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Anyone with Froyo and OVERCLOCKED?

So now that I have Froyo, how do I overclock it?
I'm rooted with stock build (FRF50).
There have been a few tutorials out there but I'm not sure what is applicable now and whether they will still work.
If they do still work, can someone pls recommend a good one that will work for sure with Froyo?
Thanks lots in advance!

Hi there,
I've been running FroYo overclocked for a few days now and am absolutely loving it.
I'm running the leaked build that Paul uploaded, and running the pre-rooted kernel from Cyanogen. Other than that, I manage the CPU's speed with SetCPU, running at a max of 1113MHz.
The kernel can be found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686627

codesplice said:
Hi there,
I've been running FroYo overclocked for a few days now and am absolutely loving it.
I'm running the leaked build that Paul uploaded, and running the pre-rooted kernel from Cyanogen. Other than that, I manage the CPU's speed with SetCPU, running at a max of 1113MHz.
The kernel can be found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686627
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what he said...

Umm...
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...Android kernels don't get "rooted". Root on these phones simply means having the "su" app with suid set, and superuser.apk around to manage thos permissions. If you can put those two files in place with a stock kernel, and properly set the permissions, you have root.
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That said, there appear to be two "packaged" solutions to OC your FroYo:
Cyanogen's update.zip (not only does it put in an overclockable kernel, it also roots your phone).
Pershoot's newly-posted kernel (this is what I'm running...)
Of course, if you are brave, you can always "roll your own". People are clearly doing this, as there are FroYo Nexus One's out there showing 1.2ghz speeds.

big_adventure said:
Umm...
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...Android kernels don't get "rooted". Root on these phones simply means having the "su" app with suid set, and superuser.apk around to manage thos permissions. If you can put those two files in place with a stock kernel, and properly set the permissions, you have root.
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You also need ro.secure=0 in the default.prop file (of the ramdisk portion of boot.img). So you could say the kernel gets 'rooted' this way (correct me if I'm wrong).
(On the Motorola Milestone this is not possible even though you can add "su" and "Superuser.apk", although on the Droid you can)

has anyone really gotten a real world speed increase with the OC'ed cpu? Yes it can technically run faster, but do our phones ever really max out the cpu when we are using them? Personally I feel that the ram adds more to the speed of the phone than the cpu. But that just an opinion. I'll have to see about doing some testing to see what the active cpu levels are under use.

followinginsanity said:
has anyone really gotten a real world speed increase with the OC'ed cpu? Yes it can technically run faster, but do our phones ever really max out the cpu when we are using them? Personally I feel that the ram adds more to the speed of the phone than the cpu. But that just an opinion. I'll have to see about doing some testing to see what the active cpu levels are under use.
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You can see improvements with benchmarks, but as far as noticing a difference... no, not really. There's always the placebo effect of "wow, this is so much faster with a ~10% overclock", but I don't think it's really a difference that you can pick up on. There are a lot of other things that could account for a 10-15% performance difference at any given time.
Granted, I could tell more of a difference on 2.1 than I can on 2.2 Froyo's JIT capability improves the efficiency to the point that you really can't tell a difference at all. Under 2.1, I at least felt like the menus were just a little snappier. Everything is snappy under Froyo though.
Clear as mud, lol?

side by side with a stock clocked n1 was the only way i could see a differance.
but its not a drastic differance, like a stock droid vs 800 mhz droid

Over Clock Kernel - wifi error

I am running CM6 A013 with oc-legend-cm-2.6.29.6 kernel. Everything seems to be working just fine except for the wifi. Has anyone gotten the wifi to work with the oc kernels?
I read in another thread that we could take the wlan.ko file from an old ROM. Does anyone have a copy of this file or would anyone be willing to pull the file so that I can test it? I really appreciate it.

same situation here. neither kernels work with cm6's wifi and hotspot. can someone fix this please! i really want my wifi back! i didnt do a backup before hand!

Im looking at this and it looks easier than just replacing the entire kernel like you guys did, read here from that guy's post above:
"How to do it for kernel_legend_13be9c9c:
At first, you should read zanfur's post and his patch.
I just modified two tables in acpuclock-arm11.c excluding his having written.
1. modify cpufreq.c to let SetCPU to access freq tables
2. modify acpuclock-arm11.c to let HTC Legend be able to overclocking
3. modify msm7227_defconfig to disable PERFLOCK [optional]
You might not need modify defconfig when you use SetCPU which can purchase in Android Market.
SetCPU can disable PERFLOCK by setting. ([menu] -> [Perflock Disabler])"
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So, with that said, I would take that file or file(s) and replace them with the ones in our current kernel made for our phone... might work and your wifi won't be broken.

