(Maybe not) Better Flash - Gen8 General

I searched around, but it doesn't look like this has been directly addressed on xda.
Archos 101IT-16 2.2.1 .71
I have tried the flash you can download from the market and the droid x version and they bih sucked in their own wonderful ways.
Just for kicks i thought I would sideload the version I could download with my nexus and it works much better than the other two. 10.1. 105.7
No root on either, went to market on nexus, dl flash, i have app installed that auto moves to sd, used astro to back it up, renamed it from pkg.apk to flash... and emailed it to myself, installed directly from email.
I don't do much that uses flash so tested what I could find. Youtube was smooth and a game off the flash demo site worked.
If you have a good site to test it on, leave a link and I will let you know how it works.

Any chance of loading it on here so we can test it on our 101's ??
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charlescaz said:
Any chance of loading it on here so we can test it on our 101's ??
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You can test this site.
http://waterlife.nfb.ca/

That's a pretty intense site. it works, but much choppier than my computer which still had some trouble keeping up.
The biggest problem I saw is on the computer, the rotations tried to follow the mouse. on the tablet, it seemed to think there was a bunch of input where there was none. (flicking back and forth and all around). Probably doesn't work well on other touch screen devices either.
What's a common site that uses flash?

When you say smooth on youtube, is it immediately smooth? the flash I have on mine goes smooth if you give it about 5 seconds. I cant interact with flash videos though. "Sometimes" I manage to fastfoward. Of course full screen doesn't work, volume doesnt work,. Etc...

Mine is smooth right away, full screen works .. I just picked a random video (imagine no toilets) I expected a parody on imagine, but I was able to move the selector anywhere in the downloaded stream smoothly. when i went ahead too far, it glitched while it built a new buffer, but so does my laptop.
just tried another one and if the spool is not finished, it seems to restart the stream from my new point, but it's pretty quick. I am also using HQ mode. hmm that seems like an error with the spool bar as I can easily move back and forth between the known downloaded points.

For anyone who wants it, here you go!
I tried it out on my 101 and it works good for the lower quality videos. It still skips and freezes on the HQ stuff. (This is of course using the browser and not the youtube app)

I tried the apk from my N1 also (same version as OP) without success. I tried a youtube vid from archosfans and it was very jumpy. I then tried a video from NFL.com with worse results.
I got a video at MetaCafe to work which is a first. Break.com was a fail as was most every other site I used.
So, it appears this is a bit better as I could not get any to work using the droidx version. I hope Archos gives us a decent one soon...

e4xda said:
I hope Archos gives us a decent one soon...
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Adobe is the holdup; they have to provide a certified version. It seems like I've been waiting on Adobe to do stuff for about 25 years now.

I have gapps4archos v4 installed and i can't seem to find flash (even unoptimized flash) in the market.
Can anybody help?

Heres the flash i use for my 101 , it plays Youtube in full screen and on HQ no problem , web page flash is sometimes a bit jerky , but in general the best i have found . Cant remember the exact source , so credit to the person i received it from .

can you post a link of a HQ youtube video that plays smoothly?
For me nothing is played smooth except the mobile optimized pixelated videos, this is the same as with the market flash...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o
Using youtubeapp 2.1. 6
With high quality on mobile checked.
Tried it on browser with desktop agent and desktop youtube and it was harsh
m.youtube.com bites as it plays some junk rendition in video player.

675 Trip said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQlIhraqL7o
Using youtubeapp 2.1. 6
With high quality on mobile checked.
Tried it on browser with desktop agent and desktop youtube and it was harsh
m.youtube.com bites as it plays some junk rendition in video player.
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Youtube app isn't flash. Only if you go to the desktop Youtube page will it be flash.

Doh,
i swear my youtube didn't work until i reinstalled flash
I'll remove it and see if yt still works

Tried on 101 with dolphin with desktop useragent. Doesn't work. Hangs on youtube will play some flash but very choppy.

So, the youtube app still works well with flash removed after reboot, but you can't use the www website to link to videos.

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YouTube video - what's the best solution?

