Ebay - Nexus S General

Until now this is the best buy it now offer i found on ebay....it is a lot cheaper than the price sold in UK.....also looking at the prices i think if the supply is enough the price of Nexus S will drop quite quickly.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Google-Nexu...ell_Phones&hash=item19c1bda4d0#ht_2351wt_1139

Auctions are slightly cheaper.
$631 + $40 shipping.
$612 + $75.95 shipping.

DJTaurus said:
Until now this is the best buy it now offer i found on ebay....it is a lot cheaper than the price sold in UK.....also looking at the prices i think if the supply is enough the price of Nexus S will drop quite quickly.
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And what about customs?

bob.zxr said:
And what about customs?
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Indeed, customs and tax would probably be about £60 on top of those prices.
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Why would anyone pay this much on eBay? Released tomorrow for $529.

hah2110 said:
Why would anyone pay this much on eBay? Released tomorrow for $529.
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Europe it costs about 830 USD

Marketplace will have a few for sale or trade, trust me.

hah2110 said:
Why would anyone pay this much on eBay? Released tomorrow for $529.
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Because "Best" Buy has put an embargo on exports to Europe - "known freight forwarders" included. This idiotic policy leads to black market prices here.
Distribution FAIL, Google!

umbrella42 said:
Because "Best" Buy has put an embargo on exports to Europe - "known freight forwarders" included. This idiotic policy leads to black market prices here.
Distribution FAIL, Google!
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Amen. F*ckn stupid.

What do you guys think is a fair price to sell the NS on eBay for including shipping?
Don't forget about eBay and PayPal fees.

touchpro247 said:
What do you guys think is a fair price to sell the NS on eBay for including shipping?
Don't forget about eBay and PayPal fees.
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Shipping where? Next door or overseas? There might be a tiny difference.
What would be a decent markup, excluding shipping? There's little point in selling it on for a meagre $10 profit. As a buyer, I don't think I'd pay more than $50 extra, which gives $579 + shipping. What are the fees on that?

touchpro247 said:
What do you guys think is a fair price to sell the NS on eBay for including shipping?
Don't forget about eBay and PayPal fees.
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The problem is: There is no fair price because of those fees and taxes. When I get the phone for $670 (shipment incl.) on eBay, I have to pay another 19% VAT for importing the phone to Europe.
So here we are:
$529 at "Best" Buy
$700 using a "known freight forwarder" (forbidden by "Best" Buy)
$800 via eBay.
That's what I call "black market prices".

umbrella42 said:
The problem is: There is no fair price because of those fees and taxes. When I get the phone for $670 (shipment incl.) on eBay, I have to pay another 19% VAT for importing the phone to Europe.
So here we are:
$529 at "Best" Buy
$700 using a "known freight forwarder" (forbidden by "Best" Buy)
$800 via eBay.
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But the $529 is without taxes. Add your 19% VAT and it's $630. If you wait until it's being sold locally, the local store price would be $630 or more. Whatever you pay on top of that is for the privilege of getting the phone before it's officially for sale.
Have you seen the official UK prices?

shrivelfig said:
But the $529 is without taxes. Add your 19% VAT and it's $630. If you wait until it's being sold locally, the local store price would be $630 or more. Whatever you pay on top of that is for the privilege of getting the phone before it's officially for sale.
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Yes, this is true. ($529 is without intl shipping too ... )
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Have you seen the official UK prices?
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As an Englishmen I would prefer to order this phone in U.S. anyways considering the $865(!!) they have to pay at CarPhoneMuchoExpensive.

shrivelfig said:
Shipping where? Next door or overseas? There might be a tiny difference.
What would be a decent markup, excluding shipping? There's little point in selling it on for a meagre $10 profit. As a buyer, I don't think I'd pay more than $50 extra, which gives $579 + shipping. What are the fees on that?
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I was thinking overseas.
eBay
Here's an example of a final value fee calculation for an auction-style listing:
You sell an item for $100.00.
Your final value fee is 9% of the final sale price, which is $9.00.
The maximum final value fee for auction-style listings is $50. For example, if you sell an item for $1,000, you’ll pay only $50, even though 9% of $1,000 is $90.
PayPal
There is a fee to send money as a personal payment using a debit card or credit card. The fee in the U.S. is 2.9% plus $0.30 USD of the amount you send. For example, if you send $100.00 USD by credit card, the fee would be $3.20 USD ($2.90 + $0.30). For personal payments, the sender can pay the fee or pass it on to the recipient. If the recipient doesn't want to pay the fee, they can choose not to accept the payment.
When you sell through ebay the seller takes on this cost which is about $19.20.

