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Will android have cool games too?

Software houses are developing great games for iPhone 4 (look at RAGE) and WP7...
why google isn't doing anything to attract software houses???
I don't want to trade my nexus for a iPhone 4 or a WP7 but I think i will, because it seems it will never have such cool games (also due to its crappy multitouch)...
I like playing some games while on travel or before sleep..
I thought this "superphone" would have last me 2 years, but it's already old
Anyone having news/rumors on android gaming side? especially N1's side...

3.0 will help, and the next iteration of snapdragons will SERIOUSLY boost the ability of android to compete [unfortunately the 1GHz snapdragons are paired with a rather old gpu]. The 1.5 dual core scheduled for early adoption at christmas will bring 3x the CPU horsepower and 3x the GPU horsepower, SIGNIFICANTLY above the iphone.

ok, but i think that android should standardize hardware to attract software houses, it's like creating games for PC vs games for consoles, the can squeeze the power out of consoles because of their standard hardware, instead they need much more power to run same games on pc due to they different hardwares
EDIT: will it bring 3x ***** also??

There will be no standardized hardware. Just like in PCs. And just like in PCs, there will be games.

normally standardization does not work with open source/open licensing

rumor

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yeah, i saw this rumor around but i dont remember him mentioning android at all in his demo. Also, he forgot to mention that your battery will implode in 10seconds. lol

Here is a game that came out recently Galcon

How about my phone plays psx, gameboy, snes.... Games?
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Yep but most of those games aren't playable because of keys combos that can't be done on our crappy multitouch...
However i was thinking about next gen games
Those rumors are interesting, if true

iOS have more and better games because it's easier to make games for two or three hardware setups, and also because the market is larger (I may be wrong here). The latest sales numbers show that Android kicks total ass at least in the US and is now the number one smart phone platform. That will most probably get more developers interested and we will se some more good games for Android too. It may take a while though, and we may have to wait for newer hardware revisions and Android 3 + as mentioned earlier up here.

Unfortunately all the latest Android devices were released without true multitouch and/or relatively weak GPU's (like graphics card).. Evo, Desire, Incredible, Nexus One etc. are all considered top end devices however none of them have a powerful GPU and some such as Nexus & Desire don't have proper multi touch. I think the release of all these phones definetly shot Android forward in the market and is still doing so now however we're still waiting on the next Android wave to come through bring full multitouch and fast GPU's and then I believe gaming will really take off.
On a side note Galaxy S series phones all have full multitouch & the fastest GPU in anyphone at the moment, more than 3x faster than the one in the iPhone.

Well I play more games on my nexus then I did on my iphone so w.e gran turismo, driver, mario, and a handful of game boy games.
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http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/
Cool Story, bro.

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http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/
Cool Story, bro.
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saw that a week ago...
on one side it's cool so that many games will be developed on 1ghz snapdragon platform and hopefully our nexus will see that games...but on the other side it's an old platform, honestly i think they should focus on the next generation processors to destroy iphone and bring an uber cool device

There are some really good android games. to name a few. Nova, Hawx, Asphalt5, Needforspeed shift, Hero of sparta, Modern combat, homerun battle, crusade of destiny, Super KO, Speed forge, Raging thunder, Heavy Gunner, Wave blazer, toon warz etc.
I have a n1 and a Vibrant, and let me tell you the vibrant blows the n1 out the water in real world gaming (not just benchmark crap). Games are way smoother on the Vibrant. The n1s Poor fake MT was the reason I got a vibrant, I wanna play some cool games and on the n1 with the crossing axis problem that was next to impossible...
The vibrants MT is flawless. Absolutely great, that mixed with a great GPU I say bring on the good games... Were ready.

Evo as gaming device

I was curious as to how many are using their Evo as a gaming device as well as its other uses. I started off playing some of the simple arcade and puzzle style games but I have recently been playing a couple of fps games from gameloft and I realize that there is a lot of potential for the evo if the developers will continue with it.

I'm playing home run battle 3d and a couple of other games.
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Yeah I have been playing quite a bit of old NES games with nesoid.

