I would like to purchase a new cd head unit for my car and use my Zune Pass on my WP7 to play all my music via USB.
Why USB and not 3.5mm aux cable?
I would like to be able to charge my WP7 device and control volume/play/pause/etc from the car CD head unit rather than my WP7 device
Right now, the only CD head units I know of that are capable of this with Zune devices is 2 head units from Kenwood:
w ww.crutchfield.com/shopsearch/zune.html
Has anyone tried this or have another method to get this to work?
thanks
I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish is doable, and it's unlikely that it will be. The Win7 phones, at this time, don't have a standard Zune connector, which has specific pinouts for different functions, such as, passing audio, charging, basically controlling functions, etc. (much like the pinout on the iPods/iPhone)
Since all of the phones, at this time, have just USB mini/micro connectors, there has to be a driver associated on the receiver/computer/other device that knows how to communicate with the phone, process what you're trying to accomplish, and basically have digital two-way communication.
The more likely way, is to have a bluetooth enabled head deck, that allows two-way control (I'm pretty sure these are out, not sure about the two way), and a separate car charger...
Anyone else have any input that might help?
I have a kenwood BT-900 car stero that suports the zune hd through the USB port
it works awsome
I now have the WP7 and my kenwood does not see the phone at all only thorugh bluetooth but still does not do music streaming like to should
I beleave the will be testing the new phone out but as you know they don't tell me very much, all I know is the 2 of the support reps ordered WP7s and thought it would work fine but in fact it does not
I'm sure they will have some fix soon I'm hoping
gibbyhome said:
I have a kenwood BT-900 car stero that suports the zune hd through the USB port
it works awsome
I now have the WP7 and my kenwood does not see the phone at all only thorugh bluetooth but still does not do music streaming like to should
I beleave the will be testing the new phone out but as you know they don't tell me very much, all I know is the 2 of the support reps ordered WP7s and thought it would work fine but in fact it does not
I'm sure they will have some fix soon I'm hoping
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thank you for posting this, I was researching to buy that particular kenwood strictly for this reason. you just saved me a couple hundred dollars.
My car is a Peugeot, about 2 years ago i installed an Extension Box so I can use an USB-Stick to listen to my music. (It uses the external CD-Case Port on the Radio.)
The small box also enabled to connect I-Pod and I-Phone and was able to browse & play from them.
When I connect my WP7 it beeps all the time and can't even load the battery.
As I know, the box writes a playlist on any USB drive which is connected so I suppose WP7 simply doesn't allow this =(.
Hopefully this will be changed by some kind of driver.
I have a KDC-BT8041U in my truck. I connect to it via Bluetooth and use a usb charger when needed. I usually just hit the random play button (the two music notes in a circle on main screen) in Zune Music and then I can use the remote or on dash controls of my Kenwood to skip forward and backward through the songs. I can also pause and mute. The only down side is it does not show song title, artist, etc. on the screen of the stereo and I can't search for specific songs using the stereo. But it is still much better sound quality then AUX jack and you wont have to get caught with your phone in your hands while driving. (illegal where I live)
Another cool feature about this is the music fades out when you get an incoming text or call then resumes after your done. Be sure to go to settings, speech and enable speech recognition over the network, then at the bottom turn Read aloud incoming text messages to bluetooth so you can respond to your text messages using your voice. Work really good.
Guys, you are searching unreal things. It's not a Zune player, it a diffirent device at hardware and connectivity too.
Only one way to use our phone in car is a Bluetooth. It work good, as headset and throught A2DP for hearing music and control playback from car hi-fi.
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I found out I can put rhapsody tracks on the SD card on my Titan (XV6800) so I've been using it as my car MP3 player. Problem is when it's plugged into the charger I get some noise (the phone is connected to my car using an aux port.) My question is does anyone use a similar setup, and if so what do you use as your charger? Right now I'm using a cig port to USB thing. I could probably reroute the ground, but I'd rather not deal with the mess of wires.
is this capable?
