OK if Vibrant works on AT&T will Nexus S?? - Nexus S General

So i am wondering if the Vibrant picks up the AT&T 1900 MHZ will the Nexus S being that its essentially the same phone?

Point me to the Nexus S FCC filings and I'll tell ya.

I wish I had that lol I am getting it 99% with or without the 3G because im on wifi so often but it would be a sweet plus if it would pick up 3G like the vibrant my are is completely covered in 1900MHZ

I dunno how to read through these things, but I hope they help:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=254135&fcc_id='A3LGTI9020'
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...=N&application_id=149533&fcc_id='A3LGTI9020T'
AndeaCristiano said:
I wish I had that lol I am getting it 99% with or without the 3G because im on wifi so often but it would be a sweet plus if it would pick up 3G like the vibrant my are is completely covered in 1900MHZ
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hd2 data sucks update needed

we need a update asap i can not keep 3g or even edge at all htc must know about this i will be calling them i hope others will follow
if you're using a old sim card you might want to get a new one. a rep told me that they got new sims that might help.
I have 2 new sim cards in both my HD2 phones. Same issue. I have installed s2u2 and on the slide unlock screen I see it switch from H to 3G over and over all day no matter where I am. I really do think something is seriously wrong with these phones and/or the nework. Does anyone else on T-Mobile with s2u2 installed see the same thing. We need to gather enough information to send to T-Mobile and HTC so they will see how serious this issue is. Thank You! )
kevev said:
I have 2 new sim cards in both my HD2 phones. Same issue. I have installed s2u2 and on the slide unlock screen I see it switch from H to 3G over and over all day no matter where I am. I really do think something is seriously wrong with these phones and/or the nework. Does anyone else on T-Mobile with s2u2 installed see the same thing. We need to gather enough information to send to T-Mobile and HTC so they will see how serious this issue is. Thank You! )
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Switching from H to 3G is good... you're getting great speeds then. I can only get edge inside my house. It's not the HD2 that the problem... it's t-mobiles coverage. the 1700mhz band does not go through walls or barriers nearly as well as at&ts 850mhz band.
I've been email HTC about my issues with my phone and the only thing they really say is to remove any 3rd party application and soft reset.. And they also say to contact T-mobile with any further issues.. Like they know how to fix it?
zarathustrax said:
Switching from H to 3G is good... you're getting great speeds then. I can only get edge inside my house. It's not the HD2 that the problem... it's t-mobiles coverage. the 1700mhz band does not go through walls or barriers nearly as well as at&ts 850mhz band.
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Oh that sucks. Do you at least have wifi @ home?
That is true about the 1700 Mhz, but AT&T 3G is mostly 1900Mhz and 850Mhz in very few places so I would expect them to have the same issue but they don't. I think T-Mobile may have the tower spread apart farther than ATT. But who knows.
calling tmobile is useless I tried that 3 times already and I only get excuses like the tower its down or im in a weird area so im just confused I know the network suck s but not this bad.
ihearttreo said:
if you're using a old sim card you might want to get a new one. a rep told me that they got new sims that might help.
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Only idiot thinks it is related SIM.
TMO CSRs are famous dumbs!
My HTC Dream gets better reception than the HTC HD2 in areas of weak reception (1-3bars). The HTC Dream got a radio update a month ago that helped it improve reception. I'm hoping for a similar radio update to the HD2.
I don't care too much about poor reception, as long as it can maintain the 1-2bars and not drop the call. The HTC Dream is better than the HD2 at maintaining a weak reception. I get full bars and 3G outside, while indoors in my 'fortress' I only get 1-2 bars.
I called and told them about the bad reception on the HD2 (compared to the HTC Dream. I was to try to manually set the network to check. I wasn't at the same location so I couldn't try during the call. I tried later and the reception didn't seem to improve. I'll be calling back and seeing if a request/problem report could be submitted for their techs.
kevev said:
Oh that sucks. Do you at least have wifi @ home?
That is true about the 1700 Mhz, but AT&T 3G is mostly 1900Mhz and 850Mhz in very few places so I would expect them to have the same issue but they don't. I think T-Mobile may have the tower spread apart farther than ATT. But who knows.
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Actually at&t have been moving all there 3g from 1900 to 850, and I beleive at this point they are mostly 850mhz. They plan to switch it all to 850 eventually.
zarathustrax said:
Switching from H to 3G is good... you're getting great speeds then. I can only get edge inside my house. It's not the HD2 that the problem... it's t-mobiles coverage. the 1700mhz band does not go through walls or barriers nearly as well as at&ts 850mhz band.
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Same issue here. Edge in the house. As soon as I go outside, I'm on 3G/H.

