[Q] Timestamp Issue With Text Messages - Surround General

Hello,
I'm new here, so forgive me if this has been answered before. I did a search and couldn't find anything that helped with my issue, but maybe I just missed something.
I have a new HTC Surround, originally locked to Telus, but now unlocked and on the Rogers network.
Everything is working great except that the timestamp for incoming text messages is incorrect, and off by about 5 hours. The minutes in the timestamp is accurate, but the hours is off by 5 hours.
For instance, a message sent by me has a timestamp of 4:22p. The reply to that message comes in with a timestamp of 11:25a.
I've seen that this has been an issue for other HTC phones in the past, as well as possibly a problem with Rogers' network but I can't seem to find a fix. I was previously using a Sony x10 on Rogers (hated the phone) and never had this problem.
I sent a message to HTC customer support, but was hoping somebody here would be able to help me faster.
Any help that can be provided would be greatly appreciated.

I had this issue with Bell Vibrant Galaxy S on the Fido as well, and had to use an app called SMS Timefix.
btw Wepeel, who did you use to get the phone unlocked? I'm still trying to find someone to do it for me. I'm in the Toronto GTA area.

Thanks for the input. I don't think there's an app yet for wp7 (at least nothing in the market). I got a response from HTC and they said it was a network problem. However, I've never had this problem on Rogers before. I've only had the Surround for 3 days, and the x10 I had before (for 2 months) never had this problem, and neither did my iphone.
I'm going to contact Rogers tomorrow and see what they have to say about it.
As far as unlocking, I won the phone from Breakfast Television and was given the unlock code directly from Telus. However, depending on where in Toronto you live, you should check out the Pacific Mall (Steeles/Kennedy in Markham) or craigslist.
The Pacific Mall is a great place to go to get anything unlocked, and its usually pretty cheap. There's also an ad on CL right now advertising unlocking for the Surround for $29 (which I find pretty expensive).
Hope that helps.

Same issue, same situation.
I have an unlocked TELUS surround on Rogers, and the timestamps on the TXT messages are -5 hours from the real time.. Obviously the phone is expecting the carrier to timestamp the messages in UTC and the phone is correcting.. there should be an OS tweak for this somewhere.
Oh, and MyNameIsWepeel;
If you think this is fun, wait until you search for something in the maps.. I searched for TELUS in maps hoping to find the local telus dealer and it came up with Telus, Russia. (It's a city apparently). It seems if your phone is configured for Canada (eveything under Region & Locale) the maps search doesn't work correctly. You need to set it up for US to get it to work.

Aoshi_ said:
Oh, and MyNameIsWepeel;
If you think this is fun, wait until you search for something in the maps.. I searched for TELUS in maps hoping to find the local telus dealer and it came up with Telus, Russia. (It's a city apparently). It seems if your phone is configured for Canada (eveything under Region & Locale) the maps search doesn't work correctly. You need to set it up for US to get it to work.
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The problem with that though, is the market will no longer download apps. Or at least it didn't for me. I changed my locale, which did help with searches in maps, but then I couldn't download any apps. I just kept getting error messages. Changing my locale back to Canada fixed it immediately.

I just changed my locale last night to all US, and I was still able to download apps. Albeit I got an error message occasionally, but then I just restarted the download and it all worked. I figured it was server related.

fast1fred said:
I just changed my locale last night to all US, and I was still able to download apps. Albeit I got an error message occasionally, but then I just restarted the download and it all worked. I figured it was server related.
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I'll have to check it out again, maybe it was just server problems. I'll admit I wasn't very patient with it.
On an unrelated topic, how are you guys finding the reception on the phone? I've noticed I'm getting slightly poorer reception in some areas that my x10 got great reception.

Well I'm not the best person to ask about reception... I'm coming from an iphone.
My major beef with this phone is the battery life; it's simply unacceptable. I always end up coming home with 20% or less... Either an aftermarket upgrade will need to show up to save the day or I'll be forced to switch phones.

Ive had similar battery problems, but it charges so fast it hasnt been an issue. I throw it on the car charger for 20 minutes and im good for the rest of the day. But back on topic.. i have a similar issue with text messages, except my time stamps are about 30-45 seconds slower which sometimes causes my device to send texts before one is received. its not a huge deal though, but still kind of odd.

Prior to this phone, I had an iPhone 3G, 3GS, Nexus One, and Samsung Galaxy S - all with the same carrier.
This phone has the best reception so far. On my home from work today I tested it out. There's always an area my bars go to zero and my calls drop. With this phone it was the first time I never dropped the call completely. In fact, the signal was completely strong. I'm happily surprised by this.