You guys are running a kernel made for a different device.

could some one say in plain english the exact steps to get the old kernel back? the one from CM6

lilhaiti said:
I am running CM6 A013 with oc-legend-cm-2.6.29.6 kernel. Everything seems to be working just fine except for the wifi. Has anyone gotten the wifi to work with the oc kernels?
I read in another thread that we could take the wlan.ko file from an old ROM. Does anyone have a copy of this file or would anyone be willing to pull the file so that I can test it? I really appreciate it.
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That kernel is not built for our wifi chip. The kernel needs to be built for the BCM chipset and not the TI. Further, the wifi module needs to be in sync with the kernel build. Android 101.
I am not sure what we are going to gain from overclocking. There just doesn't seem to be any end goal, other than bragging rights on a benchmark where the Aria can only hope to be among the best of the mediocre CPUs. If it's for flash - forget it. We don't have the instruction set required in the CPU. The downside is the potential to add instability and confuse test results for mods that can actually increase functionality.

I like overclocking and running a couple benchmarks once in a while. For day to day use I'm more interested in downclocking but only if it can increase battery life.
Sent from my HTC Liberty using XDA App

the extra speed of the OC makes a big different on the games, that's the reason I like it... Games run smoother with the OC kernel.... do the test.. try to run Abduction with the stock Kernel for a while and then with the OC.. you'll see the difference... also Live Wallpapers with the stock kernel is choppy... it is smooth with the OC.

Hell my nexus one has been over clocked since the day I got it (rooted that same day ) not that a 1ghz phone really needs it. Well the Nexus One maybe for gaming but my Captivate and Vibrant on the other hand doesn't need it period. You won't get better performance gaming with any other android handset out there to date. Still my Captivate is over clocked to 1.2ghz lol. Like I say there's something fun about pushing the limits.
It really just another thing to tweak and play around with on your device. It's always fun to push the limits.

There are several reason why I would like to overclock. 1. The 3D photo gallery loads photos really slow with the stock kernel, but with an overclocked kernel the pics loaded very quickly. 2. It's nice to run a 3D game or two without chopping. Just to name a couple. It would be nice to have an Aria kernel that works with all of the phones hardware. And showing off benchmark number is nice as well.

Trinity Kernel...1400mhz max?

I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?

Because he dropped the Max. You probably flashed A111 correct? That's a TSVZ meaning it is slightly over clocked and undervolted kernel meant for battery not for performance.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent White Tapatalk 2

U2Bono269 said:
I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ

Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
thanks

myke66 said:
Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
thanks
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.

simms22 said:
yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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Nice, ill have to look into rooting sometime soon.

Ok, I got the a96 and I've flashed it...
Is there a detailed changelog for each version? The a111 said it was a 1600mhz kernel so I don't understand why it was dropped down to 1400. That's where my confusion was.
I did notice some increase in speed at 1400. I was having some stuttering issues with Dead Trigger and Minecraft PE, and they were less with the 1400. I've got it running at 1600 now but I don't know what it will do to the battery or how well it will perform. I'll find out later. I've run through the battery pretty quickly today, but I was tinkering with it A LOT so it's not accurate.
What kind of tweaks could I do using Rom Toolbox that would help me maximize my battery while overclocking to 1.6?

Dont over clock.. i dont even see a need to. I use the ondemand gov which stutters a little but using interactive clears that up. Also using the CFQ IO as it is the stock IO used. Its stock so its gotta be good . Also you should turn F-Sync off that helps quite a bit. Also you could toggle auto hotplug and make it only run two cores while gaming and then turn it back on when finished so that way it will hotplug cores as it sees necessary. You could also up the voltages a little bit, some CPU's dont like the lower voltage and that will cause stuttering and glitching just up them by 25mV and see if it clears if not try another 25mV.

I will try those things, but I really want to play with overclocking and learn what happens. This is my first Android device so I'm experimenting and playing around.
But I have one more question...I've overclocked to 1.5...I found 1.6 to be the same as 1.5. But it seems that after an hour or so, it resets to 1.3. in ROMToolbox. Why is this?

