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Props to the person that performed the tear-down. And props to Google Translate for making it an entertaining read.

see that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL7wTCBZ5m4&feature=player_embedded

Awesome! Any comments from HW experts?
Guess 2 batteries are good thing, Toshiba flash... how about LCD?LG?

Wow, nice teardown. At least we know know what's under the hood Just wonder, if the LG screen good?

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New Review

New Review:
There is a new Review out, including allot of pictures. But it is not in english so you will have to use Google Translator to understand a climpse of it
But first of all, here is a unpacking gallery from xonio:
http://www.xonio.com/bildergalerie/Ausgepackt-HTC-Touch-HD-Galerie_33512876.html
(click on "weiter" above to pictures. If you want to se the HD pictures click on the small arrows on the bottom left of the pictures)
1:
http://translate.google.at/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gsmonline.pl%2Fportal%2Fphonetests%2FphoneTests.jsp%3Fe8scrollFromnews_big%3D1%26e8scrollHowManynews_big%3D1%26s0n_id%3D20897&sl=pl&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8
2:
http://translate.google.at/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gsmonline.pl%2Fportal%2Fphonetests%2FphoneTests.jsp%3Fe8scrollFromnews_big%3D2%26e8scrollHowManynews_big%3D1%26s0n_id%3D20897&sl=pl&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8
3:
http://translate.google.at/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gsmonline.pl%2Fportal%2Fphonetests%2FphoneTests.jsp%3Fe8scrollFromnews_big%3D3%26e8scrollHowManynews_big%3D1%26s0n_id%3D20897&sl=pl&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8
4:
http://translate.google.at/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gsmonline.pl%2Fportal%2Fphonetests%2FphoneTests.jsp%3Fe8scrollFromnews_big%3D4%26e8scrollHowManynews_big%3D1%26s0n_id%3D20897&sl=pl&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8
5:
http://translate.google.at/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gsmonline.pl%2Fportal%2Fphonetests%2FphoneTests.jsp%3Fe8scrollFromnews_big%3D5%26e8scrollHowManynews_big%3D1%26s0n_id%3D20897&sl=pl&tl=en&hl=de&ie=UTF-8
Pictures:
http://www.gsmonline.pl/portal/gallery/gallery.jsp?s1number=24&s0id=320&e1number=1
http://www.gsmonline.pl/portal/gallery/gallery.jsp?s1number=2&s0id=319&e1number=1
http://www.gsmonline.pl/portal/gallery/gallery.jsp?s1number=3&s0id=321&e1number=1
Thank you for the review posted, it's nice hope to see expansys have the phone in stock very soon!
I bit superise seeing the review, the memory card holder beside battery and not under the battery
amireshan said:
Thank you for the review posted, it's nice hope to see expansys have the phone in stock very soon!
I bit superise seeing the review, the memory card holder beside battery and not under the battery
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It's like on Touch Pro
And they posted the IMEI number in full view. Never seen that before. Is it risky to do this?
amireshan said:
Thank you for the review posted, it's nice hope to see expansys have the phone in stock very soon!
I bit superise seeing the review, the memory card holder beside battery and not under the battery
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Actually its better off this way, so that whenever I have to load any media on the card, I dont have to pull out the battery and it would take for ever to reboot.
Thanks for the links, all good it seems!
The only thing they did not realy test is the multimedia performance of the phone
Lord.Bachus said:
The only thing they did not realy test is the multimedia performance of the phone
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It was mentioned somewhere that HTC forbids them to review too deeply about the software, only hardware and superficial stuff. guess they are still working out some kinks.
hmm, fishy... no video playback testing, come on...
I was hoping to take good pictures with 5MP camera. Other review says that the camera performs fast and this one the opposite.
badaas said:
hmm, fishy... no video playback testing, come on...
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Something should pop up soon, if I get time I will post something
buggybug0 said:
It was mentioned somewhere that HTC forbids them to review too deeply about the software, only hardware and superficial stuff. guess they are still working out some kinks.
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Even my old Qtek S200 had better photos than the ones from HD
damn i really just need one single thing to make me sell my almost new diamond to get this HD monster... video perfomance.... diamond video perfomance SUCKS but if HD handles well with it that screen and resolution would be killer....
but seems no one knows about video perfomance so i better dont put my hopes too high....