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is this capable?
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?? Are you asking how I have my phone as my MP3 player?
You need something like this. I have that connected to the 2.5mm/USB splitter that comes with the phone, then there's a 3.5mm lead that goes from that connector to my car stereo's aux input.
Considering there's a mic on the adapter, it doubles as a handsfree kit so when a call comes in, the music pauses and I can hear the caller through my stereo.
Pioneer Avic D3
I have the Pioneer Avic D3x in my car with the bluetooth module. I just installed it. I had to install a plugin on the mogul called a Jet something and it connected fine with my audio in the car. I can listen to my radio station SuperRadioMix.com and it mutes out when someone calls. The station streams perfectly to my mogul phone. This may sound like a advertising for my radio station....and it is. . Just to let you know you can do it.
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DJ C-Zer said:
I have the Pioneer Avic D3x in my car with the bluetooth module. I just installed it. I had to install a plugin on the mogul called a Jet something and it connected fine with my audio in the car. I can listen to my radio station SuperRadioMix.com and it mutes out when someone calls. The station streams perfectly to my mogul phone. This may sound like a advertising for my radio station....and it is. . Just to let you know you can do it.
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Oh yea, blutooth would solve the problem because it's most likely related to the common ground, however I already have a rather nice Eclipse head, so I'm not looking to replace it. I am looking around for blutooth adapters though.
That noise you're hearing is a ground loop. The only way to get rid of it is to use some kind of ground loop noise isolator, like this one:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-Q56nh4BU3tR/App/Product/Item/Main.aspx?i=127SNI135
I use Mortplayer on my Titan for MP3's as well as streaming radio. It works really good!
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i had a mini usb to 3.5 adapter but didnt work, i have verizon? any possible links?
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i had a mini usb to 3.5 adapter but didnt work, i have verizon? any possible links?
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This is exactly what I'm using. You can find it on Verizon's site, you might also be able to find it in the store.
Thanks coodaddy1, I figured that was the next step. I thought about running a ground from the cig lighter to the chassis to see if it eliminated the hum.
I am using the usb/2.5 splitter that came with the phone with a 2.5-3.5 splitter i got a radio shack, all that connected to my stereo line in. Works like a charm.
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I am using the usb/2.5 splitter that came with the phone with a 2.5-3.5 splitter i got a radio shack, all that connected to my stereo line in. Works like a charm.
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I found that the 2.5-3.5 doesn't have the correct amount of posts and you will need to eventually pull out the tip to get full stereo (are you sure you are getting stereo sound rather than mono out of both speakers- all left or all right)?
If that works, cool!
This is what you need - Car Dock with Audio out
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I use mine for that all the time. I have one of those bracketron mounting clips that clip to your vent and I use the included headphone adapter and the usb splitter (becuase it wont charge unless you connect the power to the usb splitter). I connect a mini usb cable to a usb adapter in the charger socket. To connect to the radio on my ford focus I have a digital adapter that lets me use standard rca jack input to the digital port on the back of the factory radio (works with any any audio source)
To connect to the 2.5mm headset adapter,I have a cable I made by chopping the end of a old 2.5mm handsfree headset and soldering a standard 3.5mm headset socket to it. You should be able to buy a similar adapter from any vendor on the web. The headset that the moguls included adapter wants is the standard four conductor one that most multimedia cell phones like the samsung a920 use. (I originally used the cable I made with a samsung) The only problems I have had is that vibration from driving sometimes jiggles the mini usb loose from the phone and you have to plug it in again. I guess I could route the cable over the top of the bracket to hold it in place to solve the problem,in fact,Ill try that tomorrow.