CM6 + wiimote + wii steering wheel + gps dash mount + dremel + gorilla glue = emulator fun. I have been mostly playing old SNES games, but I have a 40 minute bus ride to & from work so I have to kill the time somehow.

Until I saw the demo for NOVA and Sandstorm I never realized that 3d gaming had come so far for android. Those are the 2 main games that I am playing right now.

It's perfect for RPG's which is my favorite type of games. Play final fantasy tactics as we speak. I never owned a ps1 myself so theres a lot of rpg games for me to play.

Am I the only who likes Meteor Blitz? It's just about my favorite handheld game of all time! Like a Geometry Wars mobile.
PSXDroid is pretty nice. I continually encounter graphical glitches though, which is utterly annoying.
SandStorm is neat, Nova is a fun FPS as well. Pretty much most of Gamelofts releases are enjoyable. Well, minus Assassin's Creed.
There's a guy working on Starcraft for Android, but I think the projects gone dead in the water.
Finally, Quake III on Android. Or, Kwaak3
Also, this may not be the best place to post anything about iOS, because I know quick people can be to hate on the iPhone. But Steve Jobs aside, who else is impressed by Epic Game's Infinity Blade and Mutant Bash TV by Id running on the Rage iOS engine?
I'm totally floored by it to be honest. Had no idea a 1GHz processor with 512MB RAM could achieve graphics on this level.
It's only a matter of time before a company creates an engine like this for Android Devices. Development is either already in the works or right around the corner.
*Cough* PSP Phone *Cough*
The prospects are incredible! The only thing that bugs me is that I use to play my old GameBoys till the battery died when I was out and about. It will just really suck if I do the same with my EVO. That would put my day dead in the water if I didn't have a back up battery or wall outlet near by....

I am waiting patiently for oooecao to release their games!
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ElAguila said:
Until I saw the demo for NOVA and Sandstorm I never realized that 3d gaming had come so far for android. Those are the 2 main games that I am playing right now.
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I second that, I'm playing nova as well and it runs smooth with no hiccups.

ElAguila said:
I am waiting patiently for oooecao to release their games!
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Elaborate,
Google search = Nothing
I'm curious.

OMGWTF_BBQ said:
Am I the only who likes Meteor Blitz? It's just about my favorite handheld game of all time! Like a Geometry Wars mobile.
PSXDroid is pretty nice. I continually encounter graphical glitches though, which is utterly annoying.
SandStorm is neat, Nova is a fun FPS as well. Pretty much most of Gamelofts releases are enjoyable. Well, minus Assassin's Creed.
There's a guy working on Starcraft for Android, but I think the projects gone dead in the water.
Finally, Quake III on Android. Or, Kwaak3
Also, this may not be the best place to post anything about iOS, because I know quick people can be to hate on the iPhone. But Steve Jobs aside, who else is impressed by Epic Game's Infinity Blade and Mutant Bash TV by Id running on the Rage iOS engine?
I'm totally floored by it to be honest. Had no idea a 1GHz processor with 512MB RAM could achieve graphics on this level.
It's only a matter of time before a company creates an engine like this for Android Devices. Development is either already in the works or right around the corner.
*Cough* PSP Phone *Cough*
The prospects are incredible! The only thing that bugs me is that I use to play my old GameBoys till the battery died when I was out and about. It will just really suck if I do the same with my EVO. That would put my day dead in the water if I didn't have a back up battery or wall outlet near by....
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Those iOS games are insane, I can't wait till we have them on Android. Epic has already demoed their Unreal Engine on Android so we will definitely have some sick games coming soon.
BTW, what ROM/theme are you running in the pic in your sig?

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Those iOS games are insane, I can't wait till we have them on Android. Epic has already demoed their Unreal Engine on Android so we will definitely have some sick games coming soon.
BTW, what ROM/theme are you running in the pic in your sig?
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I know, they just need to come out with a decent controller for handheld devices. I almost want to go out and pick up a WiiMote just for my EVO. I have a PS3 controller but I've read that it will probably never happen because of technicalities with bluetooth between the two. I use my PS3 Controller to play Halo on my Netbook, so much fun! Makes airplane flights a breeze.
Just put a vice grip on a pad with a few buttons and put on a MicroUSB connector with an input on the pad for charging and call it done.
I keep reading about people whom have tested some of these Rage iOS games complaining that the controls blow. Especially Mutant Bash TV, it's tilt shift. I mean REALLY!? I tend to get p'd off at DoodleJump, let alone an FPS.
Stock ROM, unREVOked. Theme is custom.