Pocketnow.com Full Review

A comprehensive Review of the Touch HD is available HERE
I hope this hasn't been posted before! (I did do a search)
Maybe a lot of you already have your HD's but I'm still waiting and this
helps.
Well presented review. Quite comprehensive. Thanks mate.
I also have not got mine yet. Still struggling within between iPhone and this. I'm hungry for details, so any good review helps.
eaglesteve said:
Well presented review. Quite comprehensive. Thanks mate.
I also have not got mine yet. Still struggling within between iPhone and this. I'm hungry for details, so any good review helps.
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Yes I thought so too.
Some (3 I think) good clear videos too.
The "usual" ritual unboxing.
The programs in detail.
The Settings in detail.
I was also considering the Iphone, Great GUI, looks the biz and as I am also on O2, that's a plus, But poor Camera, limited Bluetooth conectivinty and lack of a good driving SatNav program put me off.
Hoping I'm going to be impressed as much as most on this forum.

Suggest me a simple video converter

I know, I know I've used the search bar and knew the principle.
But what I'm asking is a simple tool that does pretty much the job of converting a standard video to a format BEST for x1. if possible, with a click of browse source file and a click of do your thing.
I mean, I've read some post to the extent of one person claim's his way is better than the other. And somehow can't it be a fastfood way of I wanna order combo number 2 with salad on sides. cat-ching! okay that's a dollar and ninety nine and there you go.
cheers!
Your post makes me chuckle like a little hungry girl.. ^^
Seriously though, you posted this right underneath the sticky: Touch HD video converter. Enjoy!
oh I did? Cat-ching! Thanks! I must be very frustrated about my 6 day old case crack. poor me!

Does anyone else really dislike unboxing videos?

I still search for and watch reviews of the Galaxy Note to see general opinion, but I completely skip unboxing videos now. They're 99% identical and there's almost nothing worse than a review by someone who has used the phone for oh..... 30 seconds.
I really don't understand why people keep making more and more unboxing videos when so many already exist.
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
I still search for and watch reviews of the Galaxy Note to see general opinion, but I completely skip unboxing videos now. They're 99% identical and there's almost nothing worse than a review by someone who has used the phone for oh..... 30 seconds.
I really don't understand why people keep making more and more unboxing videos when so many already exist.
- Frank
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I watched as many as I could find while I was waiting at my doorstep for FedEx to deliver my note. I have not watched one since. I would say there is a time and place for them.
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Some people get off on them. I am not one of them.
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Dont mind unboxing videos much. But what pisses me off is unboxing videos with preopened boxes. Whats the point if youve already opened the box before the video lol.
Side not, videos someone reviewing a product they dont own, showing pictures. That sh1t drives me crazy.
yes i agree with you. i like to see a good review starting with unboxing but there is no video like that. unbox it for 5 mintures review it for 1 minute this is how todays videos like
Well I do unboxing videoa of my own products. And I'm part of this unbox website in the Philippines. I own all devices because its a hobby of mine. Show some love!
I agree they are terrible
Can not stand them - I know I don't have to watch them, but seeing dozens of them in my search result really does piss me off. There should only be one for each major language spoken on earth. If you speak english and you can see there is another english unboxing video on U-tube, don't make another one!!!! I want to see the product, not "and here are the headphones, they're **** so I won't open them........ and here is some paper... hang on......................international warranty....... and here is a usb cable. This is the end where it plugs into the computer, the other end goes in here, um, where is it, er, not sure where it goes......................................................................Lets see what we have here...... wait a minute................................................. yeah, it's a battery. Oh I almost forgot................................. this is George, the postman who brought the package here this morning.............. If you're wondering why he's tied up and gagged, it's decause he didn't want to feature in this video................... but I said he had to, as I have to document everything, right from the beginning............. else it wouldn't be a proper unboxing video....................................................... Here we have the charger - looks cool - I like this charger............................... what does it say.............................................................................................................................................. can't read it............. Hope you enjoyed my product tour................ if you did......................... please subscribe........................ **Mmmph-urghhh**..... Shut it George".
Rant over.
Unboxing videos are a waste of time, maybe except the first one. Running few random games, benchmarks, interesting apps and talking briefly about some things that make this particular model stand out from the crowd is much more informative. But most ppl seem not to get it. I just wonder, who watches this crap, maybe they watch each others' unboxing videos???
I hate videos, period. I prefer reading an article about the gadget, backed up with a few screenshots.

