and the service providers
Play (PL): ZTE Blade - TFT screen
http://www.multiupload.com/NWQEJUI6D2
Is there any stable 2.2 rom in the stock?
No 2.2 as yet, but there may be one (or more!) very soon -- from China and/oe Japan. Whether they'll work on any/all the European Blades without any modification remains to be seen. But if you want 2.2, MoDaCo has a very usable Alpha 4 based on the pre-release Froyos.
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No 2.2 as yet, but there may be one (or more!) very soon -- from China and/oe Japan. Whether they'll work on any/all the European Blades without any modification remains to be seen. But if you want 2.2, MoDaCo has a very usable Alpha 4 based on the pre-release Froyos.
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I think Orange in UK has responsibility to release offical 2.2 rom for their customers. Most of the other brand name android phone are going to release 2.2 rom upgrade for their customers at the end of this year.
Did the links work for you?
I just wanted to download the ok-mobile rom as a backup. Just in case i should get a hardware issue during warranty time....
But I always get a 404 error or a not allowed.
Thx in advance
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I think Orange in UK has responsibility to release offical 2.2 rom for their customers.
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We've had mixed messages from Orange about 2.2. Perhaps they'll go straight to 2.3, assuming they bother at all!
The only European provider that has indicated they'll soon be doing a 2.2 for their version of the Blade is the Greek one. But AFAIK it's not confirmed and it's vaguely coming "in the New Year".
Wind announced that Greek version will get an official froyo update in the beginning of 2011
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We've had mixed messages from Orange about 2.2. Perhaps they'll go straight to 2.3, assuming they bother at all!
The only European provider that has indicated they'll soon be doing a 2.2 for their version of the Blade is the Greek one. But AFAIK it's not confirmed and it's vaguely coming "in the New Year".
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Is there any news from Orange(UK) for the 2.3rom ?
Maybe you should give credit to Sebastian404 for hosting those files?
_R2_D2_ said:
We've had mixed messages from Orange about 2.2. Perhaps they'll go straight to 2.3, assuming they bother at all!
The only European provider that has indicated they'll soon be doing a 2.2 for their version of the Blade is the Greek one. But AFAIK it's not confirmed and it's vaguely coming "in the New Year".
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News from China, ZTE V880 with 2.2rom will on sale at 28/dec from Unicom in China.
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Is there any news from Orange(UK) for the 2.3rom ?
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I have no background news or previous details but I would've thought Orange will not be that bothered about a pay-as-you go phone they are selling for less that £100 (at least here in the uk)?
That's one of the reasons I got it; it does some amazing things considering the price. Ah well, wait and see I suppose...
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I would've thought Orange will not be that bothered about a pay-as-you go phone they are selling for less that £100
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I agree. I don't expect anything official, updates will have to be custom.
Thats Bull****... Android 2.3 are only for Devices with min. 1GhZ....
So we can get happy if we become 2.2.. but 2.3 will never come out for Devices with 600MhZ !!!
EDIT : All Downloadlinks dont work for me...
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Thats Bull****... Android 2.3 are only for Devices with min. 1GhZ....
So we can get happy if we become 2.2.. but 2.3 will never come out for Devices with 600MhZ !!!
EDIT : All Downloadlinks dont work for me...
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I think you may be mistaken, 1 gig will be the minimum requirement for 3.0. There is no minimum for gingerbread afaik.
The confusion may have came from when gingerbread was fist announced and we all thought it was 3.0, at around the same time the system requirements for 3.0 were released.
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I think you may be mistaken, 1 gig will be the minimum requirement for 3.0. There is no minimum for gingerbread afaik.
The confusion may have came from when gingerbread was fist announced and we all thought it was 3.0, at around the same time the system requirements for 3.0 were released.
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let's see .. i dont believe that it will come out for this small devices...
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let's see .. i dont believe that it will come out for this small devices...
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I agree. It wont 'officially' be released for us...
None of the above links work for me, they all just take me to the http://android.podtwo.com/ front page.
pls provide working DL links if possible, thx
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Is there any news from Orange(UK) for the 2.3rom ?
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looked at the the orange site. no upgrades what so ever for 2.2 or 2.3.
p.s how do you tell what one you have tft or oled
Could someone please reupload the finnish stock rom (onevstarting with EFI). I'm in desperate need in returnig to stock rom because I noticed my ZTE Blade has a yellow tint at the bottom of the screen and I can't replace the handset with custom ROM.
All help much appreciated.
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Hi - I've been reading about how Google Maps Navigation has just been released into the market and does everything (and more) which a satnav will do, all for no money at all - but when I search my android market it isn't there? Any ideas where I might find this - it looks terrific?