Better off with a epic, you got the keyboard for controls and better GPU.
which is my problem... I don't use my phone for gaming, so it has no use for me lol

razorseal said:
Better off with a epic, you got the keyboard for controls and better GPU.
which is my problem... I don't use my phone for gaming, so it has no use for me lol
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Lol, 4 of my friends recently jumped on to the Epic from TP2's (we all get the same phones, its kinda wierd) But i have an Evo. I play games on mine and its pretty good, but i tell them that games play better on the Epic due to the GPU/CPU and none of them play games, haha.

I got the usual great android games on plus, snesoid,nesoid,gensoid, psx4droid. The emulators are much better when rooted with a kernel that allows for better multi touch,(I'm currently on kings bfs11). I have hundreds games just between the emulators. I would consider psx4droid unplayable unless u had such a kernel. The biggest problem with playing the games is the lack of better multi touch, and thats y I will never b unrooted again.
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they need to change up the controllers. Instead of using the forward, back, left, right motions on the screen, use the gyroscope to do those, and then in the left hand have the movement of the gun, and in the right hand, have the shooting or w/e.

Has anyone here tried Heavy Gunner?
I've been on a real gaming spree ever since I got the Evo!
Super K.O Boxing is really nice
SpeedX 3D is my favorite!
N.O.V.A was a b*t*h to get working, but it's by far the most graphically intense game.
Caligo Chaser is alright if you like more cartoony RPGs. The best part of the game is that when you adjust your gear it visually reflects on the character, lots of choices too!
Fruit Ninja is a fun, friendly style, potentially competitive style game
I just tried Meteor Blitz, thanks for the recommendation! I do wish the movement controls were less sensitive however.
Android is a fantastic platform for gaming, unfortunately it's not the only one and developers are limited

I tried a couple of the emulators but the game rom's I downloaded showed the game on a tiny screen and the controls did not work well at all. I guess I need to try some different games roms. Sandstorm is as graphically intensive as NOVA if not more so. I tried Avatar but the gameplay was a little confusing for me at times. Bottom line is that android is a great gaming platform and the Evo is a good hard device for gaming. I have a kindle and a zuneHD and was getting ready to get a psp. Now the Evo is truly an all in one device for me. It will do what all of those will do. Sure it uses a lot of battery but I would rather switch batteries during the day than to cary 3 or 4 devices and chargers when I travel.

MMORPG: Pocket Legends. That thang was just released today.

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so why is it so hard to get Need for speed shift? why not in the market? why are there no good games in the market? on my old iphone i played many awesome games like nfsshift, street fighter 4, fifa soccer, chaos rings most of all Grand theft Auto chinatown wars. when i look in the market, there a bunch of crappy games, i mean common no words with friends or scrabble or bejeweled? my opinion, get a 64 gb ipod touch, you get your games and great music integration with itunes, plus 32gb extra possible storage. and its thin. i love my evo but no-matter what mods i do to it its not good at graphic intensive stuff, i cant even run the ocean waves wallpaper without it choppin like Jackie chan.
p.s. also looked for pocket legends, nothing in market for that either

Games on the DHD

I am a recentish owner of the Desire HD. I'm loving it. I flashed a custom rom on it and I love it more. I am well aware of the horsepower in this baby and that iphone 4 is nothing compared to it... My question is this: Why do major game developers avoid android, and go for the iphone throwing out all sorts of super games that would work even better on the DHD (and please avoid the financial part, i'm well aware apple brainwashed many into buying iphone 4).
I had to post this topic because I feel a bit frustrated seeing gameloft develop nova 2, dungeon hunter 2, etc. for iphone and android gets Shrek Kart 3d... REALLY? Ea games barely developed 2-3 games and popcap is in the same boat but with 0 games. (with a near-future release of games).

