Personally, I think it's just another plain-Jane Galaxy S phone. It has the same horrid, cheap, plasticy feeling apparently, and the specs are nothing out of the ordinary. No dual-core processor or anything exciting. I cannot wait for HTC's next offering, because their build quality is sooo superior to Samsung's, and it will most likely have the new dual-core processors.
i love it, i want it.
however i dont want tmobile nor at&t
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Personally, I think it's just another plain-Jane Galaxy S phone. It has the same horrid, cheap, plasticy feeling apparently, and the specs are nothing out of the ordinary. No dual-core processor or anything exciting. I cannot wait for HTC's next offering, because their build quality is sooo superior to Samsung's, and it will most likely have the new dual-core processors.
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I must say it looks quite nice in person. My friend works for google and showed me his Nexus S.
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I must say it looks quite nice in person. My friend works for google and showed me his Nexus S.
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Oh, no doubt that it is a "pretty" device, but I actually use my phone instead of spending the day gawking at it. I don't want to pay $500 for something only to have it feel like cheap plastic.
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Oh, no doubt that it is a "pretty" device, but I actually use my phone instead of spending the day gawking at it. I don't want to pay $500 for something only to have it feel like cheap plastic.
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I didn't feel that it felt any better or worse to my EVO with regards to how cheap it felt. They both seem a bit "plasticky" for my taste.
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Personally, I think it's just another plain-Jane Galaxy S phone. It has the same horrid, cheap, plasticy feeling apparently, and the specs are nothing out of the ordinary. No dual-core processor or anything exciting. I cannot wait for HTC's next offering, because their build quality is sooo superior to Samsung's, and it will most likely have the new dual-core processors.
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You won't see dual cores from HTC until we near the summer. Samsung is actually probably the closest.
As for the Nexus S. I think it's alright, nothing revolutionary but I'd still consider it the best phone on the Market the day it's released. The Hummingbird is the current undisputed champ in the mobile CPU/GPU game. A 4" SAMOLED is near the top, better display than the EVO's at least. NFC chip + Gyroscope. The cameras on the Galaxy S are currently the best on any Android phone so the Nexus S shouldn't be any different. I also believe that the GPS chip was replaced so no SGS GPS horror show. So hardware wise it's not a huge leap but only a (very) small evolutionary step forward from what was the top spec'd Android phone.
Build is 50/50, I think this is a slick looking shape. Very thin, some nice curves but the plastic is a step down from the Nexus X. That said, our EVOs are pretty much 100% plastic as well so who am I to judge.
The big thing though is quick, straight from Google, Android updates; and that pretty much puts it on top of any Android phone IMO.
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Personally, I think it's just another plain-Jane Galaxy S phone. It has the same horrid, cheap, plasticy feeling apparently, and the specs are nothing out of the ordinary. No dual-core processor or anything exciting. I cannot wait for HTC's next offering, because their build quality is sooo superior to Samsung's, and it will most likely have the new dual-core processors.
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I have yet to see a samsung device I was impressed with. The galaxy looked nice til I held one. I'll wait for HTC's next release....though, I do wish they would release one with straight Android on it, and no sense overlay, so that we could get our updates straight from google.
i kinda like it but it has a average processor and doesnt have HSPA+.
looks cheap and i think there is no SDCARD support ? if so that's a deal breaker for me
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no sdcard kinda sucks but it has 16GB built in.
ok just found out it doesnt have any notification LEDs. i dont understand that.
well i would never get it, I have been trying to root my girls epic and with custom recovery for ages( finally got it last night) hacking on samsung is not that fun
Also does has the CM team ever done a sammy phone that will be a sign if one of us on the fence people would want to get one
Also GPS on the my girls epic is horrid at most times, Wonder if google who is big into location based- services is going to like not getting a lot of data back on their flagship phone
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i kinda like it but it has a average processor and doesnt have HSPA+.
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whoa whoa whoa hollllld up.... For real?? If this is true i just lost all interest in it lol i was using HSPA+ & Pure Google as my motivation...
:x it is true, not that i doubted you but i really was hoping you were wrong lol.
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Personally, I think it's just another plain-Jane Galaxy S phone. It has the same horrid, cheap, plasticy feeling apparently, and the specs are nothing out of the ordinary. No dual-core processor or anything exciting. I cannot wait for HTC's next offering, because their build quality is sooo superior to Samsung's, and it will most likely have the new dual-core processors.
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I guess my Evo having light leakage is considered superior build quality. Anyway I wouldn't buy any phone with the name Samsung attached to it. I wouldn't even buy a Samsung toaster for my kitchen with my past experiences.
I'd still get an HTC device as my next phone so we'll see how it goes.
No micro SD???
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well i would never get it, I have been trying to root my girls epic and with custom recovery for ages( finally got it last night) hacking on samsung is not that fun
Also does has the CM team ever done a sammy phone that will be a sign if one of us on the fence people would want to get one
Also GPS on the my girls epic is horrid at most times, Wonder if google who is big into location based- services is going to like not getting a lot of data back on their flagship phone
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Don't really need a CM team for nexus s. It is stock. Same as N1. Will be what rooting and everything is based on from 2.3 and on.
Also as far as gps issues and any issues go, everything will be updated through google, not samsung. The only reason I hated epic and any of the samsung phones was the updates, Samsung is just ****ty when it comes to updates. But this changes that, everything will be done through google.
Tbh, the phone is 10x better then evo. Hardware wise and software wise. Nexus S will become the standard of rooting and any mods, just like N1 did. The cpu/gpu is better, the camera is better, the screen is better, its smaller in weight and size (the only part that sucks is that its 4.0, and not 4.3).
All in all it's a better phone when it comes to hardware, and the software is backed by google.
Wait...no 720p recording? Ill pass....
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Not having HSPA+ is crazy though. HSPA only goes up to 7.2 and thats peak. HSPA+ has the potential of 20 at its peak and maybe more with a software update. Maybe thats why it get 17 DAYS STANDBY. I still kinda want one though.
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Don't really need a CM team for nexus s. It is stock. Same as N1. Will be what rooting and everything is based on from 2.3 and on.
