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Hi all,
My Universal (XDA Exec) power connector is on its way out.. started off with intermittently not being able to charge/sync, tried waggling the cable around worked for a while, but now it's to no avail..
Typically it's happened exactly 1 month after the 1 year warranty has run out.
So, can anyone recommend a repair shop in the UK to fix said problem ?
many thanks!
Don't be fobbed off that you only have a 1 year warranty. By UK and EU law, you have at least 2 years and under English law you have a warranty for as long as one should expect such an item to last. Indeed, the law is balanced in the consumer's favour for the first SIX years where the onus is to prove it *wasn't* a fault in the unit. After that, you have to prove it was.
Take a look at open.gov.uk and read up on the Sales of Goods Act.
From a letter I recently wrote to a vendor refusing to honour my statutory rights:
The advertisement clearly states that the item is "New" and that you are a commercial vendor and therefore I have statutory rights to a warranty not less than 2 years, set out not only in Article 2 of the Product Warranty Directive in European law but also in the Sale Of Goods Act 1979, Sale and Supply of Goods and Services Act 1982, Sale and Supply of Goods Act 1994 and the Sale and Supply of Goods to Consumer Regulations 2002.
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Not only that, if you bought it mail order, you shouldn't even be out of pocket for the return of the faulty goods. From the Sale of Goods Act:
"the business is not entitled to charge for recovery of the goods if the consumer has a statutory right to cancel the contract under other legislation, (for example because they are defective)"
That said, don't go in all guns blazing. Ask politely and most retailers will take the goods back for repair/replacement. My rule of thumb is ask nicely once, firmly but politely once and read them my rights the third time.
Also, don't be fooled into believing the warranty is with the manufacturer. Your contract is with the company who sold the (new) unit to you and it is their responsibility to honour it. So when they say "you'll have to send it to the manufacturer" you can reply "I'll make it available for collection by you or your agents and how you proceed with a replacement or repair is not of my concern, as long as I'm not without a comparable unit for an unreasonable time."
HTH
Thanks for your reply..
I just got off the phone to o2 and they said..
"It's out of Warranty.. the Warranty lasts as long as your Contract, i.e. 12/18 month contract = 12/18 month Warranty. After that, you can just get a free upgrade to a new phone (or the same phone).."
Mentioning your above facts of being at least 2 years Warranty by law didn't sway him in the slightest, he just re-iterated that I could get an upgrade..
However, It's slightly more complicated in that i've just left o2 and changed to t-mobile for a better data tariff.. so it doesn't appear as though i have a lot of leverage.
Don't let that deter you. When on the telephone, always ask for the name (first and last. If they say "we can't give out last names" ask if they are the only Debbie/Malcom/whatever there and how to be sure of speaking to them next time you call), office and extension number of the person to whom you are speaking, always note it down. If they'll give it, get their email address and follow up the conversation with an email saying "Following on from my call to you at 15:30 this afternoon (8th Nov 2006), this is my understanding of conversation. You stated that the warranty supplied by O2 on telephones is limited only to the period of the contract even if this is against my statutory rights, as laid out in the Sale of Goods act and other relevant laws."
If you don't get satisfaction from the person on the telephone, insist on speaking to their supervisor. If they are no better, go the next step up. Always be firm, polite and stick to your guns. If you get nowhere, ask for the postal address of the highest person you spoke to and the name and address of their manager. Right a letter, sent recorded delivery, to the them both, sent signed-for delivery, similar to the one I posted earlier. Give them a reasonable period to resolve the issue (10 working days / 14 calendar days from the date of receipt of the letter for refund, 20 working days / 28 calendar days for repair is ample). If that doesn't work, your second letter (if possible, going to the next person up the chain too) should state that you'll proceed to take them to court (small claims track) as you are within your statutory rights. State if if go to court, you will also seek expenses including but not limited to time off work to attend court and for meetings with solicitors, any solicitor and court fees that may be incurred, travel to and from solicitors and court, but you are will accept your replacement, repair or refund if the matter is resolved in the next 14 days. Next step is trading standards and CAB. After that, it's court (you'll win).
Don't let people push you around. These are you LEGAL rights. Big companies try it on all the time. So far, I've not had to get past the written letter stage, but I've been up against Virgin Internet, T Mobile, NTL, the AA and other big companies. When they know you won't give up and they know that you're fully aware of your rights, they will resolve the matter.
And on the subject of O2, they have been utterly hopeless.
considering I'm supposed to have 24 business support, it's taken them almost a week to replace my handset (which I've had less than 2 weeks) and then they've sent me out one that's clearly been used (albeit not much: it had 9 seconds of outgoing calls on it. Probably one a salesman has played with/demonstrated).
Success
What can I say, except thank you xiasma!
After a nicely crafted email quoting the statutory rights info you mentioned below to O2 careline, they informed me that O2 actually offer a full 2 year warranty for XDA's. Even though I've since moved to T-Mobile, it matters not, I just had to take the unit to an O2 store along with proof of purchase.
No hassle at all from O2 shop, they just took my details and phone and told me to wait 7-10 days.
2 weeks later (hence no update till now) I am now the proud owner of a new (ok, refurbed) XDA Exec and a further year warranty.
As a bonus for my trouble, they actually gave me a fully boxed unit, so I now have a spare charger, styluses (stylee ?), case, battery, cables, etc..
