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Sony Ericsson forces us to close XperiaBlog.net
by XB on October 19, 2011
in News
It is with great sadness that we have to bring you the news that this will be the last post on this website. Sony Ericsson has filed a formal complaint about the use of the trademarked ‘Xperia’ name in our domain name and have requested that the domain names, including that of XperiaX10.net, be transferred to them.
Sony Ericsson is alleging that we have used the domain names in “bad faith”. We are stunned and disappointed that Sony Ericsson, a company that we have spent much of our free personal time in promoting, especially the Xperia brand, has decided to take this formal action against us. After all we are just like you, passionate Sony Ericsson users, who have strived to bring the community breaking news and an independent viewpoint.
We do not have the resources to fight Sony Ericsson on this and therefore this is the last you will hear from us. Sony Ericsson has made great strides in its Xperia portfolio, especially in listening to the community. This makes it all the more confusing as to why Sony Ericsson would want to shut us down. We genuinely believe that 2012 could be a bumper year for the company, we just wish we could have been there along for the ride.
All the best.
Tej
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this is really sad, they were the blog i always went to to get the latest info! Shame Sony Ericsson!
Shame Sony Ericsson!
That's bad, I hope they open up a new site.
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Thats utterly shocking, why support developers and custom rom makers on xda then go and force others with the same ideas and in my view not using the xperia name wrongly at all, quite the opposite infact, shame on sony ericsson indeed
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Technically SE is correct, Xperia is their trade mark that they have registered no one is supposed to use it. But it's really bad that they are asking to shutdown after having such a success with the blog. If they had a problem with the blog they should told them when they started it.
Yeah i agree from a legal point of view it is very understandable, what SE could have done is taken control of the domains and the blog but kept the starter of the blog and others as moderators, that way they get their xperia name not being misused by unauthorised people but still have the blog going, plus consumers would still be happy as we would still have our beloved blog
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Shame to SE for being hard on their fan base. But, legally can they do this? What if XperiaBlog is claimed as one word?
LOL! After 12 years of worship to Ericsson - SE it's the first time that I say and I mean that I'm going Samsung! Enough with the SE bull$hit! Galaxy nexus!! Here I come!!!! :-D
PS: Screw u SE!! $%#*
Lancerfq said:
Yeah i agree from a legal point of view it is very understandable, what SE could have done is taken control of the domains and the blog but kept the starter of the blog and others as moderators, that way they get their xperia name not being misused by unauthorised people but still have the blog going, plus consumers would still be happy as we would still have our beloved blog
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XperiaBlog has also written some critical posts about updates for the X10 etc. I don't think SE appreciated that.
Another bad turn when the site posted the comparison between Arc S and iPhone 4S when it should've just let the Chinese community handle it...
unknown13x said:
Another bad turn when the site posted the comparison between Arc S and iPhone 4S when it should've just let the Chinese community handle it...
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Sorry, I did not understand what you meant?
batman_112 said:
Sorry, I did not understand what you meant?
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SE is always sensitive to what sites put down about their product. When you put out something that may reflect negatively, which it did against the Arc S in the camera comparison, it's not a surprised result. Since the site is also using Xperia in its name and actually damaging it's reputation (may be not alot, but it still does). Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
Sites like Mobile-Review was also abandoned for the same reason, alot of premature conclusions and no filtering to what is posted. Not that I want press to censor their opinions, but some opinions/assertions were far from true.
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SE is always sensitive to what sites put down about their product. When you put out something that may reflect negatively, which it did against the Arc S in the camera comparison, it's not a surprised result. Since the site is also using Xperia in its name and actually damaging it's reputation (may be not alot, but it still does). Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
Sites like Mobile-Review was also abandoned for the same reason, alot of premature conclusions and no filtering to what is posted. Not that I want press to censor their opinions, but some opinions/assertions were far from true.
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Aha, I see you what you mean.
Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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thatsupnow said:
Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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yeahh it's easy and legit
thatsupnow said:
Why not keep the site going just change the name just enough so no legal action can be taken
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Changing the name of the site would be easy but SE wants the domain name. Setting up another website with the same content would be time consuming and a major pain in the arse.
It's a shame considering all the effort they've put in maintaining it and updating it with the latest info.
And it's not like they were cyber-squatters or anything.
I don't think that stories like
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/09/0...2-with-1-5ghz-dual-core-4-3-inch-720p-screen/
or
http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/10/1...icsson-walkman-w23i-with-dual-core-processor/
were perceived with pleasure over at SE's HQs... Still a shame though.
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Think about a scenario where I want to know more about the product. I found the site, oh hey, it has Xperia in it. Seems like a good site to find out good reviews. You step in, and you find criticism on it. Would you have a good impression on the product? I've worked on many club sites under SE, and many were closed down for the same reason.
