Hey everyone quick question. If a T-mobile customer in the U.S. were to order an unlocked magic branded with the Vodafone logo, could they still update the phone and such when the U.S. version hits in July. Say that U.S. T-mobile has sent out an update for their phone, could the person who has the Vodafone version update as well? I am debating about ordering an unlocked magic from Timtechs.com to use here in the U.S. and was wondering what were the possible drawbacks, besides 3G, that I may face.
For the same price (or less actually) as the vodaphone imports you can get one of the Google ION phones off of ebay if you're looking for something a little more interesting.
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
I have debated on ordering one, but am afraid of possibly receiving just a box lol. Actually the area of texas i live at doesn't have 3G yet, I am always running the E - EDGE network so it really doesn't bother me.
sherifone said:
It supports the american 3G bands as well. I paid 589 for mine.
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ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
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ahhh! your the one that got that deal! i was looking at the one too ahah i got mine for 517..well havent got it yet..but how is it do you like it? howz the camera? is it dark all the time like the g1?
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Got one for $400 practically new. Camera is decent but no AF and flash suck ball.
or get the one of the ones Rogers is releasing tomorrow in Canada..
Well, would it be the same version that the U.S. should be getting? if i could find a good canadian website that would ship to the U.S. I may be looking into this lol.
I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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I just received a Vodaphone HTC Magic version and I got the phone to work nicely on AT&T with the APN info. But, 3G does not work. It only shows EDGE. Does anyone know how to get the 3G to work? Or, is there a ROM that I can flash to?
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No since it has different 3G radio.
Rogers version will work since it has the same 3G bands as AT&T (850 and 1900).
Hey, wait....so since it has the same bands as AT&T...would that be the same as T-Mobile? Any one know a good canadian retailer who ships to the U.S.?
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First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...
Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.
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Thanks for the report. Could you confirm which umts band it has? Do you think if it will compatible with ATT and TMO-US's networks? Thanks.
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Here you go: GSM/GPRS/EDGE Bands: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
HSPA/UMTS Dual-Band: 850/1900 MHz
Best choice I think would be ATT for the 850 band (I think ATT is on 850?) It will work on Tmobile, but I'm not sure you would have 3G. Obviously being from Canada I'm not as familiar with their spectrums, but I'm sure someone else can confirm.
Same form factor as my HTC Ion.
It will have AT&T 3G since Rogers uses the same bands (850 and 1900).
T-Mobile customers have to wait until the Magic to be launched here in the States.
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First post from my new Rogers magic. Thought I would start a thread for Rogers users to discuss it. So far I'm loving the form factor compared to the g1!
Haven't rooted yet...
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Sweet. Just ordered mine on-line, a little disappointing they only had the Black Magic to choose from.
Congrats!
So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?
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So is there a website for people living in the U.S. to order a Rogers Magic, or is the Rogers branded Magic only available in Canada?
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Only available in Canada but you could probably find them on eBay or howardforums B/S/T.
Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?
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Ok, so if you find a retailer that has the Roger's Magic, would it be unlocked or specifically branded to Rogers, to where you would have to get an unlock code?
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I THINK, but don't quote me on this, that if you root the device you should be able to use it on other networks that use the same frequencies. I'm happy to be corrected if that's not the case...
Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL
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Dang, so I take it...it comes locked specifically for Rogers only? The last thing I want to do is root my $600 phone and probably...knowing my luck...f*ck it up LOL
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Just wait... THere will be enterprising ppl to figure out how to unlock it.
Yea I found two websites that sell the unlocked Vodafone version, IMPORTGSM.com and Timtechs.com but do not know how "GOOD" they are. I also just got an email from Rogers.com stating that their phones do come "locked"....ugh T-mobile USA needs to get on this phone already lol.
T-Mobile will release this within the next 3 weeks (end of June or early July). If you want to take advantage of T-Mobile US 3G, wait for the T-Mobile US version or get the Google Ion.
The Rogers HTC Magic is perfect for AT&T users since it has AT&T 3G bands.
Thanks backviet, read your answer over on howards also. I guess i will just have to wait, like you mentioned.....dang!
Yeah, just got mine as well. Things are looking good so far. Only bad spot is, is the exchange activesync that apparently doesnt work (not sure if it's some sort of extension that is needed...there's not much info on it). Anyone else get a problem synching up exchange and getting a "Failed to create the account" Error?