z2 Smart Watch

Anyone know anything about this?
Clearly some idiots will soon put together a kickstarter/indiwatever claiming they completely designed clearly Chinese OEM kit with no modifications whatever other some software doodads (LOL) and plastic additions and some will pay these idiots through the nose while others will just buy from the oem via shops like Chinavasion for a reasonable amount.
LOL.
Anyhow would be cool to findout which OEM designed z2 and whether any chinavasion like shops are selling it?
go to google and type "z2 android wrist watch" - looks interesting - even if it's only a render.
Also ignore the uplaytablet wannabes pretending like they invented it - they're distributors.
Found a link to it.
From 6 days a...!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-wwkmWPOTU
And another link!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9DSsjgKGvE
YUP - this got the pine beat as far as I'm concerned!
qazzi76 said:
Anyone know anything about this?
Clearly some idiots will soon put together a kickstarter/indiwatever claiming they completely designed clearly Chinese OEM kit with no modifications whatever other some software doodads (LOL) and plastic additions and some will pay these idiots through the nose while others will just buy from the oem via shops like Chinavasion.
LOL.
Anyhow would be cool to findout which OEM designed z2 and whether any chinavasion like shops are selling it?
go to google and type "z2 android wrist watch" - looks interesting - even if it's only a render.
Also ignore the uplaytablet wannabes pretending like they invented it - they're distributors.
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Hi qazzi76
The manufacturer that are producing the Z2 is Appscomm Digital Technology Co., Ltd. in Guangdong, China, good friends of mine we helping them to produce some OEM/ODM projects....
Best Regards
Damien Douk
A.I Watch Creator
Clearly some proper price gouging going on for this z1 though... $400 USD??? Must be having a laugh
Will wait until it comes to sites of Chinavasion's ilk for maybe $260 USD then I'll bite.
Thanks for the info dedesuper!
That second video I posted demonstrates why I think the z2 is so much better than all the smart watches at the moment and represents a better value proposition. IMHO. Though this could easily change once reviews hit, also as I see other manufactures jumping on the bandwagon..!
The USB charging on the wristband is just like the z1 - perfect!
qazzi76 said:
Clearly some proper price gouging going on for this z1 though... $400 USD??? Must be having a laugh
Will wait until it comes to sites of Chinavasion's ilk for maybe $260 USD then I'll bite.
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Contact this person in Appscom she will give you a better price for the Z2 : [email protected] but now they are in vacation for the new year suggest you to contact them on the 10 of February.
I got to tell you that the Z2 not changing a lot of the Z1.
Check also our Smartwatch now that we are developing soon we will start the mass production : www.aiwatchtech.com
Best Regards
Damien Douk
A.I Watch Creator
LOL - I knew sites I found selling it were price gouging:
http://neuwatch.en.alibaba.com/product/1518333298-218169813/Android_4_0_Watch_Mobile_Phone_Z2.html
Show $100 a pop for minimum order of 100 pieces
Will definitely wait till the common sense pricing is available
dedesuper said:
Contact this person in Appscom she will give you a better price for the Z2 : [email protected] but now they are in vacation for the new year suggest you to contact them on the 10 of February.
I got to tell you that the Z2 not changing a lot of the Z1.
Check also our Smartwatch now that we are developing soon we will start the mass production : www.aiwatchtech.com
Best Regards
Damien Douk
A.I Watch Creator
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Seriously - Thanks for this invaluable info!
Also when will your AI Watch be available?
A.I Watch
qazzi76 said:
Seriously - Thanks for this invaluable info!
Also when will your AI Watch be available?
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It will be available very soon, after the Chinese New year will came out the technical samples and after if all are alright will start the mass production.
The Pre orders have a really special price, if you are interested you can email me and I will send you a special XDA pre orders coupon : [email protected]
We offer also a special offer for developers.
Note that we are not charging until your A.I Watch will be ready to be ship.
You can see all the information in XDA A.I Watch topic.....
Best Regards
Damien Douk
A.I Watch Creator
Thanks for that info about your AI watch. But I'm already sold on the z2 I'm afraid!
I always liked the Z1 form factor just thought it was a laggy mess but the dualcore mtk6577 in the Z2 should sort it right out - just need a review now - especially about battery life of the Z2
A.I Watch
qazzi76 said:
Thanks for that info about your AI watch. But I'm already sold on the z2 I'm afraid!
I always liked the Z1 form factor just thought it was a laggy mess but the dualcore mtk6577 in the Z2 should sort it right out - just need a review now - especially about battery life of the Z2
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You are welcome,
Actually the Z2 with the MT6577 is based on our old PCB so its not resolve all the lags but definitely move much better than the old Z1 the only thing that you may not like is the Screen....
Best Regards
Damien Douk
A.I Watch Creator
Anyone have any new information on the z2?
qazzi76 said:
