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Hey everyone quick question. If a T-mobile customer in the U.S. were to order an unlocked magic branded with the Vodafone logo, could they still update the phone and such when the U.S. version hits in July. Say that U.S. T-mobile has sent out an update for their phone, could the person who has the Vodafone version update as well? I am debating about ordering an unlocked magic from Timtechs.com to use here in the U.S. and was wondering what were the possible drawbacks, besides 3G, that I may face.
For the same price (or less actually) as the vodaphone imports you can get one of the Google ION phones off of ebay if you're looking for something a little more interesting.
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
I have debated on ordering one, but am afraid of possibly receiving just a box lol. Actually the area of texas i live at doesn't have 3G yet, I am always running the E - EDGE network so it really doesn't bother me.
sherifone said:
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
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ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
bobdude5 said:
ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
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Got one for $400 practically new. Camera is decent but no AF and flash suck ball.
or get the one of the ones Rogers is releasing tomorrow in Canada..
Well, would it be the same version that the U.S. should be getting? if i could find a good canadian website that would ship to the U.S. I may be looking into this lol.
I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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joeyyoung said:
I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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No since it has different 3G radio.
Rogers version will work since it has the same 3G bands as AT&T (850 and 1900).
Hey, wait....so since it has the same bands as AT&T...would that be the same as T-Mobile? Any one know a good canadian retailer who ships to the U.S.?
Just wanted to say bye, and thanks, to everyone in the G1 Forum.
I've now sold my G1 and got a desire (which is awesome and dare I say it 10x better than the G1).
Thanks to everyone who has given me support, SuperD, Cyanogen and anyone else's rom I've used.
I'm waiting for a US release so I can use 3G or maybe even 4G. Hope you have fun with your desire.
Ace42 said:
I'm waiting for a US release so I can use 3G or maybe even 4G. Hope you have fun with your desire.
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but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
Klyentel said:
but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
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Oh your right but I still want the Dell Mini 5 too.
._. any android phone is better then the g1. It's outdated, but I still love it
brummiesteven said:
Just wanted to say bye, and thanks, to everyone in the G1 Forum.
I've now sold my G1 and got a desire (which is awesome and dare I say it 10x better than the G1).
Thanks to everyone who has given me support, SuperD, Cyanogen and anyone else's rom I've used.
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I'm Jealous of you European People
I hope T-Mobile USA get some awesome HTC SENSE android love. All we got is the g1, the mytouch line, and those $h!tty motoblur devices.
Klyentel said:
but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
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USA 3G bands are "special." With the Desire you can't get 3G with either AT&T or T-Mobile.
Just to let you guys know, apparently it's coming out in Australia on some network that uses the same 3G Bands as the USA.
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USA 3G bands are "special." With the Desire you can't get 3G with either AT&T or T-Mobile.
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Oh ok, thanks for the info, I wasn't sure
Out of curiosity, how much did you get for your G1? Sell it on ebay?
NickPDX said:
Out of curiosity, how much did you get for your G1? Sell it on ebay?
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£130 on ebay, pretty decent as I didn't sell the SD Card with it.
I had intended to sell the 16gb SD Card, Phone (Boxed) and Motorola s9 wireless earphones.
The buyer wanted me to end the auction early and offered £130 for the phone only, guess I got lucky.
Same here, i got my Desire on Saturday and couldn't be happier with it!
Though i'm a sucker and gave my G1 to my dad, keep it in the family and all
Gonna sell my Hero though, i saw they still fetch around £180 on ebay...
ok, i am pretty happy with my x10a but will be travelling to key west florida in about a month. what id like to know is whats the latest android device in the usa with a hard keyboard? ive heard about the droid global but not much. im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology so id like to pickup a new device as good or better than the x10. i do a massive amount of texting which is why im thinking of the hard keyboard option. i am also with rogers canada so i would need advice as to what phones would even be compatible on their network, and obiously be able to sim unlock it.
i look forward to your guys opinion, as im lost on devices outside of canada thanks guys!
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ptesmoke said:
im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology
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The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
batman_112 said:
The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
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lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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currently on Rogers there is nothing special .
