[Q] VoIP Soultions Winmo7 - Omnia 7 General

With Skype saying "no go" to Winmo7, do we know of any other solutions that might come to light with backbone VoIP services, Skype was great if anyone has used the Skype Number feature where you get a 01, 02 number on your account, meaning my 0800 number could be and was diverted to my mobile at local rates on my data plan anywhere i go.
Just thought i would throw this out there for anyone else in the same *ish* boat with VoIP not being anywhere near the App marketplace soon it seems.
Loving the new Omnia 7, Got it 2 days ago now and fitting in nicely apart from above said future issue.
Lets hope Skype see this and want to keep my subs in the new year...

I don't think Skpe have actually said no to WP7 - last I read it was just that they'd said they weren't currently working on a WP7 version (and this was back a fair few months ago, well before it was released). I've no doubt they will create a WP7 app, but without socket support they won't get far, so I would guess they'll need to work with MS on this one.
But I'm sure that VOIP will become available - things are moving more in this direction anyway - only got VOIP at home and I love it!

I'm with you on that one, I had Vonage when it first came out so free calls to every landline in the UK and around the world while people still paid BT line rental + bband + call costs to landlines.... and moaned about it like they couldn't do anything...
This is what i found on Skype that worried me and all the hype about them dropping Winmo on the net. But i hope WP7 might bring them back
*Click* What Skype Have to Say
Looks that way that they might be drawn back*i'm hoping*.... but you never know....

Sounds to me (from the above link) like they pulled the app to replace it with a new WP7 app, that's also in line with the iPhone app in terms of aesthetics and performance.

Some better answers than i was expecting tbh, I'm just hoping thats the case, Would love it too come out soon so will only have one device then

Check out Voxofon in the meantime guys
Search for it on Marketplace or http://www.voxofon.com/mobile_windows_phone.html

Nice one, app looks smart, I need a voip service that can supply me with an 01, 02 to forrward my 0800 number too... Not so much just outgoing calls.
Hoping Skype arn't gonna sit on this one long.... Commmmmmon Skype

Google voice should be coming to the platform soon as well

AceofSpades25 said:
Google voice should be coming to the platform soon as well
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Already there i believe, Saw it and wondered if it was the same thing, Seems you can dial out/ Call people, But no mention of any backbone VOIP services they can offer like the 01, 02 number

would sipgate.co.uk work?
mwako said:
Nice one, app looks smart, I need a voip service that can supply me with an 01, 02 to forrward my 0800 number too... Not so much just outgoing calls.
Hoping Skype arn't gonna sit on this one long.... Commmmmmon Skype
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Nice one, Exactly that sort of solution, but for a mobile I like to be anywhere and i can route my 0800 anywhere i am at local rates, not mobile rates.
Which is like 2p land line number
25p mobile... see why i like Skype...
Looks like they are going to make a WP7 app, just more...when...than if... now
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Answering Machine software

I have search high and low, but have not foudn this feature anywhere.
It is so convenient to have a software that can pick up the phone, play a message, then record it.
It is faster, easier, and you can keep the recording if you want!
i used to have this feature on my old phone, now I miss it...
anyone know of a software that does this?
no.
gigabyte has it on there wm5 phones:
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=391825
I have seen one aftermarket app that did it also but cant remember the name of it.
It would be kewl if someone had a gigabyte one and could extract it from the extended rom and post it.
since your charged minutes for calling your voicemail to listen to it, this saves you airtime if you have a low minute plan.
try this
k7.net is a free service that provides you with a seattle number that you can use to receive voicemails and faxes. i set it up to send voicemails and faxes to my mda as email. at home i setup my voip phone to copy any voicemail to my mda too. now i get everything to my wizard.
hope this helps,
sl
You'd think this would be a highly sought after feature.
The phone I had almost 3 years ago had this feature. I wonder why it is not so prevalent these days. It is so much quicker and easier than having to dial a voice mail service, or sync messages to the phone.
hmm, maybe this is somethign that should be developed?
Any takers?
hi dear
check this site
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=4698
may be you want to TRY this
remember
TRY
This 1 is free.
work for me.
http://aalialikoski.members.winisp.net/BlogContent/Projects/SMSNotifier/SMSNotifierSetup.cab
This 1 is free.
work for me.
http://aalialikoski.members.winisp.net/BlogContent/Projects/SMSNotifier/SMSNotifierSetup.cab
Thanks for the thoughts, but I looked at the SMS answering machine before, and while it a novel program, it is really just an auto-responder, not an answering machine.
Thanks again, but I am really looking for something that actaully records voice messages.
:?
Alternative to answering Machine - CallWave
when someone leaves a message you get an email of the message that you can save. www.callwave.com
Ah, callwave is interesting, but alas, only in the US. I am in China now. Thats another reason I don't want to use voice mail. Navigating your voice mail in Chinese is sometimes very annoying.
I guess there is no real solution to this then? So sad, too bad. :?