I'm in the UK on Voda with a white, unlocked, Hero.
Many thanks!
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Hi - I've been reading about how Google Maps Navigation has just been released into the market and does everything (and more) which a satnav will do, all for no money at all - but when I search my android market it isn't there? Any ideas where I might find this - it looks terrific?
I'm in the UK on Voda with a white, unlocked, Hero.
Many thanks!
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You can't find it because its only released in the US for 1.6 Donut.
Tsk! Is the US-only thing important or should we Europeans be able to get it once we get the upgrade to 2.0? And thank you for your reply...
It's already been modified to work in Europe, I'm sure they're just finishing up support for the feature over here before releasing it officially.
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I'm in the UK on Voda with a white, unlocked, Hero.
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Unfortunately, as you may know, HERO is currently running on Android 1.5 CupCake, but not on 1.6 Donut, nor on 2.0 Eclair ...
Which means that, even when it will have been officialy released in Europe, it won't work on our Hero's
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Unfortunately, as you may know, HERO is currently running on Android 1.5 CupCake, but not on 1.6 Donut, nor on 2.0 Eclair ...
Which means that, even when it will have been officialy released in Europe, it won't work on our Hero's
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Yes, but I believe I'm right in thinking that we are shortly to get an update to 1.6 Donut?
Nope, HTC are skipping 1.6 for the Hero and will eventually release 2.0
Waiting ....
licenced said:
Nope, HTC are skipping 1.6 for the Hero and will eventually release 2.0
Waiting ....
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Okay, well that will be fine for the Google Maps Navigation, then. I was hoping for the update before Xmas...
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I was hoping for the update before Xmas...
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Hoping does not cost anything
I searched the market and can not find the this app and i live in the us.
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I searched the market and can not find the this app and i live in the us.
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not wanting to sound rude but have you read the above?
so since im running 1.5 it wont even show up in the market?
Correct.
Kinda what you would expect when people say it's out for 1.6 and 2.0 and discuss why it's not out for 1.5.
HTC Hero update to Android 2.1 pegged for mid-March
By Chris Ziegler posted Feb 9th 2010 5:35PM
We've known for ages that HTC's been working on yanking its custom-skinned Hero off of Cupcake's rusty frame, but so far, the only way to drop Android 2.0 or 2.1 on your phone has been to cheat, root, and load a custom or leaked ROM in place of the official first-party firmware. If you're too straightedge for that, though, keep the faith -- your binary isn't too far off. PR released today indicates that we can expect the Hero to get an Android 2.1 update with Sense in "mid March" according to HTC's Benelux team, and it'll feature a new Friend Stream widget that aggregates user updates across services (presumably a nod to Blur), tweaked Exchange support, and a handful of other goodies. This isn't necessarily indicative of when Hero versions in other regions (Sprint's version, for instance) will pick it up, but it's a solid start.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/02/09/htc-hero-update-to-android-2-1-pegged-for-mid-march/
blah wtf!!!. Its good dont get me wrong but still sketch on the sprint update
Ugh, I'm sick of waiting. T-Mobile here I come.
And thats from HTC. So we can expect an additional wait time from Sprint doing their crappy app tweaks. Maybe they will finally get Sprint tv working.
This isn't necessarily indicative of when Hero versions in other regions (Sprint's version, for instance) will pick it up, but it's a solid start.
I heard from an HTC rep that for Sprint it will be Feb 22.
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This isn't necessarily indicative of when Hero versions in other regions (Sprint's version, for instance) will pick it up, but it's a solid start.
I heard from an HTC rep that for Sprint it will be Feb 22.
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Along the same lines...If sprint were to post their update after the HTC official drop does that matter? Can't this be flashed directly to our phones (with out the sprint apps obviously)?
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Along the same lines...If sprint were to post their update after the HTC official drop does that matter? Can't this be flashed directly to our phones (with out the sprint apps obviously)?
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I think Sprint has to handle getting their network settings configured, so the Hero knows what to connect to.
I just talk to an HTC rep today and they said the same thing.
I sure hope it comes soon since the Droid is getting theirs this week according to this website
http://www.facebook.com/motorola?v=feed&story_fbid=294428153158&ref=mf
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I think Sprint has to handle getting their network settings configured, so the Hero knows what to connect to.
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this!!!! i think this is whats taking all the time
So if what the HTC reps told the two above posters is correct (not holding my breath), would it be better to go ahead and go with HTC's 2.1 or wait until one of our devs cooks one up?
