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Apple Games vs. Android Games???

Does anyone notice well im sure you notice but why are Apple Games sooooo much better than Android games i mean seriously its ridiculous. They look better, perform better just an overall better gaming device. Im not willing to leave my Evo or better yet Android fir this it just bothers me and im curious.....

Because they are realizing all that device is good for is games and iTunes.
/sarcasm.... Sort of
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Well yeah they are better but they hard to play sometimes cause of the Damn screen is too small(iPhone user as well) plus there are some expensive as games in Ios, another reason y is because is easier to develop for on device only , same specs as well, Android got all sort of devices and they usually lag in feature/Android phones the EVO might capable of but no al devices will, that's why epic games might not make Android games right now but probably in the future , there are some decent games on Android now tho, the we didn't have before , hopefully developers start deveploping more games for Android tho
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The Apple Apps in general just blow the Android Apps away IMO. I love android, but, they are seriously behind. I never even open my market anymore because it's full of junk.
That said, I agree with the guy above me. One major reason is it is much easier to develop for IOS and one set of hardware than it is with Android. Some of the Android phones are serious garbage (I'm looking at you Samsung Acclaim!) and should never have been released.

Is it bad I wifi tether my Evo to play games on my Ipod, i.e. Words with Friends? I've played it on my Evo, and it's not as smooth. Yes, I'm one of those people that carry 2 devices. I'm not willing to sacrifice a fully customizable OS for a generic one. I give it to Apple for having some good games. BTW has anyone tried Towerbloxx for android? It's like comparing Atari to PS3. Android got the raw end on that deal, as well as many other ports.

I agree its the same reason Google had to wait to include hardware acceleration because not all phones are capable of it...with the next update hopefully this summer we should see much better phones (the evo is already better then any iPhone ) as well as a better environment for app developers and users..
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rdavis3052 said:
Is it bad I wifi tether my Evo to play games on my Ipod, i.e. Words with Friends? I've played it on my Evo, and it's not as smooth. Yes, I'm one of those people that carry 2 devices. I'm not willing to sacrifice a fully customizable OS for a generic one. I give it to Apple for having some good games. BTW has anyone tried Towerbloxx for android? It's like comparing Atari to PS3. Android got the raw end on that deal, as well as many other ports.
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I too, always have my Ipod touch to tether to the EVO.
Also something i noticed while playing games on both the Glass itsself feels different. Ipod has a feel i like and the EVO's screen i cant feel it as much. And that little difference to me helps to control games better on the ipod.

How important are games?
I use my phone for business and pleasure, but I don't really play games.
I have a top-of-the-line pc for games, at home...

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I too, always have my Ipod touch to tether to the EVO.
Also something i noticed while playing games on both the Glass itsself feels different. Ipod has a feel i like and the EVO's screen i cant feel it as much. And that little difference to me helps to control games better on the ipod.
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I prefer the feel of my Evo's glass to that of my iPod.
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How about N64oid and Tiger GBA? You don't even have to root to use emulators on Android but you have to jailbreak and jump through other various hoops to emulate on iOS. My favorite game on my phone is Mario 64.
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nabbed said:
How important are games?
I use my phone for business and pleasure, but I don't really play games.
I have a top-of-the-line pc for games, at home...
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Games are important enough that the android market is split into 2 sections......apps and GAMES....
Apparently they can be a good source of income for developers, and a great way to pass time....
I use my phone for business and pleasure as well....but I also have a top of the line phone with a huge screen for games and movies.
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I have played the Angry Birds games, but I don't even have them installed anymore. The only game on my EVO right now is Wordfeud (addicted!).
I'm impatiently awaiting: http://www.androidcentral.com/sneak-peek-cut-rope-android

IOS has some pretty dope ass games but i just hate carrying it around all the time so i just stick to my evo but i do wish some of the games on apple would be on android i mean it took months for tap tap 4 to come to android and thats like the only game i really really wanted on the android thats on apples line of games...IOS games are fun but the iPhone is WAY too mainstream for me the evo is a mainstream device but its less mainstream than the iphone so im good haha

Because iOS has real-time low-latency audio (sub 1ms). Android does not.
This is why you see virtual pianos, keyboards, synthesizers, multitrack recording studios, and other music production software only on iOS.

david black said:
How about N64oid and Tiger GBA? You don't even have to root to use emulators on Android but you have to jailbreak and jump through other various hoops to emulate on iOS. My favorite game on my phone is Mario 64.
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how well does the N64oid run? i know the GBA, NES, and PSX emulators run pretty smooth

For gaming, android cannot hold a candle to IOS games. I've had iphones before and now the Evo, and while the Evo is a very nice phone, it just can't compete app wise. The market really is a joke, way too much crap on there. Google just needs to enable hardware acceleration, my iphone 2g had that 4 years ago.

Hell the only games I play are Angry Birds, Brick Breaker (not as good at blackberry's but it's still fun), Tetris, Live Holdem Pro, MX Moto and emulator's (mostly gameboid) and my evo does perfectly fine never lags, I played Gun bro's and it didn't lag at all, I don't know why it's such a big deal, I'd rather play graphic intensive games on either the 55" or 40" not a 4.3 lol.
And even on trips when I'm not driving I just bring my laptop or play games like above, I don't see why gaming on a phone is soo important, hell I was stoked back in the day with Snake on all my Nokia's and Brick Breaker on my Blackberry's so games def. don't make my decision weather or not to buy a certain phone.

Can somebody please explain what you guys are talking about?
We have 3 versions of angry birds all of which are free on android yet you have to pay for on ios. We have speedx3d, haypi kingom, mini squadron, gun bros, pew pew, a handful of excellent poker apps, alchemy, robo defense, fruit ninja, Game Dev story... and the list goes on and on and on.
Sure we don't have as many polished games as ios but you have to take in to account how long ios has been out compared to android...Nonetheless we have more than enough games to satisfy just about most peoples preferences and if you're not happy now then you will never be happy with what android has to offer.

Sure we don't have as many polished games as ios but you have to take in to account how long ios has been out compared to android...Nonetheless we have more than enough games to satisfy just about most peoples preferences and if you're not happy now then you will never be happy with what android has to offer.[/QUOTE]
That's not true at all a lot of people are more than happy whit whut Android offers...its just the games needs an upgrade...and all of em need SD card options
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ipod touch games are tailored specifically for the apple hardware and ios. it's like comparing console games to pc games. console games (95% of the time) run smoother on consoles because they're made specifically for consoles and created to take advantage of everything the console has to offer. pc games have to run on a plethora of different hardware and software platforms.