Power to the people. or something.
By reading this topic im furious, ive had the exact same problem, went to o2 with the battery connector completely loose, they said that it was at my own fault that this occured and its not covered under warranty, now ive tried fixing it myself and probably f****ed it up more and still doesnt work. I dont know what to do now
Sorry to hear my good news has pee'd you off!
The only thing I can think is that the connector on mine wasn't actually loose or anything, just that it wouldn't take power from the connector. Because yours sounds like physical damage, they (O2) could argue that it may have been dropped or abused in some way.
Don't know what you can do really except try emailing O2 Care and see what they can do for you..
mate your email inspired me to write an email of complaint last night, low and behold they gave me a call this morning and said they are sending me a replacement asap. woah!
i have similar prob in UK with t-mob. USB connector fell inside the pda. I was in shop claiming its under warranty(4 months after purchase). After 30days i got it back unrepaired with statement thats beyond repair (price more than L200). I wrote them letter on 11.11.2006 (delivered to shop same day) with complain that in netherlands t-mob offered customer repair, imate offered waranty repair somewhere (dont know country) - no answer. on 18.11.2006 i sent them warning that if they wont repair, replace ... i'll raise action (i gave them 7days to answer) - they didnt (resp. i got answr via email on 25.11-8days after they recieved my letter). I already sent phone for repair to apexlaptops. I already filled the small claims action, and im waiting for quotation from apex to hand it over to sheriffs court.
It says they wont let you return notebooks or computers, but they have the tablet under notebooks? I have one here that I would like to open and inspect to compare with my amazon tablet, which ever one has "less issues" I would like to keep... but I dont know if I should open the adorama transformer?? Any help...
Call Adorama. Tell them that it will be a gift. If my dad does not like it (1. opened; 2. unopened), can I return it?
If the policy is as you state, whether opened or not, you might NOT be able to return.
Same policy on TigerDirect.
Once you get it you cannot return it for a refund, unless you refused the original delivery. All RMA issues have to be dealt with ASUS directly.
Tsk tsk tsk. ALWAYS research return/refund policies when buying anything... especially electronics.
Regardless, just return the worst one to Amazon. They don't check for serial numbers or anything. I returned my Walmart TF to Newegg and vice-versa without any issues. The UPC code is the same.
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Tsk tsk tsk. ALWAYS research return/refund policies when buying anything... especially electronics.
Regardless, just return the worst one to Amazon. They don't check for serial numbers or anything. I returned my Walmart TF to Newegg and vice-versa without any issues. The UPC code is the same.
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^^^ and this is the reason some sites don't take returns
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Same policy on TigerDirect.
Once you get it you cannot return it for a refund, unless you refused the original delivery. All RMA issues have to be dealt with ASUS directly.
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I know everyone says this about TigerDirect and i think it even says so on the website. But when I called them and told them all my issues and asked to just to just get my money back. They gave me no issues. Instantly emailed me the return label, paid for by them, and a few days later I got my money refunded too. I think I might have just gotten very lucky and got a great rep though, becuase my other times calling about the same issues I got a bunch of bs and run around. So i think if you really try the reps can do anything they want for you. haha
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ill call them tomorrow... if that's the case I will never buy from them again... and ill return the amazon one..
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It says they wont let you return notebooks or computers, but they have the tablet under notebooks? I have one here that I would like to open and inspect to compare with my amazon tablet, which ever one has "less issues" I would like to keep... but I dont know if I should open the adorama transformer?? Any help...
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Ok no offense, but you are exactly the reason WHY there are those kinds of return policies in the first place. I'm dead serious. Returns are expensive for retailers. They are bad enough when there are legit reasons for the return but when people do stuff like what you are attempting it's fraudulent in my opinion. Stores don't exist to work like libraries where you check out an item play with it see if it has issues and then return it when you are done playing.
If people would stop doing things like what you are attempting return procedures would likely be a bit more lax and restocking fee's wouldn't exist. Businesses are in business to make money, shocking i know. And returns are not profitable.
What you should be doing is taking any build quality issues up with the manufacturer NOT the retailer. They didn't make it and shouldn't be suffering a loss so you can play "which one will i keep". As a business owner myself i can spot people like yourself a mile away and i usually direct your business elsewhere, customers like that just aren't worth the trouble.
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Ok no offense, but you are exactly the reason WHY there are those kinds of return policies in the first place. I'm dead serious. Returns are expensive for retailers. They are bad enough when there are legit reasons for the return but when people do stuff like what you are attempting it's fraudulent in my opinion. Stores don't exist to work like libraries where you check out an item play with it see if it has issues and then return it when you are done playing.
If people would stop doing things like what you are attempting return procedures would likely be a bit more lax and restocking fee's wouldn't exist. Businesses are in business to make money, shocking i know. And returns are not profitable.
What you should be doing is taking any build quality issues up with the manufacturer NOT the retailer. They didn't make it and shouldn't be suffering a loss so you can play "which one will i keep". As a business owner myself i can spot people like yourself a mile away and i usually direct your business elsewhere, customers like that just aren't worth the trouble.
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I disagree. Online retailers need to know that people are not able to "try" things out before purchasing like a B&M. For example, recently, I bought $300 worth of sunglasses to see which pair fit my face/style. I will mail back the ones that I did not select.