Also as far as gps issues and any issues go, everything will be updated through google, not samsung. The only reason I hated epic and any of the samsung phones was the updates, Samsung is just ****ty when it comes to updates. But this changes that, everything will be done through google.
Tbh, the phone is 10x better then evo. Hardware wise and software wise. Nexus S will become the standard of rooting and any mods, just like N1 did. The cpu/gpu is better, the camera is better, the screen is better, its smaller in weight and size (the only part that sucks is that its 4.0, and not 4.3).
All in all it's a better phone when it comes to hardware, and the software is backed by google.
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so a new flagship phone has better hardware than evo........also if cm is not needed then why do people use it anyways, and im talking about us here aroind xda
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I bought the N1 and its on it way, I was really happy and that was my final choice, until today I was checking out the Euro Version of the Galaxy S and it has 1900 mhz 3g which is used in my Area! I could have bought that and had a bigger/better screen, Better Processor, Better Camera, and Design (subjective).
I do like the N1 dont get me wrong but that Super Amoled Screen is mouth watering lol
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I bought the N1 and its on it way, I was really happy and that was my final choice, until today I was checking out the Euro Version of the Galaxy S and it has 1900 mhz 3g which is used in my Area! I could have bought that and had a bigger/better screen, Better Processor, Better Camera, and Design (subjective).
I do like the N1 dont get me wrong but that Super Amoled Screen is mouth watering lol
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Unless you bought it on eBay etc, you could just return it.
Also, Galaxy S = no camera flash (absurd), Android 2.1 (2.2 in 4+ months), and a crappy skin on it.
Yea I bought on eBay, Im sure its not a Big Deal, the N1 is a fantastic phone, I love it, but I just think the Galaxy S looks really nice! Haven't used one though.
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Yea I bought on eBay, Im sure its not a Big Deal, the N1 is a fantastic phone, I love it, but I just think the Galaxy S looks really nice! Haven't used one though.
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I have used both, and while the Galaxy is a very nice phone, I can honestly say theres no way I would trade my Nexus One for a Galaxy S.
i wouldnt worry as much as you are. the nexus has a lot of advantages that the galaxy S does not. google updates, colored trackball, unlock bootloader, camera flash, superb build quality and materials and feel in comparison to the lightweight plasticky galaxy s, etc.
Thanks guys! Im sure the GS Is very nice but the N1 does indeed own!
ive actually been considering a galaxy s also and luckily my friend picked up one with his new contract a few days ago. after playing it with, i can tell you both are nice phones and you cant go wrong either way.
ive had my n1 for several months now so i have experienced many of the bugs the n1 has such as in rare cases, the n1 will send a text message to the wrong person (thought i did something wrong the one time it happened to but apparently its a bug; i text a lot too). i agree with the other poster in the feel of the n1 is better than all the other phones i have held and is only beaten by the new iphone.
my friend has the samsung vibrant, and for some reason, it doesnt have flash so if taking night pictures is a big deal for you, the n1 wins. however, i felt the the vibrant took better day pictures. the vibrant also has a night mode that is better than the other phones i have had, but is no replacement for flash. the same applies to video recording, vibrant wins during the day in both video and sound recording, and n1 wins in recording in dark places.
if gaming is a big deal for you, the galaxy s is the winner. i was playing psx4droid on the vibrant and although i didnt notice any speed improvements over the n1, i can tell you the vibrant supports at least a 3 finger multitouch, over the n1's 2.
one of the biggest flaws i felt the n1 had is the speaker. i am constantly missing calls and the quality is pretty bad, but somehow samsung managed to put in a worse speaker, or at least i thought so
Yeah, I don't think the Galaxy S is superior, more like on the same class.
Galaxy S has a better screen (larger, brighter) and more internal storage but no led notification, most likely no updates past 2.2, no camera flash. CPU is about equivalent. N1 seems better built. I just got my N1 two weeks ago and was also considering the Galaxy S but stock Android was what sold me on the N1.
It doesn't matter if the Galaxy S is better or not, a better phone will come along and surpass both phones. If you're not happy with the Nexus One now, you're not gonna be happy when every new big phone comes out.
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It doesn't matter if the Galaxy S is better or not, a better phone will come along and surpass both phones. If you're not happy with the Nexus One now, you're not gonna be happy when every new big phone comes out.
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Yup, but in six months when N1 is rocking android 3.0 and GS still has 2.1/2.2 you'd be much happier with a N1.
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I bought the N1 and its on it way, I was really happy and that was my final choice, until today I was checking out the Euro Version of the Galaxy S and it has 1900 mhz 3g which is used in my Area! I could have bought that and had a bigger/better screen, Better Processor, Better Camera, and Design (subjective).
I do like the N1 dont get me wrong but that Super Amoled Screen is mouth watering lol
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The N1 might be out shined in a few of those areas, but like others have mentioned, it will be the first to get Gingerbread. The Galaxy S probably never will. Samsung is going to expect you to purchase a new phone for 3.0 instead.
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Yup, but in six months when N1 is rocking android 3.0 and GS still has 2.1/2.2 you'd be much happier with a N1.
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Ya but shortly after that, something else will come out running 3.0 that's better than the N1, its a continual cycle. I'm just happy that the N1 is an awesome phone in itself, another phone may be better but it shouldn't take anything away from what I can do with mine.
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Ya but shortly after that, something else will come out running 3.0 that's better than the N1, its a continual cycle. I'm just happy that the N1 is an awesome phone in itself, another phone may be better but it shouldn't take anything away from what I can do with mine.
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You are right, and I agree. My point is, in six months he might not be ready to get a new phone yet (like I know will be my case), and in that case it is better to have a N1 over the GS. That was my reasoning choosing the N1. Of course, there might be unofficial 3.0 roms available for both phones, so maybe it will be a non issue at all for the OP.
I agree. N1 has its own unique speciality. Galaxy S is better in may way (because it came out later) but Nexus One can be modified easily and there are a lot of developers for it so that u can customize it to ur liking
Everything on the nexus is awesome .. it's just the touch screen.. multitouch doesn't work well on games and emulators.. but other than that it's an awesome receiving all the love
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I actually got my Nexus one recently and I'm fortunate that living in England pretty much all android devices are available.