[Q] Good Turned Based RPG

Well I got my Play and got Eternal Legacy, which I beat today [Graphics were great, story was terrible, was also too short and lastly the ending was disappointing, or better yet - Non Existent].
So, now I need a new turned based RPG. I have noticed that all the good RPGs [and games generally] are on the Iphone with no android ports.
Can anyone suggest a good turn based RPG. Please don't say emulators, because the PlayStation emulators still can't get the games to run smoothly anyway. It's hard to go back to PlayStation graphics after playing Eternal Legacy.
Someone suggested Golden Sun 2 for Gamboid, however, I tied it and the sound is choppy [just like FPse] and it always restarts after the long text intro right when the characters appear on the screen for the first time.

Final fantasy 7 works great for me on fpse. Best RPG ever

I knew someone was going to come on here and say that..Final Fantasy 7 does not work properly on the Play, that's why there is a bounty on cracking the code of native psx emulator on the Play so that games can be played using it. Final Fantasy 7 on FPse is a miserable experience in terms of audio and it slows down a bit, far from "great." And like I said, after playing Eternal Legacy, or just generally speaking, it's hard to go back to PlayStation 1 graphics. Playstation 2 Fine, 1...nononono....

If you don't want to rely on emulation, Symphony of the Eternity looks like a valid starting point, though it's not optimized for the gamepad. However, good stories are hard to find anywhere, and sometimes a further problem lies on bad translations (Zenonia's case).

Forget those games get fpse and a rom called chrono cross.
If you own the game in the past of course.
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Yeah I would def play Chrono Cross, it got a very good review from IGN and I loved Chrono Trigger, once again it's just that FPse has not been able to run ANY game smoothly [ie without sound or graphics problems] so I am a bit reluctant... As for Symphony of the Eternity, I guess I could try that, though it's hard to go back to those sort of graphics after just completing Eternal Legacy.

Oh by the way symphony of the eterinty is optimized for the play, i was just playing it. It controls with the plays directional arrows etc.

jdz...I know fpse isn't perfect, but the three games I play right now (Nectaris: Military Madness...which is an AWESOME turn-based strategy game, Castlevania:Symphony of the Night, and Destruction Derby) all run flawlessly or next to flawlessly so there are some that are there or really close to perfect. I highly recommend Nectaris if you're a fan of the genre. Playstation graphics obviously but if you can get past that you'll love the gameplay.

thanks for the reply/advice, will check them out.

I can't find Eternal Legacy on the android market, am I missing something?

jdz7t8 said:
I knew someone was going to come on here and say that..Final Fantasy 7 does not work properly on the Play, that's why there is a bounty on cracking the code of native psx emulator on the Play so that games can be played using it. Final Fantasy 7 on FPse is a miserable experience in terms of audio and it slows down a bit, far from "great." And like I said, after playing Eternal Legacy, or just generally speaking, it's hard to go back to PlayStation 1 graphics. Playstation 2 Fine, 1...nononono....
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There's no slowdowns at all, only slight oddities in the sound, no where near unplayable.
Honestly it's hard to find good new rpg's on any platform.

jdz7t8 said:
I knew someone was going to come on here and say that..Final Fantasy 7 does not work properly on the Play, that's why there is a bounty on cracking the code of native psx emulator on the Play so that games can be played using it. Final Fantasy 7 on FPse is a miserable experience in terms of audio and it slows down a bit, far from "great." And like I said, after playing Eternal Legacy, or just generally speaking, it's hard to go back to PlayStation 1 graphics. Playstation 2 Fine, 1...nononono....
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You have done somthing wrong to your play then m8 FF7 8 and 9 all run perfect for me with no slowdowm and perfect sound, i let my brother run around coral for a bit in FF7 and his responce was "wow this runs better than it did on the playstation"
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It's not "optimized" for the Xperia Play so you have to download a version from gamelofts website thats made for the snapdragon processors.

Two words: Spectral Souls
It got everything, story, graphics, xperia optimized... etc

IGN gave spectral Souls a bad review:
http://psp.ign.com/articles/742/742395p1.html

It turns out that the bad score was given mainly due to the long and frequent loading moments. If that is not an issue on Android, and it doesn't have to be if they did a good job, then it may make sense. But, man, 10 euro for a ported-to-phone game... it's hard to justify.

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IGN gave spectral Souls a bad review:
http://psp.ign.com/articles/742/742395p1.html
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If you read the review they gave it a lower score because of loading issues, which is no longer an issue in the Android version.
The game is pretty good all around. Not spectacular, but still good.
Video of it running on Xperia Play
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQPUyzd63w0

Holy crap, that's some good music actually! It's getting better and better. Maybe I'll try and give it a try. How much space does it take?

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Holy crap, that's some good music actually! It's getting better and better. Maybe I'll try and give it a try. How much space does it take?
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On your phone it takes 5.77MB and downloads a gig worth of data to your SD card.
If you are a fan of that style of game play (final fantasy tactics, disgaea) then this game will be right up your alley.
Story-wise so far for me it has been average, not as good as FFT, but it's decent enough. It provides a way to play both sides of the storyline, so that adds to the overall enjoyment.
I didn't mind paying 1200 yen for this game. It shows it has a lot more production value than the average mobile game.

What really surprises me is that Android doesnt havent more quality RPGS, I mean mobile devices should be a haven for turned based RPGs because they are actually easy to control with the touch screen. Why is it that more big "well known" RPGs are not on android? Why for example is their a Final Fantasy game on Android? It's on 360 and PS3, so it's not to say that it's an exclusive title to one of the consoles. Come on, esp for a device like the Xperia Play, Sony should be well aware that this device could be the RPG gamers dream come true.

Emulators vs Modern games i.e zombies ,Ngrybirds

Are ? /surely modern games are better ,than the emulator ones ,that evry1 says to download ?

Depends what you enjoy i guess.
The Snes/Genesis era was fluctuated with an amazing amount of high quality platform games.
Try finding a modern day platform game that is better than Sonic the Hedgehog 1 for example.
Todays platform games are mostly shallow experiences compared to older games.