When I go to www.youtube.com in Pocket IE, it automatically re-directs to "m.youtube.com". So far so good - everything comes up including the thumbnails. Click on any thumb and you get the expected screen including "Watch Video". BUT ... clicking on that produces an error screen that says "Running a system command on this item might be unsafe. Do you wish to continue?"
Clicking YES only results is a "rtsp ... 3gp" file can NOT be opened.
So, how did this guy back on June 18, 2007 do it on the Touch as shown in this video ??
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3930
I thought that the Sprint Touch supports 3GPP streaming out-of-the-box ?
streaming media
You need a program called HTC streaming media. Just Google it.
Streaming YouTube on WM6 (Touch included I'd assume)
anywhereanytime said:
When I go to www.youtube.com in Pocket IE, it automatically re-directs to "m.youtube.com". So far so good - everything comes up including the thumbnails. Click on any thumb and you get the expected screen including "Watch Video". BUT ... clicking on that produces an error screen that says "Running a system command on this item might be unsafe. Do you wish to continue?"
Clicking YES only results is a "rtsp ... 3gp" file can NOT be opened.
So, how did this guy back on June 18, 2007 do it on the Touch as shown in this video ??
http://www.theunwired.net/?itemid=3930
I thought that the Sprint Touch supports 3GPP streaming out-of-the-box ?
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This would help
http://ytpocket.com
It's a 2-steps thing:
- Download the TCPMP
- Play Youtube content.
HTH....my 2 cents
second for VTAp. Has videos from all google videos, youtube, and a few other places. Its like connected so its updated the same rate the sites are updated as well. Its just overall great!
i think it s!
is any1 having trouble? i did the ytpocket and when visit youtube on PIE my phone pretty much freezes up...
vTap works great ... thanks for the input !!
vtap is the best that is what im using. works like a charm.
i tried vTap and its okay, but the thing that pisses me off are the load times and the ****ty quality. so i went with typocket.com, they have 2 easy installs that take less than a minute, with GREAT FULL SCREEN quality and super fast load times, almost seems like its streaming
so give ytpocket.com
I've got ytpocket and tcpmp installed. Some reason all videos are very choppy, sound is clean but video looks like its refreshing slowly (like if you don't have the proper video card drivers installed on your pc thats how it looks) Its not buffering or anything.
Are there any tweaks I have to apply to get better video frame rate?
ludester said:
I've got ytpocket and tcpmp installed. Some reason all videos are very choppy, sound is clean but video looks like its refreshing slowly (like if you don't have the proper video card drivers installed on your pc thats how it looks) Its not buffering or anything.
Are there any tweaks I have to apply to get better video frame rate?
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Go into options and switch it from DirectDraw to raw and your videos should be smoother.
spunks3 said:
is any1 having trouble? i did the ytpocket and when visit youtube on PIE my phone pretty much freezes up...
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You have to unintstall the macromedia flashplayer 7 in order for you to successfully view the regular youtube site.
cruise350 said:
Go into options and switch it from DirectDraw to raw and your videos should be smoother.
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thank you that did the trick
ludester said:
thank you that did the trick
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Which options ?
Thank you
Another good option
I have used vTap and I though it was very good, although I had to put up with a lot of wait icons.
I have been experimenting with this option... http://www.avotmedia.com/ and it has been quite usable so far. Video is very smooth and I have not had one single wait icon while using this program.
Check it out. I originally heard about here or PPCG, one of the two.
I use this
http://wmexperts.com/articles/howto/full_youtube_on_windows_mobile.html
works good
Full Youtube is kinda fun and boredom saving
I own a Sprint Touch and just installed this cab and m.youtube.com now works with IE!! I did not have to do a regedit either...
Here is the link!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1323244&postcount=17
Kudos to rvbcrs ...
Arnold
I use www.tinytube.net works well also allows you to stream or download if you choose.
arguinto said:
I own a Sprint Touch and just installed this cab and m.youtube.com now works with IE!! I did not have to do a regedit either...
Here is the link!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1323244&postcount=17
Kudos to rvbcrs ...
Arnold
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What does the cab actually allow you to do? When to the link but really didn't have an explanation of what it does.
does this work with full youtube or just m.youtube.com (mobile youtube)??
Try using ORB

youtube?

has anyone been able to get the HTC youtube player to work ?
when it tries to play a video on my vogue it just freezes ...
It works for me but the only problem is that the audio is always out of sync, always...
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...it just freezes...
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Same here with HTC Youtube on my Sprint Vogue. It's first screen is really nice, shows neat little summaries. But when one is selected to play, ugh! First of all, the player goes left handed on me, sort of upside down. And the aspect ratio of the area for video is rediculously w-i-d-e screen. Worst of all, it just freezes, curable only via soft reset.
So, my use of HTC Youtube is only to pick out a video. Next, I open up youtubeplay, enter keywords from HYt, and then download the FLV file rather than viewing it. Once D/L'd, I use TCPMP to play it nice and smooth, sync'd too.
Youtubeplay is available here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385227&highlight=youtubeplay
And TCPMP here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380387&highlight=TCPMP
Works perfect for me. First install the app, then the ravest fix.
I've found that the least troublesome way to use flash is to use Skyfire (mobile browser), plays pretty much any flash file inside the browser. It's also free.
http://www.skyfire.com/
http://www.opera.com/mobile/
You can also fire up Opera Mobile Ver 9.5 or higher and simply install the You Tube Widget.

YOutube vidoes hardly play.