I went there knowing the Galaxy S for instance can easily outperform the Nexus in most areas, especially in graphical terms.
I had a play with the Galaxy and two things struck me between that and the Nexus, I felt the Galaxy is too big and not easily pocketable and the 2nd was it just didn't feel like a precision bit of kit like the Nexus.
The Nexus just feels like it's in the top class when it comes to design and the Galaxy less so.
For me it's a no brainer, proper camera, beautiful device and it doesn't get all of the custom stuff over the top.
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I am contemplating selling my nexus one and getting a galaxy s. I would be sad to lose the trackball wake and led flashlight that my fine rooted nexus brings, but I am tired of struggling to use my phone in the sunlight, and would be happy to have a more responsive screen and better GPU.
I had the Galaxy and it doesn't even compare to the quality of the Nexus one. The Nexus One is the best built device still today. The quality build is 2nd to none and the looks are just killer. I think the 3.7 inch screen is the best size for a phone. Go Nexus One. The only thing better may be the Nexus Two.
^ Well said! The Galaxy is not in the same league as the Nexus! Even though I do like the name
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^ Well said! The Galaxy is not in the same league as the Nexus! Even though I do like the name
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Keep tellin' yourself that if it makes you feel better.
A friend has the tmo version. It is very nice. Smooth video recording with audio that is significantly better. No flash? As if the n1 camera and flash is anything to crow about. Lol. Photos don't have purple blobs in the middle on the vibrant.
But it was the video he got out of it that impressed me the most.
The n1 does feel better built.
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I think I'm kind of having sellers remorse, even though I sold it for $200 with it having some cosmetic damage (i'm usually very careful with my phones but i dropped my N1 like 1000 times!!)
i actually feel like I ripped off the guy even though it was in perfect working order and i threw in my extra battery and a car charger...
im gonna miss my trackball and colored notifications... PLEASE DONT LET ME REGRET THIS LG!!!
using an extremely old Nokia 5300 I had back in '07 till I get it ... yeah serious sellers remorse kicking it right now! hah
You will regret it!
Get the Arc instead
I don't think I could ever let go of my N1. I feel like it's become a part of me!
No doubt about it, sooner or later I will feel the need to upgrade. That's just the way technology works. But I always like to have a secondary device to fall back on in case of any problems - if my main device gets lost, stolen, damaged - even if it's just so much as a dead battery and I desperately need to make a call. Having a second phone can be a life saver. Plus, the Nexus One is so versatile in terms of modding. With so many ROM's to choose from, and still quite a bit of active development within the community - this phone seems far from dead. Google created an amazing piece of technology, and even when their sales strategy may have flopped, those who have had the pleasure of owning one know just how special it really is.
I recently parted ways with my aging HTC Magic which I kept as my backup device, so maybe I'm subconsciously considering an upgrade after all. There are so many options now, I wouldn't even know where to begin. G2X, Atrix, Nexus S, Evo 3D, etc... But one thing's for sure - my Nexus One is far too important to me to let go of.
I wish you the best of luck! And hey, you could always buy another used N1 if you begin having Nexus withdrawals
vegetaleb said:
You will regret it!
Get the Arc instead
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Why exactly?
All plastic
Very low loudspeaker
Freezings and random reboots
not so good 8mp
Dual core still need OS 2.4, it's still 2.2
Arc:
So stylish!
way louder speaker than N1 and optimus 2x
unlockable bootloader soon
Brilliant 8mp
Exellent bravia screen
OS 2.3 out of the box
Sweet price
I am getting one next tuesday
And will get the Sensation in September
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All plastic
Very low loudspeaker
Freezings and random reboots
not so good 8mp
Dual core still need OS 2.4, it's still 2.2
Arc:
So stylish!
way louder speaker than N1 and optimus 2x
unlockable bootloader soon
Brilliant 8mp
Exellent bravia screen
OS 2.3 out of the box
Sweet price
I am getting one next tuesday
And will get the Sensation in September
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Link to the Arc?
Bloodflame said:
I don't think I could ever let go of my N1. I feel like it's become a part of me!
No doubt about it, sooner or later I will feel the need to upgrade. That's just the way technology works. But I always like to have a secondary device to fall back on in case of any problems - if my main device gets lost, stolen, damaged - even if it's just so much as a dead battery and I desperately need to make a call. Having a second phone can be a life saver. Plus, the Nexus One is so versatile in terms of modding. With so many ROM's to choose from, and still quite a bit of active development within the community - this phone seems far from dead. Google created an amazing piece of technology, and even when their sales strategy may have flopped, those who have had the pleasure of owning one know just how special it really is.
I recently parted ways with my aging HTC Magic which I kept as my backup device, so maybe I'm subconsciously considering an upgrade after all. There are so many options now, I wouldn't even know where to begin. G2X, Atrix, Nexus S, Evo 3D, etc... But one thing's for sure - my Nexus One is far too important to me to let go of.
I wish you the best of luck! And hey, you could always buy another used N1 if you begin having Nexus withdrawals
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This is true, this was actually going to be the first smartphone I kept before/after buying a new one but I JUST moved and rather make my new phone free (I qualify for a full upgrade) so I can put that towards some new furniture. 200 isn't a lot, but it can get me a kitchen table!
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All plastic
Very low loudspeaker
Freezings and random reboots
not so good 8mp
Dual core still need OS 2.4, it's still 2.2
Arc:
So stylish!
way louder speaker than N1 and optimus 2x
unlockable bootloader soon
Brilliant 8mp
Exellent bravia screen
OS 2.3 out of the box
Sweet price
I am getting one next tuesday
And will get the Sensation in September
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Hmmm, sounds tempting but probably not available for T-Mobile USA users!
and I am DEFINITELY not going to keep using this dumb phone any longer than I have to...
Here's the official page:http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperiaarc?cc=us&lc=en#view=overview
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Hmmm, sounds tempting but probably not available for T-Mobile USA users!
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Here's the official page:http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/xperiaarc?cc=us&lc=en#view=overview
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Sadly, according to the specs listed, this does not appear to support TMO's 3G.