Older games were simply sold as any other toy, so they had to make the best out of your playing experience in order to make you a repeat customer. That involved using more thought out and complex game mechanics, longer play times and more engaging stories and characters, all allowed by the growing processing power of consoles.
Eventually multimillion dollar teams had to be used for those tasks, which made games not profitable. The adoption of distribution means originally used by pirates (aka the internet) and the huge success of the Wii with the casual gaming population allowed companies to cut costs on both distribution and production: casual gamers demand simple addictive games and they're more ready to fork out cash, so you can both cut the videogame store middleman by distributing on the internet and you can cut production costs because you need less cost intensive games.
Right now the game scene resembles a lot the commercial films scene: it's a dual environment with both independent low cost games whose success is a lottery and big budget games which have more or less a planned demand.

I enjoy emulating SNES and PSX a lot more than modern games. I just think those older games are much much more fun to play. And I really love pixel graphics. I have a PS3 at home which is pretty much unused as I emulate on the phone all of the time.
I play mostly RPG's. They story telling in them can't be matched in todays games in my opinion and the older graphics leaves much for my own imagination of things. I can relate more to older games and the feelings they are trying to convey.

spyro,crash,banjo , medievil , mvc , mk, metal slug, pokemon , zelda ,mario , donkey kong , star fox ,ff are simply too amazing!!! You just cant compare these masterpieces to modern games on Phone!
BUT! i still enjoy both the XPERIA games and the classic games ,and i think i play phone games more than classic games they are differenet , so it depends on how you view them. I bought my phone to play emulators , but the phone games had more quality than i expected, and ending up loving them aswell..

Both are good but emu is best. Most new games dont hold a candle to some older ones in terms of gameplay

You can't go wrong with emulators, some of the best games of all time came out in the 90's (Chrono Trigger, Earth Bound, FFVII VII IX, Mega Man X, Chrono Cross, Suikoden, Crash Bandicoot, Metal Gear Solid, Twisted metal, etc.) Not only that, the roms/emulators for SNES, Genesis, NES, and Gameboy Advanced take up FAR less memory than a modern game. The PS1 games are pretty big files (ranging from 300mb to 800mb per disc), but they're usually long amazing games so it's well worth the memory usage.

Iuno if I'll piss the above replies off with my response... but my days of being nostalgia drunken aren't as potent as they used to be.
Nowadays, I'm coming closer to a time where I absolutely can't stand a lot of the games I grew up on.
I hear a lot of people inferring that challenge is a thing that no longer exists in today's game... but once you remove the nostalgia shades, you see that older games weren't harder, they were just full of technical flaws, poor algorithms, outdated control schemes, laughable physics and archaic collision detection that made a game harder than it needs to be.
With that said, I have pretty much all the good emulators on my Xperia PLAY... and they barely ever get used. There's no way in hell I can go back to playing a game like Doom when I've got Dead Space on my Xperia PLAY. Street Fighter 2 seems like an imbalanced trainwreck of a game now, Final Fantasy's magic system was illogical, the jumping physics in a lot of the platformers makes no sense.
Iuno... I still gotta have my Kirby's Adventure and some of the old-school RPGs... but for the most part,I just don't really care to play some outmoded game that suffers from outdated control schemes, and must be stretched and distorted when I can get something newer that makes use of my Xperia PLAY's big, beautiful 854x480 screen.
Take FPS for example... I have some of my fondest childhood memories of putting SNES FPS on the hardest setting and giving my all to make it through. It was a rush and I loved it... back in the day. Play them nowadays, and first thing you recall is
"OMFG, did we really use L/R to strafe back then?"
"Okay... so if R is strafe, how the **** did I shoot? ...oh... the X button... dis-a-point-ING."
"...wait... so I had to use a different button to aim on more than one axis?! WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN"
I recently also tried to play Killer Instinct and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Tournament Fighters (the SNES one, of course) because I remember liking those as a kid too... oh my God... the collision detection was half retarded, and I quickly made that link to figure out balance in fighting games didn't really come 'til the late PlayStation/Dreamcast days.
Newer games like Cordy, Meganoid, INC, Stardash and Pixeline may not have franchise and nostalgia backing it... but they *work* a lot better than old school platformers do.
Same goes for pretty much every genre except RPG... and especially shooters/racers/sports/fighters. Try going back a couple generations in shooters/racers/sports/fighters and you'll be in tears, screaming "Why is this so BAD?!"
People tout the Xperia PLAY is the absolute best option for emulation... but honestly, I'd rather play games that are either made specifically for the Xperia PLAY, or optimized to work with it.
Nothing wrong with old school... but on a general note, a lot of people need to differentiate between genuine goodness, and notice when nostalgia's blinding them from seeing when a game is a pre-mature aberration.

You've given it away: RPG's and adventures, the kind of games one actually may want to play again because they have a plot and can be rediscovered, are still unchallenged. The rest of genres have been either dumbed down where they're not a challenge anymore (Survival Horror games as the most conspicuous example, compare Resident Evil and Silent Hill with Resident Evil 5), or mainly figured out in terms of control, or both (FPS, compare the complex dungeons in Quake vs. the cutscene-laden FPS of today)... but not in the Xperia Play. Compare Battlefield 2 and Minecraft in terms of control and then roll a die to see if you cry, and if so, how hard.
Maybe Street Fighter 2 Turbo is unbalanced and has retarded physics, but people know most characters of its roster. The same cannot be said for games like Bruce Lee.
Maybe Final Fantasy 7 or 8 have ridiculous animations and they are childish to no end, but they say something to people, unlike Eternal Legacy.