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lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
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at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
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at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
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so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers? i understand rogers is 850 and 1900mhz for both gsm and umts...
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers?
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
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For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700. Most European/Asian/Middle Eastern countries use 2100. South America and Australia, use a mix of both depending on the operator.
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For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700.
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ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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ptesmoke said:
ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
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Yeah, definitely SIM unlocked so you can switch between Rogers and at&t.
so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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any suggestions?
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ptesmoke said:
so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
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you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
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any suggestions?
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You could go into a AT&T store while you are here, and get a free "GO" phone which is a monthly prepaid thing for your stay. And get a Google Voice number before you leave.
Leave the X10 connected and set it to forward the calls to the Google Voice (I don't know if Rogers would charge you for this or you would need a US google number or not) and link the Google Voice to your temporary Go phone. Depending on how much you were willing to pay, you could get a free flip phone or pay for anything up to a blackberry.
You would need access at least once to a PC after getting the phone to reconfigure Google to transfer the calls and SMS the phone with the texted version of any voice message.
Even Walmart has these too: http://www.walmart.com/ip/AT-T-Nokia-C3-Prepaid-GoPhone-Blue/15140306
the HTC desire Z seems like a viable option!
To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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alankstiyo said:
you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
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right but im looking for a replacement so id need a device that would work on the rogers bands. desire z eh? well i wont buy from bell, they overcharge for everything. whats the selling points on the desire z? and who sells them in the key west area that would work on rogers?
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badhobz said:
To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
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yea rogers was quick with the x10 but that was about it! they seem to be pushing the crapple4 lately, they keep offering me deals on them but they dont realize theyd have to pay ME to take one..
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ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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ptesmoke said:
ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
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Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
Rockjock007 said:
Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
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well im not worried about warranty as ive never used it, i usually buy a new device every year anyways. but i need to figure out if i can find a desire z in the u. s for cheaper..
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i have a mytouch 4g and it was kool at first. but lately, i only use it for a few sites and barely use anything else. so i'm thinking of getting an xperia play so i can make more use of my phone. so my question is, can i use this phone for t-mobile? i went to sony style and they only have the verizon one and the guy who works there said i can't use it for tmobile. thanks
tigerin said:
i have a mytouch 4g and it was kool at first. but lately, i only use it for a few sites and barely use anything else. so i'm thinking of getting an xperia play so i can make more use of my phone. so my question is, can i use this phone for t-mobile? i went to sony style and they only have the verizon one and the guy who works there said i can't use it for tmobile. thanks
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I think T-Mobile (USA) use the same 3G frequencies as the R800I, I'm not sure, you should check
AndroHero said:
I think T-Mobile (USA) use the same 3G frequencies as the R800I, I'm not sure, you should check
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seems like no one on tmobile is interested in this phone. i google it for the last few days and still haven't got a full answer yet. =(
and are there a differences on these two devices?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...mp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B004N861MG
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http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson-R800IEUBLK-Unlocked-Slide-Out/dp/B004PYEIXW/ref=pd_cp_cps_1
tigerin said:
seems like no one on tmobile is interested in this phone. i google it for the last few days and still haven't got a full answer yet. =(
and are there a differences on these two devices?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...mp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B004N861MG
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http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Ericsson-R800IEUBLK-Unlocked-Slide-Out/dp/B004PYEIXW/ref=pd_cp_cps_1
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No there both the R800I model
Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.
i have one also people claim they can activaite with t-mobile or att but not verizon or sprint
rhoth1973 said:
Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.
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Huh?
I haven an H815. Its most certainly not just wifi, matter of fact the Wifi is only good for data, not calls. I have it working with T-Mobile with no issues.
rhoth1973 said:
Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.
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Lol why the hell would it be wifi only... Not sure how people get this info and actually believe it.
kirdroid said:
Lol why the hell would it be wifi only... Not sure how people get this info and actually believe it.
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It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.
rhoth1973 said:
It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.
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It won't ever work with your Sprint SIM because the H815 model is GSM only - and Sprint is CDMA
rhoth1973 said:
It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.
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The answer used to be Sprint is CDMA not GSM so you have the wrong phone if I am correct. Sorry. But now that they have LTE....