So my $579 phone would actually cost $50 just in eBay fees?

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So my $579 phone would actually cost $50 just in eBay fees?
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Yep, plus shipping. So that's $629.00 plus. The seller only makes around $30.00 bucks off this deal because of the $19.20 PayPal fee unless they pass the cost on to you. If that because BestBuy charges tax (Or maybe not) 6.5% here on top of the $529.
That's the cheapest I've seen one go for on eBay actually: http://cgi.ebay.com/Google-Nexus-S-...0711263301?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item33636a9c45
What does shipping cost?

touchpro247 said:
Yep, plus shipping. So that's $629.00 plus.
That's the cheapest I've seen one go for on eBay actually.
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Well, eBay's a bit crazy right now.
I wonder what the magic price point is, where the profit equals the fees, so that the seller receives exactly $529. Now, where's that durned spreadsheet ...
What does shipping cost?
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International shipping varies from $38 to $78, it seems.

touchpro247 said:
Yep, plus shipping. So that's $629.00 plus. The seller only makes around $30.00 bucks off this deal because of the $19.20 PayPal fee unless they pass the cost on to you. If that because BestBuy charges tax (Or maybe not) 6.5% here on top of the $529.
That's the cheapest I've seen one go for on eBay actually: http://cgi.ebay.com/Google-Nexus-S-...0711263301?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item33636a9c45
What does shipping cost?
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One cheaper, this is mine $600
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...tFvAYEY%3D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK:MEWNX:IT

shrivelfig said:
Well, eBay's a bit crazy right now.
I wonder what the magic price point is, where the profit equals the fees, so that the seller receives exactly $529. Now, where's that durned spreadsheet ...
International shipping varies from $38 to $78, it seems.
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$529(phone price)+$50(eBay fee)+$19.20(PayPal fee)+$38 to $79(International shipping varies)= $628.20 to $668.20 now add taxes to that.
Lets say $650 shipped is a great deal and that's with no money being made.*

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So what is the lowes price so far?