Logseman said:
"... but not in the Xperia Play."
"...they say something to people, unlike Eternal Legacy."
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lol, I agree with some things you've said, but let's be honest... it's a low blow (nearing straw man logical fallacy) to use Gameloft's incompetence to evaluate this generation of gaming - even if we're being specific enough to only consider the Xperia PLAY. Not to say you gotta be like me, but I at least used games that were prime at the time because it just make one's own point less respectable if all they can attack are weak opponents.
Gameloft has made some horrid controls (and even more horrid storylines), but the Xperia PLAY's game library has much more than Gameloft.
Dead Space; for example, not only created a standard of perfection for touch-pad controls, but it brought handheld dual-analog gaming to a reality it wouldn't have reached until the Vita was released next year... and with additional OS functions the Vita will likely NEVER have. Mainstream handhelds have consistently been weak with MMORPGs, Xperia PLAY's already got a handful of them... which work over 3G. What the Xperia PLAY's accomplished is very amazing when viewed from that standpoint.
The only thing that's come close to that was the Pandora, and it didn't do it near as well.
..and while Eternal Legacy's storyline hit mediocrity quite often (I'll admit, that forced kiss scene on the mountains almost made me rage) Eternal Legacy is not the cream of the crop. For example, get into Spectral Souls and you'll catch something that has a gameplay system easily able to take on Disgaea, and a storyline that truly develops into something substantial.
EDIT: BTW, i get a error when trying to view the image you posted.
YET ANOTHER EDIT: Even though I cited RPGs as the one genre that I can credit the old school for... removing the nostalgia glasses kinda takes them off the pedestal too. Newer RPGs have better overall design, less generic dungeon structure, characters with vastly better development, battle systems are more variant and allow more options/growth, conversations are more interesting, conversations are to a point in which you get involved input that will change the tide of things, storylines have much more impact, atmosphere actually has a passionate craft behind it... it's not just a "GRAFIX WHORE!" thing... games just improved over time, regardless of the genre.
Honestly, the only thing I really miss how "melodic" music used to be in games, as opposed to that wannabe-theatric bull**** they have now. And I'd even go as far as to admit that's a bias on my behalf too, since what I labeled as "wannabe-theatric bull****" actually has a far greater sense of orchestral composure behind it.
...luckily, KEMCO has been on a non-stop RPG churning spree for people just like me who want old-school-style RPGs on Android without them actually being the games I've already played ages ago.

It is not a strawman to compare successful games by successful companies. Whether we like it or not, Gameloft is the most successful videogame company of our days. Besides, EA hasn't published any RPG's on the Play (not that I'd mind snatching some Dragon Age goodness...) and the only offers are Gamevil's and Kemco's which appear to be made with RPGMaker.
The Xperia Play means undoubtedly a breakthrough, even if it's been mostly a commercial flop (let's assume it, it was marketed wrongly and it was too expensive at first). People pay cash for its games quite gladly, unlike most other Android handsets where people buy more ad-supported games or pirate them. It hosts some good games, and it's proven that touch screen gaming can not substitute for buttons and sticks.
However, it lacks device-sellers, or games which make a dent on the public. Right now it has a price where bundling it with a game could drive further sales, but it's really hard to find a device-seller like what FFVII did for the PSX. Spectral Souls is nice, but it didn't hit in the PSP where it came from, so it's hard to imagine it would do on the Play, particularly with its high price.
A game I'd LOVE to see ported is Battle for Wesnoth. It's a turn-based strategy game, probably the flagship of open-source games, and it has an iPhone port... but no Android one.

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It is not a strawman to compare successful games by successful companies. Whether we like it or not, Gameloft is the most successful videogame company of our days.
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Gameloft certainly has been successful, but I don't know how much weight I'd put in that since their success relies on using low prices to dodge the flak they'd catch for so many poorly-tested low-quality releases. Comparing their 'kind' of success to something like Sonic the Hedgehog just isn't level to me.
When I said your comment was near being a straw-man, it's because we - the Xperia PLAY gamers - have already witnessed Gameloft incompetence, know they consistently screw things up... and we know not to expect much out of them. Why attack such an easy target? If you wanna make a point, it'd be much more effective to attack games of higher accomplishments.
I'll agree with the part about device sellers. Or at least half-agree... there's definitely games on Xperia PLAY that make it worth the purchase, but they aren't being marketed very well. Like you said, it's commercial success isn't quite where it should be...shame, because the Kristen Schaal ads were quite amazing (easily better than what Sony used for PS3/PSP) and they could've definitely pushed some units if they were aired in America. As far as I know though, Xperia PLAY only got a half-assed mention at a superbowl commercial a year back, and again in a back to school Verizon ad.
Another thing worth mentioning on that note is that things were also made quite a bit complicated when it comes to buying new Xperia PLAY games. Gameloft and EA's games, in particular, revolve around completely separate app stores and there's even some stuff that's inaccessible unless you're on the Rogers/Fido network. Not quite a big burden, but still one nonetheless.
Spectral Souls did flop on PSP, but it was also marred with issues that made it unplayable... issues that have been resolved in the Android version. At the same time though, that's still on it's reputation.
A game I'd LOVE to see ported is Battle for Wesnoth. It's a turn-based strategy game, probably the flagship of open-source games, and it has an iPhone port... but no Android one.
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Hm? I could've sworn Battle for Wesnoth was on Android. Did you mean to say you wished there was an Xperia PLAY Optimzed version?
Yep... Wesnoth is definitely on Droid.