LTE is the same functionally (not bands though) among carriers. You may need to call Sprint and see if they have some sort of blocking enabled for that device.
More Info http://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Can-I-use-my-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
Bummer
Funk2641 said:
It won't ever work with your Sprint SIM because the H815 model is GSM only - and Sprint is CDMA
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That is a bummer...
rhoth1973 said:
That is a bummer...
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You can always sell it and order sprints model http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-for-sprint-launching-june-5-pre-orders-begin-today/
I see the light!
rahlquist said:
You can always sell it and order sprints model http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-for-sprint-launching-june-5-pre-orders-begin-today/
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Yes that I could! Thank you! :good:
rahlquist said:
Huh?
I haven an H815. Its most certainly not just wifi, matter of fact the Wifi is only good for data, not calls. I have it working with T-Mobile with no issues.
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I am about to order one from ebay (h815). I'm not sure if that will work with tmo since it's missing the aws 1700/2100 3g band. Isn't that a necessary band for mms?
Also looks like it's missing lte 12 but doesn't matter since Chicago hasn't been approved for that band anyway and it'll be a while before that happens.
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I am about to order one from ebay (h815). I'm not sure if that will work with tmo since it's missing the aws 1700/2100 3g band. Isn't that a necessary band for mms?
Also looks like it's missing lte 12 but doesn't matter since Chicago hasn't been approved for that band anyway and it'll be a while before that happens.
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Havent had any trouble with mms, sending photos from my G4 on t-mo to wifes G3.
What are the differences between the F500 and the H815? Here in Australia, the F500 is approximately $100 more expensive than the H815 on eBay. Of course, it hasn't been released yet and I believe that, when it is released, it will cost around $900. ( -_-)
In Australia, if you're with Telstra and want the new 4GX network, you need the 815 or 815T. You need one that has 700MHz(B28) band, and it seems both of them do have this. If you're with Optus, the 815 is missing an LTE band and you'd be best going for the 815T.
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In Australia, if you're with Telstra and want the new 4GX network, you need the 815 or 815T. You need one that has 700MHz(B28) band, and it seems both of them do have this. If you're with Optus, the 815 is missing an LTE band and you'd be best going for the 815T.
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I'm with the crappiest company; Vodafone. I didn't even know there were so many models of the G4. Thanks for that!
I don't use 4G/LTE. There's dodgy coverage in Perth and its suburbs (even just general 2G/3G) and I'm usually in reach of wifi.
I hope someone can make a list of all the models to make it easier to find the international model versus carrier models.
QD_AU on eBay are selling them for AU$799 - great price! It's the Taiwan version, the 815: http://stores.ebay.com.au/QD-Shopping-Centre/_i.html?_nkw=h815&submit=Search&_sid=138021041
They're a reputable store with lots of great feedback on places like Whirlpool.
I'm about to pull the trigger on one
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QD_AU on eBay are selling them for AU$799 - great price! It's the Taiwan version, the 815: http://stores.ebay.com.au/QD-Shopping-Centre/_i.html?_nkw=h815&submit=Search&_sid=138021041
They're a reputable store with lots of great feedback on places like Whirlpool.
I'm about to pull the trigger on one
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Ah, yeah. I saw that. Not a bad price but why is the leather-back version the same price as the plastic cover one?
Is the F500 the international variant or the H815? Which one do you think will get the fastest updates? I really want to switch from my Nexus 5. With Google's new Photos app coming later today, I'd love to take photos on the G4 and upload them.
Speed test on T-Mobile.
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DeadSOL said:
Ah, yeah. I saw that. Not a bad price but why is the leather-back version the same price as the plastic cover one?
Is the F500 the international variant or the H815? Which one do you think will get the fastest updates? I really want to switch from my Nexus 5. With Google's new Photos app coming later today, I'd love to take photos on the G4 and upload them.
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H815 is the international version I think. Yea, they're selling them all for the same price. on there.
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H815 is the international version I think. Yea, they're selling them all for the same price. on there.
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All righty. It does seem like the H815 is the international version.
I'll think about ordering it soon. I've already spent too much this month and I'm running out of money.