Going to try to solve that later today...
that's strange...i work at a rogers store and as i was playing with a magic today, and i had no problem connecting to our exchange server. you would think that both are running the same software so exchange support would be the same.
we're sold out of magic's so i won't be able to try it out till we get more.
i'm actually thinking about picking one up as well, although i'm not 100% sold on it, it's def. a much nicer device than the dream, at least imo.
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Hey guys, just picked up my Magic yesturday from Rogers and loving it. So much fun. Now I am wondering how do we upload pictures and music and videos onto our phone? I plugged it to my PC but unable to access the MicroSD card. Is there a program manager that needs to be downloaded first? Thanks
How do you Root the Rogers ones ?
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you cant just yet
Got myself one two days ago when it came, its pretty good... only problem i had was the wifi kept hanging a simple Settings -> Wifi -> menu -> advance > wifi sleep policy to "never" fixed it.... other than that its pretty good i plan to start some development on the android platform
I am aware that the Rogers version of the Magic will work fine with AT&T but I really want an unbranded version. Where can I get the unbranded with 850/1900 3G US frequencies? I am ready to buy either one but want to see prices on the unbranded before I jump to the Rogers. Anyone want to offer suggestions? Anyone got one to sell?
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I am aware that the Rogers version of the Magic will work fine with AT&T but I really want an unbranded version. Where can I get the unbranded with 850/1900 3G US frequencies? I am ready to buy either one but want to see prices on the unbranded before I jump to the Rogers. Anyone want to offer suggestions? Anyone got one to sell?
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I think the Rogers is your only route. Its the one i have; and really if you're gonna be rooting and changing the ROM's theres no way to tell it was ever a Rogers branded device, albiet from the Rogers logo on the back cover.
You can buy new battery covers that will replace the one with the "Roger's" name. If you're in the U.S. ever single T-Mobile store will have a variety of choices to choose from. They are for the myTouch but it's the same case The front of the Roger's phone doesn't say Rogers, instead it says HTC.
I went to the tmo store yesterday and got a "skull" battery cover (for $20!!!) and tried it on before leaving the mall, in seeing that it didnt fit quite right, iI returned it. If you have a Rogers Magic, it wont fit. That is if you're wiling to strip or break the plastic slides jamming it on. Sad. I was looking forward to leeching off the Tmo launch of the less capable myTouch...
Oh no! I had no idea. Why is the mytouch a lesser phone? Does it not have 288mb of ram?
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Oh no! I had no idea. Why is the mytouch a lesser phone? Does it not have 288mb of ram?
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Read around, it only has 192mb of RAM and is not rootable yet either.
not lesser just crippled.
Clinton
Oh wow, I just assumed that since it was a new released phone here in the US it would at least be the same specs as the Roger's version. Looks like I assumed wrong
Hey Everyone,
So I live in Germany but I will be visiting the USA for Thanksgiving weekend. I am contemplating buying the Tab for $550 at Best Buy on black Friday. So if I find it worth it, should I get the Sprint or T-Mobile one? Or can I even use either of them unlocked so I can use 3G with my German Fonic SIM card (I think it uses the O2 networks)?
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T-Mobile US and AT&T are your only options. You will have to SIM unlock them.
Sprint and Verizon use their own wireless transmission protocol that is, with a few exceptions, incompatible with the rest of the world. In particular, no SIM card
The biggest issue you will find is the lack of phone functionality on the US models.
You should however be able to flash a Euro firmware, and it's quite likely that you get both phone and 3G data on a European network. I couldn't definitively state that this is the case though!
Caveat Emptor!
Regards,
Dave
OK, so you think I would be able to get T-Mobile version, and it should work with the 3G connections in Europe? And if so, can I easily unlock it and put in my SIM card as I have done with other American smartphones I use here?
Thanks
I think you're better of getting the AT&T Tab since it will have the UMTS 850, 1900, 2100 bands, EU uses the 2100, you will have to flash the eu rom on it though... Wait, the TMO Tab also has 2100... IDK someone will have to chime in...
Here's a comparison of the US models and the international Tab:
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-T-Mobile,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-AT-T,Samsung-Galaxy-Tab/phones/4901,4900,4898
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Hey Everyone,
So I live in Germany but I will be visiting the USA for Thanksgiving weekend. I am contemplating buying the Tab for $550 at Best Buy on black Friday. So if I find it worth it, should I get the Sprint or T-Mobile one? Or can I even use either of them unlocked so I can use 3G with my German Fonic SIM card (I think it uses the O2 networks)?