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c'mon Sony, post the CPU and GPU on the specs page, wtf?
Is the "BE" picture/video enhancements realtime or post-processing ?
Arc looks nice but "1GHz Scorpion processor, Adreno 205 GPU, Qualcomm MSM8255 Snapdragon"
sorry no thanks...
Im probably gonna get g2x because of all the bands it supports. I think it will make a great travel phone too once unlocked.
It is just the "plain old" 1GHz MSM8255 / Adreno 205. While still sufficient for most uses, it is hardly a cutting edge.
But the biggest problem in my view is the internal flash storage, just a tiny 320mb.
It should be perfect otherwise to make me want one. But it isn't.
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I think I'm kind of having sellers remorse, even though I sold it for $200 with it having some cosmetic damage (i'm usually very careful with my phones but i dropped my N1 like 1000 times!!)
i actually feel like I ripped off the guy even though it was in perfect working order and i threw in my extra battery and a car charger...
im gonna miss my trackball and colored notifications... PLEASE DONT LET ME REGRET THIS LG!!!
using an extremely old Nokia 5300 I had back in '07 till I get it ... yeah serious sellers remorse kicking it right now! hah
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I feel ya. I just listed my Nexus on ebay today, and I am getting the LG. Probably buying it outright for 499 so I can sell it when something else strikes me in about 8 months, however I will miss my N1 for sure. The N1 is a great phone.
Don't regret it. Going from a Nexus One to a T Mobile GX2 is a definite upgrade. You're getting a bigger screen, faster processor, better camera on the back, front facing camera, more responsive touchscreen that supports multitouch, and a faster 3G/4G radio for HSPA+, and the phone will have AT&T 3G/4G bands....you made a good choice....
I'm also considering the G2X, but probably just save up and buy it outright and keep my N1 as a backup.
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You should be fine with that upgrade...keep us posted on how it did compare to your N1.
I would probably consider the G2X if it had a screen superior to my Nexus One. It may be better in every way (minus build quality I assume), but I'm a screen whore.
My next phone will probably be a Samsung one. Yes, they may be bad when it comes to updates, but they've been kicking ass with hardware. Until someone beats this, everyone has lost. Just kidding everyone~
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I would probably consider the G2X if it had a screen superior to my Nexus One. It may be better in every way (minus build quality I assume), but I'm a screen whore.
My next phone will probably be a Samsung one. Yes, they may be bad when it comes to updates, but they've been kicking ass with hardware. Until someone beats this, everyone has lost. Just kidding everyone~
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Oddly enough I've got a N1 and a Samsung Galaxy S 4G in front of me, and the N1 has whiter whites than the Galaxy S. Everything was turned on max brightness, too. I was a bit taken back, I was expecting the galaxy S to have blown it out of the water.
The only thing that sucks hard about our N1 is the fact that the actual LED screen is a couple millimeters below the glass. This makes pinpoint clicking a bit tougher at odd angles, in addition to all the extra glare/reflection from the extra layer of space between the glass and LED.
Sorry, but as an N1, vibrant, 4g vibrant owner, Samsung has done hardware justice. The samoled is just the bomb. I just wish the updates came on time as it were.
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Just played with a work colleague's Galaxy S2 and now my Vision feels like the fat ugly friend you see standing with the tall hot chick in a nightclub
That phone is properly awesome...
I cannot live without a physical keyboard so I don't have the option of getting one, sadly.
Please say some stuff to make me feel better about my phone?
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Consider it an evil of the technology treadmill. A newer product is typically going to be faster and better than an older one (unless the manufacturer really screwed up!). You'll drive yourself crazy envying every new phone that comes along that is newer than what you have. So unless you have wads of cash to buy every nice looking phone that comes out, most of us have to make a decision based on the choices you have at the time you want to upgrade, and live with it until you can afford the next upgrade. No doubt, even if you bought a Galxy S2, you would end up salivating the next "latest and greatest" in a few months. Appreciate the fact that you have a nice performing, solidly built phone with a hardware keyboard, that has (and will continue to have, for some time) great developer support.
Ya my roommate just got the g2x and now I hate my phone.
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I know my phone is good and dev support is GREAT, which will allow it a decent enough lifespan for some time to come.
But I just wish someone would put out a super-phone WITH A DAMN KEYBOARD!! I don't care what it would cost to buy, I would buy it. Sure this phone can be OC'd quite nicely, but with the weak mono speaker, average camera and video, screen which is rubbish in direct sunlight, etc. it's not really my dream hardware :-/
Here's hoping the next Nexus comes with with a keyboard, dual (or quad!) core, a gig of ram and decent multimedia components!!
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I know my phone is good and dev support is GREAT, which will allow it a decent enough lifespan for some time to come.
But I just wish someone would put out a super-phone WITH A DAMN KEYBOARD!! I don't care what it would cost to buy, I would buy it. Sure this phone can be OC'd quite nicely, but with the weak mono speaker, average camera and video, screen which is rubbish in direct sunlight, etc. it's not really my dream hardware :-/
Here's hoping the next Nexus comes with with a keyboard, dual (or quad!) core, a gig of ram and decent multimedia components!!
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I hear you about the direct sunlight. That absolutely blows. Someone wants to trade me the nexus s and I would be all down for it except the no keyboard and few other quirks like no sd card.
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And a 4"+ screen
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And a 4"+ screen
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I know i'm in the minority on this one but screens can be too big. HD7 for example. Just looks gaudy and over the top to me.
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I know i'm in the minority on this one but screens can be too big. HD7 for example. Just looks gaudy and over the top to me.
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I'm with you 4.3" is to big. My bro has a DHD and I find it uncomfortable to use.
My boss just got SGS2 and I have to admit I'm a bit jealous because it is awesome. But I can't see my self ever having a phone without a hardware keyboard so the S2 is a no go for me. I'm certain my next phone will be the successor to the G2, assuming that HTC backtrack on the whole bootloader thing.
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I'm with you 4.3" is to big. My bro has a DHD and I find it uncomfortable to use.