Answer Machine For Windows Mobile 5

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Sell your phone and buy a Gigabyte GSmart or a Nokia Symbian phone instead!
This is not possible on HTC's Pocket PC phones.
LOL im new to the Hermes world but im quite glad and amused to see such posts about the elusive answering machine happening down here.
st3v3 said:
... answering machine happening down here.
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Here? He has a gazillion posts EVERYWHERE. Some people just wont learn. What is there to do with these people posting gazillion posts..
abubasim said:
Sell your phone and buy a Gigabyte GSmart or a Nokia Symbian phone instead!
This is not possible on HTC's Pocket PC phones.
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it is impossible on Hermes, but it might be possible with Prophet. Prophet can record conversations (both side), and it can automatically pick up the phone, so if someone finds a way to play a sound for the other party, then we have an answering machine!
Depends on your definition of answering machine.
I've acomplished this, somewhat.
Get a service like CallWave that can forward voicemail to an email attachment, notification via SMS.
Sign up for AIM email (2gb). Link to that in Pocket outlook. Send receive when u text a txt indicating that you have a new VM.
caveats: REQUIRES LARGE DATA XFER plan. It IS an answering machine in the sense that your vm will play out of the speaker. -- unless you have a wired headset or get A2DP. I had a problem with AIM mail not receiving emails from one of my providers. Workaround: GMAIL forwards to AIM.
I prefer aim for this cos it allows IMAP, incase you want to set up your other, non hermes devices to "read" you voicemails.
HTH
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OR u can even set to do this for a PUSH email acct. This way, lets say u miss a call, and you don't see it until much later... by the time u look at it, email w. attachment will already be sitting in the inbox, waiting.
or just use the answering machine most telcos offer with the plan you sign up with, its what i use.
i did like the one on nokia, that and the app that puts sounds into the background of your call but Pocket pc has soooo many other cool features its easy to overlook these.
st3v3 said:
or just use the answering machine most telcos offer with the plan you sign up with, its what i use.
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That one is not free with many operators in your home country (I for instance pay the air time for listenimg to recorded calls) and THREE times the money as an onboard solution when roaming (roaming with onboard: you pay 1 time the roaming fee (you pay the call being forwarded to the country you roam in) / roaming with your solution: You pay the call being forwarded to the country you roam in, then pay for having the call routed back to your home country where the AM is and finally pay for listening to the message).
Franky
Franky24 said:
That one is not free with many operators in your home country . . . [snip!]
Franky
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. . . one more thing: operators' voice mail doesn't allow fancy stuff like diverting some people to voice mail, others to /dev/null (busy tone). This you can do with Symbian-based software like SmartAnswer. I wouldn't expect anything less from WM5-based apps.
Why I Secretary can’t mute the microphone of my xperia x1 and why the caller can’t hear my answer message
How can I fix this using registry or any tweak tool for windows mobile 6.1
thanks