One other problem I have had is tomtom as it has no internal media player. I was using it for gps functionality,but other than the fact that it is missing all sorts of key information on my area,like points of interest that it really should have,its very difficult to switch out of it and control media player. That means that while you can start your music and then launch the gps program you are then stuck with whatever your play list is and cant control media player. Other than that it does work well and the voice comes through fine. I switched to Garmins gps software and it works great. It does not even need to have some other app initialize the gps like tomtom does. It does not have an internal media player either,but at least its a little easier to switch out of.
im running a bt headset with a miniplug straight into my aux input in my car. works well enough to stream music and mp3s
I have a feeling that this can't be done (because I looked into it with my XDA Exec a few years ago), but....
Is there any way that I can play mp3s via the extUSB into a car stereo (via an AUX in) and yet answer calls via the same stereo's integrated bluetooth via the headset profile?
The stereo would normally drop the AUX in sound for a bluetooth call, but clearly the extUSB would normally handle calls if a audio output device is plugged into it. With my Exec, I seem to remember that the hardwired audio output would be the default, and so the bluetooth would never engage.
If there is a hardware solution, I would be very keen to know! Even better if the extUSB also charged my Vario IV in a passive holder.
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I have a feeling that this can't be done (because I looked into it with my XDA Exec a few years ago), but....
Is there any way that I can play mp3s via the extUSB into a car stereo (via an AUX in) and yet answer calls via the same stereo's integrated bluetooth via the headset profile?
The stereo would normally drop the AUX in sound for a bluetooth call, but clearly the extUSB would normally handle calls if a audio output device is plugged into it. With my Exec, I seem to remember that the hardwired audio output would be the default, and so the bluetooth would never engage.
If there is a hardware solution, I would be very keen to know! Even better if the extUSB also charged my Vario IV in a passive holder.
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What about playing music through the blue tooth of your car stereo? Tricking the car into thinking its actually engaged in a call so it plays music. Might have to be something done on the phone side to transmit the music as a call and then when you receive a call the music stops and you can answer the call and when the call ends music resumes? Just a thought i dont know if it is possible at all. But you bring up a really good idea.
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What about playing music through the blue tooth of your car stereo?
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Thanks for the thought, but the stereo doesn't accept bluetooth streams - it simply just has the ability to act as a hands free device.
Any more thoughts anyone? (Although someone has just posted about a device that looks intriguing with AUX and power in)
It's definitely doable. Thats what I've done with my non BT Pioneer deck. Check out my post here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3278241#post3278241.
Hope this helps.
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It's definitely doable. Thats what I've done with my non BT Pioneer deck. Check out my post here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3278241#post3278241.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you too for the feedback, but I can't see a bluetooth device in your chain. Perhaps I wasn't clear in the original post, but in the end I suppose the question is can calls be handled over bluetooth when there is any audio outpu device plugged into the extUSB?
Sorry. My bad. You are right, I did misread your post.
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Thank you too for the feedback, but I can't see a bluetooth device in your chain. Perhaps I wasn't clear in the original post, but in the end I suppose the question is can calls be handled over bluetooth when there is any audio outpu device plugged into the extUSB?
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the answer is yes. that is what i do daily.
i listen to music through quality wired headphones, and when a call comes in i use my bt headset WITHOUT unplugging the headphones from extUSB.
all you need to do is answer the call using the answer button on your bt headset and not your phone.
in some phones, if you will press the send key on the phone and not the bt headset, the call will transfer to the phone instead of the bt headset.
hope i was able to help.
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i listen to music through quality wired headphones, and when a call comes in i use my bt headset WITHOUT unplugging the headphones from extUSB.
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Thank you.
Do you think it matters that you're using headphones rather than a headset? I'm just wondering, since you refer to headphones, if the lack of speaker in your wired device means the call will hand over to the BT device - this will allow me to work out what I need to buy.
hmm i think since your aux input wont really have a mic attached it should hand over the call to the bluetooth headset from what the other person is saying.
Hi, I don't know if this will apply to your stereo setup but I thought I would let you know my setup anyway.
I use the HTC multifunction audio cable http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=171925 which lets me charge my phone via a car charger and use the 3.5mm audio output to the stereos aux input at the same time - all of which are in center armrest compartment.