My boss just got SGS2 and I have to admit I'm a bit jealous because it is awesome. But I can't see my self ever having a phone without a hardware keyboard so the S2 is a no go for me. I'm certain my next phone will be the successor to the G2, assuming that HTC backtrack on the whole bootloader thing.
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I hear you about the boatloader. That is a dam shame any way you look at it.
I am not envy of any other phone that does not have a hardware keyboard!
If you want to deal with odin and lack of support for updates. Go samsung. They make nice hardware. But what good is the hardware with crap support to back it up.
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luis86dr said:
If you want to deal with odin and lack of support for updates. Go samsung. They make nice hardware. But what good is the hardware with crap support to back it up.
[G2/HTC Vision]
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Ditto. There may be faster bigger brighter phones out there, but the g1 and the g2 are such solid phones. They refuse to die. Specially g2 at 1.5ghz. It can still compete. Developers support is do big as compared to some other phones. Htc all the way. Hoping for unlocked bootloader on the sensation.
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Ditto. There may be faster bigger brighter phones out there, but the g1 and the g2 are such solid phones.
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Indeed. My Z can do anyting I need from a phone including playing ps1 games and map keys to play with. What more can I ask for. I will never give it up unless there will be a new powerful mobile with hardware keyboard, which is layed out the same way as the Z keyboard where every other row is shifted.
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Ditto. There may be faster bigger brighter phones out there, but the g1 and the g2 are such solid phones. They refuse to die. Specially g2 at 1.5ghz. It can still compete. Developers support is do big as compared to some other phones. Htc all the way. Hoping for unlocked bootloader on the sensation.
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Couldn't have said it any better myself sir! I absoletly love my phone and I have yet to be envious of any phone since getting mine back in Nov. Love the rom I'm using and couldn't see myself using any other.
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I had an HD2 for ages, an S2 for a few days (then sold it because I could make £160 profit on e-bay due to people paying silly prices!), now I've just ordered a desire Z to give it a go (£263.39 on ebuyer inc VAT)!
Though the S2 was nice & the HD2 does the job, I'm now much more excited about having a hardware keyboard than anything the S2 had to offer!
Unless you dislike hardware keyboards, I agree there's no point having phone envy yet - the S2 does nothing that the HD2/Desire Z can do; it just does things more smoothly!
I would agree that there are phones out there that might be 'prettier' and provide some 'eye candy' but I don't think I would trade my DZ for any other device out there right now.
I too cannot live without a hardware keyboard and the DZ has one of the best keyboards I have ever used. It took some getting used to because of its size, but after that initial period, a keyboard has never felt better in my hands.
And while it may not have the fastest Dual Core Processor on the market, I have yet to find any set of tasks that my DZ can't handle. Throw in the unlocked bootloader and arguably the best developer support of any Android Device and you have a recipe for a long-lasting, competitive smartphone.
I won't even consider upgrading until we get a phone that looks like a 'G3'...
i work at best buy and i see this same situation almost everyday. technology is a love hate thing. you just have to realize that its going to be constantly changing, and getting better. lets not forget that the vision is still a highend phone, and kicks alot of phones asses. i love my g2, but i do see myself getting a htc sensation. ive come to realize that although the kb on the vision is amazing, its not something i have to have. the vision is a great phone, along with the desire hd, nexus s, mytouch 4g and all of the phones that came out the same time this one did. its awesome. you just have to realize that if it does what you want with no problem, then why hate?
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i work at best buy and i see this same situation almost everyday. technology is a love hate thing. you just have to realize that its going to be constantly changing, and getting better. lets not forget that the vision is still a highend phone, and kicks alot of phones asses. i love my g2, but i do see myself getting a htc sensation. ive come to realize that although the kb on the vision is amazing, its not something i have to have. the vision is a great phone, along with the desire hd, nexus s, mytouch 4g and all of the phones that came out the same time this one did. its awesome. you just have to realize that if it does what you want with no problem, then why hate?
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I'd have to disagree with the fact the Vision is high end any more. On release yes, but 6mths down the road it's only just mid-range in pretty much all areas EXCEPT the keyboard. Single core chip (albeit a reasonable one), 512mb RAM (really? The DHD had 768mb), an average 5mp camera...
I think we make a lot of excuses for this phone, just to have the keyboard. I had to think long and hard about keeping my second one because of the questionable z-hinge, and decided that I'd have to live with it since there were no other qwertys coming out (except the Droid 2/Milestone 2 which is a no-no with encrypted bootloader).
I hate the weight of the thing, I hate the battery life (which although better than my old Desire, is still pretty poor as I work in a weak 3G area), I hate the fact I struggle to see the screen in the sunlight, I hate the sh*t-arse weak speaker which struggles to get above one decibel without distorting, and I hate the fact that HTC always cheap out on cameras, the video-recording is crap.
People come to me at work and ask what phone they should buy cos I'm kind of that guy who knows a little bit. And they've all seen the recent HTC marketing campaign here in the UK, they're like "Oh you have an HTC, do you think I should get this HTC (model)?" And I find myself saying "No, get this Samsung, or get this iPhone, they have better features that you would get use out of".
I know I'm not at the point where I want to give up the awesome dev support that HTC phones usually get, but I am at the point where I hope devs start supporting other brands a lot more too. Especially in light of HTCs locking of bootloaders, and the fact it's getting harder and harder to get full access to them. HTC has the big rep as the hacker's choice, but I don't think their hardware justifies it any more. Not at the moment at least.
Don't get me wrong, there is no other phone I'd rather have at the moment, since one doesn't exist. And the rom I'm on is frigging amazing. But if Samsung bring out an S2 with a keyboard then I'd have a heard time saying no to that, as would a lot of other people I imagine. I never thought I'd consider a Samsung after last year's update debacle, and I'm still hesitant now. But if enough devs get one, then they would sort out any probs the phone has.
OK, rant over!
I just watched an unboxing of the HTC Sensation coming to Tmobile ... GODDAMN .. that is a thing of beauty..
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I know my phone is good and dev support is GREAT, which will allow it a decent enough lifespan for some time to come.