By the way that this forum is looking we should have a pretty good looking 2.1 here pretty soon anyway. Just wondering.
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So if what the HTC reps told the two above posters is correct (not holding my breath), would it be better to go ahead and go with HTC's 2.1 or wait until one of our devs cooks one up?
By the way that this forum is looking we should have a pretty good looking 2.1 here pretty soon anyway. Just wondering.
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As soon as the HTC update drops, our devs will have it re-released for rooted users.. Probably within a day.
In short, if it drops, I'd wait at least 24 hours prior to installing the authentic version, because it'll close the loophole you used to root in the first place.
will we be able to go back?
Say we flash the rom the day it comes out...im dieing to try it... will we be able to use the recovery tools to unflash or will it somehow kill our recovery tools?
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Say we flash the rom the day it comes out...im dieing to try it... will we be able to use the recovery tools to unflash or will it somehow kill our recovery tools?
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From my experience with the PSP, DO NOT UPDATE YOUR PHONE! Give it a few days to make sure root is still possible or doable.
I'd wait until a dev cooks up a rooted version so you don't lose root.
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I'd wait until a dev cooks up a rooted version so you don't lose root.
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Here's an official build of 2.1 WITH SENSE running on a GSM Hero. Cool to see what we'll have to look forward to.
Video: HTC Sense on Android 2.1 enable pinch-to-zoom on home screen
I would rather wait for a custom Rom running 2.1 then use Sprints 2.1 Rom
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Here's an official build of 2.1 WITH SENSE running on a GSM Hero. Cool to see what we'll have to look forward to.
Video: HTC Sense on Android 2.1 enable pinch-to-zoom on home screen
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYDNlMYAaI
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Link fails: some CGI kid on a trike
EPIC on the march update but I want it now but who doesnt? I know I cant wait to un&*^& my market for my gmail account since i upped to a 2.0 AOSP rom signed in and went back to 1.5 forgetting about that from my android-vogue days and how it basically upgrades your market account then some apps purely wont be able to be found until you go back to that ver.
Hey guys,
in a german board someone said he is in contact with the SE support and today he was told that there is a new firmware out. It's called R2BAxxx and should fix the battery issues.
In an other board someone posted this
Hi guys!
The next firmware is due soon and it's called R2BA013.... it's contains some new features such as small ui improvements in timescape and mediascape and the creatuch app. This firmware is blazing fast and very much improved from .016. The battery time is also improved and it seems that the screen resolution looks better too. Also the face-recognition is very much improved. There is also a nice "slide" animation when browsing through pictures. All in all, this is probably what SE had in mind when releasing X10, and all I can say is that it's really good and I'm very pleased.
So if there's someone out there who's not sure to buy this phone because of the minor problems that's know in 0.14 firmware, I can almost guarantee you that this will fix them all and make you very pleased with the performance of the X10
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Does anyone allready have this firmware? Or has anyone further information about that?
Here are the links to the 2 topics:
http://www.pocketpc.ch/sony-ericsson-xperia-x10/82206-akkulaufzeit-des-x10-48.html#post593766 (GERMAN)
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=190867&start=4650 (post by joakimudden, scroll down)
From another thread here: http://www.xperiax10.net/2010/04/29...ing-performance-boost-creatouch-app/#more-654
I have to add, the german support said the update is allready out and in his office anyone was allready running the new version. He also said that it could take 1 or 2 more days until everyone can update but perhaps someone allready has?
bring it asap
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asap? What's that?
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asap? What's that?
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Soon
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Possible
Willey1986 said:
I have to add, the german support said the update is allready out and in his office anyone was allready running the new version. He also said that it could take 1 or 2 more days until everyone can update but perhaps someone allready has?
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the guy in esato said it's May or May-June, you sure that it would take 1 or 2 days ? I sure do hope so ...
the next OS update for the X10 whith the current Official Android newest version (2.1) is for september...
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the next OS update for the X10 whith the current Official Android newest version (2.1) is for september...
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well what we are expecting in may is some improvement on 1.6, it's better than nothing
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the next OS update for the X10 whith the current Official Android newest version (2.1) is for september...
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Yes i know that 2.1 will come in september but there must be an update before that to kill the issues like battery lifetime. This one will do that an bring us some ui improvements and timescape / mediascape fixes.
Guy's i can't seem to be able to update from even 1.04 to 1.06.
have you unbranded your handset? Seems to hit the unbranded ones first... others will be controlled by their network.
Hi all.. don't know if anyones heard anything official from SE on this or not?
I've just emailed there support email [email protected]
To ask for an official comment on timescale and functionality...