Don't use rom toolbox. Use the Trinity app. It sticks just fine for me. Besides you support the dev to make better kernels.
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simms22 said:
try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"

MRsf27 said:
i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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Lol its a joke... its the updater-script you can make it say anything... :laugh:

MRsf27 said:
i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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ha!
youre not the first

Overclocking past 1.4 Ghz doesn't result in any major usability improvements. I've gone up to 1.7 Ghz and the only thing it does is make my tablet really warm and unstable. All you really need for improving system performance is I/O tweaks to speed up app and page loading, and a little bit of GPU overclocking to help with the transitional effects.

and, to be honest, depending which trinity kernel im using, im using either 1100 or 1150mhz mostly. on a111 im using 1100mhz and on a96 i used 1150mhz. with those speeds everything is still fast but a bit better on battery

Overclocking
If you want a little more information about the the overclocking if you havent already you might want to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788759 its the official thread of the trinity kernel for grouper.

[Q] Kernels for Lollipop?

Are there currently any kernels that would work nicely with 5.0? I want to overclock a bit but don't think theres any kernels yet, just asking here as assurance I'm right or to be proved wrong.

S1L3nTShaDoWz said:
Are there currently any kernels that would work nicely with 5.0? I want to overclock a bit but don't think theres any kernels yet, just asking here as assurance I'm right or to be proved wrong.
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Youre able to use any kernels such as funky, faux, etc. Basically any that dont come with their own ramdisk. Personally i use snuzzos funky kernel that if you care about benchmarks puts the grouper right on top with this years' flagship devices on antutu without any overclocking. Though if thats a need faux is stable enough with lolipop to overclock nicely
Edit: if you were to go with funky you should try out the CPU governor 'lulzactive' as that's by far better than any other I've tried, on my hardware at least.

abrahammmmmmm_ said:
Youre able to use any kernels such as funky, faux, etc. Basically any that dont come with their own ramdisk. Personally i use snuzzos funky kernel that if you care about benchmarks puts the grouper right on top with this years' flagship devices on antutu without any overclocking. Though if thats a need faux is stable enough with lolipop to overclock nicely
Edit: if you were to go with funky you should try out the CPU governor 'lulzactive' as that's by far better than any other I've tried, on my hardware at least.
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Will do, I'm looking for something to make my N7 go from a car engine to a hyperdrive! & yes I love getting high benchmarks, sorta tricks me into believing my device is faster than it is lol. Might make me be totally oblivious to any lag haha xD. Anyways I'll give funky a shot with the lulzactive gov as I've already tried Faux before.

Why isn't anyone overclocking?

Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.

Dn_nS said:
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
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Well the snapdrag version can be underclocked but there is no OC as the kernel is not modifiable Due to locked BootLoader

TheMadScientist said:
Well the snapdrag version can be underclocked but there is no OC as the kernel is not modifiable Due to locked BootLoader
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Sorry I didn't specify things. I do mean the exynos version. There are some kernels that lift the 2,3 max freq to 2,65 GHz, but know that some S7 kernels climb to 2,9 GHz. So (in my book) that means the S8 should be able to overclock to 3 GHz (cause of the base A73 base of the 2nd gen mongoose cores and 10nm footprint).
So I'm just curious if it's not possible or there is some other reason why none are doing this.
And with underclocking I meant adding freqs that are below the standard lowest freq, my bad. (Don't how to call it otherwise)

Battery life.....

Battery life mainly.
Through overclocking, sure you can make s8 run as fast as oneplus considering s8's heavy skin, but most of us would rather see 6-8 hours of SOT with 24 hours of usage than our app opening 1-2 seconds faster.
Saying that, there are plenty of debloated roms for s8 that can run faster/smoother than the stock without sacrificing the battery life.
So, as for your question, maybe the devs don't want to put too much effort on overclocking an already pretty fast processor or underclocking an already pretty efficient processor. I am not a dev so can't really talk about complicated codings and stuff.

Why would you overclock a Ferrari?

IDan1109 said:
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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This! Says it all.
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The S8 is fast enough on its own. I never even OC'd my S6. I find Exynos processors to be really fast as-is.

It's true, I dont't see any practical use for overclocking, yet. It would be purely for the fun of it. I'm sure we will see it more in the future, when some more hardware-heavy Games will be released.
Undervolting on the other surprises me aswell, to not see it frequently. Because, although it's totally fine right now, batterylife and efficiency can always be better.
I'm curious if we will see more Devs include this in their ROMs and Kernels

I agree with all the above. I called either due to snapdragon but I wouldn't even i if I could. I actually limit the clock speed on my big CPUs because the higher clock rates eat more power.
Also, why? Just why? Looking at cpu usage on my s8, the only time I've seen it actually pegged was running benchmarks. Overclocking is absolutely useless if the variable cpu clock never goes to 100% for more than milliseconds. Why do something so potentially dangerous for nothing?