4glte for incredible?

soooo incredible capable of getting 4g?
no. no hardware for it
That's just wrong. I wont even get update on a new phone for a while. Oh well.
It's not...wrong. 4G requires a new piece of radio hardware to be installed in the phone...besides the fact that Verizon hasn't even lit up the country with LTE yet, let alone 7 months ago when the phone first game out.
dadsterflip said:
That's just wrong. I wont even get update on a new phone for a while. Oh well.
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how is that wrong? you bought a 3g phone not a lte ready phone, I won't be succumbing to any 4g phones til I'm guaranteed to have the service in my area...plus it's not even on yet for us so why would it
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Its not wrong. Just wanted to see how many people would cry.
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Plus just didn't know how exactly that 4glte and 3g works so. Thought it was just software upgrade
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Thought it was just software upgrade
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lol really?..
Everybody says it is impossible. I say it is but won't happen. "LTE" is not 4G. It is 3.5G, just like sprint does not have 4G, They have 3.5G. If they had true 4G. We would be looking at speeds as fast as out home internet now. LTE runs on a 700mhz band if I am correct. The Radio in both the EVO and Dinc are a qualcomm radio. Which by verizon is set to receive signal at 800mhz and 1900mhz. There is no reason why they can not send out a radio and antenna update to make it also run at 700mhz too. But that is my two cents. this is always what I have thought.
I would like for this to be true.
Can this be true? Please?
Hanneman101101 said:
Everybody says it is impossible. I say it is but won't happen. "LTE" is not 4G. It is 3.5G, just like sprint does not have 4G, They have 3.5G. If they had true 4G. We would be looking at speeds as fast as out home internet now. LTE runs on a 700mhz band if I am correct. The Radio in both the EVO and Dinc are a qualcomm radio. Which by verizon is set to receive signal at 800mhz and 1900mhz. There is no reason why they can not send out a radio and antenna update to make it also run at 700mhz too. But that is my two cents. this is always what I have thought.
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Hanneman101101 said:
Everybody says it is impossible. I say it is but won't happen. "LTE" is not 4G. It is 3.5G, just like sprint does not have 4G, They have 3.5G. If they had true 4G. We would be looking at speeds as fast as out home internet now. LTE runs on a 700mhz band if I am correct. The Radio in both the EVO and Dinc are a qualcomm radio. Which by verizon is set to receive signal at 800mhz and 1900mhz. There is no reason why they can not send out a radio and antenna update to make it also run at 700mhz too. But that is my two cents. this is always what I have thought.
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Wish we had more smarter people like you and looking more positive than crying about oh no we can't have this and that.
Berzerker7 said:
It's not...wrong. 4G requires a new piece of radio hardware to be installed in the phone...besides the fact that Verizon hasn't even lit up the country with LTE yet, let alone 7 months ago when the phone first game out.
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Read the last post and say whaaat.
Hanneman101101 said:
Everybody says it is impossible. I say it is but won't happen. "LTE" is not 4G. It is 3.5G, just like sprint does not have 4G, They have 3.5G. If they had true 4G. We would be looking at speeds as fast as out home internet now. LTE runs on a 700mhz band if I am correct. The Radio in both the EVO and Dinc are a qualcomm radio. Which by verizon is set to receive signal at 800mhz and 1900mhz. There is no reason why they can not send out a radio and antenna update to make it also run at 700mhz too. But that is my two cents. this is always what I have thought.
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well, unless you have something to back up your claim that a software update will enable 4g...excuse me, 3.5g, then your basically talking out your ass. no offense intended, just back up your claims
LTE is actually different from 4G... Look into it and you will see Verizon is claiming that LTE will run at least 3x faster than 4G. Whether they can back up those claims has yet to be seen.
dadsterflip said:
Wish we had more smarter people like you and looking more positive than crying about oh no we can't have this and that.
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More smart people blowing smoke??? If so I prefer the idiot who has facts.
Im not calling the guy who posted that info an idiot as he specifically said its just what he thought.
Contribute something before saying we need more of the smarter people.
LTE Testing and "G" question
Ok for the 1st thing about radios and software or hardware, as an RF engineer I can say that if the stripline rf sections are capeable of being tuned far enough to run the 700MHZ band, and I will confirm that VZW LTE is in that band as we are running it now, the protocols are different so I do not beleive the chipset will be flashable to run it. They may have indeed looked forward enough to make it so but I have no specific knowledge of it, except that VZW is going to release an LTE version that is in the EVO case but with LTE instead of WI-MAX, good news because front cam and everything. A history lession though is that I have an old HTC PPC5050 in my collection that was an evaluation unit for Sprint back before the 6600 came out and was never accepted and released. This thing had a GPS hump on top of it that really worked when everyone else was AGPS only, and in the spec was EVDO before Sprint even had it. I used it in the first tests of EVDO at ACS in Anchorage and it worked, the first EVDO smart phone and it was never let out, so some strange stuff does happen, I just do not think VZW would have motivation to flash LTE if they could, but just my opinion, could be wrong.
The "G" thing is more company hype and advertising than anything else. LTE is getting 20-35 MBPS with nobody else on it so when it is public, shared, groomed, and throttled who knows but I know it will whip WI-MAX ;-)
It Won't Happen..
LTE Will Require A Sort Of Sim Card...Droid Incredible Has No Sim Card Port. So We Won't Have LTE
You guys make me laugh.
Ill just end up buying a phone that's capable of doing it. Maybe incredible HD.
dadsterflip said:
You guys make me laugh.
Ill just end up buying a phone that's capable of doing it. Maybe incredible HD.
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It will be a few months before there are any LTE capable handsets on the market. Even then, unless you live in one of the handful of cities that will have LTE next year, you'll simply just be using 3G.
najaboy said:
It will be a few months before there are any LTE capable handsets on the market. Even then, unless you live in one of the handful of cities that will have LTE next year, you'll simply just be using 3G.
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i live in LA. so.