Well, I finally found out what was causing my reception problems. This phone, or mine anyway, has a very serious deathgrip issue. Any time I would hold the phone at the bottom (where the antenna is) or with both hands, I would lose at least 2-3 bars. A lot of the time I would completely lose signal. As soon as I moved my hand up to the top, right back to full bars.
And since you need to hold the phone at the bottom to text and talk, it pretty much made the phone useless to me.
So I sold my Surround (for $500) and I'm going to get something else.

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Help: Need help figuring if this is a phone issue or carrier issue...

Ok, I've had an 8525 unlocked for about 3 months now... Unlocked and used on t-mobile's network...
Until recently, I've had 0 issues with my phone from what I can remember(now running PDAs v20 windows 6.1 rom)
My problem is, during the day, in my room I recieve any and every phone call that comes in, calls never drop or hang up, BUT the call seems to cut out for about 5-15 seconds and then cut back in.. even though it says I have 4 bars.. in my kitchen with 4 bars, I get all my phone calls, but can't hear people (nor can they hear me at all)... I get emails, and browse the web fine.. but can't use google maps app (can't find my location until I leave lol)
I don't know what's up... at night, when I'm in my room, my phone works fine with no cutting out and in during calls, but during the day, that's when it wants to act all crazy... other t-mobile phones work perfectly fine in my room... my old sidekick also worked fine..
when I'm anywhere else in my city, my phone works fine (even with 2 bars)
I know nothing about how cell phones work when communicating with cell towers so any help someone can give me will be very helpful as I do not want to catch an aneurism calling T-Mobile themselves for help (though I doubt they'll help me since I'm using an unlocked ATT phone on their service lol)
Also... sometimes txt messages come and give me a time like it's in another time-zone... usually this happens when I'm out of state roaming on a different network (Immix in central PA for the most part) but now it seems to be popping up even while I'm home in NY...
any ideas?
seems like some kind of interference near your home...could be a carrier tower or even your TV? You could check with tmob if others in the hood are having day issues...
not sure what radio version u have, but u could try flashing a different one...
I've tried numerous radio's but having the same issues... it's some kind of interference in my house I guess.. I just can't figure out what it is... I called up t-mobile and was embarassed when he said "oh u have an ATT phone" lol he told me to switch sim cards with someone else on t-mobile in my home to see what happened... but.. no progress... I unplugged my wifi router to see if that would help but it didn't
I just find it completely odd that my service craps out on me in my room ONLY during the day... and it never did this when I first got the phone.. I'm completely lost... good news is, it only happens in my house...
Could be someone close by has just invested in a piece of equipment that is causing interference.. Might not be just in your place...
yeah, another thing that MIGHT be causing the interference is that they have been doing a lot of road work in my area... that could also be why it happens during the day but not at night... my kitchen is a different story, but different radio's have gave me different reception... with some radio's... it fades out completely and with others it'll fade out for maybe a second or 2
or it could be my neighbor who recently had a stroke, I guess there might be some machines in there.. who knows
I tried the latest radio and it yielded the best results in my kitchen so far but man oh man does it burn battery when I'm on the phone
I'm having the same problem...well as far as the text msgs go so i called tmobile last night and they took me off the network and placed me back on and since then I havent had any problems
Update: I put my GF's att sim card in my phone and went to all my "dead spots"... even when the signal bars were down to almost 0, the quality of the call was still clear and it wouldn't fade in and out during a call... Does anyone know if there's anything T-Mobile can do? Because I tried my moms sim card in my phone (t-mobile) and gave me the same crappy results (calls fading in and out at full 4 bar signal)

HTC Magic (and HTC Dream) on Rogers - Text / SMS Timestamp issue?