Why should it be different with electronics? No major B&M electronic retailer has restocking fees anymore except Sears. I'm sure that will end eventually. For me, I will not shop at a place that has a fee when it comes to small electronics (handheld devices, phones, etc.).
Don't worry, OP. No one is getting a free lunch from Amazon either.
Just saw this on AMAZON TF101 SPECS section:
Amazon.com Returns Policies: You may return any new computer purchased from Amazon.com that is "dead on arrival," arrives in damaged condition, or is still in unopened boxes, for a full refund within 30 days of purchase. Amazon.com reserves the right to test "dead on arrival" returns and impose a customer fee equal to 15 percent of the product sales price if the customer misrepresents the condition of the product. Any returned computer that is damaged through customer misuse, is missing parts, or is in unsellable condition due to customer tampering will result in the customer being charged a higher restocking fee based on the condition of the product. Amazon.com will not accept returns of any desktop or notebook computer more than 30 days after you receive the shipment. New, used, and refurbished products purchased from Marketplace vendors are subject to the returns policy of the individual vendor.
Of course, Amazon would be flexible about a defect (vs DOA), and be more flexible than to people who say, "I just did not like it. Wasn't what I expected."
I love my TF and I am keeping one.. I just put one on craiglist for $415 I think thats a fair price.. I am not "making" any money but that was never the point.. I just wanted to make sure I got a good one... they both are great with very little light leak, they both have the unbalanced sound but I see there is a fix for this already, so some one is gonna get lucky and get a transformer locally at cost, with no tax! lol
Not to be too legalistic but as far as I know no merchant through the use of any policy or provision can excuse themselves from the obligation of selling merchandise that is fit for its intended purpose.
If I sell you a toaster that does not toast, a knife that does not cut or a tablet that bleeds light out of the sides of the screen you have a pretty good case to demand full reimbursement.
Anyone can put up a sign "All Sales Are Final" or "Absolutely No Returns" or whatever they like but store policies never ever under any circumstances allow for a seller to commit fraud. If you tell the people that you gave the money to that the item does not work as promised through their onsite advertising (i.e. no mention of unequal sound or screenshots that do not show light bleed) you are entitled to cancel the sale since they took your money and did not give you the promised goods in exchange. You not obligated to let them try again, charge you a restocking fee, give you store credit or anything else.
Obviously I'm not a lawyer so you're mileage may vary. But I have found by plainly stating that the product in question is not fit for its intended purpose and as such I would like a refund yields a mostly desirous result. If the retailer held firm I would then call my credit card company and then worse case small claims.
The key is to keep saying unfit - unusable - not as advertised. Technical terms can cause subjective analysis while those three are pretty clear and can be elaborated on but not replaced (i.e. it's unfit because I bought it listen to music but one speaker is louder than the other, it is unusable because I bought it to view photos but the screen bleeds lights from the sides, etc.).
I'm sure they will help you regardless but no reason to bow down to some internet verbiage that outright dismisses their obligations under most state laws. As far as I am concerned a product received in unadvertised condition is DOA. Might as well be a brick if it doesn't do what it's supposed to do how it's supposed to do it.
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It says they wont let you return notebooks or computers, but they have the tablet under notebooks? I have one here that I would like to open and inspect to compare with my amazon tablet, which ever one has "less issues" I would like to keep... but I dont know if I should open the adorama transformer?? Any help...
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Best thing is to email me directly with your order number: [email protected]
BTW the returns policy as it relates to certain items is set by the manufacturers not by Adorama.
If an item in this category is found to be faulty or damaged on arrival it will be covered under the manufacturer warranty - but needs to be returned directly the manufacturer.
Helen Oster
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Hey guys and gals, say hi to Helen. (Hi Helen, been a while since I've seen you around the internet.) She is one of the many reasons I like to use Adorama. How many companies have you seen that are this proactive? (I've heard Asus is active here too. That was an extra selling point for the TF for me.)
I usually deal with them for camera gear and they are very good about returns. Looks like their laptop policy is a wee bit different but I guess we now know why.
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Hey guys and gals, say hi to Helen. (Hi Helen, been a while since I've seen you around the internet.) She is one of the many reasons I like to use Adorama. How many companies have you seen that are this proactive?
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Hi! That's good to hear!
2 weeks ago I shipped my dock back to Asus to remove the "feature" that drains the battery.
It was received according to the tracking information, the address was copied and pasted onto a shipping label so I know it was right.
The status website is unable to locate the RMA number that was emailed to me by Asus, when I called initially they confirmed receipt of the dock and it was being repaired.
Today I call and was told they have not received the dock and are still waiting for me to ship it to them. I demanded a manager but the rep refused and told me I never sent them the dock. I offered to give him my tracking information and he said that proves nothing.
At this point Asus is calling me a liar and has my dock. What recourse do I have here?
I say just keep on calling and demand for a manager every time until you get one
1st thing I would do is contact the company that shipped it to ASUS and get all the shipping and receipt details. It should have a signature, date and time of receipt. Then file a claim with the shipper stating that is was not received by asus. Let them assist in chasing it down. Either they will help prove asus received it or you can file a claim with them.
I called the post office, they said all they can do is confirm the address and it's receipt. He said I could open a lost package claim but it will be closed as soon as the person assigned sees that the tracking shows it was delivered.