At&t 850hz on rooted? Possible?

Has anyone with a rooted nexus s managed to enable the at&t frequencies? 850hz? is it possible physically (is there a 3g 850hz frequency built in?)
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joesixpack1969 said:
Has anyone with a rooted nexus s managed to enable the at&t frequencies? 850hz? is it possible physically (is there a 3g 850hz frequency built in?)
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3G on this first version of the Nexus S (assuming they come out with an HSPA version as well like they did for the N1) supports 900, 1700, and 2100 MHz. The onboard hardware does not support 850hz / 1900hz.
That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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joesixpack1969 said:
That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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I'm pretty sure it was intentional. It would be in Google's best interest to have all bands so that they wouldn't need to release multiple versions like with the N1. They likely have a deal with T-Mo
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That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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5 and 6 band HSPA radios are still quite uncommon. I can only think of one or two devices on the market that use them.
It is just life. Send them feedback and tell them you want an 850/1900 version.
Just wait for the Nexus S to come out on ATT, I seriously doubt Google is going to make the Nexus S strictly Tmobile. Tmobile makes up less than 10% of all cell phones, would be kind of stupid...
Why does it say quad band with 850hz here? http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
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That's GSM - you can make calls and get 2G (EDGE) data just fine on AT&T with the Nexus S... but would you want to? =)
joesixpack1969 said:
Why does it say quad band with 850hz here? http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
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Its not googles' fault. A long time ago the US gsm providers decided to add a download chanel to 3g gsm so that users couldn't take their phone from one provider to another and so the could not import phones in from europe. You can take a phone from att or tmo and it will do 3g on any european gsm provider you chose. However no normal european gsm phone will do 3g in the us. They lack the second download chanel. So don't complain about google, it was the providers that made a conscious decision to muck it up.
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dimes-jth said:
Its not googles' fault. A long time ago the US gsm providers decided to add a download chanel to 3g gsm so that users couldn't take their phone from one provider to another and so the could not import phones in from europe. You can take a phone from att or tmo and it will do 3g on any european gsm provider you chose. However no normal european gsm phone will do 3g in the us. They lack the second download chanel. So don't complain about google, it was the providers that made a conscious decision to muck it up.
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That's 100% true!!! Plus the batter life would be horrific with all those signals, and a bigger antenna! LOL
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I'm on ATT
I hate the EDGE speeds but there is nothing else we can do. I currently carry around my Nexus One with this one to use as a hotspot. Google will probably release another version within a couple months as they did with the N1. Hopefully they will cause tethering all the time is awesome to show off but cumbersome all at the same time
I picked up the nexus s yesterday. Love the phone compared to my Captivate on Cognition but EDGE is really hampering the experience.
petep86 said:
That's 100% true!!! Plus the batter life would be horrific with all those signals, and a bigger antenna! LOL
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Nokia managed to design a pentaband 3G (5 different 3G bands, 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz) phone, the N8 and it has no problems AFAIK. Samsung probably doesn't have the knowledge or talent to design a pentaband 3G device though.
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
distortedloop said:
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
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At&t does not use 3g on 1900mhz everywhere. In fact, a major AT&T initiative in the past few years was to move 3g to the 850 band everywhere possible in order to enhance indoor signal strength.
A phone that can only do 3g on 1900mhz is not a nationwide solution for AT&T, coverage is quite hit or miss.
distortedloop said:
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
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Check the nexus s specs again. It does not have 1900mHz 3g in any form at all like the vibrant.
It only has 900, 1700, 2100.
RogerPodacter said:
Check the nexus s specs again. It does not have 1900mHz 3g in any form at all like the vibrant.
It only has 900, 1700, 2100.
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Re-read my post, and the post I was responding to again.
I never said that the Nexus S supports 850/900, I was telling a guy who said Samsung didn't know how to make such a phone that he was incorrect because Samsung has already made such a phone (the Vibrant which supports both AWS/1700/1900/2100 on the UMTS side).
Ironic that you're telling me to re-read something when you should have done the same before correcting me.
Peace!
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At&t does not use 3g on 1900mhz everywhere. In fact, a major AT&T initiative in the past few years was to move 3g to the 850 band everywhere possible in order to enhance indoor signal strength.
A phone that can only do 3g on 1900mhz is not a nationwide solution for AT&T, coverage is quite hit or miss.
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Yes, I'm well aware of this, but if you're in any major metro area where AT&T has been offering 3G service for a couple of years or more, 1900 is likely available to you. 850 is in far fewer areas, isn't it? It's only a recent addition to San Francisco as I recall.
1900 support in the Nexus S would have made it much more attractive to me, and a viable AT&T alternative for many across much of the country, but I'll concede that 850/1900 would be necessary to address the whole nation.
I see I mis read your post thinking it meant it had 1900.