Cheers. Alan.
i have debranded my x10 rogers to generic NA x10a firmware. i seriously doubt that SE will release a firmware for this firmware seeing how the phone isn't officially released here in the states except for the x10i models.
i think for those of us with X10a, i think we will be waiting for the firmware update in late may or even in september. that's my take anyways.
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i have debranded my x10 rogers to generic NA x10a firmware. i seriously doubt that SE will release a firmware for this firmware seeing how the phone isn't officially released here in the states except for the x10i models.
i think for those of us with X10a, i think we will be waiting for the firmware update in late may or even in september. that's my take anyways.
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i figure the same thing
This new firmware improved batery life. Without SIM and without using it droped 14% in 24hours!
This new firmware improved batery life. Without SIM and without using it droped 14% in 24hours!
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and which firmware are you talking about?
The new R2****
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The new R2****
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wow where did you get it from ?
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Hi all.. don't know if anyones heard anything official from SE on this or not?
I've just emailed there support email [email protected]
To ask for an official comment on timescale and functionality...
Cheers. Alan.
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I done that eariler this week and no reply as of yet.
Andy
http://www.androidcentral.com/best-buy-now-expecting-hero-rom-update-may-7
At last ?
Or is it another web rumor ?
just wondering, what happened to the taiwan update end of april? any1 hear anything?
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I thought I read on here that the update is going to be in two stages, one preparing the phone and the other giving us 2.1 which was pushed back to June. Maybe this is just the crappy update.
I don't believe that bull****. Just another rumor.
Also can someone enlighten me what the hell means this: "and could cause seizures in small pets" ?
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Also can someone enlighten me what the hell means this: "and could cause seizures in small pets" ?
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yeah they really could have been more specific in what they mean by "small", are we talking hamster size seizures or Yorkshire terrier size seizures?
HTC
Damn...
I was considering doing the OTA update in a pet shop...
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I was considering doing the OTA update
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that's crazy talk
Anyway I was asking myself :
Assuming that almost every member/reader of this forum would have tried at least once to install a custom ROM on their Hero, what to expect from the Official 2.1 update ?
Will I be sticking with it ? Will I wait for Villain/Kimera/other ports ? Assuming also that custom Roms will never be 100% stable...
Because from my experience with custom roms (and I've installed A LOT of them on A LOT of devices), it's allways about finding a compromise between speed and stability...
Yep, it's wednesday morning and I really don't wanna get to work...
I think when this 2.1 update comes out (probably won't happen soon, not even friday, as we all know HTC) this only may help custom modders in the stability of their roms, nothing else I'm guessing.
Wouldn't that be the Sprint Hero anyway?
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Assuming also that custom Roms will never be 100% stable...
Because from my experience with custom roms (and I've installed A LOT of them on A LOT of devices), it's allways about finding a compromise between speed and stability...
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Hmmmm,.... Well I haven't had the experience of swapping and changing ROMs on my Hero,... But having had it for about 2-3 months now, I'm still 100% happy with the speed and stability of the ROM I flashed to it on day 1, ... MCR3.2. I think I'v had 3 or 4 application force closes, and only had it freeze up forcing a re-boot ONCE!!!
I'm sure the custom 2.1's will be just as stable once we get the official ROM to use as a base.
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Wouldn't that be the Sprint Hero anyway?
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Yes, I would assume so.
I'm not really looking for a more stable 2.1 rom. I just want the speed that is in the 1.5 roms. Since i've heard the 2.1 should be faster the the previous versions I have high hopes får the official release and that the dev can make the most out of it.
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So it wouldn't change anything, would it? I mean, don't we already have ROMs made from the Sprint Hero leak?
Hopefully this news would be true. I'm also looking forward to 2.1 rombut not because of its new capability but actually for developers in enhancing making the 2.1 rom using overclocked method
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Same here
Hope that devs wil make some nice looking and fast rom out of it.
And no way i;m flashing it on my G2. Lucky that the gold card procedure worked out for me.
Am @ Chpoubs_4.1 it looks amazing
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http://www.androidcentral.com/best-buy-now-expecting-hero-rom-update-may-7
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Or is it another web rumor ?
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no feel.....
I just really hope the battery life will improve.
Current 2.1 ROMs are already quick and stable enough for me, I wish the battery would last longer though. Aside from that, there are only a few minor bugs in most 2.1 ROMs that are currently out there, which do not really bother me.
Its not the 2.1 ROMS that are the problem its all down to the Kernel,which no1 has!surely if it was coming soon then it would have leaked somehow!
if you follow the link from the article it says sprint hero...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6386414#post6386414
Lucky Nexus One bustards
As owners for X10, are we eligible for this update??
