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OverClocking Aria

Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?

I don't think that It could be clocked at 1Ghz, more like 700Mhz. That just seems more likely.
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larry996 said:
Would love to see some ROM's with SetCPU or Overclocking options. I heard the Droid could be overclocked. Wonder if Aria has a "Stable happy medium" that is around 800-1000mhz?
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I would definitely enjoy 1Ghz on my little buddy. Sort of a mini Nexus

Has anyone even tried to overclock?

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Has anyone even tried to overclock?
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Never saw a stock kernel you could overclock. You could download setcpu and play with it. Maybe once we get some custom kernels it will work.
Not sure where the problem is with speed though - this thing is pretty zippy as it is.

Yea, it's pretty fast to me. I think the 600Mhz processor must be a different design than the old 528Mhz processor, because it seems to be much faster. I'm pretty satisfied as it is. Is there a certain app that is running too slow on your phone?

Yeah I agree that the processor Is great as is. I havent noticed any lag at all. even 3d games are running without lag for the most part. If it were overclocked the only difference I think that could be needed is performance with the gpu. Set cpu cant overclock the stock kernel but if we do get a custom kernel im sure we'd be able to overclock it.
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You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.

gtg465x said:
You can never have too much performance. I would love to be able to overclock.
Gpu wise we're fine as we have the same one as the Incredible and Evo, but our cpu is a bit weak. The Incredible and Evo, while they may not be any faster through the menus, are able to do things like loading web pages faster than us because of their faster cpu.
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What makes you say the CPU is weak? I'm don't buy for a second that the CPU is a gating web page refresh speeds.
The CPU is not the same architecture as the old 528 mhz HTCs. The Aria does not need a 1 ghz Snapdragon to perform very well given the graphics requirement of the screen which has far less resolution to manage and requires far less from the both CPU and GPU, and given that this is a small smartphone, and not a game deck. You can't underestimate the difference in power required to drive a 480x800 compared to a 320x480 display. It's enormous for devices like these.
I am sure in time this device will be overclocked by some just because it can be, but the vast majority of us aren't worried about playing Warcraft on the Aria. People who want to do that aren't looking at the Aria is the first place, with it's 3.2" screen, which fits nicely wherever a portable phone might, but isn't going to make anyone go "oh wow, is that a flatscreen tv in your pocket or are you happy to see me?"
If you want to overclock yours, you are perfectly free to do so - once we get another kernel choice that supports it.

I think when you consider running Flash on your phone, there is NO such thing as too much performance.

When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.

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When you consider full screen flash at 320x480 vs 480x800, the Aria can hold it's own against the larger Snapdragons. If the Aria has trouble with full screen flash, it's not because of the Aria, and it's not because the processor is weak.
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I concede that you have a point.

we might need a kernal that support over 600mhz .

How did they overclock the driod? Is that kernel or setcpu?
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Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
Edit: unstable, nevermind

light24bulbs said:
Using the kernel eljefe27 links and overclockwidget I was able to overclock to 806mhz and get a higher quadrant score. I'm running ATTN1's fr006 rom(froyo+sense.) All apps stable as far as I can tell and network functional. Under advanced settings the app can define its own possible overclock values for the CPU. I'm wondering if its missing higher clocks, as there is the option to set them manually. Im just scared to, lol.
Because I can't post outside links, the kernel can be found hya:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=821933&highlight=overclock
Edit: unstable, nevermind
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Untrue. It may be unstable for you but not everyone. I'm currently running at 825mhz, was running at 844mhz.
Your mileage may vary.

I heard overclocking 33% over stock is a good benchmark for performance.

Over Clock Kernel - wifi error

I am running CM6 A013 with oc-legend-cm-2.6.29.6 kernel. Everything seems to be working just fine except for the wifi. Has anyone gotten the wifi to work with the oc kernels?
I read in another thread that we could take the wlan.ko file from an old ROM. Does anyone have a copy of this file or would anyone be willing to pull the file so that I can test it? I really appreciate it.

same situation here. neither kernels work with cm6's wifi and hotspot. can someone fix this please! i really want my wifi back! i didnt do a backup before hand!