Unlocked on T-Mobile

There seems to be some confusion about this phone working on T-Mobile 4g
YES THE PHONE WORKS!! however if you want 4g you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area and yes LTE works as well.
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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I would like to confirm that the Unlocked 32GB HTC One works perfectly in Phoenix, AZ as well. We're another 1900MHz refarm, and I've spotted LTE in some areas as well. Don't be afraid to grab this from HTC rather than dealing with T-Mobile's shinanigans and bloatware.
I'm in the boston area, which is also refarmed. pretty much same experience as op. all the set up was automatic.
the only thing different is indoors, sitting at my desk which is 3 feet from the window, my phone switches between E, 3g, and H every few minutes like it cant get a stable connection.
havent gone outdoors yet.
Speedtest during H connection was: 104ms ping, 5.13Mbps down, 2.07Mbps up
this is comparable to my g2 speedtests
msmith1991 said:
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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Very good to know, thanks for the info...
The wait for this phone is EXCRUCIATING!!!...
MinimalistChris said:
Very good to know, thanks for the info...
The wait for this phone is EXCRUCIATING!!!...
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Working faster than my galaxy nexus around chicagoland, only problem is that I cant no longer tether even with the mod UAstring but If I switch back to the galaxy nexus everything works fine. We need to fix this issue ASAP
I live in SD, our refarm is kind of strange and this is the first time I've ever used it(only used primarily tmobile phones for last 10 years). The one thing I will say is that it in SD it seems every other tower has been refarmed, as I will keep going in and out of HSPA. This was seen as I was driving around on the freeway(not texting but checking service). Another thing is that I can be on a tower that has been refarmed, go into a building, and have it revert to edge from HSPA outside. And then when I take a couple steps outside the building it works again.
Also I was wondering if anyone else has handcut their sim to microsim? I'm hoping that may be the issue, and if I get an official tmobile microsim it will be fine. Otherwise the refarm is superb when it works, getting about 10 Mbps down with my handcut(from diagram) sim
Houston Area
The Developer Edition work fine in Houston area. However, the data speed is jumpy. My Note 2 LTE speed stay above 15 MBS all the time but the One LTE will go from 5 MBS to 20 MBS. H+ on the one is not stable at all. Tmo agent told me to call back in a week for more info. If someone find out a way to optimize the Dev edition on Tmo radio please let me know.
Hello there LTE! It's beautiful to see you on my screen. I can now confirm LTE in Houston
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The Developer Edition work fine in Houston area. However, the data speed is jumpy. My Note 2 LTE speed stay above 15 MBS all the time but the One LTE will go from 5 MBS to 20 MBS. H+ on the one is not stable at all. Tmo agent told me to call back in a week for more info. If someone find out a way to optimize the Dev edition on Tmo radio please let me know.
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I'm sure it won't be long before we have a radio flash for tmobile from the devs
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mr2kqql said:
Working faster than my galaxy nexus around chicagoland, only problem is that I cant no longer tether even with the mod UAstring but If I switch back to the galaxy nexus everything works fine. We need to fix this issue ASAP
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good to know. i live in chicago and am sticking with my $30 t-mo plan.
naan-consensual said:
good to know. i live in chicago and am sticking with my $30 t-mo plan.
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Finally got tethering working by using FoxFi and I get around 10mpbs, the stock one that comes with the phone doesnt quite work for tmobile.
New to the htc one but what is the tmo radio required for? Since it already works unlocked?
If I'm not mistaking it's 1700/1900/LTE out of the box the unlocked one doesn't have 1700 enabled. I'm sure a dev will eventually get it done. If you want 3g/4g data then you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area.
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Just gonna stay on the safe said and get it from the T-MO store tomorrow. Is there any advantage to get the 32gb unlocked version, except for no bloatware? Any advantage if I travel internationally?