But I just wish someone would put out a super-phone WITH A DAMN KEYBOARD!! I don't care what it would cost to buy, I would buy it. Sure this phone can be OC'd quite nicely, but with the weak mono speaker, average camera and video, screen which is rubbish in direct sunlight, etc. it's not really my dream hardware :-/
Here's hoping the next Nexus comes with with a keyboard, dual (or quad!) core, a gig of ram and decent multimedia components!!
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While this is true and all, I still think our phones are the best overall hardware for someone who needs a physical keyboard like myself. There are plenty of physical keyboard models out there (not as many as touch only of course), and there is still yet one to come out with better overall specs than this phone.
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If you want to deal with odin and lack of support for updates. Go samsung. They make nice hardware. But what good is the hardware with crap support to back it up.
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Yep, and that's the BIGGEST problem with Samsuck. They tend to make pretty incredible hardware (minus the vibrant, who the heck makes a camera without a flash nowadays?), but their support is absolutely abysmal. A friend here at work has an Epic 4G, and he's STILL on Eclair. Absolutely unacceptable support.
Hi all, I know its down to personal preference, but, I have a SGS1 with 16GB internal memory running 2.3.3. stock, so getting a SGS2 would not improve any of that, do you think its worth getting the SGS2? what would you all do and what would be the improvement i would see?
Thanks for your thoughts
Been playing with one this weekend, they are very fast, have lots of memory and white ones look great.
The downside, everyone has one, sound is worse than SGS1, nexus prime out soon. I would personally get the nexus or wait for the SGS3 etc, surely you want something a bit different, the 2 is just a little bigger and a little faster
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Hi all, I know its down to personal preference, but, I have a SGS1 with 16GB internal memory running 2.3.3. stock, so getting a SGS2 would not improve any of that, do you think its worth getting the SGS2? what would you all do and what would be the improvement i would see?
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16 GB and 2.3.3... nope, you're right. There would be no improvement whatsoever. (Seriously? )
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Been playing with one this weekend, they are very fast, have lots of memory and white ones look great.
The downside, everyone has one, sound is worse than SGS1, nexus prime out soon. I would personally get the nexus or wait for the SGS3 etc, surely you want something a bit different, the 2 is just a little bigger and a little faster
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This, by far. +1
My wife picked one up a week ago, so I can truly compare mine to it side by side and I would say, I like it a lot.
1. Much, much faster.
2. There doesn't appear to be any Lag involved
3. Battery doesn't seem to last very long, but as I tested that part of it early on, it may need a few cycled charges to really say how good/bad it is.
4. GPS is way better than the SGS.
Now, having said all that, the phone is perfect for my wife (she bought the white one). She, having been a long-time blackberry user til her 9700 screen crapped out has been getting used to it, but she's starting to like this phone much better than her blackberry.
Like I said though.. its perfect for my wife. She doesn't know Gingerbread from Shortbread when it comes to this phone, and I intend to keep it that way. Yes this phone runs 2.3.3, but it doesn't seem to bad compared to my SGS with stock 2.3.3 as well. My phone is rooted, but I don't have intentions of rooting hers.
Long story short, its blazing fast, but I wouldn't buy one for myself. Samsung is just too slow on firmware updates to make it worth it for me. In fact any carrier specific phone would be. They are Androids, but they are kind of like Androids bastardized cousin. For me, my next phone is a nexus. I want it to grow as Android grows, and that only happens with Google.
Should wait for SGS 3, far better specs this phone will be awesom
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/10/is-...rther-details-leak-on-samsungs-next-flagship/
My Mrs has a black sgs2 and comparing it to my original sgs is tough.
On the plus side the screen and speed of the sgs2 are really nice. However for everyday use i find it just that little bit too big, also the handset doesn't feel as strong as the original. Im reasonably confident i could drop my phone and survive to tell the tale, but with the 2 i find myself being really careful.
Sound on the 2 really isn't anywhere near the standard of original, i like to hear my music, although I've not seen if supercurio has made much progress on the 2.
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Should wait for SGS 3, far better specs this phone will be awesom
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/10/is-...rther-details-leak-on-samsungs-next-flagship/
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I agree, those are awesome specs. But then again, so are the SGII's... definitely not comparable, but awesome nonetheless.
My whole point in this is, specs are just that... specs. The SGS II that my wife has is amazing specs wise. Its head over heals better specs wise than my SGS1.
Here's the problem though... aside from flashier graphics, a bigger screen, and a flash for the camera, its still 2.3.3. So its not a great leap for me to go to it.... its essentially the same phone if you think about it. Sure, the SGS2 will most likely get the upgrade to ICS, but when? After Jello or whatever 'J' is comes out?
The SGS3 will suffer the same fate. It will be up to Samsung to update it, not google.
The SGS3 will be a great phone, but you'll have to wait for a developer to harness its true power. Just like the SG2 and SGS1.
Whereas any nexus incarnation will have google behind it, and updated accordingly.
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Should wait for SGS 3, far better specs this phone will be awesom
http://phandroid.com/2011/10/10/is-...rther-details-leak-on-samsungs-next-flagship/
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1.8 GHz dual core, 2GB RAM and samoled plus HD (read: RGB, not pentile)...daaaamn. I'm dropping cash on that the day it comes out unless I get a Nexus Prime instead. The rounded shape makes it look pretty big though.
Could be total BS though, there are two mistakes on the slide: copying is spelt wrong and the SGS doesn't have exynos cpu it has hummingbird. It's also weird that the "copying or reproduction is not allowed" is located like that, usually it would be along the bottom of each slide in a presentation so as not to interfere with any of the content. The way it is kind of screams "single fake slide".
For the record, Samsung renamed all their SoC to Exynos xxxx, even humingbird. I find this stupid, but that's how it is.
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ok, thanks guys, lots to think about.
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My whole point in this is, specs are just that... specs. The SGS II that my wife has is amazing specs wise. Its head over heals better specs wise than my SGS1.
Here's the problem though... aside from flashier graphics, a bigger screen, and a flash for the camera, its still 2.3.3. So its not a great leap for me to go to it.... its essentially the same phone if you think about it. Sure, the SGS2 will most likely get the upgrade to ICS, but when? After Jello or whatever 'J' is comes out?