Hi All,
Anyone on Rogers having issues with text message timestamps being off by a few hours?
I'm in Regina and any received SMS messages are two hours ahead of my local time. Changing from automatic network time to manual time has no effect.
It looks like text messages are being sent out with Toronto local time, no matter what the receiver's location is.
It appears that this is happening to a number of users, but Rogers support is useless - suggesting hard resets and returning the 'defective' device, which of course have no effect.
See: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2859
So anyone else that is having this problem, sound off - call tech support, reply to this and the above link, and hopefully Rogers will get this fixed sooner rather than later.
Hey Skawty, I'm in Regina too!! How you liking the phone? I just picked mine up on Wednesday and loving it. Anyways back to your point, I don't think it is possible to have a correct time on SMS, I haven't had any correct timestamps on any of my phones with Rogers, so we may be SOL on this part.
in edmonton here with the same issue. picked mine up today.
I don't know if the timestamps were off on my old krzr, they could have been and i would not have noticed. However with the threading by timestamp on this phone it really makes it annoying. There had better be a fix for this soon.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1305
http://androidcommunity.com/forums/f10/sms-timestamp-incorrect-5067/
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=2859
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1305
Looks like a lot of people complaining. I'd think they'll fix it soon.
this helps for now... kind of
http://androidforums.com/updates-cu...sms-issue-received-time-stamp-locked-est.html
WORKAROUND (sort-of) i’ve been using chompsms instead of the the messaging program, and it seems to thread everything correctly. chomp for whatever reason puts your time stamp on the same time zone as the received, so if you are replying to a received text with EST time stamp, chomp makes yours EST as well.
works for sending too… the initial msg you send will show your proper time, the reply will in est, then when you reply it will be in eastern, threading properly. rogers still needs to fix this though!
Hey, i imported the Tmobile G1 a couple months ago... i also noticed that the time was off on sms's. After i rooted, flashed a new rom and radio is was fixed. But now i am on the Hero rom and once again the time is off. So it seems that the it is not an issue with the radio, but maybe the build. I remeber i saw the right times wen i was on JF builds. I will try the Rogers rom again and also one of JFs roms again and let you know if the timestamp is fixed.
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Hey, i imported the Tmobile G1 a couple months ago... i also noticed that the time was off on sms's. After i rooted, flashed a new rom and radio is was fixed. But now i am on the Hero rom and once again the time is off. So it seems that the it is not an issue with the radio, but maybe the build. I remeber i saw the right times wen i was on JF builds. I will try the Rogers rom again and also one of JFs roms again and let you know if the timestamp is fixed.
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Confirmed. I am using a t-mobile G1 with a Rogers Rom and live in EST. All my received texts are stamped with toronto time
I am running the rammjet rom built off the rogers and have the very same issue.
Though it seems sometimes if i have it open and am texting back and forth to the same person it will work properly.
Doesn’t matter what rom or software you are using on phone. This is a Rogers issue at the network level. They are the ones that stamp message.
They are aware of issue, but it seems very low on priorities to them. Guess they don’t understand sms is not just for teens to giggle these days. Its important for business and as far as I am concerned, a big deal
I have contacted them several times and get one of the two:
“No idea what you are talking about” << Love these replies from any service call
Or
“We are aware of the issue and are working on it” << No time frame given, so really as pointless as above
In any case. Don’t be running around looking for an in-phone fix because you haven’t done anything to mess with the time stamp. Doesn’t matter what you use for sms or what os you have on phone
Chomp helps by keeping things in order, but doesn’t fix timestamp. Rogers has to do this. Will they and when????? Who knows?
G1 Dream
I had the same problem with a Tmobile G1 Dream im not sure if they are exactly the same software but I fix the problem changing some of the APN settings give it a try
Good Luck
Good day, I recently purchased the HTC Touch Pro 2...great phone by the way. I also am experiencing sms message time stamp errors and I have tried everything...do you have any suggestions?
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I had the same problem with a Tmobile G1 Dream im not sure if they are exactly the same software but I fix the problem changing some of the APN settings give it a try
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What settings did you change? I'd like to try this.
I know that it isnt a fix, but what i did was adjust the timezone to gmt -2(4 hour offset in regina) then manually entered a time, so now my messages are in the correct order. the only problem with this was that now all the events in my calendar where 4 hour out. so i went in and changed the timezone in my calendar to match the timezone on my phone, and moved all my events up 4 hours.
I know its not a fix, but until rogers does something about this it will work
There's an app on the market called SmsFixTimes that I wrote to help with this problem, until Rogers or HTC fixes the firmware. This is just a regular app, no hacks or anything else required. You should be aware, though, that it has only been tested by me so far, so it is at least possible that it could change the timestamps to something completely unexpected... you've been warned.
The app listens for incoming SMS messages and adjusts the timestamp to your phone's configured time zone automatically. The notification in the top bar is still wrong, but when you click on the message it will have the right time. If you run the app from the main app list, it will also go back and fix all of your saved messages (but only do that once! And maybe wait for an incoming message first, to see what happens!).
Since this is just a regular app, if you want it to stop you simply have to uninstall it from your phone. Comments and suggestions are welcome.
Hey natmanz, I've been checking on the Market since your post, and still no sign of SmsFixTimes. Is it just me, or has it not shown up yet?
[Edit: It finally showed up.]
Fix coming mid-august
I just spoke with a Rogers rep who told me that HTC are currently working on a patch that should be ready mid-August. Until then there's nothing that can be done aside from changing the time on your phone or using chompSMS as an alternative
Its fine for a while, up until you go past a few hundred messages in the thread. IE its me and my friend firing off during summer classes, and while its my solid wall of sent sms, and then his wall of sms, after a certain point it becomes 5 of mine, one of his, then none of mine for the next 50 in the thread. Annoying.
...Rogers. Bane of my existance. Bold works fine, iPhone works fine, maybe this is a sign that Rogers isn't giving enough of a ****? Because if it was a berry or iphone theyd be all over it. thank god bell/telus are going gsm, I can take my nice phones and business elsewhere, and fyi cant speak for telus but bells service on my omnia, rocks.