(full) Skype on Android

(full) Skype on Android, is it coming????
I found this from May 2010 (come on Skype it is about time, time to catch the market or we all move on...)
http://skattertech.com/2010/05/skype-mobile-coming-to-sprint-htc-evo-4g/
"Skype envisions a world where video plays a larger role in the way we communicate. The next generation innovation involving video calling will not be bound to the computer. We’re seeing a proliferation of video calling shared between all kinds of connected devices. It’s on computers (today 1/3 of all calls on Skype happen via video), televisions (Skype bringing video calls to living rooms via Panasonic, Samsung & LG partnership), and it will eventually be coming to mobile devices too. We’re betting big on video, and we intend to set the bar on mobile video calling, and it’s something we’re going to do this year.
We will be bringing a direct to consumer app to the Android marketplace later this year. This application will be available for all consumers globally to download regardless of carriers. (i.e. similar to how we offer the iPhone app today)"
– Brianna Reynaud, Skype PR
Skype’s bold statement was clear on two things: they will be launching a mobile video calling service as well as a standard Android app this year.
Update 5/28/10 9:41AM: After a quick phone call from Skype’s PR team early this morning, it looks like they may have pulled the trigger a bit too soon with this comment. According to Reynaud, Skype will definitely be releasing a “direct-to-consumer” Android App this year, however the aren’t completely disclosing whether mobile video calling is an included feature.
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I don't know why so many people want SKype on Android so bad when Google Voice is cheaper and better.
brunes said:
I don't know why so many people want SKype on Android so bad when Google Voice is cheaper and better.
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Skype is available to users in (just about) any country, providing free video chat to both parties (for now at least)....simple enough until Google roles something more universal out.
A. People already have a large base of contacts on Skype.
B. Google voice isn't available outside to the majority of the worlds population, who just happen to live outside the USA.
brunes said:
I don't know why so many people want SKype on Android so bad when Google Voice is cheaper and better.
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I have Google Voice on my SGS, and I had to go through great lengths to get it, as I'm not from USA. That right there is your first reason for wanting Skype. Skype is global. Then, once I had everything installed, I noticed that Google Voice uses a callback system. This results in significant lag if you' re outside of USA. Also, Skype is both a chat, a voice, and a video call software, packaged nicely into one app. If you' re in USA, I understand why GV is more appealing to you, but everywhere else Skype makes more sense.
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exactly, i would LOVED to use Google Voice, but it only works if you are in the USA, if you are not in USA you get an error message.
Skype IS already available for Android, but it only works for the #3 network in UK, its locked to only work on #3 network SIM cards
if some one can maybe HACK that version of skype and ignore the check for #3 network, then we can all use it
Fring
You should use Fring. It is free! it can do video conferencing sms(chat) and make phone calls. I use it for a while now with some other people and it works FANTASTIC! I recommend testing fring first before going to pay for something that can be freely done.
nimbuzz is also a good option.
andrej.marinic said:
I have Google Voice on my SGS, and I had to go through great lengths to get it, as I'm not from USA. That right there is your first reason for wanting Skype. Skype is global. Then, once I had everything installed, I noticed that Google Voice uses a callback system. This results in significant lag if you' re outside of USA. Also, Skype is both a chat, a voice, and a video call software, packaged nicely into one app. If you' re in USA, I understand why GV is more appealing to you, but everywhere else Skype makes more sense.