I am at work right now so can't spend all day calling Asus over and over again but taking half a day and will try this afternoon.
Does anyone have a number to a higher tiered support?
Try asking then about in on their Facebook page. I don't have Facebook, but I believe they do.
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I called the post office, they said all they can do is confirm the address and it's receipt. He said I could open a lost package claim but it will be closed as soon as the person assigned sees that the tracking shows it was delivered.
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If you have verification of delivery, that's all you need to provide to Asus. Doesn't matter if someone sat on it, lost it under a pizza box, or whatever. Once it's delivered, it's their problem.
If the Asus support line won't let you escalate, I suggest you post on the Asus Facebook page(s) and perhaps PM kimi_Q on XDA, who seems to be an Asus employee. And, the next time you get a disagreeable Asus tech, ask for a name or at least initials.
Are these people even ASUS? I seem to get the vibe that the repair centers, like most, are just contracted "Bubba's Computer Fixin'" just like everything else.
I called back, a manager told me to wait another week and then they will escalate it. He said the repair facility is backlogged due to the large number of repairs for the dock.
While I believe the last part, the first is complete BS. They should be able to scan it in that day, I understand not fixing it within 24 hours but to still not even acknowledge receipt of the device is absurd.
I posted on their Facebook about the issue. After years of supporting their motherboards and Eee line, this is the last Asus product I will ever buy.
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I called back, a manager told me to wait another week and then they will escalate it. He said the repair facility is backlogged due to the large number of repairs for the dock.
While I believe the last part, the first is complete BS. They should be able to scan it in that day, I understand not fixing it within 24 hours but to still not even acknowledge receipt of the device is absurd.
I posted on their Facebook about the issue. After years of supporting their motherboards and Eee line, this is the last Asus product I will ever buy.
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My dock shipped yesterday after being received in on 8/12 ( 4 days including weekend) Keep checking back on the facebook page as they have been known to delete posts they don't want users to see.
This dock fiasco is insane. ASUS needed to put out a recall and pay to have these docks returned to them. You send them your dock and they call you a liar and say they never got it? I call in and they say they've never heard of this dock drain issue before, but ask to send rma the dock at my expense. Unbelievable.
All of us with this dock issue need to file a class action lawsuit against ASUS. Are there any lawyers in the house?
That is exactly why I ship anything of value by either UPS or Fedex with signature required. Instead of try to save a few bucks & shipping stuff via the USPS.
If it doesn't turn up in a day or two, go Apple on them and get a lawsuit
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That is exactly why I ship anything of value by either UPS or Fedex with signature required. Instead of try to save a few bucks & shipping stuff via the USPS.
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This and tbh, Fedex ground can even be cheaper than priority sometimes.
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This seems to be the trend with asus..
Too many negative reports about asus already. Theyre on their game when releasing updates, but they need clean up their act with all these screw ups.
Bad tablets, bad docks, returned with damages, lost units...wtf asus?
And before someone gets their panties bunched up..
Yes..yes.. buy an ipad.
I got my complain "escalated to management". Facebook page --> Support --> Escalated support.
Got a response within 24 hours, and they sent me shipping label to have my tab end up at the repair center for the second time!
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I got my complain "escalated to management". Facebook page --> Support --> Escalated support.
Got a response within 24 hours, and they sent me shipping label to have my tab end up at the repair center for the second time!
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Thanks I'll go that route when I get home today
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I think ASUS will resolve it if you can talk to the right people. Sometimes the USPS does screw up, so it is one of the two. But, if ASUS has an issue with USPS they should still resolve your RMA and deal with USPS separately.
Otherwise, you have the nuclear option: BBB complaint on both USPS and RMA.
Just escalated the issue via Facebook.
The BBB is useless as they have no authority other than to wag their finger at the company and I cannot file a complaint with the USPS as they fulfilled their end of the deal by delivering it.
Heard back from someone after the Facebook message who says they are looking into it
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This dock fiasco is insane. ASUS needed to put out a recall and pay to have these docks returned to them. You send them your dock and they call you a liar and say they never got it? I call in and they say they've never heard of this dock drain issue before, but ask to send rma the dock at my expense. Unbelievable.
All of us with this dock issue need to file a class action lawsuit against ASUS. Are there any lawyers in the house?
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suing them are what ground?
they never specify that there will be no battery drain,
and the fact is you still do get 16 hours of continuous use as advertised.
you can only sue them if something is false advertised, but unfortunately they never made that claim about how long the machine can be standby for.
Don't get me wrong, from the consumer point of view, I do think they should fix this issue, and fix it quick, but suing them is a bit too much.
Hi, I requested a refund for my Moto X and received a return label on the December 29, sent the phone by UPS and the received it on the December 30, it took until the January 9 for them just to process in the system so they can refund the money. I called customer service and they told me its going to take another 5-10 business days just to receive the refund. This is the worst customer service I have seen. Does anyone had good experience with them?
Seems pretty standard for an online purchase to me. Keep in mind they are probably dealing with more than usual due to the holiday season. I buy crap online all the time and on the rare occasion I have to return something, 2 weeks is pretty much the standard time frame to get the credit but sometimes it takes a little longer. Nothing out of the ordinary here. Amazon would be the sole exception. They usually get refunds credited back in under a week.