I use bluetooth connection to the factory installed bluetooth prep (BMW 3-Series). When a call comes in the TP pauses the audio and the BT phone then takes over. When the call ends the TP un-pauses the audio
I just installed a Blaupunkt MP57 on Sunday and did exactly what you're describing. Phone connected via aux playing music, answer or make calls via bluetooth on the stereo and the music pauses then restarts when the call is ended.
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-bluetooth-audio-v1-0.html
http://www.acbpocketsoft.com/Products/acbToggleBT/acbToggleBT-Free--3.html
Both can send all outgoing audio from your WM device via BT headset channel instead of A2DP. It's not advanced audio but it will let you play audio over the headset BT channel. Sound can be tweaked using SRS WOW HD.
ExtUSB is just a port which will enable playing MP3 tracks on for example USB drive? Why not put your connection in USB mode then?
I'm not sure if this will help you, but I bought a Motorola Bluetooth Car Kit. I don't have the "phone" feature built into my car Stereo, so I used the external amplified speaker and mic for "phone" functions. The Car Kit has an Aux Out, with I feed into my car stereo. When I get into the car, the Bluetooth initiates two separate "connections". One for the "phone" and one for the "MP3 Player". You can have either one or both. The music plays through the car stereo (via the Aux Input) and phone calls play the the external Car Kit Speaker. It is like having two independent bluetooth "channels". When I have Voice Commander enabled, it communicates through the "phone" channel, i.e., the Car Kit mic and external speaker. That is also where my incoming email is announced through. My Garmin GPS "speaks" through the Aux out and the Car Stereo though. I'm not sure how these routes are selected. Personally, I would prefer that the GPS also communicated through the "phone" channel, that way if I am listening to the Radio, or Sirius, or a CD (not on AUX-IN), I would still here the GPS voice guidance. I'm not sure if that can be changed or not.
Hope this helps.
I do this all the time. USB to 3.5mm stereo to Pioneer head unit and calls come in over the BT
Thanks all for the input.
Just bought a Brando adaptor:
http://www.inkino.co.uk/zen/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=126&products_id=1502
Tested it and Copilot and Music run from the Aux out. Bluetooth hand over perfectly. As an aside, I find WMP is a better MP3 player, simply because I can reduce the volume in the software, but leave Copilot to use the system volume at a slightly higher level so the voice doesn't get lost (the HTC player doesn't seem to have the same capability).
Could have bought the HTC branded device from the same place, but the main lead from the Ext USB is slightly longer and more inflexible so wouldn't easily fit under my car holder.
BTW, since I live close to the shop (plus I love instant gratification as opposed to mail order), I visited the Inkino shop in London. I must say that the staff were very knowledgeable and helpful and the shop has a huge range of HTC accessories (including a branded battery and extended battery for my Universal, which I am planning to resurrect). Not sure about the prices vs ebay, but for the bricks and mortar approach in the UK, where it is difficult to find anything HTC - 1st class!
Currently, I'm just using the aux port in my sony head. It has a USB port that is "ipod" ready. I connected the vibrant to it and set the usb mode to "media player" and I could play music just fine, but charging was almost nonexistent. It shows that it's charging but the battery percentage did not rise over the course of 30-45 minutes, and it was at approximately 35% when I started. I'm guessing perhaps the usb port isn't supplying enough voltage for charging purposes so I'm trying to find an alternative in the mean time that doesn't require plugging in a separate car charger and the aux audio cable. Has anyone had any luck with using a blue-tooth usb receiver in their stereo and transmit the audio from the phone that way? Just curious what other people are using for setup. Please share!
i just use my 3.5mm aux-in on my car. Works great for me. No charging of course, but I have a short commute.
I have a 2010 Ford with MS Sync installed.
Streaming bluetooth audio works flawlessly, as it did with my G1. You do need to control it on the actual phone, which is a pain because you know, you have to drive and all, but I guess that's how you would do it through a line-in as well (I have USB-in that works with my Zune so I can control my media though my steering wheel and by voice command, so I'm perhaps a bit spoiled)
But anyway, the audio will play fine, and if I get a call, the media player will pause, I can answer and talk, and when the call is ended it resumes the music.