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Can you make a post, or link to an article, regarding your set up and results of Google Voice (what lags and how much? How long did it take to set up? Do you have full functionality? Do you only use a tiny bit of it's full functionality due to competing services being better? etc.). I find Google Voice easy to download, but I never really tried to extract its functionality. Would you do it all over again? Please, the more information, in a "overseas review" like form, the better and the process used would be great!
Thanks in advance.
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I don't know why so many people want SKype on Android so bad when Google Voice is cheaper and better.
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Google Voice does not do VOIP either.
I have skype for android beta version but happy with it. Download somewhere in the xda forums.
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I thought Fring no longer had Skype?
septlc said:
nimbuzz is also a good option.
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Nimbuzz automatically unblocks your skype contacts -.- Never had the skype voip work but for IM it works alright. An official skype app would be quite wanted.
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You know there is a program called Fringe? It allows anyone to do voice or videochat freely. Point your GalS here m.fringe.com and install. register is easy too.
Add me if you want to test your video call lol, my fringe Id is: jueyn
AllGamer said:
exactly, i would LOVED to use Google Voice, but it only works if you are in the USA, if you are not in USA you get an error message.
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You can use GV outside the USA fairly easily by a combination of SipDroid and ipkall.com
i suppose using ip relay service would work, but that usually inherit a certain lag, definitely not something you want in a VoiceIP call.
even when browsing a website ifyou use IP relays it always gets delays
brunes said:
I don't know why so many people want SKype on Android so bad when Google Voice is cheaper and better.
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Because there are millions of android users outside US who don’t have access to google voice. Skype is sometimes even used synonymously with VOIP, there is a huge demand for it. That’s why so many people ask for it. Even businesses use it as their official telephony method for overseas calling.
brunes said:
You can use GV outside the USA fairly easily by a combination of SipDroid and ipkall.com
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Have you tried this yourself ?? SIP relaying introduces a huge delay. And the last time I tried SipDroid I had a terrible echoing problem as well.
PrimalFury said:
You should use Fring. It is free! it can do video conferencing sms(chat) and make phone calls. I use it for a while now with some other people and it works FANTASTIC! I recommend testing fring first before going to pay for something that can be freely done.
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Fring is not really an alternative to Skype, for one, it doesn’t support Skype, you can make voice calls for some other networks (gtalk, MSN) but the client has a huge delay and a terrible echo to the point where it is almost unusable. I have tried fring on different countries in Asia Pacific region with very good Wi-Fi and 3G connections, but results were almost same. Very rarely I could get a usable connection, so you cant rely on it. Video calls only work between fring clients, and there is no desktop version that supports video calling, this IMO severely limits usability. Besides, video calling is provided at reasonable rates in many countries in the asia pacific region, so there is not much of a need to use a VOIP client to make domestic video calls between cell phones. Same goes for Nimbuzz (perhaps the delay and echo is even worse). So neither of those clients is usable, at least on Galaxy S in some of the Asian Pacific countries.
Either Skype has become a puppet of Verizon, or they don’t care anymore, because they get enough money already mainly from PC clients and Verizon partnership.
Anyways, I have given up hope of using Skype on my mobile, now using a VOIP service that support call back (12voip.com). Their IDD rates are cheaper than Skype (even after paying for calls both ways : incoming to your phone and outgoing to other phone), voice quality is not too bad either.
Fring is not support in 2.2 for the time being... you can install but you cant make proper voice call... so dont even try to mention video call...