Im looking at this and it looks easier than just replacing the entire kernel like you guys did, read here from that guy's post above:
"How to do it for kernel_legend_13be9c9c:
At first, you should read zanfur's post and his patch.
I just modified two tables in acpuclock-arm11.c excluding his having written.
1. modify cpufreq.c to let SetCPU to access freq tables
2. modify acpuclock-arm11.c to let HTC Legend be able to overclocking
3. modify msm7227_defconfig to disable PERFLOCK [optional]
You might not need modify defconfig when you use SetCPU which can purchase in Android Market.
SetCPU can disable PERFLOCK by setting. ([menu] -> [Perflock Disabler])"
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So, with that said, I would take that file or file(s) and replace them with the ones in our current kernel made for our phone... might work and your wifi won't be broken.

You guys are running a kernel made for a different device.

could some one say in plain english the exact steps to get the old kernel back? the one from CM6

lilhaiti said:
I am running CM6 A013 with oc-legend-cm-2.6.29.6 kernel. Everything seems to be working just fine except for the wifi. Has anyone gotten the wifi to work with the oc kernels?
I read in another thread that we could take the wlan.ko file from an old ROM. Does anyone have a copy of this file or would anyone be willing to pull the file so that I can test it? I really appreciate it.
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That kernel is not built for our wifi chip. The kernel needs to be built for the BCM chipset and not the TI. Further, the wifi module needs to be in sync with the kernel build. Android 101.
I am not sure what we are going to gain from overclocking. There just doesn't seem to be any end goal, other than bragging rights on a benchmark where the Aria can only hope to be among the best of the mediocre CPUs. If it's for flash - forget it. We don't have the instruction set required in the CPU. The downside is the potential to add instability and confuse test results for mods that can actually increase functionality.

I like overclocking and running a couple benchmarks once in a while. For day to day use I'm more interested in downclocking but only if it can increase battery life.
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the extra speed of the OC makes a big different on the games, that's the reason I like it... Games run smoother with the OC kernel.... do the test.. try to run Abduction with the stock Kernel for a while and then with the OC.. you'll see the difference... also Live Wallpapers with the stock kernel is choppy... it is smooth with the OC.

Hell my nexus one has been over clocked since the day I got it (rooted that same day ) not that a 1ghz phone really needs it. Well the Nexus One maybe for gaming but my Captivate and Vibrant on the other hand doesn't need it period. You won't get better performance gaming with any other android handset out there to date. Still my Captivate is over clocked to 1.2ghz lol. Like I say there's something fun about pushing the limits.
It really just another thing to tweak and play around with on your device. It's always fun to push the limits.

There are several reason why I would like to overclock. 1. The 3D photo gallery loads photos really slow with the stock kernel, but with an overclocked kernel the pics loaded very quickly. 2. It's nice to run a 3D game or two without chopping. Just to name a couple. It would be nice to have an Aria kernel that works with all of the phones hardware. And showing off benchmark number is nice as well.

LagFix or Overclock?

Which do you guys prefer?
When choosing Voodoo kernels or OC kernels

lagfix hands down

i prefer both at the same time.. but if i can only go with one i'd go with lagfix myself

it really doesnt matter...you COULD have both if you know what you're doin...me personally im running a lagfix....

My cpu can't handle the OC so I don't even bother. Just use a lagfix, you really don't need to overclock. It's not like we use our phones for scientific computing.

I've tryed all three ways.
I've found that some of the newer roms run just fine without either, but at the moment I'm only running overclock.(1.12 ghz)
just before this I was running 1.3 GHZ overclock and JFS advanced lagfix and I really dont see a ton of difference beyond benchmark scores and battery drainage lol.
although addmittedly it is fun to show off your benchmark scores :-D
in real life performance you probably wont notice much difference.
but try all three ways and see which you like better I'm sure some people really do have a need for overclock and lagfix, heck, if I could find a way to compile the android os from my phone I'd probably want the extra power :-D
but just find whats right for you

I am by no means an expert on this hardware, but as with any device you are only ever as fast as the system that bottle necks first. From what I have been able to gather thus far, on the Vibrant, that is I/O hands down. The rest of the hardware keeps up with most tasks quite well, and the lag fix helps to alleviate the bottlenecks in I/O by speeding up the read/write operations fairly well.
That would be where I put my money. Overclock sounds cool, but on these phones seems unnecessary.
Just my 2/100 of a $

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Which do you guys prefer?
When choosing Voodoo kernels or OC kernels
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Choosing one or the other is stupid, use both! Voodoo was a good idea months ago but it's outdated now, stop using it. Use a kernel like the one in my sig, it supports Ext4 lagfix (just like voodoo) AND overclocking, it's stable, and you won't softbrick if you flash over it.