I've dealt with Motorola's customer service on more than one occasion and have had nothing but positive experiences.
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Seems pretty standard for an online purchase to me. Keep in mind they are probably dealing with more than usual due to the holiday season. I buy crap online all the time and on the rare occasion I have to return something, 2 weeks is pretty much the standard time frame to get the credit but sometimes it takes a little longer. Nothing out of the ordinary here. Amazon would be the sole exception. They usually get refunds credited back in under a week.
I've dealt with Motorola's customer service on more than one occasion and have had nothing but positive experiences.
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Yes that's why I tell people if YOU can try buying your products in stores with cash. That way any issue or you not liking the product you get will either get a swap right then and there and you can check it before you walk out the store or get your money back right then and there boom done deal...
5-10 business days is the standard time limit for a card transaction refund to get processed through the provider, IIRC. You could well get the refund in less time.
You'll be very lucky if you do get it in 5-10 business days. When I ordered my first one, I got it for ATT by mistake and it took a month and a half to get my money back from Motorola. There are tons of stories on how bad their $$ department is. I just finally got mine from ATT and called it a day.
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Hi, I requested a refund for my Moto X and received a return label on the December 29, sent the phone by UPS and the received it on the December 30, it took until the January 9 for them just to process in the system so they can refund the money. I called customer service and they told me its going to take another 5-10 business days just to receive the refund. This is the worst customer service I have seen. Does anyone had good experience with them?
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Let me know how it goes for you! They received my Moto X December 15th and I still haven't been refunded. After talking to multiple people I have heard different stories. Someone said Moto Can't refund me since I didn't buy the phone from them (I did). Another said they refunded me already, supposedly before I even STARTED the process. Today a manager said that they already did everything on there end and it was Motorola credit who needs to refund me now, but after talking to them they said they haven't received the refund authorization from Motorola, and I should give it ANOTHER month...
I love Moto products, but I will never buy anything from the website again, its all local or Amazon for me now.
if you ship anything back to Motorola, you can hand it to a Fedex/kinko's employee to get a receipt with a tracking number. You'd be a fool not to do this. if i'd skipped that step i'd be screwed right now. Here's why:
i called motorola on the 2nd of january to ask if i could wait until my second replacement phone arrived (on the 3rd) to ship them both back at once. they said this would me fine and that i had nothing to worry about.
then i recieved this email on the 6th.
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Dear [removed by me],
Your malfunctioning phone still has not arrived at our Moto Care service center.Please use the pre-paid label that arrived with your replacement phone and ship back to us ASAP to avoid being charged for the replacement phone.This is the final reminder before you're charged the amount of the your security deposit + applicable taxes. If you're having trouble sendingyour phone, please contact us at (800) 734-5870 Monday- Friday from 7AM-10PM, Saturday- Sunday 9AM-6PM CT.
Serial Number: [removed by me]
Thank you,
Your Moto Care Team
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so i called, and in my case i had returned two phones, so i gave them two tracking numbers. the lady informed me that my phones were both received on the 5th and that the email was a mistake and i would not be charged.
-but then on the 11th, i received this:
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Dear [removed by me],
Hello. Since we did not receive your malfunctioning phone at our Moto Care service center within the allowable time period,You will see this charge on an upcoming credit card statement. Please do not attempt to return your malfunctioning phone at this time.If you have any questions please give us a call at 800-734-5870 Monday - Friday from 7AM-10PM, Saturday - Sunday 9AM-6PM CT.
Serial Number: [removed by me]
Thank you,
Your Moto Care Team
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there was no amount on the email, it just said i "will see this charge".
so angry, i called back to get an idiot that couldn't understand english, said "what" constantly and made me repeat everything to the point that the people around me could not stop laughing... so i hung up and called back. the second guy was much better. definately Indian, but that's fine as long as we can understand each other. he said Motorola had one of my two returned Moto x 2014's marked as a Moto G. He corrected that for me and then yesterday, the 12th, i received this email, twice:
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Dear [removed by me],
Good news! Your device has arrived safely and is in our hands. We hope you are enjoying your replacement device.
If you need any help or have questions, give us a call. We're standing by at 800-734-5870 Monday - Friday from 7AM-10PM, Saturday - Sunday 9AM-6PM CT.
Serial Number : [removed by me]
Motorola Tracking Number (RMA) : [removed by me]
Best Regards,
Your Moto Care Team
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my credit card statement is a weird mix of motorola charges and refunds right now.
01/13/2015 MOTOROLA MOBILITY LLC Merchandise -$696.88
01/13/2015 MOTOROLA MOBILITY LLC Merchandise $136.56
01/13/2015 MOTOROLA MOBILITY LLC Merchandise $136.56
01/12/2015 MOTOROLA MOBILITY LLC Merchandise $546.25
^all those show as pending, and I'm still waiting to see how this plays out. something will change. the way that reads i've only been charged $121 total for the two replacements.
without that tracking number though, i'd be in a world of hurt since they mislabeled my returned phone as a moto G.
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draco259 said:
They received my Moto X December 15th and I still haven't been refunded........after talking to them they said they haven't received the refund authorization from Motorola, and I should give it ANOTHER month...