There are quite a few HD Gameloft games that work just fine. Just not the newest ones that you mentioned (DH2, Nova2 etc) because they just came out for iphone and are probably not ported yet. I'm pretty sure though that they will come out eventually.
Check out their homepage, you can buy all the games directly there. All the good ones are available for android but not all of them are in the market. At least where i live (europe).
Keep in mind that the DHD is half a year old and one of the first really powerful (gaming wise) android devices. So i think in the future lots of good games will come out once the hardware is reasonably spread.
[e] I just read a news that gameloft is working toghether with Qualcomm now (who made the chips for the DHD).

Yes, i know about the android games and where I can buy them from, the thing that bothers me is that games for android are "ported' and not built. It's really demeaning, plus it loses a bit of quality imho

wid0w said:
Yes, i know about the android games and where I can buy them from, the thing that bothers me is that games for android are "ported' and not built. It's really demeaning, plus it loses a bit of quality imho
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The reason is simple:
1. As powerful as the DHD is, the current generation of adreno, lacks in comparison to powervr in the iphone 4, it can shift nearly twice the polygons adreno can.
2. IOS only uses one CPU chipset, there. Are now 2 diffent types used in android (arm & omap) each of these chipsets use diffrent types of textures in 3D games, meaning for android, devs have to write the game twice.....
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I've always been frustrated with gaming on Android. Even since Android 1.5 people have been saying "give it a little while and Android will be equal in terms of gaming" but it still hasn't happened. Not that long I know, but I honestly find it hard to believe it ever will in the gaming area.

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I've always been frustrated with gaming on Android. Even since Android 1.5 people have been saying "give it a little while and Android will be equal in terms of gaming" but it still hasn't happened. Not that long I know, but I honestly find it hard to believe it ever will in the gaming area.
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Now the Tegra II chipset is out, your going to see a massive jump in android gaming, plus android is the only mobile platform with a fully functional N64 emulator, and theres rumors the makers of NullDC are working on a dreamcast emulator for android
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Gaming has improved and quite a lot. Have you tried Gunbros, Fruit Ninja, Dungeon Defender, Mega Jump, Rocket Bunnies, Angry birds, Reckless racing.
And the futur is looking brighter with the Unity engin (IOS most famous game engine) being ported to android.

Well, indeed the processor architectures differ in android. But major game developers hsouldnt have an issue with building two games, they have enough people. ALso are the games so easily built on the iphone? because android is always the last platform that something gets released on...

Apple Games vs. Android Games???

Does anyone notice well im sure you notice but why are Apple Games sooooo much better than Android games i mean seriously its ridiculous. They look better, perform better just an overall better gaming device. Im not willing to leave my Evo or better yet Android fir this it just bothers me and im curious.....

Because they are realizing all that device is good for is games and iTunes.
/sarcasm.... Sort of
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Well yeah they are better but they hard to play sometimes cause of the Damn screen is too small(iPhone user as well) plus there are some expensive as games in Ios, another reason y is because is easier to develop for on device only , same specs as well, Android got all sort of devices and they usually lag in feature/Android phones the EVO might capable of but no al devices will, that's why epic games might not make Android games right now but probably in the future , there are some decent games on Android now tho, the we didn't have before , hopefully developers start deveploping more games for Android tho
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The Apple Apps in general just blow the Android Apps away IMO. I love android, but, they are seriously behind. I never even open my market anymore because it's full of junk.
That said, I agree with the guy above me. One major reason is it is much easier to develop for IOS and one set of hardware than it is with Android. Some of the Android phones are serious garbage (I'm looking at you Samsung Acclaim!) and should never have been released.

Is it bad I wifi tether my Evo to play games on my Ipod, i.e. Words with Friends? I've played it on my Evo, and it's not as smooth. Yes, I'm one of those people that carry 2 devices. I'm not willing to sacrifice a fully customizable OS for a generic one. I give it to Apple for having some good games. BTW has anyone tried Towerbloxx for android? It's like comparing Atari to PS3. Android got the raw end on that deal, as well as many other ports.