Best Way to Improve Performance

So I am wondering what others opinions are of the roms and kernels available for the SF. Doesn't seem to be much of an improvement on Quadrant scores utilizing another rom or even stupidfast kernels.
Are we just kind of screwed a bit until 2.2? Is there a kernel that is overclocked?
TIA.

Quadrant scores are mostly meaningless, and 2.2 is unlikely to be revolutionary. The phone performs well on 2.1 - keep reading the forum and you'll get there.

In my opinion the biggest performance increases ive seen werent in any benchmarks but in dj05. it runs amazing. If u havent tried it i dont know whether you should or not. With the impending froyo release no one knows if they are actually going to release DJ05 or not. I think they should release it and then put froyo on top of that foundation if at all possible
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What do you feel about DJ that helped it out?
I finally stayed with just a Voodoo lag kernel. There certain operations on the phone I had gotten used to that were slow. The kernel with lag fix did show me noticeable improvement, more than just a higher I/O score in Quadrant.
I think the phone is fairly solid on 2.1 but needs a little help. Hopefully the Froyo upgrade really is around the corner but Im not holding my breath

jfigura said:
What do you feel about DJ that helped it out?
I finally stayed with just a Voodoo lag kernel. There certain operations on the phone I had gotten used to that were slow. The kernel with lag fix did show me noticeable improvement, more than just a higher I/O score in Quadrant.
I think the phone is fairly solid on 2.1 but needs a little help. Hopefully the Froyo upgrade really is around the corner but Im not holding my breath
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I'm running DJ05 deox, and the stock DJ05 kernel. I used Titanium Backup to remove all the bloatware, and I use ADW instead of TouchWiz crap. (I took TW off with Titanium Backup too). SetCPU to set max to 1ghz, and minimum to 400mhz. (NO PROFILES!!!) It runs just fine for me. Rather damn speedy actually!! I dont do the whole benchmark test business, doesn't really mean much IMO.

Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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ksizzle9 said:
Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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Where did you get the dj05 update?
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Ive only tried voodoo/lagfix
It made a significant difference on my phone. I reverted and restored all the factory stuff in anticipation of JD05 because I want to get it OTA when it drops.
I tried to get the leaked one in IRC but people just kept calling me n00b so I gave up.
I am hopeful that it will solve all my woes and usher in a new era of speed only previously dreamt about

Powell730 said:
Where did you get the dj05 update?
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its been discussed dozens of times where and how to get dj05

joe3681 said:
I'm running DJ05 deox, and the stock DJ05 kernel. I used Titanium Backup to remove all the bloatware, and I use ADW instead of TouchWiz crap. (I took TW off with Titanium Backup too). SetCPU to set max to 1ghz, and minimum to 400mhz. (NO PROFILES!!!) It runs just fine for me. Rather damn speedy actually!! I dont do the whole benchmark test business, doesn't really mean much IMO.
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Yes benchmarks dont mean too much. But they are a good indication of overall performance in their specific areas that they test. As they fascinate test well in every area except i/o. But we already kne that. Im not sure what about DJ05 Made it feel so solid to me just overall improvement and actual working GPS
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@Joe: same setup here (DJ05 deo, Stock Kernel and Rom, Frozen bloat in Titanium) without SetCPU. It's FAST. My GF and both my sons have EVOs running 2.2 and my Fascinate is just as fast (or faster)
@ksizzle: I agree, it's hard to quantify exactly what is so good about it. I think it's not what's there, but what's NOT there (lag) I think there are going to be plenty of happy n00bs when the OTA hits. This phone will be a screamer right out of the box!

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Quadrant scores are mostly meaningless, and 2.2 is unlikely to be revolutionary.
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Actually, the real performance difference between 2.2. and 2.1 is very revolutionary, though I certainly agree with you about the irrelevance of Quadrant scores. The Java virtual machine, for example, executes code 450% -- that's not a typo -- faster, which directly impacts most apps.
And, 2.2's browser is also significantly faster than 2.1's -- and iOS4's, for that matter.
I like my Fascinate, and yes, I would consider it fast (especially running DJ05 with Geeknik's kernels) but like many others, I too see slowdowns sometimes that just shouldn't happen with the phone's hardware. Froyo isn't a magic pill, per se, but it should significantly reduce or eliminate those slowdowns (as it did on my old Droid 1, despite it's far-slower processor).
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/and...r-vs-android-15-cupcake-speed-taste-49305763/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...-it-compared-to-2-1-oh-only-about-450-faster/
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2010/07/android-22-demolishes-ios4-in-javascript-benchmarks.ars

Actually, the real performance difference between 2.2. and 2.1 is very revolutionary, though I certainly agree with you about the irrelevance of Quadrant scores. The Java virtual machine, for example, executes code 450% in benchmarks -- that's not a typo -- faster, which do not directly impact most apps.
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Fixed that for ya. Don't let marketing hype get the best of ya.