Anyone have any new information on the z2?
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Just got an Offer from Tina of Guangdong Appscomm Co.,Ltd. : 300 USD.
Sorry dudes, but that is WAY too much for such a SmartWatch.
I m' willing to review it, but will not pay that much!
Yup - proper price gouging going on....
Will only pay 150 tops when it drops or won't get it at all.
Z2 watch and Google Play
dedesuper said:
You are welcome,
Actually the Z2 with the MT6577 is based on our old PCB so its not resolve all the lags but definitely move much better than the old Z1 the only thing that you may not like is the Screen....
Best Regards
Damien Douk
A.I Watch Creator
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Hi Damien,
I have bought myself one of your Z2 watches to develop a navigation app for flying light aircraft. My first impressions are good but I have a couple of questions...
Google Play:
My Z2 came with a simplified launcher that did not include Google Play. I downloaded and installed (various versions of) the Google Play apk and when I run it, it flashes up for a second then closes. I installed Nova Launcher from it's apk and that gives the same result. I've tried the usual stuff such as emptying the cache etc. but nothing works. Do you have any suggestions? It's not a stopper but it is inconvenient not being able to install apps through the proper channel.
GPS:
A few days ago, I got my app installed and was flying in an open cockpit gyrocopter and got a GPS location fix ok. Yesterday I was wearing my watch around town and in the car and it did not get any GPS data at all. I'd appreciate any comments you have on GPS with the Z2.
Screen:
You mentioned that the screen might not be good enough. I see what you mean. The contrast is poor and colors are dull. Not as good as a phone but you can read small text on it and it is surprisingly possible to type emails etc.
Battery life:
The first day I wore it I was waiting for my turn to fly and messing with the watch. By the time I got my flight the battery was flat. It was 11:30am. 2 hours or so. I had been on the internet with it and the battery was pretty hot. Yesterday I wore it all day and the battery lasted ok so it should be ok...
Thanks in advance for any info you can provide,
David
@SuperDave156;
I have one of these watches as well and am happy with it BUT like you said the battery gets quite warm (43C when i am using 3G) and does not last long.
I have installed Google play manually and ADW launcher seems to work ok on the watch Also you may want to install Pie control (very usefull).
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Here is the Google play i used if you want it BUT you need to root the watch with Framaroot and use Boromir exploit.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/65wwo7c4ozpm11j/Google_Play-v3.8.17.zip
>>>>W A R N I N G<<<<
If you are not familiar with rooting and setting permissions PLEASE IGNORE THE FOLLOWING LINKS - PLEASE!!
you could boot loop your device.
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Framaroot here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/framaroot/root-framaroot-one-click-apk-to-root-t2130276
Also installing system toolbox pro i was able to chabge the CPU governor to Ondemand rather than the default Hybrid so battery lasts a little longer.
rmk152 said:
@SuperDave156;
I have one of these watches as well and am happy with it BUT like you said the battery gets quite warm (43C when i am using 3G) and does not last long.
I have installed Google play manually and ADW launcher seems to work ok on the watch Also you may want to install Pie control (very usefull).
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Here is the Google play i used if you want it BUT you need to root the watch with Framaroot and use Boromir exploit.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/65wwo7c4ozpm11j/Google_Play-v3.8.17.zip
>>>>W A R N I N G<<<<
If you are not familiar with rooting and setting permissions PLEASE IGNORE THE FOLLOWING LINKS - PLEASE!!
you could boot loop your device.
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Framaroot here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/framaroot/root-framaroot-one-click-apk-to-root-t2130276
Also installing system toolbox pro i was able to chabge the CPU governor to Ondemand rather than the default Hybrid so battery lasts a little longer.
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Thank you for your detailed explanation of how to get Google Play to work on my Z2 watch. Your instructions worked perfectly and have transformed my watch from an ok novelty to a fully functional Android device. I am using Nova Launcher which I had previously installed and is similar in layout to AWD which I also tried. I now have my home screen set up how I like it with the HTC sense clock/date/weather rather than that uninspiring clock that comes pre loaded.
This thread will be a valuable resource for anyone else struggling to setup their Z2.
Thanks again,
Dave
anyone knows how to update the firmware?
I read in another thread about u8, but of course I do not have u8pro
GPS fix
Here's a thing... The main reason for buying an android watch for me was to use the GPS for navigation. Unfortunately it has only got a fix on one occasion and that was while I was flying in an open cockpit gyrocopter. I have worn it while walking around and while driving but it never gets a fix. I don't think it is due to the rooting because I had this problem before I rooted it.
Any one have any ideas?
Thanks in advance,
Dave

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