The SGS3 will suffer the same fate. It will be up to Samsung to update it, not google.
The SGS3 will be a great phone, but you'll have to wait for a developer to harness its true power. Just like the SG2 and SGS1.
Whereas any nexus incarnation will have google behind it, and updated accordingly.
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I have no problem running stock AOSP Android on any SGS, so what exactly are you waiting for? You say we have to wait for Samsung, then we have to wait for a developer... but in reality, ICS will be on the SGS2 with practically no wait at all.
Please wait a few months to nexus prime. You wont regret!
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seen the specs for the galaxy nexus think the SGS II looks better
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I have no problem running stock AOSP Android on any SGS, so what exactly are you waiting for? You say we have to wait for Samsung, then we have to wait for a developer... but in reality, ICS will be on the SGS2 with practically no wait at all.
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"Official Samsung Firmwares" are never instantaneous, at least not here in Canada they aren't.
I mean think about it. The original SGS was the flagship phone, and we had to wait a long to go to Froyo when it first came out to the rest of the world... then while the rest of the world was enjoying bug fixes inside 2.2.1, we in Canada never received a 2.2.1 update at all.
Then go over to Gingerbread. Took forever for Canada to yet again see 2.3.3. But that is where Canada is at right now.. INCLUDING THE CURRENT FLAGSHIP SGS2. The rest of the world is either enjoying 2.3.4 or 2.3.5 or 2.3.6.
Lets not even mention the blatant, "reproduceable for anyone" bugs that are in 2.3.3 but not 2.3.4 for our I9000M's... namely swype speech button not working at all on the SGS.
AOSP? You'd have to fill me in on where you're getting your roms that don't void warranty for using them. Thats not a point I care about, but many others out there do.
The SGS2 (My wifes) was released AFTER 2.3.4 came out... yet they put 2.3.3 on it. That make any sense to anyone?
Sure it makes sense.. Carrier branded or "Locked" phones get in the way of quick releases for obvious reasons, and beyond that, samsung has 10 billion different incarnations of the same device that may need tweaking here or there to the rom. Hence slowdowns.
Having said all this, Google Phones don't have that problem.... The Nexus Prime will be what? the 3rd or 4th phone released under the Nexus name? Easy to code for, find bugs and release an update.
All these specs we are seeing for the SGS 3 may or may not be real. Same goes for the Nexus Prime. We'll have to wait and see.... but to me, quick support and updates mean everything.
please correct me if im wrong but the galaxy nexus is made by samsung so wont we have the same software update waits that we get with the SGS1 and 2
No the nexus s is also Samsung but nexus phones get software straight from google.
I have had a Galaxy S for 6 months and I upgraded to a Galaxy S2 a couple of weeks ago.
On the SG1 sound over the earphones is better, battery lasts longer and... that's all.
Everything else is better on the SG2 but the true big reason to upgrade, for me, was the SG2'S 1Gb RAM. I multitask a lot and even with bigmem firmwares and GalaxyTuner task-killer tuning I had apps having to reload almost every time I switched back to them (especially when one of the ones open in the background was the browser, which was very often).
That's the big single reason to upgrade, for me, and I am VERY happy with the SG2 in this regard. This phone is a multitasking king.
Having said all of that, unless you have similar needs I wouldn't advise upgrading. Everything is better on the SG2 but not enough, IMO, to make the upgrade worth it. Wait for something which is a bigger improvement over the SG1, like the Note (not for everyone, I know, but going to be my next smartphone in 6 months or so) or the SG3.
BTW, I see the Galaxy Nexus mentioned a lot, to me it's inferior to my SG2 (NO SD CARD SLOT!?!) apart obviously from ICS, which the SG2 is going to get.
I had a play around on an SGS2, had the opportunity to upgrade from my i9000 relatively cheaply and even though I thought it was great, would have appreciated the additional RAM and more powerful CPU I didn't go for it. The audio quality was just crap compared to my SGS and half the time I listen to music on it whilst working or on the bus or whatever so music's important to me and in that sense it would have been a downgrade.
Also as a matter of personal taste I thought it was a little too big. You could get used to it but the way I see it even with my giant head and giant hands I just about get away with a 4 inch handset (which I find the ideal sort of size) and anything larger just seems a little ostentatious. Unfortunately there currently seems to be a trend towards giant phones which I'm hoping will die out soon because when I do get round to upgrading I don't want to feel like I have to walk around with some Trigger Happy TVesque giant.
Anyways, like the bloke above I think the RAM would be the biggest upgrade, multitasking and all that. I don't really see anything that really needs the dual core processor and GPU wise the SGX540 in the SGS is alright, and seeing as we don't currently get the games you do on iOS it's not like it's really getting pushed that much anyway.
Bottomline I'd say if music is important to you, stick to the SGS. If not and you're a multitasking fiend it's probably worth the upgrade if you can get a good deal.
Anyone thinking about updating to a Samsung model? The larger screen and faster processing is nice. Lots of speed, quick downloads and community support.
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Anyone thinking about updating to a Samsung model? The larger screen and faster processing is nice. Lots of speed, quick downloads and community support.
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I agree with that but they are mostly made of plastic. I still prefer HTC phones because of the aluminum unibody build and sleek design.
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Anyone thinking about updating to a Samsung model? The larger screen and faster processing is nice. Lots of speed, quick downloads and community support.
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I own two Captivates and a Nexus One. I would not recommend switching to Samsung. I have been so dissatisfied with my Captivate that I am holding out on my upgrade and passing up the SGS2 and Skyrocket in hopes that HTC will deliver something of decent quality on ATT. I've even contemplated switching my main phone back to the Nexus One until something better arrives.
The fact that I'm still stuck on Froyo is absolutely ridiculous. If the Captivate was a low grade phone that would be one story. But the Galaxy S line was a premier lineup when it was released. If you want to feel cheated by a company, join up with Samsung.
Yes there are custom ROMs but without the release of source code they all have problems and bugs. I ran GB through Apex for a long time but eventually got tired of the phone dialer apk crashing every day. Also, some people can't use custom ROMs due to work and Android development is important to them.