My Omnia 7 keeps loosing it's 3G connection

My Omnia 7 keeps loosing it's 3G connection. To restore it I have to restart the phone. T-Mobile say that this happens from time to time, but it's happening every day now. It's annoying as it stops my push email from being up to date, and of course prevents the use of any internet based services until the phone is restarted.
Has anyone else noticed their phone has switching to GSM?
Had mine for 6 days.Been fine up until today,then I had the same problem.Only the once so far.
Confirm loosing 3G
Confirm loosing 3G connection, and also have phone call failures.
Factory reset did not solve the problem.
Bring it back to shop
Blackstone is back now!
At first this was occasional with my phone, then more frequent, and it's all the time. If I want to use the Internet I have to restart the phone. My house is covered by full HSPA, but the only way to get it is to take the battery out while the phone is switched on. I can sometimes get 3G by a simple restart, which I lasts about 40 minutes.
I like the phone, so I'm going to hold out for a software update. All it needs to do is check available networks and I think that, if this is a wide spread issue, Samsung/Microsoft will fix it. Hope so.
Please post here if you have this issue too.
I have also been having this issue... sometimes it doesnt come back straight away when i restart it but after about 10mins its back.
When I activated it with orange I was told to expect a few txt msg's that would need deleting and the phone restarting... I only got 1 msg, maybe this has something to do with it, maybe the phone hasnt been sent enough updates.
I also have this issue and have done for weeks. Orange couldn't solve it either.
It only happens overnight at home. I either need to reset the phone / rescan available networks or turn flight mode off and on again for the connection to restore.
I was thinking it may be an issue with t-mobile since it only happens at my home where orange signal is poor and i roam over to t-mobile.
If i stay in an area with good Orange signal i don't get the problem.
Good to know i'm not the only one with this problem. It's very annoying!
Hi y'all.
I had the same problem: 3G was lost every time. I was fed up restarting the phone every time, so I looked for another way to get 3G back. I found out that disabling and enabling SIM security (phone > setttings) got me 3G again... for a short while.
But: after disabling SIM security permanently, 3G kept on going (in fact for over a week now).
I think that changing the PIN to some other number, might cause this. I haven't yet tried changing it to the default PIN again, to see if using that for SIM security solves it. For the moment I'm too happy it works again.
I have suffered from poor reception issues ever since I got my Omnia 7.
It seems like the reception comes and goes. I will receive e-mails, which proves that the phone has been connected, but as soon as I try to use data myself, by visiting a web page or refreshing an app like facebook, the reception disappears and the "no reception" symbol drops down from the status bar.
Also, often when I try to send an SMS, it will appear to have been sent, yet 10 minutes later I will receive a "Can't send...try again" message. Once I have received this, the SMS will never successfully send. However, in the meantime I can receive SMS messages, which shows that the phone has been getting a signal.
This is SO frustrating and is ruining my experience with the phone.
I have posted requests on the Microsoft Answers forum and the only suggestions have been to reset the phone or turn WiFi off. Neither of these have had any effect. I have never enabled SIM lock.
I have heard that there is a firmware update due soon which includes a new radio stack. I am desperately hoping that this will improve the situation, as at the moment I cannot rely on my Omnia 7 as my only phone.
Alex.
Hi Loco,
You are right in saying that social answers doesn't really help much .
Luckily there IS a new firmware from a couple of days ago! Check out the Omnia 7 Dev section. There are only a few posts.
And here is also a good link for you. You are right to assume that it comes with a new radio stack which improves on performance.
http://wmpoweruser.com/new-samsung-omnia-7-firmware-and-news-of-a-keyboarded-omnia-8-leaks/
Finally found a thread on this... I have been having a similar problem since I got my phone from Optus here in Australia. I took it back and they replaced it for me but the new phone is exactly the same. I don't lose the 3G icon but anything data related just ceases from loading. Right now I'm trying to refresh the Facebook app and it just comes up with 'Unable to connect', even though I have full 3G reception.
I flashed it to the newer leaked firmware and it hasn't changed anything, problem still persists unfortunately. This is a major problem that isn't getting enough attention! It seems quite widespread and Omnia 7 specific.