SMS/TXT on xoom

This may be a dumb question, but does anyone know if sending/receiving txts would be possible from a wifi only xoom? I imagine it would work in gtalk, but I would like if there was a way to do it from handcent or something. Likely I will be either connected to my house wifi/work wifi/tether from my D1. If my phone isnt in my hand, but my Xoom is, id rather reply/send a text from the xoom, rather than screwing around with what device is where, I would like to use the xoom if thats whats in my hand at the time.
Anyone think there is a shot at this?
Only other guess I would have is that I think my phone has a sms backup that automatically saves a text into my gmail. The Xoom would need to set up to notify me of a new email (not hard to do), however my replies would then be sent as an email, which might not work the best....
I would assume google voice would work. It sends SMS out through data rather than as an actual SMS, so it should work. But, I do not know since I dont have a xoom, ha.
Google voice shouldn't be a problem. I'd imagine it works like any other android device.
i will add this question to "for those on the borderline, what do you want to know" thread and we will find out if it works with google voice. handcent probably wont work as there has to be a text messaging app already i believe
wont you have to text with your google voice number instead of your phone number?
Legacystar said:
wont you have to text with your google voice number instead of your phone number?
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Yes, but that is likely the only option.
im sure someone will make an app that will link to your phone and let you remote control your texts from the xoom
excuse my lack of knowledge for google voice. I tried to do a little quick research.. If I want to keep my number (I have had it since like 2002), I am reading that you can pay to port it to GV? So I would pay the $20, and then I would be good?
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Wait I just saw porting actually cancels your current phone service, no way I am doing that...
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excuse my lack of knowledge for google voice. I tried to do a little quick research.. If I want to keep my number (I have had it since like 2002), I am reading that you can pay to port it to GV? So I would pay the $20, and then I would be good?
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Yes and no. You would essentially be porting your number to google and would then need to get a new number from your cell provider. You may be hit with an ETF if you are still on contract though.
In it's simplest form, Google Voice is essentially a forwarding service. You have a number with GV that will forward calls and texts to the phones that you have set up. For example, I have my Nexus One (personal), iPhone (work) and office phone configured. WHen someone calls my GV number, it rings all three phones. When I get a text, it is forwarded to any mobile device with GV installed and set up with my account.
What about VoIP using Google Voice on the Xoom?
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im sure someone will make an app that will link to your phone and let you remote control your texts from the xoom
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I hope so, because I dont want to use a different (GV) phone number, and I am not interested in porting my number; messing up my contract...
If anyone knows any good developers, ask them if they think some type of program is even possible. It would be worth a few bucks
You know what.. and I really hope this becomes the solution.. it just seems to make sense. Does anybody know about that Sony Ericson bluetooth device that comes with a strap to look like a watch? And it kind of gets data from your android phone such as text messages, weather, incoming/missed calls etc.
So you keep your phone in your pocket, but have all the info you may want to check right on your wrist.
If you could just sync your android tablet with your android phone through BT, just like that SE product, so you can use its data connection, receive/respond to text messages, that would be awesome. I can see a problem in this where carriers want to double dip by making u get a separate plan for each, but with wireless hotspot it doesn't even matter. It just makes everything more convenient.
Maybe its just me, but something like this would be a HUGE feature in my eyes. Plus, it gives people a reason to use not one but two android devices. Win-Win for Google, and users who like both products.
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I hope so, because I dont want to use a different (GV) phone number, and I am not interested in porting my number; messing up my contract...
If anyone knows any good developers, ask them if they think some type of program is even possible. It would be worth a few bucks
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I agree. I'm trying to hold out on the WiFi-only version as well, and I would love to be able to answer text messages on my Xoom. Swyping on my Evo is really easy, but not having to switch devices would definitely be worth a few bucks!
MichaelWestin said:
You know what.. and I really hope this becomes the solution.. it just seems to make sense. Does anybody know about that Sony Ericson bluetooth device that comes with a strap to look like a watch? And it kind of gets data from your android phone such as text messages, weather, incoming/missed calls etc.
So you keep your phone in your pocket, but have all the info you may want to check right on your wrist.
If you could just sync your android tablet with your android phone through BT, just like that SE product, so you can use its data connection, receive/respond to text messages, that would be awesome. I can see a problem in this where carriers want to double dip by making u get a separate plan for each, but with wireless hotspot it doesn't even matter. It just makes everything more convenient.
Maybe its just me, but something like this would be a HUGE feature in my eyes. Plus, it gives people a reason to use not one but two android devices. Win-Win for Google, and users who like both products.
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hahahahaha so crazy you say that. Back in 2004 I almost dropped out of college to attempt to patent the watch like idea.. after consulting with a friend whose dad was a patent attorney, he said there were some similar ideas floating around, and the risk likely wouldnt be worth it.. Regardless, for my MBA last year, we had to create a new product. When I shared this idea with my group members, and told them how it was an idea I came up with back in 2004, we went with it, was a fun class project!
Oh yeah, here is the link
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/09/28/sony-ericsson-liveview™/
For what it is worth, my Galaxy Tab let's me send texts from the Galaxy Tab phone number.
Another reason I went with Sprint over Verizon. Sprint was $29.99 for 5GB and unlimited messaging versus Verizon which was $20 for 1GB and no messaging.
I'm kind of bummed the Xoom won't be on Sprint initially, but oh well...I don't really *need* another number to text from.
Is it possible to insert your mobile's sim card into the tablet and be able to use the data of your existing phone contract?
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Is it possible to insert your mobile's sim card into the tablet and be able to use the data of your existing phone contract?
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This is a CDMA device. I don't think there is a sim card slot.
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The Xoom is CDMA, but there is a (micro, I believe) sim card slot. It will be used when verizon rolls out 4g. Unfortunately this doesn't mean that GSM sim cards can be used.
another way of maybe doing it is if we got something like "MyMobiler" for android, and a version that rather pc viewing cell, tablet viewing cell..
Its things like this that make me wish I was a programmer not involved in finance.. haha