Thanks
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You might double check.... cus based on my local store and the best buy website... they are only selling Verizon and Sprint tabs... I don't think the will be selling Tmos, according to a Best Buys rep.
But of course Tmo should have them in stock...
If the standard Euro Tab is available in your airport departure lounge, you should be able to pick one up on your outward bound journey VAT free. It might still be more expensive than a US one, but not by much (assuming they are priced similarly to the UK) and would probably be a better bet all round.
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Dave
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You might double check.... cus based on my local store and the best buy website... they are only selling Verizon and Sprint tabs... I don't think the will be selling Tmos, according to a Best Buys rep.
But of course Tmo should have them in stock...
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Oh man you are right sorry my mistake. Thanks for the suggestion Dave I will look for it at the airport and see what the price is.
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OK, so you think I would be able to get T-Mobile version, and it should work with the 3G connections in Europe? And if so, can I easily unlock it and put in my SIM card as I have done with other American smartphones I use here?
Thanks
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how bout you buy the euro tab and ill trade you for my tmous tab
tmobile or ATT is ur only option buddy unless u buy and sell it for some extra cash and uby what u really want
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tmobile or ATT is ur only option buddy unless u buy and sell it for some extra cash and uby what u really want
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Hi from italy....
One question: if i'll buy a Sprint gtab, will it work in italy like a simple wifi device? or i need some sort of activation?
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Hi from italy....
One question: if i'll buy a Sprint gtab, will it work in italy like a simple wifi device? or i need some sort of activation?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10538263&postcount=3
already answered
Ok guys the Dcomo SO-01c (japanese xperia) has been successfuly unlocked and working on the U.S 3G network
so you dont have to wait for SE USA or Rogers no more
the bands it uses are
GSM/GPRS/Edge 850/900/1800/1900
UMTS/HSPA bands 1/2/5/6
which is equivalent to 2100/1900/850/800
possibly WCDMA for verizon will work (correct me if i am wrong) which is a big positive on this japanese version , another positive is being available in three colors.
blue
pink
silver
the phone comes with a 16gb memory card
i ordered the pink color for someone and i will order a silver one for myself
so you dont have to wait for SE USA or Rogers no more
i am so glad that this has worked after so many people have doubted that it would work and been told not to waste my money.
i dont want to waste your time explaining my story on how i got the courage to risk trying one and how i found out it will work, but if you want to know i will gladly answer ur questions.
i found a japanese seller that happened to know some english and willing to help and luckily he had an ebay account.
he sold me the phone for $770 including superfast shipping. he said he could sell it to me for $720 on paypal but i chose ebay since it was my first time.
if you can find other sellers good luck . the phone at docomo is around $600 without shipping
i got called by FCC to fill a form and send it to them to be able to get cleared by customs which i did.
when i got the phone all i did was unlock it using ezSEMC and purchased 10 credits from a provider and took about 1 minute to unlock.
http://www.2shared.com/document/F9cAO3Z5/xperia_arc_unlock_instructions.html
it can also be unlocked via entering unlock code provided by cellunlocker.net($8) or other different sites
all you have to do is flash the LT15i rom or the Lt15a rom and you will be able to get the unlock code screen
user morita0107 has unlocked it by entering an unlock code after flashing the LT15 rom on it(same way as x10)
3G popped the moment i put the APN settings which i got help from nimche who has been a great deal of help and support. He has also uploaded the rom for the LT15a which i will flash later on.
download LT15a rom from here (thanks Nimche)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13206058&postcount=110
APN AT&T 3G settings provided by Nimche(show him thanks)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13206058&postcount=110
thank u NIMCHE and also
shutterpark
ferraripassion
morita0107
feel free to ask any questions . (Nimche can also answer if i get busy)
i have an ebay invoice up for grabs if anyone wants it for the black color
and i can contact the seller to prepare one for you if you want silver or pink
i have flashed the device with the LT15a rom and everything is working fine, even the Docomo logo in the begining dissappeared
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-PIVClzP0E
Good job. Finally you got your hand on an arc. at least I am not alone anymore.
When are you getting yours?