Had similar problems, but after I changed my provider ( O2-Germany), 3G is stable.
For the people having this problem, have you tried setting the phone to prefer 3g? Details of how to do this are here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=915813
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Finally found a thread on this... I have been having a similar problem since I got my phone from Optus here in Australia. I took it back and they replaced it for me but the new phone is exactly the same. I don't lose the 3G icon but anything data related just ceases from loading. Right now I'm trying to refresh the Facebook app and it just comes up with 'Unable to connect', even though I have full 3G reception.
I flashed it to the newer leaked firmware and it hasn't changed anything, problem still persists unfortunately. This is a major problem that isn't getting enough attention! It seems quite widespread and Omnia 7 specific.
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Same here man. On Optus and my reception sucks with this device. What the hell is samsung doing? FIX IT!
I have been having this problem with my Omnia 7. The frustrating thing is this is a replacement phone I had for an LG which I had replaced THREE TIMES due to random resets. So now I have a phone that I have to turn off and on EVERY MORNING in order for the data connection to start working again. Needless to say I am very frustrated. I am on Orange in the UK. I suspect it could be related to when being an a poor reception area and it tries to switch to tmobile. I am going to try turning roaming off. Please, if anyone finds a solution to this let me know.
Thanks
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I have been having this problem with my Omnia 7. The frustrating thing is this is a replacement phone I had for an LG which I had replaced THREE TIMES due to random resets. So now I have a phone that I have to turn off and on EVERY MORNING in order for the data connection to start working again. Needless to say I am very frustrated. I am on Orange in the UK. I suspect it could be related to when being an a poor reception area and it tries to switch to tmobile. I am going to try turning roaming off. Please, if anyone finds a solution to this let me know.
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My problem got worse with the Mango update. I'm now on my 2nd handset after having a replacement from Orange warranty. This one still loses it's connection but much less frequently.
TBH i don't think it will ever get fixed. I started an MS Answers thread months ago and lots of people had the same problem but we never got a response from MS.
Conisdering the age of the model now I doubt Samsung care, well they didn't seem to care a year ago so they won't now... For this reason I will not buy another Samsung phone. It's infuriating.
Looks like I am stuck with it until December then when I can upgrade to a Nokia lumia. A long wait :-(
i have this issue, too.. but for me i only have to set airplane mode on and off. sometimes i deactivate data connection, go to a random website, get the 'no connection' error, then activate data connection back and it works.
however, after installing the latest drivers & firmware, i get this issue A LOT less frequent. like once in 2-3 days.
i hope ms or samsung will fix this because it can get really annoying. especially when you need eg. a quick google-search..
Just flicking the flight mode wouldn't be so bad but that doesn't work for me, I have to restart the phone each time. I love WP7 but this and the other problems with the LG is driving me nuts. Almost wondering whether I should have just followed the crowd and gone for an iPhone.
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Just flicking the flight mode wouldn't be so bad but that doesn't work for me, I have to restart the phone each time. I love WP7 but this and the other problems with the LG is driving me nuts. Almost wondering whether I should have just followed the crowd and gone for an iPhone.
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Same as me - Flicking flight mode on-off doesn't solve it, needs a soft-reset.
Like I say, there are quite a few with Omnias on Orange with this problem.
I'm in the same boat, I've had this for months now so I guess I'll just deal with it until I can upgrade the start of April and get a Lumia (hopefully the EU 900/910 will be here by then!). There is no way on this earth Samsung are getting any more of my money. Nokia seem fully commited so they can take my cash next time!
I have the same problem with the data stopping working on o2 in the UK. But I also sometimes cant receive calls even though the phone has service, then there are the times where it site there going GPRS/3G/3G+/No Service and you cant do anything with it apart from pull the battery.