TLRtheory said:
Iuno if I'll piss the above replies off with my response... but my days of being nostalgia drunken aren't as potent as they used to be.
Nowadays, I'm coming closer to a time where I absolutely can't stand a lot of the games I grew up on.
I hear a lot of people inferring that challenge is a thing that no longer exists in today's game... but once you remove the nostalgia shades, you see that older games weren't harder, they were just full of technical flaws, poor algorithms, outdated control schemes, laughable physics and archaic collision detection that made a game harder than it needs to be.
With that said, I have pretty much all the good emulators on my Xperia PLAY... and they barely ever get used. There's no way in hell I can go back to playing a game like Doom when I've got Dead Space on my Xperia PLAY. Street Fighter 2 seems like an imbalanced trainwreck of a game now, Final Fantasy's magic system was illogical, the jumping physics in a lot of the platformers makes no sense.
Iuno... I still gotta have my Kirby's Adventure and some of the old-school RPGs... but for the most part,I just don't really care to play some outmoded game that suffers from outdated control schemes, and must be stretched and distorted when I can get something newer that makes use of my Xperia PLAY's big, beautiful 854x480 screen.
Take FPS for example... I have some of my fondest childhood memories of putting SNES FPS on the hardest setting and giving my all to make it through. It was a rush and I loved it... back in the day. Play them nowadays, and first thing you recall is
"OMFG, did we really use L/R to strafe back then?"
"Okay... so if R is strafe, how the **** did I shoot? ...oh... the X button... dis-a-point-ING."
"...wait... so I had to use a different button to aim on more than one axis?! WHAT IS THIS I DONT EVEN"
I recently also tried to play Killer Instinct and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Tournament Fighters (the SNES one, of course) because I remember liking those as a kid too... oh my God... the collision detection was half retarded, and I quickly made that link to figure out balance in fighting games didn't really come 'til the late PlayStation/Dreamcast days.
Newer games like Cordy, Meganoid, INC, Stardash and Pixeline may not have franchise and nostalgia backing it... but they *work* a lot better than old school platformers do.
Same goes for pretty much every genre except RPG... and especially shooters/racers/sports/fighters. Try going back a couple generations in shooters/racers/sports/fighters and you'll be in tears, screaming "Why is this so BAD?!"
People tout the Xperia PLAY is the absolute best option for emulation... but honestly, I'd rather play games that are either made specifically for the Xperia PLAY, or optimized to work with it.
Nothing wrong with old school... but on a general note, a lot of people need to differentiate between genuine goodness, and notice when nostalgia's blinding them from seeing when a game is a pre-mature aberration.
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QFT. I found myself when we discovered PSXperia I emulated a few games, played them for a week, and then went back to the new games I had. I tried to play through Crash Bandicoot again and found it needlessly frustrating. And in the past I've emulated on my computer everything from old arcade games I played through Genesis games and more. Every time I found myself playing for a few hours and then forgetting about it.
Not sure if it was just because it was a different time, a different place, or our expectations have just been pushed so high its hard to go back down. I could echo everything you say about bugs, and hit detection etc.
I think the other thing is, we (or at least I), don't have the time to sit down and play for long cycles like many of these games require. The Xperia Emulator partially helps this with the built in save feature but still not all emulators have that. Much of my game playing on my Xplay these days is at around midnight for a half hour or so before I go to sleep (which makes Dead Space even more awesome).
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Gameloft certainly has been successful, but I don't know how much weight I'd put in that since their success relies on using low prices to dodge the flak they'd catch for so many poorly-tested low-quality releases. Comparing their 'kind' of success to something like Sonic the Hedgehog just isn't level to me.
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Regarding Gameloft, I think I put up with a lot more with them for the fact I haven't paid more than a buck for any game of theirs that I own. If I paid $50 for their games I would have likely burned down their offices by now. That said if you look at some games from the past they were almost as buggy (especially PC games but at least those could be updated!) and we DID pay $50 for them and liked it. I still have sitting in a storage box a copy of Battlecruiser 3000AD, if you want to see a buggy game look that one up, it was actually unplayable out of the box!

The port was published in September. I didn't have news of it... At any rate, AWWWW YEAHHHHHH!!!

While I agree with some of what you and Rogue Leader are saying about certain games being out dated and whatnot, there were a ton of older games, especially renowned RPG's, that I missed in my youth. The fact that I get to finally play them **on my phone** whenever and wherever I want, AND with a game pad, is pretty astounding to me.

Yeah, some classic games show their age, but there are many gems out there that most the new games can't touch. Super mario series, Final fantasy series, Zelda series..the new games just lack the level designs, the perfect level of polish, and the emotion of these games. I dunno, maybe developers just tried harder then because these games originally sold for upwards of $70, rather than upwards of $7
However, one new game series has seemed to have captured the magic of the past, the Bit Trip series. I would kill to have Runner on my phone, but I know it will never happen.

Does anyone else feel like the xplay sucks for FPS?

I love me some modern combat. But where is was good with the touchscreen on my old phones I feel like I get my ass handed to me constantly. I have had my xplay for 6 months now and play mc most of the time. So far I just feel like I am the fish in the barrel getting shot at. Playing campaign no worries. Online and I just get pissed off. Plus I find it total bs to see people getting g 53 frickin kills in a100 kill game.

Those touchpads are hideous. Sure, they'll work in a pinch, but trying to play against other people using them? No way. Can we convert them into thumbsticks at all? Any sort of accessory?

There are two versions of MC2.one with good controls and one with horrible (shadowgun) controlls. I find playing online enjoyable and I always finish in the top 3...altho that might be my sweet fps skills

Hardly. Developers can suck at using the touchpads properly, but the actual technology is great. Starting off as a total scrub on Modern Combat 3 online, I was pulling off scores and manuevers that I have never been able to do on any other handheld FPS.
EDIT: and yeah, MC2 would give a bad impression if you had any update after 3.3.9 (they started the version count back to 1.0.4+ in all the "broken" new versions).
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The games are great, MC3, Dead Space, etc but yes I find it difficult to play these games using the 'analogue / touchpads / etc' thingys I can only describe as 'male nipples'!
I'm impressed with the games itself, the graphics for a phone is impressive but until we have better nipples to play with I'm gonna stick to emulators or games that don't use them
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maddog00 said:
Those touchpads are hideous. Sure, they'll work in a pinch, but trying to play against other people using them? No way. Can we convert them into thumbsticks at all? Any sort of accessory?
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Sorry I was reffering to Modern Combat 3. I specifically use the older Modern Combat 2 version where the controls were decent, the version prior to GL destroying the controls. But yeah sorry I should have clarified I am strickly meaning MC3. And I wrote this thread after I just got out of a online game where everyone was like 7 or 8 kills and one guy had 53 kills which I think is bumpkiss. Anyone know if Iphone users and android users play online together? Reason I ask is becuase Iphone users are able to hack their games to do all sorts of stuff, run faster faster, shoot fire out of a handgun, all head shots, etc. Also I really wish that GL would allow users to play against other users within the same rank online. Its BS when you see new inexperienced users playing aginst others far more experienced. It makes online play not fun at all, and I have emailed GL asking them to implement a ranking system that lets you play with other users of similar rank. Never got a reply, of course.
Oh and if it seemed like my first post sounded angry I was. I was pissed and frustrated, this is/was a pissed off thread I was venting. Guess I was just mad because people tell me " I wont play a shooting game with you because you have a PSP phone and you will kick my ass", but my ass is the only one that gets kicked online. Again not mad anymore just annoyed. I play online constantly. If anyone wants to play online with me some time my GL username is the same as my XDA username. Hope to see you all on the Digital Battlefield.

The first games on the Xperia play had little to no support for those touch pads, they were rubbish, Although now, a lot of developers are working it out, Take EA, they have great games for the xperia play.