Everything I've read states that the performance improvements between 2.1 and 2.2 have little effect on Hummingbird processors (which is what is in all Galaxy S phones), and the biggest performance gains are seen on Snapdragon processors. As far as performance goes, I'll believe it when I see it.

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Everything I've read states that the performance improvements between 2.1 and 2.2 have little effect on Hummingbird processors (which is what is in all Galaxy S phones), and the biggest performance gains are seen on Snapdragon processors. As far as performance goes, I'll believe it when I see it.
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This is because JIT was designed specifically around a Snapdragon processor.

Trinity Kernel...1400mhz max?

I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?

Because he dropped the Max. You probably flashed A111 correct? That's a TSVZ meaning it is slightly over clocked and undervolted kernel meant for battery not for performance.
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U2Bono269 said:
I recently flashed the newest Trinity Kernel on my Nexus 7. I still have the stock ROM. I tried to tweak the CPU settings with ROM Toolbox and the most I can overclock is 1400mhz. Why can't I overclock to 1600? Is it because of the stock ROM? I'm looking into Glazed Jelly Bean as a custom ROM but I'm not sure I want or need to use a custom ROM at this point.
Any suggestions?
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ

Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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myke66 said:
Mildly on topic question ... do you notice any imporvments with overclocking? My first experience with overclocking as on my Hero, and then Galaxy S1, but this N7 just feels so fast i cant see overclocking making it any smoother? lol
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yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.

simms22 said:
yes. its noticeable, but not like on the older devices.
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Nice, ill have to look into rooting sometime soon.

Ok, I got the a96 and I've flashed it...
Is there a detailed changelog for each version? The a111 said it was a 1600mhz kernel so I don't understand why it was dropped down to 1400. That's where my confusion was.
I did notice some increase in speed at 1400. I was having some stuttering issues with Dead Trigger and Minecraft PE, and they were less with the 1400. I've got it running at 1600 now but I don't know what it will do to the battery or how well it will perform. I'll find out later. I've run through the battery pretty quickly today, but I was tinkering with it A LOT so it's not accurate.
What kind of tweaks could I do using Rom Toolbox that would help me maximize my battery while overclocking to 1.6?

Dont over clock.. i dont even see a need to. I use the ondemand gov which stutters a little but using interactive clears that up. Also using the CFQ IO as it is the stock IO used. Its stock so its gotta be good . Also you should turn F-Sync off that helps quite a bit. Also you could toggle auto hotplug and make it only run two cores while gaming and then turn it back on when finished so that way it will hotplug cores as it sees necessary. You could also up the voltages a little bit, some CPU's dont like the lower voltage and that will cause stuttering and glitching just up them by 25mV and see if it clears if not try another 25mV.

I will try those things, but I really want to play with overclocking and learn what happens. This is my first Android device so I'm experimenting and playing around.
But I have one more question...I've overclocked to 1.5...I found 1.6 to be the same as 1.5. But it seems that after an hour or so, it resets to 1.3. in ROMToolbox. Why is this?

Don't use rom toolbox. Use the Trinity app. It sticks just fine for me. Besides you support the dev to make better kernels.
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try a96, its one of my faves. it has a max of 1700mhz http://goo.gl/mLUCZ
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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"

MRsf27 said:
i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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Lol its a joke... its the updater-script you can make it say anything... :laugh:

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i **** my pants a little when it says "system succesfully corrupted, please freak out now"
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ha!
youre not the first

Overclocking past 1.4 Ghz doesn't result in any major usability improvements. I've gone up to 1.7 Ghz and the only thing it does is make my tablet really warm and unstable. All you really need for improving system performance is I/O tweaks to speed up app and page loading, and a little bit of GPU overclocking to help with the transitional effects.

and, to be honest, depending which trinity kernel im using, im using either 1100 or 1150mhz mostly. on a111 im using 1100mhz and on a96 i used 1150mhz. with those speeds everything is still fast but a bit better on battery

Overclocking
If you want a little more information about the the overclocking if you havent already you might want to check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1788759 its the official thread of the trinity kernel for grouper.