Is There An App Like GrooveIP For WP7?

Iim looking for an app like grooveIP for windows phone 7. groove ip is an app that uses google voice's servers to place free calls using 3g/4g/wifi. i tried freetalk and others arent like it. this is the only thing stopping me from switching over.
jookdakang23 said:
Iim looking for an app like grooveIP for windows phone 7. groove ip is an app that uses google voice's servers to place free calls using 3g/4g/wifi. i tried freetalk and others arent like it. this is the only thing stopping me from switching over.
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There is, sort of... The one I use is called GoVoice and its not as tightly integrated as GrooveIP but it works for the most part over 3G/4G. I'm really not sure if it works over wifi at the moment but I'm sure others will chime in. You can pin the dialer as a live tile and you can also take advantage of text, etc.
Like I said, its not that tight but WP is brilliant and if that's the only thing stopping you, I'd definately give it a go.
Good luck to you whatever you decide
mobi said:
There is, sort of... The one I use is called GoVoice and its not as tightly integrated as GrooveIP but it works for the most part over 3G/4G. I'm really not sure if it works over wifi at the moment but I'm sure others will chime in. You can pin the dialer as a live tile and you can also take advantage of text, etc.
Like I said, its not that tight but WP is brilliant and if that's the only thing stopping you, I'd definately give it a go.
Good luck to you whatever you decide
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Hi, has there been any development on IP calling that supports google voice on WM7 or 7.5?
hydeah said:
Hi, has there been any development on IP calling that supports google voice on WM7 or 7.5?
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Yes. Windows Phone (WP7 - WM refers to Windows Mobile and that O/S ceased development after version 6.5*) has come a long way over the past year. I would not say that voip calling is still as integrated as other platforms are yet but it is certainly doable and easy. The Skype app will do everything you need. You have voip from 3G/4G and wifi. You can send text messages over wifi as well as a new feature where you can send video messages too. It should accomplish everything you need it to do.
Good luck.
Thanks Mobi.
I am primarily interested in UMA-like functionality, seamless operation between wifi and cellular. Basicall there are two reasons for this. One is being able to get signal where there isn't a strong cellular signal, places like storage facility and company's offices that are way inside. The other is while traveling overseas being able to make calls as if I am still in the states. This is another huge advantage if the phone supports native wifi calling. Even if that's not possible I was able to do it with GrooveIP and still use my own number.
Skype is a totally different ballpark, for starters, you would have to pay for that service. Skype to Skype probably works the best on Windows Phone nowadays. No matter which other platform I tried, nothing beats Skype on Windows Phone. I have nothing against any other platforms (I am a blackberry person myself) but I surely hope Windows eventually gets to a point where it is one big system and total operation between desktop & mobile. Making it an extension of your desktop.. Remember Windows Smartphone and WM5? Pocket PC with Cellular service? To date, my favorite "tablet" is Dell Axim.

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