TheCraig said:
The first games on the Xperia play had little to no support for those touch pads, they were rubbish, Although now, a lot of developers are working it out, Take EA, they have great games for the xperia play.
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I agree. EA has done an awesome job with the controls. Much better on their first attempts then GL and they 7 or 8th attempt. Dead Space has excellent use of the controls. And the graphics are sweet. I am really looking forward to The Virtual Tennis by Sega. I still play my Dreamcast to this day and have great times with the Tennis game on it.

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I should have clarified I am strickly meaning MC3. And I wrote this thread after I just got out of a online game where everyone was like 7 or 8 kills and one guy had 53 kills which I think is bumpkiss. Anyone know if Iphone users and android users play online together? Reason I ask is becuase Iphone users are able to hack their games to do all sorts of stuff, run faster faster, shoot fire out of a handgun, all head shots, etc.
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Well with the iPhone players can use the gyroscope for aiming. That would give them a huge edge but I don't think that that's the case because GL would heavily advertise(yeah I'm American, Yank, fat, whatever *yawn*) that it has cross play.
People can hack and cheat on Android as easily as they do on iOS. I saw a guy who could run 10x faster than every else but I didn't report him because he was on my team and we won because of him lol. And besides, GL will most likely not respond to my email or do anything about it...
I've seen guys get 40+ kills with nothing but headshots. While I do accept that there are guys that are that good, I highly doubt that they would spend the amount of time that they do on MC3 instead Call of Duty (unless they'are cheating of course).
I've seen people cheat on other Android games.
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Well with the iPhone players can use the gyroscope for aiming. That would give them a huge edge...
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Have you ever tried using the gyroscopic aiming? It's really not practical at all. Matter of fact, pretty much everyone I've shown it to on my iPod Touch thinks it's a horrible gimmick that they'd never use seriously.

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Have you ever tried using the gyroscopic aiming? It's really not practical at all. Matter of fact, pretty much everyone I've shown it to on my iPod Touch thinks it's a horrible gimmick that they'd never use seriously.
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I have an iPod Touch as well. Once you've master gyroscopic controls on a fps, it'll make you a formidable foe. It's easier to look around and get headshots.
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Dead Space works flawlessly with the Touch Analog pads.
Thing is with some games it doesn't work that well such as Gameloft games.

Well obviously,it doesn't have analog sticks.
Those touch pads are there so you won't cover the screen with your moving thumbs,not just to mimic analog sticks.

Has anyone tried the icontrol pad analog sticks? They have to be better than these "man nips" lol
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Ok guys heres the word on the street.
TLDRTheory loves the touch pads. he thinks the are the best thing since sliced blogna...
The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
I guess it's a fair deal tho because everyone has to stop moving to take aim so really everyone is at a disadvantage because of the sloppy game system
My opinion is that the control things are crap. Even if the developer can use them right most of the time it's hard as hell and not even fun anymore.
Whats the point in playing a game if no fun? Yup exactly, NONE!
so yeah I agree with OP. FPS on this game are ****e
even the "good" ones still have problems because of the nature of the beast.

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Ok guys heres the word on the street.
TLDRTheory loves the touch pads. he thinks the are the best thing since sliced blogna...
The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
I guess it's a fair deal tho because everyone has to stop moving to take aim so really everyone is at a disadvantage because of the sloppy game system
My opinion is that the control things are crap. Even if the developer can use them right most of the time it's hard as hell and not even fun anymore.
Whats the point in playing a game if no fun? Yup exactly, NONE!
so yeah I agree with OP. FPS on this game are ****e
even the "good" ones still have problems because of the nature of the beast.
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I do love playing FPS shooters on the Xplay im just saying it feels like despite the fact you would think we have an advantage over touchscreen users, it seems like we are the ones at a disadvantage. Maybe if a developer makes a FPS and does an ass kicking job in tweaking the touchpads we might have an edge then... but again if that or when that happens

Hogwarts said:
Ok guys heres the word on the street.
TLDRTheory loves the touch pads. he thinks the are the best thing since sliced blogna...
The only game I find enjoyable / easy to use is FIFA 12 or other overhead games like age of zombie / fifia 12
The FPS games suck, the only one ever considered decent by gamers was Rainbow 6 and even then it's like way to ****ty. Without auto aim you can barely get a lock on a moving target and I'm not joking.
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*Yawn* ...oh, you again.
First of all, the saying is "Best thing since sliced bread," and I've never said anything about being in love with them. When put in the hands of a competent developer, they serve their purpose. Just because I say they work doesn't mean I prefer them over a more tactile solution.
For what it's worth, I'd actually have rather had twin analogs more akin to what's featured on the iControlPad... but since Xperia PLAY's software support is about 5x more than what iControlPad has, Xperia PLAY it is.
Second, have you played any FPS released in the past decade? Even the most popular, most highly acclaimed series out (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3) integrates auto-aim, so you've already failed if what you aim to prove is that Xperia PLAY's integrates auto-aim out of poor quality.
Even still, it's not like auto-aim is a necessity to have precise aiming on Xperia PLAY. Dead Space on Xperia PLAY already proved that; without a doubt, there's a such thing as a control scheme competent enough such that you can lock on for headshots without having computer-aided guidance.
Yeah, some games need auto-aim... but that's because their touchpad integration wasn't made as responsive as EA's was in Dead Space. If Gameloft ever stepped up to that level, Modern Combat, Shadow Vanguard, NOVA 2, BiA2 and all the rest could ditch their aim assistance... that's a developer-side issue, not a fault of the hardware.

I guess I'm in the minority but I feel the control pad is an advantage. I generally suck at FPS games but having played MC2 online numerous times, I have had quite a few matches where I held my own. I never really got frustrated about not being able to get kills, and I enjoy them. Either the people I'm playing against suck, or theres something good to these analog touchpads. Just my 2 cents....

I think it's really bad with Modern Combat 3, I hate touch screen controls, but the analog sticks are just way below par. Minecraft on the other hand, feels like a dream!

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I do love playing FPS shooters on the Xplay im just saying it feels like despite the fact you would think we have an advantage over touchscreen users, it seems like we are the ones at a disadvantage. Maybe if a developer makes a FPS and does an ass kicking job in tweaking the touchpads we might have an edge then... but again if that or when that happens
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amen brotha word up
that is the truth speek
I play shadow gun without da analog sticks
it's much easier to get da headshot on da alien muffs without them
using them it's like it never be landing the reticle rite on da head of da bloke
the only games I like using it for are ones where accuracy dont matta like age of zombies or summin

Xperia Z Gaming Thread!