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you definitely should not give it another month. at a minimum you should contact your credit card company and at least discuss this with them so there is a record of your problem. personally if i were waiting for a refund that long i would have my credit card company get my money back. last time i had a similar issue, it was with a bum seller on amazon, and i was told to wait to file a dispute. i don't like waiting for idiots, so i called Chase and got my money back in about 5 minutes.
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you definitely should not give it another month. at a minimum you should contact your credit card company and at least discuss this with them so there is a record of your problem. personally if i were waiting for a refund that long i would have my credit card company get my money back. last time i had a similar issue, it was with a bum seller on amazon, and i was told to wait to file a dispute. i don't like waiting for idiots, so i called Chase and got my money back in about 5 minutes.
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I would, but it is through their credit service, so they don't seem to crazy about doing anything on their end. As of now I have not made any payments on it though, and informed them that I wont, since I haven't had the phone in my hand since the first week of December. They now admit that they have the phone, but still wont tell me anything about the status of the return.
I returned my Moto X last week. Never got an e-mail saying that received it (they did though, per FedEX tracking). Hopefully this **** doesn't take forever. I plan on calling Monday and seeing whats what. Too bad I used their CC to purchase it, but I imagine the bank the card is issued through could help it things get out of hand (well, hopefully).
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I returned my Moto X last week. Never got an e-mail saying that received it (they did though, per FedEX tracking). Hopefully this **** doesn't take forever. I plan on calling Monday and seeing whats what. Too bad I used their CC to purchase it, but I imagine the bank the card is issued through could help it things get out of hand (well, hopefully).
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might be in for ride, I returned my Moto X 2014 back in Nov. and they received it on Nov. 26th and it took until Jan 4th to get my refund, it was a total cluster F***
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might be in for ride, I returned my Moto X 2014 back in Nov. and they received it on Nov. 26th and it took until Jan 4th to get my refund, it was a total cluster F***
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The lady on the phone when I did the RMA said it could take 3-4 weeks. I talked to an agent online and they said it was already processed. Buuuut no refund has been posted. So, who knows. Its hard to believe their CS is this terrible/slow.
I think people can be passive in till it happens to them then let the flames post fly!
For me to be able to order a great phone, design it on Moto Maker, wait with excitement and in a week have a great phone and a pretty amazing customer experience!
But for me I was sent 2 phone instead of one so I had to return one and then I had a screen glass break a few weeks later and they made a new Moto X then I had to return the broken one. Both returns just as bad as the other.
What is frustrating is you dealing with a state of the art process on the design, build and buy process. But the return, customer support return process is a mess.
3rd party out of country call centers make the returns a train wreck, agents have zero common sense, lack the ability of problem solving and just have no real thought process.
When I get to other departments in US I am treated OK and follow up is good.
Motorola cant learn from Amazon! Had a return and Amazon had a UPS driver to my house next day with a return label ready, advance the credit before they even got the item back and follow up one they have the item.
Take care of your customers and the customers stay loyal to the brand.
That is why Amazon is Amazon.
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3rd party out of country call centers make the returns a train wreck, agents have zero common sense, lack the ability of problem solving and just have no real thought process.
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This is so true. I had to do an exchange of a device I purchased with a Cyber Monday code due to a leather back adhesive issue. First the Indian rep told me the return policy was 14 business days, which of course it is not. Then she insisted there was no way to do an exchange for the same price since the code had expired. I pointed out on their website they have the instructions for a secured exchange but she said it would not work because of the code.
So I asked for someone in the US and was transferred. Of course they could do the exchange at the Cyber Monday price.
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When I get to other departments in US I am treated OK and follow up is good.
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Yeah, you have to ask to be transferred to the US reps.
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So I asked for someone in the US and was transferred. Of course they could do the exchange at the Cyber Monday price.
Yeah, you have to ask to be transferred to the US reps.
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i did not know we could ask to be transferred. my god dealing with overseas reps is a nightmare.
if its not on the script that they read they do not know what to do.
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i did not know we could ask to be transferred. my god dealing with overseas reps is a nightmare.
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Ask if you can speak to someone in a higher level of customer care - they transfer you to the US.
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Ask if you can speak to someone in a higher level of customer care - they transfer you to the US.
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my 85th call to customer care just was answered by a white lady in wisconsin. she was very nice and easy to deal with.
but back to reality.. i can't even begin to explain how much i hate calling these people. now that i've finally been emailed that i'll be credited, it's for the wrong amount.
they say 3-5 days to get my money back, now 7 days later, they send me this:
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Hello Robert
Thank you for contact Motorola in regards to your refund for in the amount of 409.69 We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.
Your case has been submitted to our financial department. As soon as we have a resolution we will contact you with a confirmation email.
Should you have any questions or need any further assistance, please reply to this email or call us at 800-734-5870 . If calling please mention your incident number.
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that WOULD be great, but they dont need to refund me $409. they owe me $546. not to mention that's 546 i just paid interest on because my credit card statement was issued on the 28th. and i've been arguing about this since december now.
i'm like the easiest going happy go lucky care free person you'll ever meet, unless you're like these mototards. next time i break a phone i'm buying a screen online and fixing it myself. i don't even care if it costs more than having them fix it. it'll be faster and far less effort than dealing with these people.
i would advise anyone with a broken screen to send their phone in and wait instead of doing the "advanced replacement option" -they suck. there's just too many people involved in too many different countries to make it a smooth and painless process.