Vote on whether your Dell Venue Pro is crashing frequently

Trying to see if there's something in common with those who are experiencing lock ups.
My crashes arent frequently but it has happened a few times
Seem like I am having some crashing, though it seems to be dependent on using data service with little or no 3G reception. 16gb Model.
My units is not crashing all the time but it does it at least once a day which is bad. It seems to be when trying to switch between using cell network and WiFi. Would be nice if it was fixable with firmware.
Mine hasn't crashed so far. I tried downloading Harvest Game and it went fine over wifi. Tried heavy browsing with music in bgrnd and that too was fine. Only issue was the Bluetooth not communicating to the car properly. Its been a week now.
ive crashed only once, which was in the newsroom app, i was also updating marketplace one time and instead of crashing it would just take me back to the start menu..
mine has been crashing quite a bit...16 gig less than 14 gig available...
In the first 36 hrs I had the phone, I spent at least half of it in the PC connect screen. The phone would not boot...well..sometimes. Then it would boot by itself...reboot rather.
I called MS, ZUNE support. They helped walked me through some basic steps. Apparently I was touching the side buttons, camera, volume down, while powering up. Not sure if this was true, but dam they could reproduce the PC connect everytime. Since that call, I was more careful about powering up and have had no problems since.
I do get a lag in IE on WiFi, sometimes, not often, but daily. I found a web page that always sends me back to the desktop.
But crashing.....I have to be honest and admit that most of the crashes...if not all, in the first 36 hrs, probably were user errors. Now, I'm not a novice. I own more smartphones than most people on this forum. And if the phone buttons are that sensitive, then something is not right. However, since I've grown accustomed to the button layout and sensitivity, I've not had a single malfunction.
I've also recognized that certain apps are prone to causing, umm....unexpected results. Maybe instead of voting on crashes...we should keep a list of app suspects....
I got 2 units.
The first one had the Wifi issue and was constantly crashing.
The second one the Wifi is good, and it never crashed.
Maybe is related?
It seems to me that my device crashes a lot when my Wifi is on
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Seem like I am having some crashing, though it seems to be dependent on using data service with little or no 3G reception. 16gb Model.
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Same here, also 16GB model. Every crash I've had has either been related to the Marketplace, or it's happened when my rickety 3G connection had poor signal.
This sucks. Mine is crashing EVERYTIME I try to dl something related to xbox live (games) over wifi. Should I have this exchanged???
Crashes a lot. Sometimes back to back so after doing numerous battery pulls, I had mine switched out. Its always an app though that crashes it and the screen becomes unresponsive. Phone goes to home screen and the people hub is grayed out. Its not an os specific crash cuz my hd7 doesn't do that.
So far phone is mostly stable, crashes have been only with wifi enabled, and only had 1 other crash without wifi on. Been running for the last 3 days, no crash at all.
I have had my phone almost a week and have been noticing the crashing a bit more frequent. It always seems like when I am in the MP or using an app that requires retrieving data from the cloud.
I got mine since November... never saw it crashing
Only once it would not start...I had to remove the batteries and put them back on.
I have a feeling it goes with having it in your pocket for a long time.
Sometimes (happened twice in 3 month) the screen locks but it has something to do with static electricity, or rain (I switched on and off and it worked).
I got it upgraded to 32 GB by swapping the micro SD card.
Took a while to boot.... (I think it reformats the card) worked like a charm!
Fankly, it is the sexiest piece of hardware I've owned in a long time.
Much more stable than any phone I ever owned.
I've had my 16GB since the 28th. I have not had a single crash, freeze or hang in the 5 days I have been using it. OS performance wise, it has pretty much been perfect.