There were a number of topics on this but they all have been pushed far down.
So what is the lowest price at the moment? And from whom?
Here in the Netherlands, you can get one for €470 total, by using a 0-minute 12months subscription from KPN. That's a one-time €320 purchase and 12 months of €12.50.
Not bad eh?
But you probably don't live here anyway...
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There were a number of topics on this but they all have been pushed far down.
So what is the lowest price at the moment? And from whom?
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Just been told by an HTC dealer in London they are about to increase to £549 sim free due to the dollar. I paid £529 last week.
IceEyz said:
Here in the Netherlands, you can get one for €470 total, by using a 0-minute 12months subscription from KPN. That's a one-time €320 purchase and 12 months of €12.50.
Not bad eh?
But you probably don't live here anyway...
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Nop... I'm looking for sim free and those that can delivered to the US.
Paid 505 pounds including shipping for mine. Getting it tomorrow
Paid £450 for mine.. then again I managed to get it at cost price due to 'connections' (no not dodgy)
But the cheapest OFFICIAL place is via play.com if you use a 5% off code = £475 delivered
£120 + 12 months £30 contract, minus £40 quidco = £440
Needed a new contract anyway, so pretty good timing.
I'm in the UK and got it sim free for £506 (about 605 euros) incl del from www.insight.com/uk
Got mine from X1838 on Ebay and it came to $650 shipped to the USA when I used the live.com cashback. And it arrived really fast, ordered on thursday, received monday morning.
If you wait a little bit I bet using the same kind of deal i'm sureyou can get it for $600 shipped. Not too shabby, eh?
I got it for $470 after 25% live.com cashback and 10% paypal coupon.
There is a seller on ebay who is putting them up for 722.45, which seems to be the cheapest of all vendors.
Only £474.99 Delivered (Sim Free)
http://www.laughingdeals.com/all-de...cked-mobile-phone-pound-549.99-delivered.html
Play.com have changed the price of this handset a few times - it was £549, then £499, then went back up to £519 before coming down again.
£474.99 is the price you pay after the RAC discount voucher.
Got it for €545 sim-free (italian rom) on nanolandia.net
That would be £455 or $686.
KSoujiro said:
I got it for $470 after 25% live.com cashback and 10% paypal coupon.
There is a seller on ebay who is putting them up for 722.45, which seems to be the cheapest of all vendors.
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Not sure I understand how do you do this thing with live.com? Can you give more details, if you don't want to put it here please PM me. Thanks
well that was easy, did your cashback showed up in your MS account right away or after some time?
I got my HD for 475 pounds including tax and delivery. If that is what we are talking about.
I would coinsider selling mine at cist if anybody here wants one.
ryaninuk said:
I would coinsider selling mine at cist if anybody here wants one.
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may I ask why?
obender said:
Not sure I understand how do you do this thing with live.com? Can you give more details, if you don't want to put it here please PM me. Thanks
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i ask my self the same question,
what are the steps to do the live.com thing... i do have the 10% paypal thing so i guess it should be used on this
whats the live.com procedure ?
edit: well just went to live.com then it took me to ebay and yeah its all clearly stated in the t&c once you click on the image for microsoft cashbacks
475 quid. If it is unlocked and you aren't using some shady source or connected that's about what it is worth.
423 pounds from Handtec - no VAT seeing I live in Australia

Bargain price for a n1 or what?

hey guys,
I'm from canada, where the nexus 1 has not been released, so I found a person who's selling a 1 week old nexus one for 625 dollars. Is it a bargain or what?
Anything less that the £420 i paid in total for mine i'd consider a bargain
£420 = $636 USD
$655 Canadian
htc fan89 said:
hey guys,
I'm from canada, where the nexus 1 has not been released, so I found a person who's selling a 1 week old nexus one for 625 dollars. Is it a bargain or what?
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Is that cheaper shipped than you can get it retail? Not sure what sort of duty you pay having it shipped into Canada.
lol, it got sold missed it
Order it yourself using this:
http://www.demailbox.com/
It'll cost you their fee (probably about $10), whatever shipping method you choose to canada and canadian tax.
You won't pay US tax, nor US shipping since its free. So it'll be $528 + $10 + shipping + tax
Which is only $10 more than it would cost you if google did ship to canada!
There are loads of other 'virtual US' mailbox services you can use. Just be carefull to choose one in a state that doesnt have US sales tax, or you'll pay US tax AND canadian tax.

A whopping $850+ for International version in Canada!!