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Google is also celebrating today - Android 2.2 Froyo has reached two important milestones. Google open sourced the latest version and they are pushing out the final Froyo update to Nexus One users. And we're sure the timing has nothing to do with the launch of the iPhone 4.
Sure, Froyo has been available to Nexus One users for a while (mostly on dev phones and through manual updates), but this seems to be the final, official version of Android 2.2. You could manually download the update from here (it works only if you're running FRF50 firmware), though if you don't know what you're doing, you should wait for the OTA update.
Your Nexus One should automatically check for updates or you could force a check (go to Settings -> About phone -> System updates), so one way or another you should be getting a notification that a new version is available and download it Over-the-Air.
Some people are reporting that the update is not available for them yet, so it might not work right away - rolling out updates is a gradual process and it varies by location too.
The other important milestone for Android 2.2 Froyo is that Google open-sourced the code to their partners and manufacturers and everyone else too. This means that they can start working on Froyo firmwares for the non-Google phones.
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Well the Nexus One is a Google brand phone so it's no huge surprise that the Nexus gets it first. It'd be more suprising if it didn't.
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Well the Nexus One is a Google brand phone so it's no huge surprise that the Nexus gets it first. It'd be more suprising if it didn't.
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Totally agree with you, but I believe SE should consider updating us (X10 users) to the 2.2 not 2.1
Anybody is reading from SE team???
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Totally agree with you, but I believe SE should consider updating us (X10 users) to the 2.2 not 2.1
Anybody is reading from SE team???
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You put your hope on SE? Joke or what?
The way I see it with Android devices is that you buy the hardware and then hack the software to hell and back. Just didn't count on the X10 being so hard to mod when I got it, guess I'm too used to HTC phones.
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The way I see it with Android devices is that you buy the hardware and then hack the software to hell and back. Just didn't count on the X10 being so hard to mod when I got it, guess I'm too used to HTC phones.
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I believe when the root is released we will not have any problems
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I believe when the root is released we will not have any problems
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Of course, I'm counting on that too. But the suspense is killing me.
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Of course, I'm counting on that too. But the suspense is killing me.
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did you hear any expected date of release?
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did you hear any expected date of release?
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I've heard tons of timeframes, all of them are "Later", "Soon", "When it's done" and so on. Afaict they've got it working but need to make it more noob-friendly as well as hide the exploit.
I understand that 'root' has been achieved, but won't there be further delays until a stable custom Rom is created for the x10?
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I understand that 'root' has been achieved, but won't there be further delays until a stable custom Rom is created for the x10?
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Oh yes, it will take anywhere from a short while to a very long time afterwards. Getting root is just one step of the way.
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Oh yes, it will take anywhere from a short while to a very long time afterwards. Getting root is just one step of the way.
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Thought as much. From the posts on other threads it seems as though posters think root and ROM will appear simultaneously.
I can imagine that the first ROMs we'll get our hands on will have all sorts of bugs, and we'll have to compromise on things like WiFi, Bluetooth e.t.c. Maybe due to lack of drivers available.
I'm going on past experience from The G1 and old WinMo devices.
Oh well.......
Remember to be realistic, guys. The devs can't just copy and paste Froyo onto our X10s without a hitch. It will take some time. I'm not even anticipating a stable version of Froyo on the X10 because it is a huge task.
What I'd like to see is the latest FW but stripped down with no branding or operator software (and no Moxier crap!!!). And if it's possible, for Flash to be released on the X10. That may not be feasible but I certainly hope it's available. SE takes forever!!
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Thought as much. From the posts on other threads it seems as though posters think root and ROM will appear simultaneously.
I can imagine that the first ROMs we'll get our hands on will have all sorts of bugs, and we'll have to compromise on things like WiFi, Bluetooth e.t.c. Maybe due to lack of drivers available.
I'm going on past experience from The G1 and old WinMo devices.
Oh well.......
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you are right but i can sacrifice and wait as this phone is a monster
bongd said:
Remember to be realistic, guys. The devs can't just copy and paste Froyo onto our X10s without a hitch. It will take some time. I'm not even anticipating a stable version of Froyo on the X10 because it is a huge task.
What I'd like to see is the latest FW but stripped down with no branding or operator software (and no Moxier crap!!!). And if it's possible, for Flash to be released on the X10. That may not be feasible but I certainly hope it's available. SE takes forever!!
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we have no option dear friend except to wait/pray and see the results
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we have no option dear friend except to wait/pray and see the results
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Already hoping and praying to Gods which I don't even worship! LOL