Hello there before my XZ I had a xperia play but because of its outdated hardware(still a great phone though) I needed a upgrade but gaming is a big factor on my phone and I couldn't find a gaming Thread for the xperia z and since android has so many awesome games and the z is capable of handling these very well I thought to make a dedicated gaming Thread!
If your like me and have a moga pocket/pro I will also mark compatible moga games also, and if you request I will upload my GKP files for gamekeyboard for touch only games that I have set up with my moga pro!
I would include games with ps3 controller support too but I don't have a ps3 (Xbox FTW) so if people are kind enough to inform me I will add this too =)
And please also tell me what games your playing and I will try and and include them aswell!
I'll start the list with my games!
Aftermath XHD (MOGA)
Fun little zombie shooter game with great gameplay
Asphalt 7 (Moga)
Runs great everyone knows this game
Looking forward to asphalt 8
Alien vs Predator (MOGA)
The classic films made into a android game and really well too can play this for hours and nice graphics too
Bounty hunter: Black dawn
Funky fun FPS nice graphics and fun gameplay and I love the music not played it that much yet but hoping for MOGA support soon! BUT trying to set up a gkp
The Bards Tale (MOGA)
Has me in stitches laughing a fun RPG with good gameplay and a beautiful game aswell (I downloaded the 3.5GB Hd version though)
Bladeslinger
Beautiful graphics but I find combat quite repetitive and slow looks good with some cool looking bosses items are a bit overpriced though
I do like the swipe to slice with your sword though!
Bounty Arms (HID?)
Absolutely beautiful graphics but that's about it really gameplay is abit meh, supposed to be HID support it wouldn't recognise my moga in HID mode though but others have reported it does work
Brootherhood of violence (MOGA)
Nice graphics not had much time to play it though!
Carmageddon
Retro graphics (to me anyway) Fun, violent and destructive! Will set up gkp asap
Call of duty: Black ops zombies
Some graphical glitches in menus on my XZ but in game runs fine screaming for controller support though! I have set up a gkp but it's not perfect will upload if requested
Conduit HDMOGA)
Appears as incompatible with the z but does work flawlessly download apk (it's free) then purchase full game through app (£3.21)
One of my favourite games atm nice graphics and gameplay and I like the storyline aswell
Crazy taxi (MOGA)
Great game from a great console and ported to android it a great fashion smooth as butter looks beautiful and is still as fun/crazy as I remember!
Dead trigger (MOGA)
If you don't have this game go get it now it's free! Nice graphics (on max) good gameplay (can get repetitive though) but loads of guns to get/upgrade and with some crazy guns aswell!
Drift mania 2 (MOGA)
If you don't have a MOGA controller I would skip this one, but there is a light version to try!
Ok graphics but what's more fun than drifting? - actually a lot
Dungeon hunter 4 (MOGA)
Another fremium gameloft game with nice graphics, a ok story line and hours of hacking and slashing. Does get better the better armour/weapons you have.
Epoch
Nice graphics unique(ish) gameplay and pretty nice graphics can get abit repetitive sometimes though.
Expandable rearmed (MOGA)
Never played it on the dreamcast and I don't know why! One of my (many) favourite games atm and playing with the MOGA makes it so much better!
Final Fantasy 3
The DS port not played it much (my girlfriend does though) and she loves it, very cute graphics
Gangster Vegas (4)
Good graphics, massive map, gameplay not too bad (but I'm waiting on controller support) some bugs as all new gameloft games but pretty solid game overall
Gangster Rio (3) (MOGA)
It's ok, graphics are ok, gameplay is pretty poor though I wouldn't recommend as there are better style games now
GTA 3 (MOGA)
^^ Nuff said. But plays great and still as good as it was back in the day
GTA Vice city (MOGA)
^^ again Nuff said, completed on my xperia play and again (on max graphics) on my xperia z
If you don't have this games you must get it!!
House of the dead overkill: Lost Reels
I love this game, my favourite touch screen game so far, tried to map with gamekeyboard to no avail, but still it's got nice graphics, good gameplay and I can play for hours and is very repayable. I highly recommend
Max Payne (MOGA)
Never played it on any other platforms so can't compare it to them but still love this game with my moga, a deep story line and can be very chilling at time (walking across blood level) Another highly recommended game
Modern combat 4 (MOGA)
Most people have heard or seen this but it's the best COD like game we have until MC5 (maybe not best FPS) campaign is quite short but it's all about online! (to me anyways)
NOVA 3 (MOGA)
Halo clone really and pretty good game made better by MOGA controller campaign is quite long but online isn't as good as MC4
Need for speed: Most wanted
Screaming out for controller support (it is xplay optimised) but ok racing game non the less, could have made it a lot better though (free roam) Nice graphics and sound
Order and chaos online
Again screaming for controller support, but great game I enjoy playing it (can be addictive) even if they do want you to but in game currency can be achieved without
Ravensword:shadowlands (MOGA)
Loove this game it's not a perfect RPG and is quite short and the storyline is abit meh, but you will still enjoy travelling the world and exploring the beautiful scenery and upgrading your character, it's the android skyrim until they (crescent moon games) release a sequel
Rayman Jungle run
Rayman! It's looks great on our 1080p display and is a great time killer
Real boxing (MOGA)
Beautiful graphics, pretty good gameplay, I like the career mode which is quite long 60ish fights. Multiplayer would be nice though--might just be me but I find it harder to dodge with the moga.
Real racing 3
Pretty boring (to me anyways) at first and without spending real money, but once you unlock the supercars becomes a lot more fun. Still a good racing simulator with nice graphics
-I have gkp for this aswell if you want it just ask=)
Resident evil 4
Got a English version of game from Internet, pretty good love the resident evil series so nice to play on my phone
Real football 13 (MOGA)
Nice graphics, gameplay pretty terrible though and no moga analogue support fifa 12 is better
Ricky charmichael's motocross
Love this game purely for the Multiplayer, really fun and competitive, good graphics
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Yes I know I overuse brackets (haha)
Sorry if I go on about the MOGA a lot too but I do love it...
Would like to hear others opinions about games listed too!
!!!! More games incoming!!!
Please suggest things to make it better improve the list and also tell me what games your playing!!!
Only a small amount of my games, I will constantly update list with new games and update reviews the more I play them.
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When I saw that you came from the xperia Play,I had to contribute to this thread...I still love the phone and think its the most underrated device ever,especially now that nvidia came out with project shield which is the stupidest thing ever but thats off topic...
Anyways some of my current games:
Mini Motor Racing Xperia
-Great gameplay,easy but thats what I want from a mobile game.
Kingdom Rush
-Fun tower defense game,looks great in full hd and is just the right amount of challenging
Jetpack Joyride
-It was great on the xperia play,but still awesome on a 5'' screen
Slingshot Racing
-Its cool and all,but gets boring pretty quickly,I mostly play it with friends now
Shadowguneadzone
-Great competitive fps,I discovered that I have a talent for this game...play me some time
Super Stickman Golf 2
-Amazing Game,so addictive,and looks simple but great.
Spirit
-Looks trippy and can get you playing for hours
Voxel Rush
-Pretty simple,looks cool and you can always compete with your friends since is easy to pick up
Ready Steady Bang
-Dead Simple,download it and play it with a friend.
Crazy Taxi
-Playing this all the time,it feels nostalgic and I cant get tired of it after playing on countless systems all these years.
GelaTennis
-Kinda weird at the beginning,but once you get the hang of it,it can be a blast.
I got lots more,but these are my top several at the moment. It's 4 am,but if this takes of ill put play store links and all that pazzaz