I agree its the same reason Google had to wait to include hardware acceleration because not all phones are capable of it...with the next update hopefully this summer we should see much better phones (the evo is already better then any iPhone ) as well as a better environment for app developers and users..
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Is it bad I wifi tether my Evo to play games on my Ipod, i.e. Words with Friends? I've played it on my Evo, and it's not as smooth. Yes, I'm one of those people that carry 2 devices. I'm not willing to sacrifice a fully customizable OS for a generic one. I give it to Apple for having some good games. BTW has anyone tried Towerbloxx for android? It's like comparing Atari to PS3. Android got the raw end on that deal, as well as many other ports.
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I too, always have my Ipod touch to tether to the EVO.
Also something i noticed while playing games on both the Glass itsself feels different. Ipod has a feel i like and the EVO's screen i cant feel it as much. And that little difference to me helps to control games better on the ipod.

How important are games?
I use my phone for business and pleasure, but I don't really play games.
I have a top-of-the-line pc for games, at home...

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I too, always have my Ipod touch to tether to the EVO.
Also something i noticed while playing games on both the Glass itsself feels different. Ipod has a feel i like and the EVO's screen i cant feel it as much. And that little difference to me helps to control games better on the ipod.
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I prefer the feel of my Evo's glass to that of my iPod.
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How about N64oid and Tiger GBA? You don't even have to root to use emulators on Android but you have to jailbreak and jump through other various hoops to emulate on iOS. My favorite game on my phone is Mario 64.
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How important are games?
I use my phone for business and pleasure, but I don't really play games.
I have a top-of-the-line pc for games, at home...
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Games are important enough that the android market is split into 2 sections......apps and GAMES....
Apparently they can be a good source of income for developers, and a great way to pass time....
I use my phone for business and pleasure as well....but I also have a top of the line phone with a huge screen for games and movies.
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I have played the Angry Birds games, but I don't even have them installed anymore. The only game on my EVO right now is Wordfeud (addicted!).
I'm impatiently awaiting: http://www.androidcentral.com/sneak-peek-cut-rope-android

IOS has some pretty dope ass games but i just hate carrying it around all the time so i just stick to my evo but i do wish some of the games on apple would be on android i mean it took months for tap tap 4 to come to android and thats like the only game i really really wanted on the android thats on apples line of games...IOS games are fun but the iPhone is WAY too mainstream for me the evo is a mainstream device but its less mainstream than the iphone so im good haha

Because iOS has real-time low-latency audio (sub 1ms). Android does not.
This is why you see virtual pianos, keyboards, synthesizers, multitrack recording studios, and other music production software only on iOS.

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How about N64oid and Tiger GBA? You don't even have to root to use emulators on Android but you have to jailbreak and jump through other various hoops to emulate on iOS. My favorite game on my phone is Mario 64.
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how well does the N64oid run? i know the GBA, NES, and PSX emulators run pretty smooth

For gaming, android cannot hold a candle to IOS games. I've had iphones before and now the Evo, and while the Evo is a very nice phone, it just can't compete app wise. The market really is a joke, way too much crap on there. Google just needs to enable hardware acceleration, my iphone 2g had that 4 years ago.

Hell the only games I play are Angry Birds, Brick Breaker (not as good at blackberry's but it's still fun), Tetris, Live Holdem Pro, MX Moto and emulator's (mostly gameboid) and my evo does perfectly fine never lags, I played Gun bro's and it didn't lag at all, I don't know why it's such a big deal, I'd rather play graphic intensive games on either the 55" or 40" not a 4.3 lol.
And even on trips when I'm not driving I just bring my laptop or play games like above, I don't see why gaming on a phone is soo important, hell I was stoked back in the day with Snake on all my Nokia's and Brick Breaker on my Blackberry's so games def. don't make my decision weather or not to buy a certain phone.

Can somebody please explain what you guys are talking about?
We have 3 versions of angry birds all of which are free on android yet you have to pay for on ios. We have speedx3d, haypi kingom, mini squadron, gun bros, pew pew, a handful of excellent poker apps, alchemy, robo defense, fruit ninja, Game Dev story... and the list goes on and on and on.
Sure we don't have as many polished games as ios but you have to take in to account how long ios has been out compared to android...Nonetheless we have more than enough games to satisfy just about most peoples preferences and if you're not happy now then you will never be happy with what android has to offer.