Glad it worked out for you! Enjoy your phone!
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Good job. Finally you got your hand on an arc. at least I am not alone anymore.
When are you getting yours?
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i ordered one today, and the seller was so impressive shipping so fast. if he ships today i will get it on monday
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Glad it worked out for you! Enjoy your phone!
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thank you
but its not mine . i have ordered a silver one
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i ordered one today, and the seller was so impressive shipping so fast. if he ships today i will get it on monday
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Nice, why I can't see you in IM? You are hiding.... Its nice. So decided to get Midnight blue?
Since I was forced into Midnight blue but now every time I look at my phone I want to die. It is very nice. Clean and wonderful.
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i ordered one today, and the seller was so impressive shipping so fast. if he ships today i will get it on monday
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I have a question for you. Where do I get ezSEMC? Is there an official website or something? I googled and came up with nothing.
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thank you
but its not mine . i have ordered a silver one
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Nice choice. I am debating whether to go for one or wait until the Arc successor is released? I am confused!
T-Mobile 3G
Would the 3G work on T-Mobile or is it only for AT&T?
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Would the 3G work on T-Mobile or is it only for AT&T?
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Only ATT. Tmobile needs 1700 frequency which arc doesn't support and I have not seen any in production. Sorry
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Nice choice. I am debating whether to go for one or wait until the Arc successor is released? I am confused!
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You want Acro? It coming this summer but it is not as thin as arc... @ this point I won't want to lose this thinness to NFC and Infrared but phone is nice.
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Would the 3G work on T-Mobile or is it only for AT&T?
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good question
i have just updated and added the bands that work on it . check back above.
im not sure what t-mobile uses i will check tonight and update if 3G works on tmobile
i guess nimche has answered
switching to att might work since tmobile might dissapear anyway
Man, i hate it, there no unlocked phones that would work on the 1700mhz for T-Mobile....i want to get a new phone but i have nothing to choose from...any suggestions? Thanks.
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Can you get online when you can. I have to ask some questions. Whenever...
Thanks.
$720 is WAY too much for me.....
I wish I could get it for $600...
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Ok guys the Dcomo SO-01c (japanese xperia) has been successfuly unlocked and working on the U.S 3G network
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This is fantastic news.
However... just one question remains for me:
Bootloader. Are you carrier-locked or free as the air we breathe?
You'll need 1700 mhz to get 3G on Tmobile, which the Arc doesn't have. If you can live with edge only on Tmo then no prob. No manufacturer supports AWS (1700 mhz) unless it's a Tmo US phone.
WCDMA actually refers to GSM band 850/1900 (I think those are the frequencies), regardless it is a GSM distinction not what you think of in the US as CDMA. So no, it won't work on Verizon. Even if it was a CDMA device you'd still have to get VzW to allow it's ESN on their network and that's not easy, not saying it's impossible, just difficult.
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You'll need 1700 mhz to get 3G on Tmobile, which the Arc doesn't have. If you can live with edge only on Tmo then no prob. No manufacturer supports AWS (1700 mhz) unless it's a Tmo US phone.
WCDMA actually refers to GSM band 850/1900 (I think those are the frequencies), regardless it is a GSM distinction not what you think of in the US as CDMA. So no, it won't work on Verizon. Even if it was a CDMA device you'd still have to get VzW to allow it's ESN on their network and that's not easy, not saying it's impossible, just difficult.
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well this phone in japan is not even used with sim card. Docomo uses cdma .
but i connot confirm the verizon thing.
i have tried a tmobile sim and it is only working on Edge, but the speed is OK.
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This is fantastic news.
However... just one question remains for me:
Bootloader. Are you carrier-locked or free as the air we breathe?
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i can't confirm this now , all i have done is network unlocked it and it is working on the AT&T 3G.
now i am flashing the LT15a rom that nimche has uploaded.
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well this phone in japan is not even used with sim card.
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That is entirely incorrect. DoCoMo uses SIM cards on all of their phones.
Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.
i have one also people claim they can activaite with t-mobile or att but not verizon or sprint
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Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.
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Huh?
I haven an H815. Its most certainly not just wifi, matter of fact the Wifi is only good for data, not calls. I have it working with T-Mobile with no issues.
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Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.
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Lol why the hell would it be wifi only... Not sure how people get this info and actually believe it.