So I have a Hero... and at fist it had bad quality until I found out that the setting could be changed. Now, my problem is that I can only play 1 out of 10 videos I try and play, it sucks... is there anything I can do to fix it and is anyone else having this problem??
yea, alot of videos dont work from the youtube app, even more dont work from youtube via the web browser + going through the browser gives ****ty quality
lets hope htc fix this up in 2.0/2.1 when they release it with the sense ui!
xsirhc6x said:
yea, alot of videos dont work from the youtube app, even more dont work from youtube via the web browser + going through the browser gives ****ty quality
lets hope htc fix this up in 2.0/2.1 when they release it with the sense ui!
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i heard in 2.0 most videos work cause of flash 10?
So I need 2.0?? How do I get it?
Also, is there maybe a differnt app or program that allows me to play youtube videos that isn't the one that comes with the phone? links if any plz.
are you on the stock rom? i'm using modaco's 3.0 and haven't got any problems, either on 3g or wifi.
there might be some media player apps that play streaming videos. on windows mobile, i used to use 'coreplayer' to stream youtube videos, worked well. there's gotta be one or two on android that do this??
btw, where is the setting to change the quality?
android really needs a coreplayer i miss the youtube on that works flawlessly
*EDIT*
maybe i spoke to soon
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2885
nice!!! android needs this!
yes.. please.. what to do.. to fix this ??
I dont like.. that we have a youtube app.. that is 1/10 working!
any one.. have ideas ??
I think Youtube are using some Flash10 exclusive coding techniques that our beloved Hero can't handle due to the Hero actually don't have a full blown Flash10 support...
This would make sense, except that before I got the hero I had the mytouch and youtube app worked great with little to no problems (I've tried it on both a stock and rooted rom on both hero and mytouch). I'm having a hard time understanding why the hero has problems with it.
I do find that sometime if I go into a task manager and kill youtube and start it again it works for a bit. It seems also that changing the quality of the video causes it to quit working too.
I must be very lucky every single video i tryed to watch worked fine with stock ROM...
Maybe is connection related...or just pure luck
They should work as if I'm not mistake the youtube player links to the mp4 feed, he may need to update his rom to the latest version which plays smoothly.

Flash player judder?

I've got the 10.1 flash and it was updated today too but any flash videos I watch are often juddering. It's almost like stop motion animation. Does anyone else's player play ok? If I use skyfire browser they generally play ok but I prefer the stock browser.
Also, on previous phones if I click a YouTube link from a forum the YouTube app would open to play it. On my dhd it goes to the YouTube site to play and then I get the juddery issue above. Is there a way of making the YouTube app open automatically when clicking a link?
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On my phone all the flash videos play fine and in HD. (it played fine with the original flash that came with the phone, but I have now installed the one from the market to be sure to get the latest updates).
As for youtube, all the links open in full screen in the player (sometimes I need to click on the icon to get it to open in fullscreen).
The DHD comes with youtube 1.6, but I have updated it with version 2 from the market.
Could you post a link to a flash video youve watched that played smoothly so i can check mine?
EDIT: for example can you play this video smoothly?
http://kotaku.com/5680580/hulk-hogan-plays-def-jam-rapstar-flashes-his-junk
Just judders for me
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On my phone all the flash videos play fine and in HD. (it played fine with the original flash that came with the phone, but I have now installed the one from the market to be sure to get the latest updates).
As for youtube, all the links open in full screen in the player (sometimes I need to click on the icon to get it to open in fullscreen).
The DHD comes with youtube 1.6, but I have updated it with version 2 from the market.
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just a quick question, i have tried searching this youtube version 2 on the market,but it ain't showing..do u know any other means i can upgrade the youtube player on my DHD?
thanks
skimminstones said:
EDIT: for example can you play this video smoothly?
http://kotaku.com/5680580/hulk-hogan-plays-def-jam-rapstar-flashes-his-junk
Just judders for me
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No, this one judders as well. But when you play it there is a popup text that says "This video is not optimized for mobile devices". So, the website is at fault for not providing a web optimized video.
But this is the first time I have a problem with a video, all of the other flash videos I have come across always play properly.
You can try the videos on bbc.com, cnn.com, youtube.com, etc... Either you will get a popup asking you if you want to play the video in the play or you can play it on the page.
iznee said:
just a quick question, i have tried searching this youtube version 2 on the market,but it ain't showing..do u know any other means i can upgrade the youtube player on my DHD?
thanks
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It's there, the only youtube version I see on the market is version 2.0.26.
Usually when you can't see something in the market it's because it isn't avaialbe for your area. I don't know if this is the problem you are experiencing.
Google also provides it at m.google.com/youtube , but I don't know if it's the same version.

stock browser downloads and video playback

Not sure if it's just me or not but I'm having a lot of issues with downloading files over the air using the stock browser. Files whether they be apk's,zip,rar or mp3 rarely download successfully. I always have to use firefox browser for the downloads to complete. is anyone else having this issue? I have already reverted back to stock kernel to see if that may have been the issue. Also another problem that I been having is a lot of my videos (.mp4) that use to play just fine in the native video player don't play back anymore. I just get a black screen of it trying to load and have to use moboplayer which is fine since moboplayer works great but definitely annoying.
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je2345 said:
Also another problem that I been having is a lot of my videos (.mp4) that use to play just fine in the native video player don't play back anymore. I just get a black screen of it trying to load and have to use moboplayer which is fine since moboplayer works great but definitely annoying.
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Try accessing the videos using a file-explorer rather than using Gallery, so they start that way. Gallery can be a bit picky every now and then, especially if you move your files around a bit.
I have the same problem, it seems to me that direct links to file work ok (no matter what the file type is), but links with redirects don't work (it downloads the redirecting page not the file).

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