msmith1991 said:
If I'm not mistaking it's 1700/1900/LTE out of the box the unlocked one doesn't have 1700 enabled. I'm sure a dev will eventually get it done. If you want 3g/4g data then you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area.
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The ATT/dev ones are 850/1900/2100MHz UMTS; band 4 (AWS) is the only UMTS band that uses 1700MHz at all.
I wouldn't count on getting AWS enabled on the dev version. It is very likely that the allowed bands are configured in hardware as has generally been the case on MDM9x15 devices.
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Just gonna stay on the safe said and get it from the T-MO store tomorrow. Is there any advantage to get the 32gb unlocked version, except for no bloatware? Any advantage if I travel internationally?
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The unlocked version is strictly worse from a 3G standpoint but might have a couple of extra LTE frequencies (not 100% sure on that one, tmo version definitely is bands 4/17 only). AFAIK the only other place AWS is at all likely to matter is Canada, but assuming tmo will unlock your One there is no frequency advantage to getting the unlocked version from HTC--I think it's $5 cheaper.
If you travel internationally then that's a huge advantage.. but I'm sure tmobile will unlock your phone, if you ask. I purchased the unlocked version because I didn't wanna deal with my uncle (account holder) nor tmobile. Plus there wasnt any information about tmobiles release at the time, I so I hopped on the unlocked version.
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I have the HTC 64GB Developer Edition here in Jacksonville Florida but I only get EDGE on T-Mobile Network I dont know what frequency they are using here in Jacksonville, they could be on 1700Mhz My brothers T-Mobile Galaxy S3 says UMTS-3 and he is getting 4G Speeds.
msmith1991 said:
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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Yeah you guys can actually use this to check if your area has the refarmed 1900 Mhz
http://www.airportal.de/
howardho said:
I live in SD, our refarm is kind of strange and this is the first time I've ever used it(only used primarily tmobile phones for last 10 years). The one thing I will say is that it in SD it seems every other tower has been refarmed, as I will keep going in and out of HSPA. This was seen as I was driving around on the freeway(not texting but checking service). Another thing is that I can be on a tower that has been refarmed, go into a building, and have it revert to edge from HSPA outside. And then when I take a couple steps outside the building it works again.
Also I was wondering if anyone else has handcut their sim to microsim? I'm hoping that may be the issue, and if I get an official tmobile microsim it will be fine. Otherwise the refarm is superb when it works, getting about 10 Mbps down with my handcut(from diagram) sim
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Just the way non T-Mobile phones work in San Diego. I have the same exact issues with my one x. Compared to T-Mobile phones the data connection is extremely unreliable constantly switching and dropping ESPECIALLY inside. Same thing with my wife's unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.
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Same Here I come from AT&T and I dont like them, I bought this phone to use it with T-Mobile, but I really had it with this HTC One 64GB Developer Edition, HTC should of included AWS 1700mhz on this phone for being such a premium phone with a high price... I'm having the same issue with T-Mobiles Refarm @ 1900mhz keeps dropping from H to EDGE, and I just spoke to my Buddy that works for T-Mobile and there LTE will be on AWS 1700MHZ... I'm shipping this phone back to HTC, I was thinking of buying T-Mobiles HTC One Branded phone that includes the AWS 1700mhz Band, but I don't like the fact that its only a 32GB. I'm going to miss this phone. Ohh well S4 is around the corner maybe I could give Sammy a shot.
954wrecker said:
Just the way non T-Mobile phones work in San Diego. I have the same exact issues with my one x. Compared to T-Mobile phones the data connection is extremely unreliable constantly switching and dropping ESPECIALLY inside. Same thing with my wife's unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.
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Moto X (Carrier Unlocked Version)