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Lol why the hell would it be wifi only... Not sure how people get this info and actually believe it.
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It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.
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It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.
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It won't ever work with your Sprint SIM because the H815 model is GSM only - and Sprint is CDMA
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It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.
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The answer used to be Sprint is CDMA not GSM so you have the wrong phone if I am correct. Sorry. But now that they have LTE....
LTE is the same functionally (not bands though) among carriers. You may need to call Sprint and see if they have some sort of blocking enabled for that device.
More Info http://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Can-I-use-my-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
Bummer
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It won't ever work with your Sprint SIM because the H815 model is GSM only - and Sprint is CDMA
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That is a bummer...
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That is a bummer...
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You can always sell it and order sprints model http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-for-sprint-launching-june-5-pre-orders-begin-today/
I see the light!
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You can always sell it and order sprints model http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-for-sprint-launching-june-5-pre-orders-begin-today/
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Yes that I could! Thank you! :good:
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Huh?
I haven an H815. Its most certainly not just wifi, matter of fact the Wifi is only good for data, not calls. I have it working with T-Mobile with no issues.
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I am about to order one from ebay (h815). I'm not sure if that will work with tmo since it's missing the aws 1700/2100 3g band. Isn't that a necessary band for mms?
Also looks like it's missing lte 12 but doesn't matter since Chicago hasn't been approved for that band anyway and it'll be a while before that happens.
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I am about to order one from ebay (h815). I'm not sure if that will work with tmo since it's missing the aws 1700/2100 3g band. Isn't that a necessary band for mms?
Also looks like it's missing lte 12 but doesn't matter since Chicago hasn't been approved for that band anyway and it'll be a while before that happens.
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Havent had any trouble with mms, sending photos from my G4 on t-mo to wifes G3.
What are the differences between the F500 and the H815? Here in Australia, the F500 is approximately $100 more expensive than the H815 on eBay. Of course, it hasn't been released yet and I believe that, when it is released, it will cost around $900. ( -_-)
In Australia, if you're with Telstra and want the new 4GX network, you need the 815 or 815T. You need one that has 700MHz(B28) band, and it seems both of them do have this. If you're with Optus, the 815 is missing an LTE band and you'd be best going for the 815T.
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In Australia, if you're with Telstra and want the new 4GX network, you need the 815 or 815T. You need one that has 700MHz(B28) band, and it seems both of them do have this. If you're with Optus, the 815 is missing an LTE band and you'd be best going for the 815T.
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I'm with the crappiest company; Vodafone. I didn't even know there were so many models of the G4. Thanks for that!
I don't use 4G/LTE. There's dodgy coverage in Perth and its suburbs (even just general 2G/3G) and I'm usually in reach of wifi.
I hope someone can make a list of all the models to make it easier to find the international model versus carrier models.
QD_AU on eBay are selling them for AU$799 - great price! It's the Taiwan version, the 815: http://stores.ebay.com.au/QD-Shopping-Centre/_i.html?_nkw=h815&submit=Search&_sid=138021041
They're a reputable store with lots of great feedback on places like Whirlpool.
I'm about to pull the trigger on one
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QD_AU on eBay are selling them for AU$799 - great price! It's the Taiwan version, the 815: http://stores.ebay.com.au/QD-Shopping-Centre/_i.html?_nkw=h815&submit=Search&_sid=138021041
They're a reputable store with lots of great feedback on places like Whirlpool.
I'm about to pull the trigger on one
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Ah, yeah. I saw that. Not a bad price but why is the leather-back version the same price as the plastic cover one?
Is the F500 the international variant or the H815? Which one do you think will get the fastest updates? I really want to switch from my Nexus 5. With Google's new Photos app coming later today, I'd love to take photos on the G4 and upload them.
Speed test on T-Mobile.
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Ah, yeah. I saw that. Not a bad price but why is the leather-back version the same price as the plastic cover one?
Is the F500 the international variant or the H815? Which one do you think will get the fastest updates? I really want to switch from my Nexus 5. With Google's new Photos app coming later today, I'd love to take photos on the G4 and upload them.
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H815 is the international version I think. Yea, they're selling them all for the same price. on there.
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H815 is the international version I think. Yea, they're selling them all for the same price. on there.
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All righty. It does seem like the H815 is the international version.
I'll think about ordering it soon. I've already spent too much this month and I'm running out of money.