I am probably not a typical owner though. I was an existing T-Mo customer on the EM+ plan. I didn't have to call or activate the DVP with T-Mo. I just took the SIM out of my flip phone and put it into my DVP and was up and running. Since I am on EM+ and I paid full price for the phone, I am also not required to have a data plan and I haven't gotten around to adding one yet. Everything I have done is solely over Wifi. I think the fact that I don't have a data plan is going to wind up being the explanation for my lack of problems. I don't know if it is a Microsoft or Dell problem, but 3G and WiFi just don't seem to get along well on the DVP.
Even though I have been limited to Wifi, I have been using this thing constantly trying to get everything setup. I haven't had any Marketplace issues at all. I've been using the Facebook, Twitter and Netflix apps quite a bit. No Xbox Live stuff or YouTube app though. I installed the LastPass app and tested almost all of 50+ logins without any issues. All in all, I think I have given my DVP a fairly tough stress test and I honestly have to say it has passed with pretty high marks.
That's not to say my DVP is perfect though. I have had some bugs. The biggest for me is the cellular antenna. I get a mediocre phone signal in my apartment. My flip phone would hover between 2 and 3 bars out of 5. I get much worse reception on the DVP. I get a ton of No Service notices, especially when I pick it up. But it isn't just a death grip issue. I'll sit the phone on the arm of my couch and watch it fluctuate between No Service and 1 or 2 bars. If I want to make a call on the DVP, I have to take laps around my apartment trying to find a decent signal. Not fun. Outside of the dead zone that live in the reception is fine. If I get 5 bars, it stays at 5 bars no matter how I hold it. I also don't care for the SMS texting app. When I attempt to send a text while I have a low signal, I don't get a confirmation either way after I hit send. I sent 3 texts in a row out on Thursday afternoon and only 1 got through. It would have been nice to see a "Message Sent" or Message Failed" confirmation either way. I also can't import Contacts from my Sim. I see the box for it on my People Settings page, but it is greyed out. Very annoying. And I know it's a known issue with Microsoft, but the not being able to connect to a WiFi with a hidden SSID is just ridiculous.
I really haven't made up my mind yet on whether I am keeping my DVP. On the one hand, I really like WP7 and it seems like I got lucky and got one of the problem free DVP's. But I'm also not sure if I can live with the bad reception at home. I guess I'll just have to wait and see if anything interesting is announced at CES.
16GB and it locked up all of the time... It would just freeze there with whatever it was on the screen. That happened until I turned Wifi off. Now it's great. The only time that it crashed with wifi off was when I was running Beezz and it just hard locked for some reason.
So I would like to have Wifi... 3G coverage is spotty at best where I live. What are the chances of a firmware fix, ya think? I'm almost tempted to send it back to Dell... Even though I love it to death. Gosh that keyboard is amazing...
I sure hope it gets sorted out...
Can someone list the symptoms of crashing? Is it just screen freeze or apps won't launch when touched or something different? I had case y'day where except people, email and phone, none of the other apps would launch. When launched it would just return to the home screen right away. Then a battery pull fixed it. That was the first i had the issue since receiving the phone on 12/23. I have time till end of this week to decide on return or replacement.
MikeDupp said:
I am probably not a typical owner though. I was an existing T-Mo customer on the EM+ plan. I didn't have to call or activate the DVP with T-Mo. I just took the SIM out of my flip phone and put it into my DVP and was up and running. Since I am on EM+ and I paid full price for the phone, I am also not required to have a data plan and I haven't gotten around to adding one yet.
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Mike, have you received any calls on it yet? My experience has been that you can make outgoing calls all you want, but you need to tell T-Mo the new IMEI number to receive calls. That could also be why you haven't gotten a notification about the text messages.
When I called T-Mo to get the phone set up, they also told me about the available insurance plans (from $5.99/mo that covers the phone completely-loss/theft/damage/etc, to less than $2 for minimal coverage). I was on an out-of-contract plan too and had to pick up the phone at full price. My plan was phone+data, no messaging, so I only pay for texting. Everything done over WiFi or 3G has been great.
As for crashes, I think it's locked up 3 times now that required removing the battery and putting it back in. Those all happened within the first few days of owning it, but not since. (got it on the 23rd)