Is it me or are people paying over $850 for the international version of the S3?!?!
That's crazy, the 32GB is $930+ ...
I was hoping the ISPs would carry so I would only have to pay around $200 with contract, and now I'm never going to get one :'(
Whatta hell Bell Canada!
xoltrix2000 said:
Is it me or are people paying over $850 for the international version of the S3?!?!
That's crazy, the 32GB is $930+ ...
I was hoping the ISPs would carry so I would only have to pay around $200 with contract, and now I'm never going to get one :'(
Whatta hell Bell Canada!
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If they are paying that much, they don't need to be.
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I ordered mine from Handtec for $715 all in, not including import taxes. Still really expensive, but I paid the same for the SII on release.
Mine will run me approximately $760 after taxes and fees imported from clove.co.uk
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Hola
You must realize that for some (myself included) it is just easier to buy off someone/business that will have it locally than to worry about shipment issues, delays, taxes etc.
As far as I can see, the average price for the international version 16GB is between CAN$720 and $750, add shipping and ON/BC HST on top and you're looking at way over $800. Plus most of these folks on kijiji and craigslist that are selling this, they do it for small profit.
I am patiently waiting for the blue colored one and I go through a great phone importer from BC, i.e. MobileDNA. Those guys are great with the numerous transactions that I have done with them over the years.
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Hola
You must realize that for some (myself included) it is just easier to buy off someone/business that will have it locally than to worry about shipment issues, delays, taxes etc.
As far as I can see, the average price for the international version 16GB is between CAN$720 and $750, add shipping and ON/BC HST on top and you're looking at way over $800. Plus most of these folks on kijiji and craigslist that are selling this, they do it for small profit.
I am patiently waiting for the blue colored one and I go through a great phone importer from BC, i.e. MobileDNA. Those guys are great with the numerous transactions that I have done with them over the years.
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$670 - $695 is what I'm seeing before taxes and shipping from places like Clove, Handtec, and Expansys USA.
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Yeah but I wonder what the import/duty fee's will cost? I bought the Nexus One and it cost me about 120$ on a 550$, so I'm assuming if you buy it for $720, you'll end up paying another 200$ for fees!!!
xoltrix2000 said:
Yeah but I wonder what the import/duty fee's will cost? I bought the Nexus One and it cost me about 120$ on a 550$, so I'm assuming if you buy it for $720, you'll end up paying another 200$ for fees!!!
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There shouldn't be duty, just the taxes.
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There shouldn't be duty, just the taxes.
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Not all sites charge taxes, in that case you will end up paying taxes.
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QAM said:
Hola
You must realize that for some (myself included) it is just easier to buy off someone/business that will have it locally than to worry about shipment issues, delays, taxes etc.
As far as I can see, the average price for the international version 16GB is between CAN$720 and $750, add shipping and ON/BC HST on top and you're looking at way over $800. Plus most of these folks on kijiji and craigslist that are selling this, they do it for small profit.
I am patiently waiting for the blue colored one and I go through a great phone importer from BC, i.e. MobileDNA. Those guys are great with the numerous transactions that I have done with them over the years.
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That's where I got my Galaxy Note (they served me well). What kind of price did you get from them? I emailed them just a moment ago.
ya, ive ordered my last couple phones from handtec (HD2, S2, S3) and they've all come up to around the same price of $700 after shipping.
But since i live in Ontario, the tax gets me hard and is usually around $100 once the package comes from FedEX - making it a total of $800
ya its steep, but im such a sucker for new phones so ya.
You're looking at ~$800 if you live in Ontario - other places in Canada will have cheaper tax so you'll pay a bit less
Hola
I have bought from Handtec myself. My greatest concerns were always about getting warranty on these high-end devices. As you would know IF something was wrong with the phone, shipping it back to the UK was required, this in itself was stress. I saw a few posts here when the S2 was originally launched that some folks had to ship it back, and then wait like a few weeks before getting back a replacement. I wanted to avoid this potential issue and hence looked for a Canadian distributor to handle this stuff.
Interestingly the only reputable company I found was way out west in BC... hence I now buy all my latest phones through them.
Killing me to know that I have to wait on the blue colored version until next week or so.
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Hola
I have bought from Handtec myself. My greatest concerns were always about getting warranty on these high-end devices. As you would know IF something was wrong with the phone, shipping it back to the UK was required, this in itself was stress. I saw a few posts here when the S2 was originally launched that some folks had to ship it back, and then wait like a few weeks before getting back a replacement. I wanted to avoid this potential issue and hence looked for a Canadian distributor to handle this stuff.
Interestingly the only reputable company I found was way out west in BC... hence I now buy all my latest phones through them.
Killing me to know that I have to wait on the blue colored version until next week or so.
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what company is that if i may ask?
if the price is right i'd consider buying from a canadian distributor as well instead of a UK one
xoltrix2000 said:
Yeah but I wonder what the import/duty fee's will cost? I bought the Nexus One and it cost me about 120$ on a 550$, so I'm assuming if you buy it for $720, you'll end up paying another 200$ for fees!!!
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I got mine from HK $799 plus $10 fedex overnight and only paid $22 for charges at the door .