Sure we don't have as many polished games as ios but you have to take in to account how long ios has been out compared to android...Nonetheless we have more than enough games to satisfy just about most peoples preferences and if you're not happy now then you will never be happy with what android has to offer.[/QUOTE]
That's not true at all a lot of people are more than happy whit whut Android offers...its just the games needs an upgrade...and all of em need SD card options
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ipod touch games are tailored specifically for the apple hardware and ios. it's like comparing console games to pc games. console games (95% of the time) run smoother on consoles because they're made specifically for consoles and created to take advantage of everything the console has to offer. pc games have to run on a plethora of different hardware and software platforms.

Just how many more Cores??

I simply would like to know just how many more cores do Android phones require to render basic games smoothly without lag?
It seems on paper, these devices will have enough power to virtually take off! yet my HTC One cannot handle a game like Cordy 2 or Granny Smith without stutter and lag.

I would put it down to the immense fragmentation of the android eco system which makes it nearly impossible to optimise for every device that may be running the app in question. I'm sure many developers will optimise for the One eventually...

well i can play cordy 2 and real racing in power save mode (reduced cpu) with no lag or stutter at all....

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I simply would like to know just how many more cores do Android phones require to render basic games smoothly without lag?
It seems on paper, these devices will have enough power to virtually take off! yet my HTC One cannot handle a game like Cordy 2 or Granny Smith without stutter and lag.
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I've played Temple Run 2, Real Racing 3, Need for speed, Asphalt 7 and they're all running fine? Plus I've heard Game-loft are updating their apps so it runs better than good on the new Snapdragon 600 processor

I am sorry, but unless each device is made slightly different, then there is no way those games run 100% lag free...as this is not just an issue with HTC One, Its the same with my friends Xperia Z....simple games are simply not smooth.
It seems the higher the spec on theses phones, the more lag there is on simple games.

You ask a question then disagree with everyone who answered, why ask?
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Haha. You really shouldn't blame Android...too much. Games with ****ty support run ****ty no matter what. Words with Friends is still crap on my iPad. And Zynga decided to break Scramble as well with their new update. Android makes it harder for even well supported games to work flawlessly. All the multitasking and stuff. It's like when your instant messenger freezes a game of Crysis on a $2000 computer? Yeah, that's what you get for picking the platform that can do more stuff at one time and is more "open". Like a swiss army knife to cut your filet mignon instead of a dedicated steak knife. If you don't need the extra functionality of Android, why not switch to the iPhone?

You ask a question then disagree with everyone who answered, why ask?
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I was hoping to a technical explanation to what is clearly a problem with most high end Android devices, and I would hardly classify replies by two individuals as "everyone"...anyway not sure what rattled your cage.

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Haha. You really shouldn't blame Android...too much. Games with ****ty support run ****ty no matter what. Words with Friends is still crap on my iPad. And Zynga decided to break Scramble as well with their new update. Android makes it harder for even well supported games to work flawlessly. All the multitasking and stuff. It's like when your instant messenger freezes a game of Crysis on a $2000 computer? Yeah, that's what you get for picking the platform that can do more stuff at one time and is more "open". Like a swiss army knife to cut your filet mignon instead of a dedicated steak knife. If you don't need the extra functionality of Android, why not switch to the iPhone?
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True, I have an Iphone as my other device, I was just hoping there would be a bit more power to such a top specced Android phone than just for benchmarking and how fast you can open, close and swipe between home screens.

Its not the device but the apps/games. Then again you cannot blame the app devs because android ecosystem is just enormous and you cannot really compare with ios with handful of models and most importantly only one manufacturer.

Don't say your phone can't handle a game because it can, use a heavily developed game that has a lot of attention payed to it. Big difference between a game like that compared to a small under developed game.
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Don't feed the troll...

Seriously? There are two huge threads almost exclusively talking about gaming on this phone right in the one general forum. Do a little footwork.
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Heh, troll thread. Recommend everyone just report this thread to the mods. It's blatantly obvious the OP is trolling, don't feed this little critter.