:good::good::good:Well put guys:good::good::good:

I cant overclock but i still have set cpu and use it to underclock (when the screen is off) but most kf the time it is underclocked if it is not playing a game or ram extensive app

IDan1109 said:
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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Why you overclock GTX 2080? Why you overclock i9 or amd threadripper 2950x cpu? Why you overclock DDR4 3000MHZ Ram? Why you use 3DMark? Or cinebench or, or or........
Thats all the same.

To everyone asking "Why??", I find it rather odd that you don't know already...
The reason why some of us like (want) to overclock, or undervolt, is the exact same reason we're all on this site: We like to TWEAK STUFF!
Doesn't matter if it's rooting, flashing a custom ROM, creating a unique theme, coding a new app. All of those boil down to the same human instinct to explore, to make things better, or make new things. Whether or not it's needed is completely irrelevant
Using your logic, there's no reason to have a custom kernel in the first place, nevermind rooting your phone, or having custom ROM. The phone worked fine the way it was, after all, right?
In closing, the motto "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is what the lay people adhere to. We who are more inclined in certain aspects of life (such as the XDA community) live by another: "If it ain't broke, tweak it!", or if you rather "If it ain't broke, tweak it till it does, then fix it!"
Please add over/underclocking and over/under volting for CPU and GPU cores to every kernel, for every device that allows it! We already except blame if anything bad should come to our device the moment we decide to root and/or flash something, so why not give us every single capability available for the devices and leave it up to us to do what we so choose? :good:
[Naturally, this is based on the assumption that a device lacks a bootloader, and the kernel maker possesses the knowledge; thus, this is referring to those situations where both apply.]

IDan1109 said:
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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To be faster than other team who is performance tuning as well. You don't have to do it because not everyone is doing. It should be geared towards to people who really care. Like others in this thread mention battery life but people like me wants it faster.
Also I game with the phone connected to charger all the time. I don't really game on the go though if I did I would bring portable battery if someone driving me. That just me.

People like me use phones for emulation. GameCube games are almost at the right speed but do run just a bit to slow in some location rendering them unpleasant to play. A bit more of cpu power would certainly make " Wind waker " run at constant 30 FPS. I hope this topic to be revived

Well just a quick answer , it's because of how samsung's voltage table is set , the voltage table is locked and to be modifed it needs to be hacked in some sort , that's why you cant oc that much since you need to change the voltage table and increase it so you can have stable oc
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There is alot of kernels that has oc already gpu and cpu wise , they add like 200mhz oc or something for cpu and 100 for the gpu yeah that would give you that little bit of extra juice but it aint stable in some sort you can have kernel crashes or system hogging that's due to the voltage table , i can make you a kernel that has 600mhz oc but ass soon as you select it , the phone would crash since it doesnt have enough power going to it

As Xperia modder said, darn LOCKED voltage table. If only it was unlocked....
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Well just a quick answer , it's because of how samsung's voltage table is set , the voltage table is locked and to be modifed it needs to be hacked in some sort , that's why you cant oc that much since you need to change the voltage table and increase it so you can have stable oc
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There is alot of kernels that has oc already gpu and cpu wise , they add like 200mhz oc or something for cpu and 100 for the gpu yeah that would give you that little bit of extra juice but it aint stable in some sort you can have kernel crashes or system hogging that's due to the voltage table , i can make you a kernel that has 600mhz oc but ass soon as you select it , the phone would crash since it doesnt have enough power going to it
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Can I ask you a question? Just to have a doubt removed from my head. Do you know if Exynos 8890 devices have locked voltage table as well?

TechNoobForSale said:
As Xperia modder said, darn LOCKED voltage table. If only it was unlocked....
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Can I ask you a question? Just to have a doubt removed from my head. Do you know if Exynos 8890 devices have locked voltage table as well?
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Well tbh i dont know but this has always been. A thing with exynos chips , yeah some developers go out of their way and write some stuff from scratch to make it work you know

Dn_nS said:
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
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Yeah has been realesed a2n kernel oc up to 2,8 ghz and oc up to 839mhz all of them is all core