Im looking to buy AT&T Galaxy S III but from where?

Where is the best place to buy the phone without a contract?
I'm probably going to buy from negri do they have any coupons or anything before I pull the trigger for $634...
I cant wait to get this phone!!!!!
after looking online myself. I have target has the phone through amazon for only $150. any other good places, I might have to pay tax there.
rayoubi said:
Where is the best place to buy the phone without a contract?
I'm probably going to buy from negri do they have any coupons or anything before I pull the trigger for $634...
I cant wait to get this phone!!!!!
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I never got it why people buy from negri. Their prices are ridiculous.
Totòòò said:
I never got it why people buy from negri. Their prices are ridiculous.
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How so?
Without a contract negri is one the cheapest places you get a phone without a contract even cheaper then amazon most times. They also give you a one year warranty......
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I never got it why people buy from negri. Their prices are ridiculous.
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I pre ordered mine from them and they have the cheapest price online, I couldn't order it from anywhere else since I am in Canada and most sites only ship to USA, also if you want 15$ discount use DADNGRAD15 coupon
Negri seems to have the best price, I couldn't find an Unlocked AT&T anywhere else. Not even on Amazon.
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How so?
Without a contract negri is one the cheapest places you get a phone without a contract even cheaper then amazon most times. They also give you a one year warranty......
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No its not. Have you seen how much they are selling the Galaxy s3 international version? Right noe it is at 739$ for the 16 gig models when most online retailers charge 699$ Max.
http://negrielectronics.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=samsung+galaxy+s+3
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any other places?
Looking for good place to buy this phone.
might want to check the apple store. haha
anyway, your best bet is expansys or Negri. I had goo experiences with Negri, plus they take care of you if you need warranty support.
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any other places?
Looking for good place to buy this phone.
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you can buy the s3 direct form att for $549
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you can buy the s3 direct form att for $549
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so much tax tho
rayoubi said:
after looking online myself. I have target has the phone through amazon for only $150. any other good places, I might have to pay tax there.
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if it was 150 without a contract...they definitively would be back ordered within minutes!
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rayoubi said:
Where is the best place to buy the phone without a contract?
I'm probably going to buy from negri do they have any coupons or anything before I pull the trigger for $634...
I cant wait to get this phone!!!!!
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Either buy from BestBuy AT&T or a craigslist ad dont go any higher than $550...AT&T sells from 550
No sales tax in the Virgin Islands. Woot
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so much tax tho
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Our sales tax here is 6%, so for me the $550 becomes a total of $582. That's still less than anywhere else I've found on line by a long shot. Oh, and I confirmed with my local Best Buy that they WILL price match AT&T at $550. So that might be another option.
$649 for no contract or $149 for individual upgrade at Amazon, but they don't charge tax do they? Or I guess it depends on the state your in.
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EDIT: it's now $549 for no contract.
best price is free as in beer
AT&T has best no-commit price. And after awhile there will be eBay offering around the same price and without tax. So... Weigh your options, and see. It is time vs money.
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No sales tax in the Virgin Islands. Woot
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Lucky you.
KentuckyHouse said:
Our sales tax here is 6%, so for me the $550 becomes a total of $582. That's still less than anywhere else I've found on line by a long shot. Oh, and I confirmed with my local Best Buy that they WILL price match AT&T at $550. So that might be another option.
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Yeah thats not too bad. I would buy it at that price. Why buy from bestbuy, then buy directly from the carrier, ur still going to pay tax for ATT or bestbuy right?
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$649 for no contract or $149 for individual upgrade at Amazon, but they don't charge tax do they? Or I guess it depends on the state your in.
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I dont pay tax for amazon. But buying from ATT and paying tax is still cheaper then amazon.
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AT&T has best no-commit price. And after awhile there will be eBay offering around the same price and without tax. So... Weigh your options, and see. It is time vs money.
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What? how can you not pay for tax from bestbuy?
Lol by me its 9.75% tax
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Lol by me its 9.75% tax
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Where do you live LA
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Where do you live LA
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No in Tinley park illinois
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Explain this to me........