I'll admit there are things I like about my Cappy: Super AMOLED screen, screen size, overall smooth performance, plenty of dev work on Samsung phones. But the lack of Android support by Samsung, the poor GPS performance with no fix, and the random shut down problems left a very bad taste in my mouth.
Not to mention, the nice feel of a sturdy metal HTC phone is miles beyond the cheap plastic feel of a Samsung phone. Just trying to give my 2 cents. I'd be glad to share any of my experiences in as much of a non biased way as I can.
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I agree with that but they are mostly made of plastic. I still prefer HTC phones because of the aluminum unibody build and sleek design.
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i have had great luck with the tmo sgs2. it's build quality, though plastic, it quite good.
imho
Yeah, I'm waiting for a good HTC phone to come out to replace my N1. I can't stand the plasticy feel of the SGII or the Galaxy Nexus.
Hopefully, we'll see something good from HTC during CES next week. I've heard rumors of a quad-core HTC phone. Let's hope so.
I had the Samsung Galaxy S II LTE from Rogers and the phone felt so plasticky. There's nothing appealing about Samsung devices. Their RF and call quality are poor. I ended up getting the HTC Amaze and I have no regrets. The build quality on the Amaze trumps any Samsung. Call quality & RF is much better. I'm hoping HTC will announce the rumored HTC Edge quad-core next week. It's too bad Google switched to Samsung to make their devices. I'm not impressed with the build quality of the Galaxy Nexus. It feels plasticky. I prefer the solid feel of a device even if it weighs more.
I will at least concede that the plastic was sturdier than I thought. I've had my Captivate since July 2010 and it has survived some big falls and hits. However, the lack of support from Samsung is just too much for me to overcome.
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Hopefully, we'll see something good from HTC during CES next week. I've heard rumors of a quad-core HTC phone. Let's hope so.
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I've seen some rumors that would point to this as well but I have a feeling it will still be a plastic styled phone. It wasn't until late December when HTC announced they were going to change their focus in 2012 to produce better quality builds and get away from the cheap feeling phones. I find it hard to believe they would wait so long for that announcement and then have a non-plastic phone at CES.
But who knows...if they do, I will be excited. I just sold my Nexus One today and it hurt a little inside. Such a good phone with a great feel and quality build. Would love to have another HTC in my pocket to replace the Samsung.
HTC vs. Samsung
body vs. screen
looks vs. graphics performance
I'm waiting for the coming wave. The OG Droid opened the doors for the 2010 wave, but the N1 was the best buy two years ago because it was the first that could stand in line with the new wave of superphones (1 GHz, OLED, etc.). The GN may have started the new wave of 2012, but it's not gonna stand with the rest of the quad-cores (and it's missing external storage?!??!).
I'm still waiting. Next wave is a new day for competition between HTC and Samsung. I'm excited.
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HTC vs. Samsung
body vs. screen
looks vs. graphics performance
I'm waiting for the coming wave. The OG Droid opened the doors for the 2010 wave, but the N1 was the best buy two years ago because it was the first that could stand in line with the new wave of superphones (1 GHz, OLED, etc.). The GN may have started the new wave of 2012, but it's not gonna stand with the rest of the quad-cores (and it's missing external storage?!??!).
I'm still waiting. Next wave is a new day for competition between HTC and Samsung. I'm excited.
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Agreed, Tegra 3 phones may start the new wave with the 5th low power core. Seems fairly revolutionary to me.
A friend has a galaxy note and loves it. The fonts are larger on the home screen for vision impaired. This week is CES so maybe HTC will have some surprises.
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Yeah, I'm waiting for a good HTC phone to come out to replace my N1. I can't stand the plasticy feel of the SGII or the Galaxy Nexus.
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Well HTC released the amazed 4g great looks and build quality. Now if your waiting for a HTC with plain android you might have to wait a while.
NEVER! Their phones are made of cheap plastic. After spending so much on a phone, you atleast would like to get a good feel of the phone....not like the ones samsung makes.
HTC Rocks....All time!!! They know how to make phones.
I switched from my much loved N1 to the Galaxy Nexus, and I'm pleasantly surprised! There are things about the GN I don't care for, but I can't see me switching back...
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I switched from my much loved N1 to the Galaxy Nexus, and I'm pleasantly surprised! There are things about the GN I don't care for, but I can't see me switching back...
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Can you elaborate?
Specifically, does it fit in your pocket? front pant's pocket? (trousers )
Which case do you use?
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I don't use a case, and it fits in my pocket perfectly. In fact, I had an issue with the N1 falling horizontal in my pocket, which was uncomfortable - I no longer have that issue.
Build quality looks great, though I do love the N1 more. Feel is much better on the GN, much more responsive, and smooth - but then again, what would you expect for the specs?
The LED notifications aren't as cool as the N1, and the lack of trackball can be a pain...
tried the gn at verizon as i am only a year into 2 year tmo contract, can't buy
loved size and text reading
build seemed ok, not as good as n1--but it was strapped down
8-13 mb dl's on speedteast
no smoother than n1 ics rom i am on--imho
faster webbrowsing--but seemed no faster than my wifi which clocks in at 4-5mb
didn't like menu buttons
when scrolling there is a jitter and out of focus look, then it refocuses
will look at sgsII at tmo, but will, with contract restrictions, probably be looking at quads
It's certainly not way ahead of the pack, like the N1 was when it was released (and for a long time afterwards)...
People are reporting 10 - 15 mb downloads on 4g, but it never get anything like that in this area (with 5 different phones)
I recommend you ditch the contract with T-Mo if you can. No contact options are about $20 a month less than contact, which is $480 over the 2 year duration. Just a suggestion...
thanks DR
I have 3 phones on the contract, may not be financially smart atm
will look into it--was hoping for tmo to pick it up--like the speed and large text
do you have the scroll jitter and focus issue I described, may be normal
was looking at new blaze coming to tmo also--42mb phone
http://wirelessandmobilenews.com/2012/01/samsung-galaxy-blaze-4g-hd-spec-revealed-nexus-hd.html
but as you know, the n1 seems ageless with running ics now--tough choices