Greetings All,
I purchased a carrier unlocked version of the Moto X from a retailer on ebay. Here's the item number:290976476988 (I would provide the link, but I am not allowed to since I'm a new user). It had a pretty significant markdown from what Motorola is selling them for, so I decided to take a shot in the dark hoping it will work with my carrier, T-mobile, which I'm pretty confident it will. I should be receiving mine at the top of next week, so I'll check back with my results once I get everything squared away.
In the mean time, can anybody confirm if there is one universal carrier unlocked version that will work with T-mobiles bands? Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
conspiracymorpheus said:
Greetings All,
I purchased a carrier unlocked version of the Moto X from a retailer on ebay. Here's the item number:290976476988 (I would provide the link, but I am not allowed to since I'm a new user). It had a pretty significant markdown from what Motorola is selling them for, so I decided to take a shot in the dark hoping it will work with my carrier, T-mobile, which I'm pretty confident it will. I should be receiving mine at the top of next week, so I'll check back with my results once I get everything squared away.
In the mean time, can anybody confirm if there is one universal carrier unlocked version that will work with T-mobiles bands? Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
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It will but is missing the AWS 1700 HSPA frequency. If you go to or live in an area that is not refarmed you will be stuck on EDGE.
Turb0wned said:
It will but is missing the AWS 1700 HSPA frequency. If you go to or live in an area that is not refarmed you will be stuck on EDGE.
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Oooof. Not what I wanted to hear. You 100% on this?
conspiracymorpheus said:
Oooof. Not what I wanted to hear. You 100% on this?
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Yes I am. Its the reason I sucked it up and just ordered the crappy 16GB Tmobile one.. Exclusives suck.
Turb0wned said:
Yes I am. Its the reason I sucked it up and just ordered the crappy 16GB Tmobile one.. Exclusives suck.
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Well I think I may have lucked up, as I did a couple of quick searches and it looks like I'm in an area with 1900 MHz HSPA coverage. Does 1900 MHz constitute "refarmed" HSPA?
conspiracymorpheus said:
Well I think I may have lucked up, as I did a couple of quick searches and it looks like I'm in an area with 1900 MHz HSPA coverage. Does 1900 MHz constitute "refarmed" HSPA?
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Yes but what I try telling people on here just like I did with the HTC One (and later if you look on those forums many people started getting rid of their developer edition for a tmobile one) is that just because your area is refarmed doesn't mean every inch of it is. I would had to drive to the mall and realize i'm only on EDGE after spending $500+ on a phone. If you area has LTE that will help though. Also if you ever travel anywhere you run into the chance of not having 3G.
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Yes but what I try telling people on here just like I did with the HTC One (and later if you look on those forums many people started getting rid of their developer edition for a tmobile one) is that just because your area is refarmed doesn't mean every inch of it is. I would had to drive to the mall and realize i'm only on EDGE after spending $500+ on a phone. If you area has LTE that will help though. Also if you ever travel anywhere you run into the chance of not having 3G.
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No doubt, and I appreciate the concern as well as the explanation. I live about 10 minutes away from the Loop in Chicago, and I had my Nexus 4 working off of the LTE hack for quite some time until I upgraded to 4.3. I had LTE coverage about 90% of the time, but when I travel to see my Ma in the suburbs I remained on HSPA+ (not sure if its refarmed out that way).
We'll see how I do for the first week. If anything I'll just return this one and just get the T-mobile variant. Hopefully T-mobile continues to expand their LTE coverage in the surrounding areas around the prime metro areas. I've kinda accepted that I won't have mobile data in the boonies, but hopefully T-mobile fixes that soon as well.

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