Allright now the canadian dollar is worth more than the american dollar so why is the nexus 4 more expensive. Shouldnt it be cheaper? Now its 359 for the 16gb version right and fricking taxes and shipping make it 416$! so pissed.
FaDeGFX said:
Allright now the canadian dollar is worth more than the american dollar so why is the nexus 4 more expensive. Shouldnt it be cheaper? Now its 359 for the 16gb version right and fricking taxes and shipping make it 416$! so pissed.
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Don't care? Check.
Ask your government, it probably costs extra since it comes from the US.
Either that or Google doesn't like you guys.
Because Cell-phone market is more stable than Stock Market.
Also it doesn't matter how much the cell-phone cost is in one country and compared to other. There may be extra charges like custom duty, tax, and VAT. Thus the price may increase
Currency isn't the only factor involved in pricing.
with google its not so bad but many other companies price hike in different regions; best example i can give is here in australia photoshop is twice the price that it is in the US but our dollar is worth more than the american dollar ......how that makes sense i dont know.
with Google play however its probably added import costs and taxes added to the price $416 is about the same as what we pay in Australia after shipping + tax and i believe US price is like $385-$395 inc tax + shipping so the price difference is pretty close so i don't think its a case of Google screwing regions over.
Probably because it ships from the US into Canada, then there's also tariffs and whatnot. RIM is based in Canada so methinks they really do have an Apple and Android tax.
And in Europe it costs 349 Euro, they just exchanged the currency symbol and added 10 CAD Dollar more.
So basically the unit costs 362 USD in Canada which is still cheaper then Europe with 459 USD (349 Euro)
FaDeGFX said:
Allright now the canadian dollar is worth more than the american dollar so why is the nexus 4 more expensive. Shouldnt it be cheaper? Now its 359 for the 16gb version right and fricking taxes and shipping make it 416$! so pissed.
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This is the case with every item sold in Canada. No idea why you think google would price it different. And are you really complaining about the price of the phone being 415 after taxes, find me another phone with the same specs that less than $600 after tax.
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customs, and all other crap
It's nine dollars more... I mean.. c'mon.
It's because in the LONG term the US dollar is worth more.
rascalz1504 said:
This is the case with every item sold in Canada. No idea why you think google would price it different. And are you really complaining about the price of the phone being 415 after taxes, find me another phone with the same specs that less than $600 after tax.
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Im sorry that im complaining about that much money, i dont have much. If you do please give me some.....douchebag.
The price it is set, is determined by not only currency costs, but also factors such as transportation costs, tariffs (although there is no apple or android tax), in some cases the necessity to have French on it as well. There are many reasons, and simply put we are talk about less than 10$. As it relates to this case, I doubt there is an international tax/tariff, Google has a Toronto office where these phones are from, they are shipped from Kentucky, and no duties are applied, which suggests they are covered under NAFTA.
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Im sorry that im complaining about that much money, i dont have much. If you do please give me some.....douchebag.
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Then perhaps you should find a different phone with cheaper price instead of complaining here. No one will help you with that attitude.
If i calculated correctly for my province(~15% federal tax+Qc provincial tax) i pay 412 before shipping... besides aren't you used to it yet? We keep getting screwed over on pricing for so many things in Canada its life (although I'm sure other places have it worse) I'm not rly complaining since I'm still gonna get it and brag to all my friends lol its still a pretty good price for a phone like this can't wait (for it to come back on Play store and I can order lol)
In Alberta...I paid $392 all in
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I paid 470 US$ in Germany for the 16gb, stop whining about a few bucks. Europe gets screwed a lot more than you by exchanging currency 1:1 despite an exchange rate of $1.3=1€...
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Yeah there are some sort of extra fees charged as well, whether it be tarrifs or import taxes, etc. The Nexus4 costing $9 more here is actually quite good compared with the iPads that cost $20 more, and the iPhone5's that cost a whopping $50 more. $50 more, seriously... I'm just happy the Nexus4 is a minute $9 more.

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