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i would advise anyone with a broken screen to send their phone in and wait instead of doing the "advanced replacement option" -they suck. there's just too many people involved in too many different countries to make it a smooth and painless process.
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My experience was just the opposite of yours. I mailed back my Moto X 2014 with the messed up leather back on day 10 and by day 15 I received a credit.
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My experience was just the opposite of yours. I mailed back my Moto X 2014 with the messed up leather back on day 10 and by day 15 I received a credit.
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well I must admit, i'm a bit jealous.
i received this email today, and now i dont know if im getting the $406, or the $136, or hopefully both, as that's the amount they owe me. if they can't figure it out by friday i'm just calling capital one to get my money refunded. i LOVE the phone, but definitely not the customer service. i've wasted hours on a simple credit that was supposed to happen automatically.
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Hello Robert
Thank you for contact Motorola in regards to your refund for in the amount of 136.56 We apologize for any inconvenience this has caused.
Your case has been submitted to our financial department. As soon as we have a resolution we will contact you with a confirmation email.
Should you have any questions or need any further assistance, please reply to this email or call us at 800-734-5870 . If calling please mention your incident number.
Thank you for contacting Motorola and have a wonderful day!
Sincerely,
xxxxx
Order Administration Liaison
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-which was their response to my telling them that the refund amount they listed is wrong in my message below
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Customer By Email (Robert xxxxxxx) 01/31/2015 05:26 PM
Hello xxxx.
I’ve already been charged 136.56 twice, which is correct since I have returned two broken phones.
The other charge of $546.25 is what the refund amount should be. $546.25, not $409.69.
If you only refund the 409, that would mean I paid the 136.56 three times instead of twice.
I have included a screenshot of my capital one statement so you can see the three charges that have posted to my credit card account.
please let me know if you need any additional
information from me.
sincerely,
robert xxxxxxx
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i took it up with my credit card company now. it's been over a month and a half trying to deal with motorola. my credit card company thanked me for my detailed record keeping and i got my refund instantly. i kinda feel like a **** because i REALLY LIKE motorola, but in the end it's my money they're playing games with. i'm nice, but im not a fool. i'm not going to pay interest on $546 two months in a row. they also refunded the $19 interest charge.
again this all started because they mistakingly marked my returned bamboo moto x as a moto g. ever since i been getting passed around from department to department.
https://goo.gl/if4QOx
Amazon is apparently offering customers who bought Note7 accessories a full refund even if they’re outside the normal 30-day return window.
Someone was asking about this. FYI
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I just got my UAG CASE refunded from amazon. In was past my 30 day return period.
Just says mine is outside the return window not eligible for return
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Just says mine is outside the return window not eligible for return
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You have to call them
Ah thanks I will be giving them a call
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Amazon may, but I'm unsure if third party sellers on Amazon will do it too, which is where all my cases come from. Upon filling in the form, it says it needs to get approval from the seller. I could call Amazon, but they wont be able to dictate what third party sellers have to do when it's outside the window.
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Amazon may, but I'm unsure if third party sellers on Amazon will do it too, which is where all my cases come from. Upon filling in the form, it says it needs to get approval from the seller. I could call Amazon, but they wont be able to dictate what third party sellers have to do when it's outside the window.
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Third parties won't. I just tried and all sellers are refusing.
Also, in related information, if you bought any Spigen accessories directly through their site, they aren't taking them back either. I contacted them Wednesday and they refused. They gave a useless 20% off one item coupon though. Because, you know, I want to spend MORE money on all this mess.
I'm now contacting Samsung directly because at this point, I feel it's all their fault. I would never have bought accessories if I had known this would happen. Now, if I were returning the phone because I didn't like it or something like that (a voluntary return/exchange that was MY decision), then I'd take the hit. I mean, I can't even sell these cases now!
(I have 5 cases. I bought a few in order to swap them out or to have spares.)
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I'm now contacting Samsung directly because at this point, I feel it's all their fault. I would never have bought accessories if I had known this would happen. Now, if I were returning the phone because I didn't like it or something like that (a voluntary return/exchange that was MY decision), then I'd take the hit. I mean, I can't even sell these cases now!
(I have 5 cases. I bought a few in order to swap them out or to have spares.)
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Let us know how it goes. I have 7 cases (me and my wife together, but same situation, we like to swap them out) from various sellers and would like to have at least part of it back.
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Let us know how it goes. I have 7 cases (me and my wife together, but same situation, we like to swap them out) from various sellers and would like to have at least part of it back.
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Yeah, sure. I'll keep you all updated.
Not to be negative, but I feel like it's a long shot though.
No reply as of yet. Maybe by Monday.
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Yeah, sure. I'll keep you all updated.
Not to be negative, but I feel like it's a long shot though.
No reply as of yet. Maybe by Monday.
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OK, well, I got an update. Samsung is refusing responsibility for 3rd party accessories, so I am now about $200 in the hole.
All I can say is that I REALLY hope a class action lawsuit comes out, because I'll be jumping on it like crazy in order to try and recover at least SOME of my loss. I was also considering getting a Note8 (or whatever it'll be called), but now, it has to not only be a good phone, but will need to brush my teeth, brush my hair, and wipe my butt in order to make me consider it. It's a shame because I loved the Note7, but they shouldn't be screwing their customers over like this, ESPECIALLY since it's their fault.