Source of connection, phone call problem.

Seems nobody talks about the call problems anymore. My guess is people given upp. Well the good news from Sweden Samsung is that they are aware of the problem! They have keept denying it or saying tbay cant replicate the problem. Finaly it seems like they are actually trying to get there hands dirty. Maybe because its on all new Samsung mobiles.
Now i was having a idea about the source of the problem, but to get some peace of mind on it, all can post if it works, or not. Hopefully we can at least get to the source of the problem.
Now here is my take on the issues, my way of counting out factors:
Here in Sweden, only 1 carrier have Edge on there network. And its the only company reporting call/connection issues. (calls get randomly muted, robot calls, phone keeps changing network, slow internet etc)
Samsung have a new codec on there phones, trying to achive a new, better, call quality. So my belives is that audio codec have trouble using Edge, and that could at least be a start to find the root of evil (but with a great original idea)
So, do you have the mute call issue? Yes/No
Do your carrier have Edge? Yes/No
Plz answer and lets see if we have a more direct approach to complain/call in issues to Samsung all around the world, remember. The more that reports/complain to the company, bigger chance they speed up time to fix it ... although Samsung isnt fast to come around :/
Well post away, does it work on Edge or not?
Yes I have this problem and my operator has EDGE. And I'm battling to get another phone in this price range (probably the HTC desire HD), becasue my service can't fix this and the operator has no clue to what could be wrong. I recomend you ditch the omnia to.
Remember to not but Samsung s2 or any, same prob.:-(. Been thinking the same as you but im gona stick to it cuz my phone is carrier free etc, and my current contract ends in 3-4 months or so, so im on to a new carrier. Sad but thru. Samsung should have addressed this issue fast, now there paying the price on other newer models.
Thnx for the reply, 1 answer and still on right track :-D
given up is the correct word...
next phone won't be samsung either way =) just to bother them!
Can you relate to edge problem to?
Seems there is no Omnia 7 uers left =(
Yes I have the mute call issue, but as far as I can tell, my Carrier does not use EDGE.
When the mute call occurs I see the phone rapidly trying to change networks, and ultimately if it settles on G there are no more mutes in that call. If it goes back to 3G it happens again. During that time the phone loses the signal completely, then jumps back to full once the switch is complete.
Darn, that could mean the end of my theory. Make sure your 100% sure.
Now, with so little going on, i thought people would love a poll to klick on =P
As far as I could find out, My carrier had a test rollout of EDGE in one city, but didn't continue with it. So, no, no EDGE atleast not in the areas I go to.
I'm in Austria, Provider is A1 and it uses EDGE
Fixed my problem by locking the phone to 3G network
Downside is that I have no signal in an area where 3G coverage is poor...
(so I've to switch back to automatic mode sometimes)...
man, this sucks really bad...
Given up describes it best, so many critical bugs (not only the call issue), never ever Samsung again, its a brick with a great screen. How come early reviews didnt report any of these flaws...
I locked the Phone to 3G and still experience silence during calls and creepy modem sounds. Phone tries to switch 3g on and off and eventually loses signal altogether. Last time I could not end the call after it went silent, windows just froze saying "ending call.....".
Usually doesnt happen in areas with really good coverage like cities, but rural areas make it unusable.
You used Cheveron? I have the call issue bug. Sometimes it happens and sometimes its like there no problem. Its like some days is a bad day and other a good day.
I know for a fact that all carriers in Sweden have no problems exept 1. And since the phone is otherwise the best, im soon changing carrier ... cant wait.
I bought my omnia about 5 months ago from ebay and I face this mute problem since, I was living in Oman when I bought this and now I am living in Indonesia and still facing the same problem even if I used another carrier SIM card.
Actually in my case this problem start only when I received a call and I start can hear the caller voice exactly after 12 seconds of connection and after that call, the mute problem happen for all incoming and outgoing call and I need to restart the phone if I want to make outgoing call without mute problem.
Are you guys having the same symtomp and situation?
fyi all carriers in oman and indonesia has both edge and 3G mode, but locking the phone to 3G didn't solve the problem in my case.
yep pretty much the same, you need to restart it in order to place a call again. That however doesnt guarantee that it wont bug again in a couple of minutes. Its very sensitive to signal strength, hence it happens very irregularly, nevertheless its not an operator issue.
Its maybe more pronounced on some networks since coverage varies.
Locking to edge definitely wont fix it, since it will bug on 3g / 3g+ switching still. It is a Samsung radio issue, its time they finally take credit for their flaws...the hard way.
Some more info from me. My theory is that this is not a Samsung-operator problem but only samsung problem. Because I have also tried my phone with a diferent SIM and i had the same problems, mute/modem calls, a little less but nonetheless. So this I think is totaly a Samsung f*** up. I you can excange your phone for a nother in the price range. The HTC sensation seems good but I know it's android but hey better android then a phone that even can't handle calls. I myself am in talks with my operator to change the Omnia for the sensation because they can not fix the problem. I also got we never heard of this before and then I recorded a video of the phone making the modem sounds (the video is on the forum) and presented it to them and said that they fix this or another phone, and now they I think will never know how to fix it so I will probably get a new phone (the sensation). Cheers.
That its Samsungs fault is there no question about. But i just wanted to se if Edge could be a problem, as it seems to be in Sweden at least. And help folks at, for now, choose a diff carrier that might work better = we are all sleeping soundly. Omnia 7 is the best phone out there atm according to me. But thiss connection/ mute call is really destroying one of the best phones atm. :'(
@voltageMX, lucky you but I think you're going to miss samoled display since Sensation only have SLCD display but at least you'll have a phone that working as a phone.
Too bad I bought my omnia from ebay...so I can't ask for replacement from the seller.
my only hope is mango update will cure the problem...
When call issue occurs i usally turns phone off, remove battery a short short while and start it up. I have noticed this have a lottery effect, i can go some day without the issue, only to se it return again, but as a temp fix it ...is better then nothing =/
Now is there any others that called Samsung in there country recently? In Sweden we got a radio Firmware you can get...by sending in your phonE!!!
But it seems to do the jobb. Internet have been reported faster also. We had users signing up and talking directly to Samsung to aid them in there search for the problem. And finally we got it. Waiting for my phone to return so ill report back about firmware version etc.
So, anybody recently talked to Samsung?
Hi,
I'm from Malaysia and I used to have the 2 seconds mute when I was on a 2G network. After that I switch to an operator which only has 3G (domestic roaming for 2G) and I don't face that issue anymore.

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