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Actually this is what happened to me when I first started looking for xperia info some time ago, I thought it was an official site so I was surprised to read some of the posts.
For that reason I can understand why SE have taken this action. On the other hand, theres no reason why xperiablog cannot start up under a fresh name, if they have so many followers already it wont be so hard to spread the word.
They could, but from my knowledge, there are 2 reasons they're demanding the close. First is to prevent any damage to their brand from the site, and the other is to demand the xperiablog domain. I'm sure xperiablog.com will be popping up soon from them, which they have the authority to do since the word "xperia" is their's to begin with. So to prevent any confusions for people who hit SHIFT+ENTER instead of CTRL+ENTER wouldn't be redirected to the wrong site.
http://xperiablog.net has been asked to relinquish both that domain and XperiaX10.net and hand them to Sony Ericsson. They have been accused of using the Xperia brand "in bad faith" and they can't fight against such a behemoth. It's a shame that one of the top sites about our phones gets the axe in such a jerkass way.
Can Sony do that? I know if you're just holding on to the domain (Like walmart.com or target.com or something) and doing nothing it's cyber squatting but if you're actively posting updating and whatever and not selling it-it's yours?
Another reason to boycott sony products
This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by Sony Ericsson. SONY ERICSSON, XPERIA, and various product names found on this website are trademarks of Sony Ericsson unless otherwise noted.
xperiablog
thats why it got shutdown.
whereas sites like playstation.blog are official websites supported by S0NY
I read some updates and decent reviews from them.. Too bad that they are closing now..
As you can guess, we're afraid now in Xperia.Es that done jerkass decides to send a similar letter.
Clienterror said:
Can Sony do that?
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They just did
I know if you're just holding on to the domain (Like walmart.com or target.com or something) and doing nothing it's cyber squatting but if you're actively posting updating and whatever and not selling it-it's yours?
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Companies take trademarks and brand image very seriously. It is well within their legal rights to protect it, if there is justification. In this case there is justification, as Xperia is a trademark of Sony Ericsson, and they felt their brand was not being handled properly.
Even Microsoft made a person give up their domain name because it phonetically sounded like "Microsoft."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_vs._MikeRoweSoft
They're so lame. Communities and people like them are what makes a company big, when someone goes online to check on a product and finds that it has so many followers, fansites dedicated to it, reviews and a lot of support, we like the product and know that even if the company turns their back on us (most of the time) the community will be there to help us.
Good luck on your site Logseman, let's hope it stays there for a long time.
hairdewx said:
In this case there is justification, as Xperia is a trademark of Sony Ericsson, and they felt their brand was not being handled properly.
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I call bull**** on this.
These guys were enthusiasts of Sony Ericsson's products, and they had been informing about all things Xperia for a long while, without any bad faith or slander against Sony Ericsson. Were they to come to court, they would prove it. They have decided not to because they can't or aren't willing to pay to defend what is self evident.
This kind of statements, aside of reeking of corporate slavery, are completely false as well. There are heaps of sites dedicated to bash Apple every day. Since those guys know that there is no such thing as bad press, they don't act against them. Meanwhile, Sony Ericsson, which has been struggling for years in the market, chooses to strangle one of its greatest unofficial feelgood spreaders. Way to go!
We should be thankful that both HTC and o2, Really don't care that XDA are using there name
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...and they wonder why some people were so happy when they got hacked.
I love my Play, but screw Sony.
Red_Kop said:
...and they wonder why some people were so happy when they got hacked.
I love my Play, but screw Sony.
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the hackers are still arses to hack Sony. -.-
Either way , ask sony to make an official Xperiablog like playstation.blog.eu/us .
Or create a FB page xP
I know the bad faith thing sounds bad but they have only asked for the domains haven't they?
The guys behind the site could set up another that doesn't use the branding.
With such a domain a lot of people may think it's an official site, which is why they have asked for it.
Cat_On_Droid said:
the hackers are still arses to hack Sony. -.-
Either way , ask sony to make an official Xperiablog like playstation.blog.eu/us .
Or create a FB page xP
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Sony Ericsson has its own official sphere with its official product and development blogs, its own official forums and so on. It goes against its own interests to smother what outside people are saying, particularly when they're enthusiasts of your products.
Take another example: Cyanogen Mod does not endorse Sony Ericsson closely or market their phones in any way, yet the CM7 team received hardware and support from them. If they are willing to help people who, so to say, are outsiders, how come are they lawyering against insiders who were willing to spread the awareness of their brand?
I really hope they're just after the domain name and aren't actually looking to shut the site down. I can understand Sony wanting to protect trademarks, but I can't understand why they'd be opposed to the content of the blog.
In 2012 Motorola announced she would upgrade our devices, Atrix and Photon, to Ice Cream Sandwich in Q3. As you all know, they have changed their stance, leaving us with an outdated version of Android to play with. Our devices can easily run even the last version of Android, Jelly Bean, so why the update was canceled for us?