I'm going to try one last time with the phone number provided in the email, but from what it sounds like, this will do nothing.
Message from Samsung:
Thank you for taking the time to contact us at Samsung Technical Support. We always appreciate hearing from our customers.
After reviewing your e-mail, I understand that you have purchased most of the accessories related to Note 7 and I see that you want the refund for them, I will help you with the required information.
I regret your inconvenience regarding this, the most disheartening is one of our loyal customer going through this type of ordeal experience.
I see that you have purchased the accessories from the third party seller, we don't know the information about them, I would like to inform you that you will get the refund when you purchase from the Samsung or with the respective carrier.
For the inconvenience with the exchange that you are all going through, we are offering all the customer's with incentives.
As a sign of our appreciation for your patience and loyalty, we are offering up to a $100 bill credit from select carrier or retail outlets if you exchange your Galaxy Note7 for another Samsung smartphone, less any incentive credits already received.
If you already exchanged your Galaxy Note7 device for another Samsung smart phone, you will receive up to a $75 bill credit from select carrier or retail outlets in addition to the $25 you previously received.
If you choose to obtain a refund, you will receive up to a $25 bill credit from select carrier or retail outlets as a token of our appreciation and acknowledgement of your inconvenience, less any incentive credits already received.
I will help you with the link where you can refer the updated information of the Note 7.
http://www.samsung.com/us/note7recall/
I would like to inform you that your email has reached Samsung technical support department were we deal in troubleshooting with mobile devices and tablets. However, we do have a dedicated support team who will help you in this regard.
I understand how troublesome it could be, Please contact appropriate team with the contact number(1-844-365-6197 ). They will help you with the options possible.
I hope the above information is helpful. Please write back to us if you have any quires. We will be happy to help you.
Should you desire additional assistance, we invite you to access the web-link http://www.samsung.com/us/support/contact to speak to a Chat Specialist. Our technicians are more than happy to assist you further. Chat Support is available 24X7.
For additional support and updates regarding your product, please follow us at @SamsungSupport on Twitter or like our page at https://www.facebook.com/samsungsupport.
Thank you for choosing Samsung products.
Sincerely,
Sravanthi.K
Another Update:
I called the number given in the email and ended up coming out of the call with even more frustration, but also some potentially good news, though we should all take it with a grain of salt.
First, I called the number and the girl on the other line said I need to power down my Note7. I told her that I can't because it's my ONLY phone (I don't even have a landline), and I have to wait until I can buy a replacement. She just said, "I understand, but because your safety is our concern... [blah blah blah]... you need to power down your phone."
So I repeated that this was my only phone and that I don't have a spare. Again, she repeated the "safety is our concern" line. So I added, "Ma'am, if I power down my phone, then that would mean that I will be without a phone completely until I can get a replacement. That means that if I have to call 911 in the case that I have an emergency, then I won't be able to do so, and I could potentially DIE."
This time she hesitated... then repeated the same line again. It sounded like she was reading a script too (which she most likely was, unfortunately).
Finally, I just said, "Well, I'm not powering down my phone until I can buy the LG V20."
She stopped LOL
So then she transferred me to another phone number, but was kind enough to give me the number in case I got disconnected. So she transferred me and I waited. And waited. And waited. After 1 hour and 10 minutes on hold, I just hung up and tried calling again. All I got was a message saying that the phone was not available and to try again later.
At this point, I'm obviously frustrated, so I call the first number again and this is where the good news with a grain of salt comes in. The lady said that there will be an addition to the Note7 recall, which will state what to do about accessories (though she didn't confirm whether it was for accessories bought through third parties). She could not give me a 'when' this would happen though. I tried pressing more details from her by trying to get a time frame for this addition (ex: within the next 1-2 months), but she would not give me anything, meaning that she really didn't know, or that she wasn't supposed to say.
So, at this point, I'm just going to wait until either a class-action lawsuit occurs, or this addition to the Note7 recall policy becomes live. I'm obviously not happy at the moment because as of right now, I'm still at a loss until something else happens, which is still only a possibility rather than a certainty.
EDIT: Oh, and II only say to take that info with a grain of salt only because it isn't 100% confirmed at the moment. I would definitely expect Samsung to do that addition to the recall because that will help them avoid a class-action lawsuit. It's just that if they do do something, they need to do something reasonable... not something like offer only 20% of each accessory's cost. I mean, at the moment, this $25 credit whether you keep using a Samsung device or go to another brand is bull. That's lunch money and doesn't cover all the time wasted on this mess (IMO).
Well seems I was partially lucky with Amazon's third party sellers, but I am unsure if that is because the items they allow me to trade are 1, still within the normal return window, 2, are OEM covers, or 3, they just have great customer service. The other ones (Spigen and VRS Design) were out of the window so I just let them be.. They may have allowed me to return them, but chances are slim.. I know I wouldn't if I was a seller.
i was able to return all of the items i bought for note 7. I had to do a chat and she gave me the link for my return label. 2 case and 1 usb c cable.
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i was able to return all of the items i bought for note 7. I had to do a chat and she gave me the link for my return label. 2 case and 1 usb c cable.
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The usb c cable would have been good to keep as in all phones will probably have it in the future. Thats the only thing im keeping
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