I have a Sony Xplode and use bluetooth to stream music. Work well for the most part but taking calls on it sucks.
I use the aux port and a usb charger for longer commutes.
I have a 2012 Buick Enclave and a 2009 Honda Accord, both vehicles support Bluetooth phone calls, can dial my phone access a phone book etc to make calls through the vehicles stereo system, but I can't play music or media through them. Is there anyway or any apk that I can change the media output to look like it's a phone call instead and play music etc through also? I've seen other people ask this question in the past and haven't found any answers. Thanks!
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I have a 2012 Buick Enclave and a 2009 Honda Accord, both vehicles support Bluetooth phone calls, can dial my phone access a phone book etc to make calls through the vehicles stereo system, but I can't play music or media through them. Is there anyway or any apk that I can change the media output to look like it's a phone call instead and play music etc through also? I've seen other people ask this question in the past and haven't found any answers. Thanks!
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like this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.IG.BluetoothManager&hl=en
amebiasis said:
I have a 2012 Buick Enclave and a 2009 Honda Accord, both vehicles support Bluetooth phone calls, can dial my phone access a phone book etc to make calls through the vehicles stereo system, but I can't play music or media through them. Is there anyway or any apk that I can change the media output to look like it's a phone call instead and play music etc through also? I've seen other people ask this question in the past and haven't found any answers. Thanks!
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I'm probably one of those users that asked the question and never got an answer.
I bought one of these: http://amzn.com/B0038MA11U and it works great. Personally... I think I prefer my setup (below) to using an app that modifies the bluetooth stream. Mostly because I couldn't find one... but also because I'm not so sure what would happen if you got a phonecall. As in, the audio might keep playing, or the call may not go through. Perhaps the audio stream would be all your caller could hear.
I've got a 2009 BMW 335ix, and the iDrive system only supports bluetooth over the phone stream. I've actually successfully called myself and played audio during my voicemail... and it will play over the car speakers. However, it will shut off after a few minutes (voicemail time limit), and I had to delete that voicemail. Far from ideal, but a successful proof of concept. lol
If your car has an auxiliary stereo input (headphone jack), then you can use that item I linked you to (or something similar... there are a few out there). In my case, my AUX jack is in the center console, near a 12V plug. So... I got a cigarette lighter-to-2xUSB adapter, a REALLY SHORT USB cable, and a REALLY SHORT stereo minijack cable, and it all fits rather nicely in the center console. The other USB port on the adapter is occupied by my phone charger. I made sure to get a low-profile usb adapter with one 2-amp port to get the most current flow to my phone.
If you've wondered this question yet... You CAN be connected to more than 1 bluetooth item at a time. I'm successfully connected to my car via the phone stream and the miccus on the media stream every day. If I get a call while listening to media, the media stream will stop and I can answer the phone. (This is built into Android, I believe) If you've got a Note 3, then I'm 99% sure you'll have the same experience.
Good luck!
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Morkai Almandragon said:
like this?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.IG.BluetoothManager&hl=en
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Excited, I followed this link. Google Play said I have it installed. I don't even remember installing the app, so I'm pretty sure it didn't work for me.
I installed it again to try it out later today on my way home. Perhaps I'll have better luck with it this time.
**UPDATE*** As soon as I opened it, it said I have to upgrade to "Bluetooth Manager ICS" which costs a dollar. Without being able to try the app before buying it... I'm uninstalling again. Maybe next time I come across it, I'll remember the issue I had with it.
Thanks guys I'll look into these options and try to find out more info on that apk!
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Thanks guys I'll look into these options and try to find out more info on that apk!