With the Update My Moto! campaign, we are asking for a leak of what was been done before they canceled the update or a compatible Tegra 2 kernel for Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean. With these files, XDA developers can fix the problems themselves, while Motorola can make up for this mistake they made.
You can help us to achieve that. Share this campaign in your blog, social network, show it to your friends or file a BBB complaint. Let's grab Motorola's attention!
ACCESS THE WEBSITE
Share the campaign
Helping the campaign is pretty easy. If you spread the campaign, you are helping already!
Share on Twitter
Share on Facebook
Share on Google Plus
Share on Digg
Share on Reddit
Share on Pinterest
If you have a personal blog, you can also write about the campaign and ask your readers to help to share it. Even if they don't have an Atrix or a Photon, they might share and help us with the campaign
Sharing with images
You can save the images bellow and share on Facebook, Google Plus and other social networks or blogs, just don't forget to share the campaign's link too!
http://i50.tinypic.com/2it38zt.jpg
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I will add more when we got them. If you want to add one here, just leave a message with the link for the image
Use our signature!
You can also use the Update My Moto signature, to help us spread the word on XDA Developers and other forums! You just have to copy and paste the code bellow:
[URL ="http://www.updatemymoto.com/"][ CENTER][ IMG]http://ubuntucdn.ubuntubrsc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/updatemymoto.jpg[ /IMG][ /CENTER][ /URL]
Just take the spaces out. It looks nice, don't worry
In the wild
What blogs and websites wrote about this campaign so far?
Ubuntu-BR-SC: Insatisfeitos com a Motorola, usuários criam a campanha "Update My Moto";
Diário do Android: Motorola confirma o que já se sabia: o Atrix não receberá o Android 4.0 oficialmente;
Android Authority: Google, Motorola urged to leak Ice Cream Sandwich / Jelly Bean internal ROMs for Atrix 4G, Photon;
BR-Linux: usuários iniciam campanha para que Motorola mantenha compromisso de atualização do Android;
Talk Android: Developer starts ‘Update My Moto!’ campaign in effort to obtain Tegra 2 ICS drivers for Atrix 4G and Photon 4G;
Android Spin: Update My Moto!!!;
Android TV: Verärgerte Motorola-Kunden starten Online-Petition für Quellcode-Freigabe;
Geek On: Walka o Atrixa jeszcze nie została zakończona;
Android Headlines: Update my Moto! Google, and Motorola urged to “leak” internal ICS/Jelly Bean ROMs;
MIUI ROM: On they Facebook page;
Epinter's CM10 website;
Atrix Forums: Update My Moto - A Social Campaign to Bring us ICS;
Phandroid: Apple vs Samsung Jury Foreman Speaks Out, Moto RAZR i Smokes RAZR M In Battery Life, and More;
CNET: Android users outraged over Motorola's broken promise;
Gemind: Gemcast #049.
Help us to get it in the wild
You can help us to get the campaign in the wild. Do you know someone with a large followers count at Twitter? Ask him to RT the campaign! A friend of yours is a writer at a big website? Ask him to cover the campaign! You have 2 minutes free? Send a e-mail to big websites, asking them to talk about the campaign!
Gizmodo: tipbox [at] gizmodo [dot] com
Gizmodo Brasil: http://www.gizmodo.com.br/mande-sua-dica/
Techcrunch: tips [at] techcrunch [dot] com
The Next Web: http://thenextweb.com/tips/
OMG! Ubuntu!: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/tip/
Android Police: http://www.androidpolice.com/contact/
Android and Me: http://androidandme.com/contact/
Campaign Partners
You should also take a look at the Support My Moto campaign. While we are focusing on a viral and social approach, they are going for a BBB one, that could work as well.
Take a look there. Won't hurt you to file a complaint and i promise it will only take you about 2 minutes of your day
Contact details
You can reach me at this e-mail: julianfernandes AT ubuntu DOT com
You can also find me on Twitter and at our Ubuntu LoCo Team's blog, Ubuntu-BR-SC.
Thanks and credits
I wanna thank TheOnePom for paying for our domain name, the great guys at RamNode for offering us this great VPS for such a low price, Fishmoose for the campaign's name and, off course, everyone who gave suggestions, ideas and helped me out on the original thread!
Time to kick some Moto butt!
FYI, the site is still not up.
Edit:
It's up!
upndwn4par said:
Time to kick some Moto butt!
FYI, the site is still not up.
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It's up here. DNS probably did not propagate on your place yet :/
Hey guys! First news about us:
(in portuguese)
http://diariodoandroid.com.br/fabricantes/motorola/motorola-confirma-o-que-ja-se-sabia-o-atrix-nao-recebera-o-android-4-0-oficialmente/29214/
I like the website. Looks really nice. I do think its lacking information.