I Refuse to play games that do not save your progress amongst devices. Its by far and away my biggest bugbear with android.
thus i'm stuck playing games like candy crush and temple run 2.
As soon as developers get off their fat lazy asses and start allowing cloud saves, then i will start parting with my hard earned cash and playing more involved and better games.
But until then, they can go do one. I ain't wasting my time and money on a game, only to have to start all over again on a different device.
if anyone knows if there is a a definitive list of android games that allows you to cloud save, please provide a link. thanks.

samxool said:
I Refuse to play games that do not save your progress amongst devices. Its by far and away my biggest bugbear with android.
thus i'm stuck playing games like candy crush and temple run 2.
As soon as developers get off their fat lazy asses and start allowing cloud saves, then i will start parting with my hard earned cash and playing more involved and better games.
But until then, they can go do one. I ain't wasting my time and money on a game, only to have to start all over again on a different device.
if anyone knows if there is a a definitive list of android games that allows you to cloud save, please provide a link. thanks.
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riptide gp 2
upcoming asphalt 8
homerun battle 2

Real racing 3 if you have Facebook account.
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samxool said:
I Refuse to play games that do not save your progress amongst devices. Its by far and away my biggest bugbear with android.
thus i'm stuck playing games like candy crush and temple run 2.
As soon as developers get off their fat lazy asses and start allowing cloud saves, then i will start parting with my hard earned cash and playing more involved and better games.
But until then, they can go do one. I ain't wasting my time and money on a game, only to have to start all over again on a different device.
if anyone knows if there is a a definitive list of android games that allows you to cloud save, please provide a link. thanks.
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Dead Trigger. I highly recommend it. It's a great time killer.
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Fokezy said:
When I saw that you came from the xperia Play,I had to contribute to this thread...I still love the phone and think its the most underrated device ever,especially now that nvidia came out with project shield which is the stupidest thing ever but thats off topic.../QUOTE]
Thanks for your input! And yes xplay was underrated and Sony could of made it a lot better than it was, the amount of times I've had that conversation is too many haha
And I agree with you about project shield haha, and Yeh I hope this thread doesn't just fade away through the many threads, just thought it might be useful to some people
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Doom 3 and Return to Castle Wolfenstein played with an Ipega or PS3 pad (depending on whether I'm at work or at home), plus just about every emulator going. Like you guys I upgraded from a PLAY but still use that a lot too.
Waiting for the next update for Project S.T.A.L.K.E.R; one of my favourite games on the PC being ported to Android.
Anyone figured out how to map hard keys to NFS Most Wanted? Still use my PLAY for this game as the touchscreen controls don't cut it for me.

Despicable me, Airport scanner, men in black 3, subway surfers are some really nice games

Deu5Vult said:
Anyone figured out how to map hard keys to NFS Most Wanted? Still use my PLAY for this game as the touchscreen controls don't cut it for me.
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I can't even play the game on my device, how did you manage to make it work?

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I can't even play the game on my device, how did you manage to make it work?
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I'm pretty sure I downloaded it through Sony Select when the EA Games 90 Days for Free offer was on, though I can't see it listed now. The Google Play version is still incompatible with the Z, as you probably know.
The 90 days offer must have expired as I just paid another £5 to continue playing it on my Z...and still without joypad support (I must be mad).
You could try the method in this link, though I can't vouch for whether it works or not:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275862

There is a version of NFS MW with Joypad support (HID) out there
But the bad news is that it's from the Samsung app store and so will need to find someone with a Samsung device and transfer it manually.
I managed to get a copy from my other half's galaxy s4 and works fine on my Z (I own the Google Play version but as not compatible and does not have pad support what's the point of using that one).
More info if want yourself - The version is v1.5.01 but was offered as a free exclusive offer on the Samsung app store (not sure if same version still on the market but you may be able to find elsewhere).
I belive this version was used also for Samsung to demo there new external controller but it works perfectly with any HID controller (Need to change to the controller option in the settings to activate it)
EDIT - Here's the version demoed at a show (Video) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZyUOgT8RAM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Just wish E.A would make controller support a mandatory option in all there games as seams them and Square Enix are the last big company developers to see that people want to play with other options then just touchscreen.
Hope by this helps
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Deu5Vult said:
I'm pretty sure I downloaded it through Sony Select when the EA Games 90 Days for Free offer was on, though I can't see it listed now. The Google Play version is still incompatible with the Z, as you probably know.
The 90 days offer must have expired as I just paid another £5 to continue playing it on my Z...and still without joypad support (I must be mad).
You could try the method in this link, though I can't vouch for whether it works or not:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2275862
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Yeah the build prop edit doesn't work anymore. You can download it and all, but it will crash:s

Reaper is the game that's been taking up my time! Amazing little RPG and it looks great! You guys should definitely play it when you get a chance if you haven't already!