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When I click on the pairing of my 2009 Ford Fusion Sync in the Note 3's Bluetooth settings, there are check marks for "Phone audio" and "Media audio". Both are checked. If I want to play media audio or have turn by turn directions through the car audio system, then I have to change the audio input on the car with the "Aux" button to "Bluetooth Audio". The phone function still works after I do this. Check your pair settings and "Aux" setting.
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When I click on the pairing of my 2009 Ford Fusion Sync in the Note 3's Bluetooth settings, there are check marks for "Phone audio" and "Media audio". Both are checked. If I want to play media audio or have turn by turn directions through the car audio system, then I have to change the audio input on the car with the "Aux" button to "Bluetooth Audio". The phone function still works after I do this. Check your pair settings and "Aux" setting.
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Ya I had a Ford Edge and could do that to Ford's Sync is a nice system. Sadly though most other manufacturers don't support media through Bluetooth though that's what we were trying to figure out how to override. I read somewhere that they do this as a safety precaution, how it's safer than plugging in my aux cable and I have no idea lol
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When I click on the pairing of my 2009 Ford Fusion Sync in the Note 3's Bluetooth settings, there are check marks for "Phone audio" and "Media audio". Both are checked. If I want to play media audio or have turn by turn directions through the car audio system, then I have to change the audio input on the car with the "Aux" button to "Bluetooth Audio". The phone function still works after I do this. Check your pair settings and "Aux" setting.
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In 2009, your Fusion w/ SYNC was MUCH more technologically advanced than my 2009 3-series. I know because my wife had a 2009 Milan, which is pretty much the same car. She loved teasing my about how my BMW was so inferior. lol. And she was right. BMW only had compatibility with Apple products (as an option), and not through bluetooth. Only through USB. The car itself only has compatibility as a bluetooth speakerphone on the phone stream. I can't parse a "media" stream. If I had an iPhone (blech)... I could access my messages and everything... but it's not supported on my Note 3. Honestly... I kind of want to trade it in because of all this. I didn't realize it when I bought the car, and now I have the bluetooth adapter plugged into the AUX port and I've grown complacent.
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In 2009, your Fusion w/ SYNC was MUCH more technologically advanced than my 2009 3-series. I know because my wife had a 2009 Milan, which is pretty much the same car. She loved teasing my about how my BMW was so inferior. lol. And she was right. BMW only had compatibility with Apple products (as an option), and not through bluetooth. Only through USB. The car itself only has compatibility as a bluetooth speakerphone on the phone stream. I can't parse a "media" stream. If I had an iPhone (blech)... I could access my messages and everything... but it's not supported on my Note 3. Honestly... I kind of want to trade it in because of all this. I didn't realize it when I bought the car, and now I have the bluetooth adapter plugged into the AUX port and I've grown complacent.
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Ya, that's surprising...
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I just have a normal radio with aux and usb ports. I bought an adapter call the Himbox from iClever on Amazon. It supports both hands free calling and bluetooth audio (actually good quality sounding audio). It even comes with a double usb 12v adapter. It was only around $40 if I remember correctly. I have the phone media part of it turned off since I drive a very noisy big truck, but I also have a high quality hands free noise cancelling headset that I just use for phone calls (media audio unchecked) . I leave both connected while driving. When a call comes in, I just answer it with my headset and it pauses the media receiver and my headset functions like normal...once I hang up, it resumes playing.
A.K.A. The only thing I miss from Windows Phone. WP did a stellar job of this, right out of the box. But in Android, as is Android, I have to download 30 apps that might work, try them, research online as to why they don't, and finally settle on a hacky solution. Which is fine. I just don't know what that solution is. Here is the use case....
Get in car, and connect phone to Bluetooth for Audio, media etc.
Turn on Car audio system to FM radio input (NOT BLUETOOTH INPUT)
Wife texts me
How can I get the phone to read the text to me? I have seen some apps that can do this while BT input is selected. But the challenge is how to get this while not listening to Bluetooth Audio on the car's speaker system.
I know there's gotta be a way. Windows phone did it flawlessly, all the way since WP 7 in 2011.
Any ideas? Much obliged!