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Hey guys! First news about us:
(in portuguese)
http://diariodoandroid.com.br/fabricantes/motorola/motorola-confirma-o-que-ja-se-sabia-o-atrix-nao-recebera-o-android-4-0-oficialmente/29214/
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Awesome!
djluis48 said:
I like the website. Looks really nice. I do think its lacking information.
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Me and Loki are talking about this. While his campaign will focus on BBB, more phones and more info, this one will focus on viral action. We will partner up
julian_fern said:
Me and Loki are talking about this. While his campaign will focus on BBB, more phones and more info, this one will focus on viral action. We will partner up
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Glad to hear this. Unity is something that will give us great strength, but if don't work together, the efforts will be in vain.
UPDATE
Added some websites to the list
If you are a website owner and want to write about the campaign (or already did), let me know please
Made more news!
http://www.androidauthority.com/goo...ly-bean-internal-roms-atrix-4g-photon-120089/
I also tweeted/shared the article/this thread!
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Deggy said:
Made more news!
http://www.androidauthority.com/goo...ly-bean-internal-roms-atrix-4g-photon-120089/
I also tweeted/shared the article/this thread!
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Thanks for sharing! Article added to the thread
Added partnership banner that links to the Update My Moto site on the Support My Moto site.
Lokifish Marz said:
Added partnership banner that links to the Update My Moto site on the Support My Moto site.
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Thanks Loki
Gonna do it tomorrow too, since i'm leaving with my gf now.
Thank you "Android Authority"
Made a banner if you want to use. The least Motorola could do is give us what they started, it's not like they're going to finish anyways.
QBKing77 will be covering this issue and have a video up tomorrow. Between Update My Moto's social sharing and Support My Moto's backing we may pull this off or at least put a serious red mark in Moto's profits.
Good job. A few suggestions:
1. I'm not sure you want to ask for a "leak." We want a release, even if it's incomplete.
2. The kernel alone does no good. We need the HALs.
3. There are some grammatical errors.
Suggested rewording:
In February 2012, Motorola announced that the Atrix 4G and Photon 4G would receive upgrades to Ice Cream Sandwich. In September, they cancelled the upgrade, leaving us with an outdated version of Android. Many of us purchased our phones in anticipation of the upgrade. Many are locked into long-term carrier contracts which prevent us from upgrading our phones.
With this campaign, we are asking that Motorola release an upgrade or whatever work has already been completed on it. Even with an incomplete release, we may be able to develop a working version ourselves.
You can help us to achieve that. Share this campaign on your blog or social network, show it to your friends, or file a Better Business Bureau complaint. Let's grab Motorola's attention!
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Found another one!
http://androidheadlines.com/2012/10...rged-to-leak-internal-icsjelly-bean-roms.html
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MIUI is helping us!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=422685204457727
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MIUI is helping us!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=422685204457727
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Let's keep in going
There needs to be a YouTube video on that main page with a good background info on the story and negative rant against Motorola and Google for their part. Not only will it make the website more "alive" with actual human depth, but the video can also be seen on YouTube and shared. Who knows, maybe it will lead to more people posting videos and voicing their opinions. The negative publicity might force Motorola to take action.
Be A Part Of Team Pongnamu!
We currently aim for 2010 Xperias but will soon aim for 2011, 2012, 2013 Xperias
We are going to develop many cool ROMs and more!
So, I made a team and the current members are: pongnamu and muhammed cambaz.
We are going to look for your passion for developing more than your skill.
In here, all of you have chances to get selected!
So, EVERYONE CAN REGISTER EVEN YOU ARE NEW OR NOT GOOD AT DEVELOPMENT IF YOU THINK YOU CAN HELP US.
What are you waiting for? Please go to HERE to register and find out more information.
I will accept registration until JAN 31.
We will send you email if you got selected and advanced to Q2 (Almost every people advanced to Q2 will get selected).
We welcome you from any manufacter or phone!
We are waiting for you!
Could u give more information please? Is this some kind of UNIVERSAL XPERIA team? Probably I would be interested...
Message sent to the official page
luiseteyo said:
Could u give more information please? Is this some kind of UNIVERSAL XPERIA team? Probably I would be interested...
Message sent to the official page
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Thanks It is kind of like universal xperia dev team... Think of FXP. We will do such in a group. Not only one ROM like cm, but many ROMs. This team will be mixed with wannable developers, themers, and much more to create really wonderful projects
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Hello everyone,
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Plus, the prizes are great:
-€2.000 if you win your category.
-€10.000 if you win the contest as the "overall winning app", and support from the Provincial Council of Biscay for the implementation of your project in the Basque Country.
Be quick! The registration period ends the 30th of June.
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